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Ron Purdue

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Oct 2, 2009, 3:49:22 PM10/2/09
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In the year 2014, 5 years from now, the Big Dish will be extinct. The cause: Cable-TV and the Pizza Dish has won the battle against the BUD since 1986 when the "battle" begun and believe-it-
or-not, 99% of all BUD owners are extremely lazy as Keith Lamonica of FM America puts it: They sat on their lazy butts and the BUD owners did nothing to save the BUD Industry from dying.

Let's put it this way, the BUD has vanished from the backyards of millions of homes in 2014. So, wake-up and be aware what is really happening to the TVRO industry. Maybe the Big Dish is
only a 'fad', is this true? YES. The small-dish, the cable companies and Programmers will hold a BIG CELEBRATION that the TVRO idustry has died. Face it, it is coming and coming fast! This
is the damn truth. We will have the funeral for the BUD, it will be in your shed because you did nothing to save it from becoming extinct.


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Oct 2, 2009, 6:33:21 PM10/2/09
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Ron Purdue wrote:
> In the year 2014, 5 years from now, the Big Dish will be extinct. The cause: Cable-TV and the Pizza Dish has won the battle against the BUD since 1986 when the "battle" begun and believe-it-
> or-not, 99% of all BUD owners are extremely lazy as Keith Lamonica of FM America puts it: They sat on their lazy butts and the BUD owners did nothing to save the BUD Industry from dying.
>
> Let's put it this way, the BUD has vanished from the backyards of millions of homes in 2014. So, wake-up and be aware what is really happening to the TVRO industry. Maybe the Big Dish is
> only a 'fad', is this true? YES. The small-dish, the cable companies and Programmers will hold a BIG CELEBRATION that the TVRO idustry has died. Face it, it is coming and coming fast! This
> is the damn truth. We will have the funeral for the BUD, it will be in your shed because you did nothing to save it from becoming extinct.
>
>

BFD...

I really doubt that "The small-dish, the cable companies and
Programmers" give a rat's ass about the "TVRO industry". The 'TVRO
industry', if there ever was such a thing, died a long time ago.

Get over it...

JAB

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Oct 2, 2009, 7:32:22 PM10/2/09
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On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:49:22 -0500, Ron Purdue
<ronp...@myclearwave.net> wrote:

>In the year 2014, 5 years from now, the Big Dish will be extinct

Wrong....

>Let's put it this way, the BUD has vanished from the backyards
>of millions of homes in 2014

Wrong...millions have already been removed, so millions can't "vanish"

PS: The only way backyard dishes will be extinct is if all uplinkers
use a format that home viewers can't buy a receiver for....

JAB

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Oct 2, 2009, 7:42:43 PM10/2/09
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On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:49:22 -0500, Ron Purdue
<ronp...@myclearwave.net> wrote:

>In the year 2014, 5 years from now, the Big Dish will be extinc


PS: A little history...Nov 7 1999, 3:00 am


Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite.tvro, alt.video.satellite.4dtv
From: "Greg Modzelewski" <g...@neo.rr.com>
Subject: General Instruments - Joe Cornwall & Dorian Simpson On TVRO


This Is From Echostar's Web-Site... Especially Note What Charlie Ergen
(CEO - ECHOSTAR) and Mike McKee (CEO - NETLINK/SUPERSTAR) Say About Us
C-Bander's: (UNBELIEVABLE)

-----------------------------
Here Are Charlie's Comments:
-----------------------------

"This exclusive marketing alliance will give us an inside track to
convert a large base of individuals who have satellite TV to the
nation's favorite and fastest growing high power service," said
Charlie Ergen, chairman and CEO of EchoStar. "It's only a matter of
time until most of these C-Band customers transition to a high power
service, and with access to these households via Superstar/Netlink
Group, we're confident that we will see a large portion of them
convert to DISH Network."

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.video.satellite.4dtv/msg/de6a9f040bb5210f?hl=en&dmode=source

Who really cares.

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Oct 3, 2009, 12:08:56 AM10/3/09
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On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:49:22 -0500, Ron Purdue wrote:

> In the year 2014, 5 years from now, the Big Dish will be extinct. The
> cause: Cable-TV and the Pizza Dish has won the battle against the BUD
> since 1986 when the "battle" begun and believe-it- or-not, 99% of all
> BUD owners are extremely lazy as Keith Lamonica of FM America puts it:
> They sat on their lazy butts and the BUD owners did nothing to save the
> BUD Industry from dying.
>
> Let's put it this way, the BUD has vanished from the backyards of
> millions of homes in 2014. So, wake-up and be aware what is really
> happening to the TVRO industry. Maybe the Big Dish is only a 'fad', is
> this true? YES. The small-dish, the cable companies and Programmers will
> hold a BIG CELEBRATION that the TVRO idustry has died. Face it, it is
> coming and coming fast! This is the damn truth. We will have the funeral
> for the BUD, it will be in your shed because you did nothing to save it
> from becoming extinct.

Why did the BUD disappear? In my mind, it was the move to encryption and
the inability to get many of the channels via packages. The move to Ku
from C and the advent of the "FTA" (using the term loosely) was the final
straw.

The benefit was for those that stayed with their BUD's. Now there are
many channels open with DVB signals, even HD signals on both Ku and C-
bands. I now use my C-band more than I did a few years ago.

What would be perfect would be a fully capable multi-format c-band, ku-
band and all the other band receiver and PVR like many of the DVB
receivers. Totally open for testing and experimenting, like a DVB card.

At present, I need to use a GI receiver to move the dish and LNB polarity
with a DVB receiver to get many channels.

Also posting of finds to lists and web sites, such as the old wild feeds
from days gone past.

SAC 441

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Oct 3, 2009, 4:23:40 AM10/3/09
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Mr.Ron Purdue,I don't know what you are talking about.In order for
something to be EXTINCT,there has to be *NO* users of the service and
the technology has to completely disappear.This has not happened,and
until such time as servicers such as NPS and Satellite Receivers,Inc.
tells me they are no longer going to sell me a signal it is not likely
to happen any time soon.I *STILL* use my C-Band dish.Sure,there were
once millions of us and we are reduced to the hundreds of thousands now.
However,even the reporting of the numbers are somewhat suspect as they
are only reporting subscribers to the ACC who are largely using DC2
encrypted services.
There are probably numerous DVB and DVB2 (4:2:2 receivers) people out
there that don't get reported because it is essentially FREE to AIR and
since encryption is not necessary ( at least so far),they obviously
would not get counted in C-Band statistical usage.Who knows how many of
this type of C-banders there are out there?
I think you are overstating the case a little bit here.
While the market has shrunk markedly,it has not,I repeat **NOT**
disappeared.Enough said on this rant.

SAC441

Steve

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Oct 3, 2009, 11:29:10 PM10/3/09
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You, sir, are an arsehole. The BUD is not and will not become extinct. In
fact, there is probably more programming up there now than ever before! You
have movies, sports, kids entertainment, networks, and a whole lot more. I
don't see it ever becoming "extinct" either. The advent of new formats and
modulations to watch better quality video than ever before will keep things
alive. Pansat every has come out with a new add-on board that actually does
blind-scanning on DVB-S2 signals! That's a first. With the DVB cards for
your computer, there is even more formats available to all to watch. if you
haven't seen HD on the BUD, you ahve never seen HD. You can stick up for
your little "pizza pan" dish companies and those horrible cable companies
all you want. But their signal/video quality sucks compared to what you get
from the source feeds. the only thing that comes close or equals the HD
quality on the BUD is OTA television and Blu-Ray DVDs. In fact, blue-ray is
the only way to get 1080P. There just isn't any being broadcast - even
though the cable companies are constantly modifying the PSIP data to make
your receiver SAY it is something it really isn't.

I think you need to just go away.

Oh yea, if you have any of those old BUDs laying around which you obviously
aren't using - put an ad in the local newspaper to give it away and see how
fast it moves from your yard to one that actually uses it.

Steve


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Ron Purdue

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Oct 5, 2009, 4:17:12 PM10/5/09
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Steve, go and check out satforums.com and see what's there. They are telling the truth. okay.

Steve

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Oct 6, 2009, 10:26:39 AM10/6/09
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Why would I need to check what someone else says when I have satellite here
and I see for myself what's going on in the world of satellite television.
There is simply more and more every month on satellite to watch - FTA and
ITC. Analog is dwindling, yes, but that's because digital is the new wave.
But there is digital on both C and Ku enough to satisfy everyone and any
taste.

Steve

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JAB

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Oct 6, 2009, 9:35:40 PM10/6/09
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On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:17:12 -0500, Ron Purdue
<ronp...@myclearwave.net> wrote:

>They are telling the truth

Let's see...five years in the future...that's called speculation, not
truth.

The sky is not falling, btw.

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