Printing on printable DVDs
Mike Wilcox
I purchased DVDs that I can run through my printer to make the lable on the
disk. Should I print on the DVD before or after I burn it? If it matters,
the printer is an Epson Photo R200 and has a special attachment for print
DVDs.
Thanks,
Mike
Dave Jones
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Dave Jones
D&D Video productions
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Richard Crowley
>I have the R300 and have printed before and after burning.
> Seems to make no difference
Same here. I did note that the instructions for one of the thermal
disc printers advised printing before burning. Not clear why.
I usually burn the discs first to avoid any dust on the surface that
may interfere with burning (but not with printing).
TheWanderer
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> "Dave Jones" wrote ...
>>I have the R300 and have printed before and after burning. Seems to make
>>no difference
>
> Same here. I did note that the instructions for one of the thermal
> disc printers advised printing before burning. Not clear why.
>
There are 2 types of discs. One uses an ink jet that sparys the ink on a
special cd surface.
The thermal printer uses heat to print onto the disc. It is possible that
heat can damage the pits on the other side of the disc
Andys cam
>disk. Should I print on the DVD before or after I burn it?
Makes no difference. Most reccomend print after in case it turns out to be a
bum DVD but I have printed about 500 before burn with Epson R 300 and R200s
with absolutely no problems.
Stan
Stan.
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I also have both R200/300. The manual does recommend burning first,
then printing (to avoid scratching disks before burning). But after
spending 5-10 times as long to burn as to print, multiplied by several
hundred disks, I went to printing first. If you burn then get a bad
print, you've wasted 5 or 10 minutes and have a disk you may not be
able to use for anything. If you print first, you can catch any bad
prints before burning and use the disks as data backups or something
else. And you've used less time.
Mikey
Nova Music Productions
Richard Crowley
> Any opinions on "Lightscribe"? Is it even available yet?
I just saw a TV add for an HP/Compaq system with the feature.
Two biggest disadvantages: Monochrome images only; and special
disks (with label side photosensitive) will likely cost more because
of lower demand/volume.
Richard Crowley
Are you using Epson ink? I sometimes think the ink for the
disc and the DVD case almost cost more than the disc itself.
I've switched to Carrot Ink (somewhat less expensive than
Epson), but I'm likely going to switch to one of those bulk ink
retrofits with the big bottles and plastic tubes to the print head.
Bob Ford
When I run large quantities, I duplicate and print both on a thermal
printer and a HP Print Factory ink jet . I also sometimes print small
runs on an Epson R300. In all cases I duplicate before I print labels
for a couple of reasons:
1. Why print the disk before verifying that it burned OK.
2. I have noticed that the few times I printed on ink jet before
burning that I see that the ink has made kinda very small swirls on
the outside edges. Tells me that the ink was probably not dry and you
could likely avoid this by making sure it is dry before burning.
3. Someone mentioned in another part of this thread that the thermal
printers could damage the burned side of the disk - don't know if this
is true or not.
Anyway in answer to your ??? I duplicate and then print for whatever
it's worth :-)
Bob Ford
Images In Motion
<www.imagesinmotion.com>
Mike Fields
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Not sure on the first two questions, but I suspect on the third one
that is more likely a problem with CD-R media but not DVD
media. CD-R has a lexan disc with the dye on the top with a
protective coat over top of some sort of lacquer which does not
offer much protection (the data side is actually on the top of the
CD but viewed from the bottom). On a DVD, the dye layer is
between two plastic disc's glued together so the top is more
protected.
mikey
Ronald1967
seascape
'printable' DVD's usable in ANY ink jet printer? I have an older HP
DeskJet 722 and was considering purchasing these in bulk from a internet
shop I saw selling 'printable' DVD's. So, I naturally hesitated not knowing
if my printer will work for these.
Mike Fields
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No -- there are only a couple of printers out there that will handle
the printable DVD's -- they have a special tray for loading the DVD
and print there. Along the same topic lines, do not use the stick on
labels on your DVD's -- there have been quite a number of reports
from people who have had problems with playback when they put
labels on the DVD's. Sharpie markers are your friend !!
mikey
Richard Crowley
The reason for the frequent mention of the Epson R200 and R300
are because they are designed and equipped to print on discs
(they have a special tray that holds the disc). And because they
are remarkably inexpensive.
You MAY be able to print discs on printers not intended for it,
but be prepared to a lot of hardware hacking. I have seen web
pages that had instructions to build your own disc tray for a
couple of specific models of printers.
Most printers are NOT capable of printing on disks for any
of several reasons like crooked paper path, pinch rollers in
the wrong place, etc etc.
William Davis
"Mike Fields" <spam_me_not...@comcast.net> wrote:
Yep.
The good news, is that Epson 200's are often found for as little as $99
if you shop around.
And they work great if you read and follow ALL the directions!
Chuck U. Farley
> if you shop around.
If you don't mind messing with rebates, you can get it for $40 USD. See
here:
This offer comes around every three or four months, which is about when I
run out of ink. I bought one in December because it was cheaper buying the
whole printer this way than it was buying replacement Epson ink cartridges.
Gave my old printer, without ink cartridges, to my daughter and she spent
$24 for OEM cartridges. I got new cartridges (and a new printer) for $40 and
she got a functional photo printer for $24.
seascape
the disc was appealing and would give me control of fonts for the pro look
to it.
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Richard Crowley
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I bought a continuous ink supply system from a guy on eBay
(jlwsales) who was highly recommended in a couple of
forums on www.videohelp.com (This is for my Epson
R300 printer which I use for discs & wraparound covers)
It arrived so fast (4 days from Hong Kong to Oregon) that
I haven't run out of ink in my "Carrot" 3rd party cartridges
yet. The unit looks great and I can't wait to install it and
start using it. I showed it to a friend who engineers ink
cartridges for Hewlett Packard and he was pretty impressed
also. Snapped a bunch of pictures to take back to the lab :-)
Bob Ford
I can attest to that......NO STICK ON LABELS!
Bob Ford
wrote:
The Epson 200/300 each have an adapter tray which holds the blank DVD
and centers it up for it to feed the disc into the printer.
They also come with software which takes very little set up to get the
print centered directly onto the DVD.
I'm not sure how or if you could accomplish all this with an HP722???
WEBPA
Sharpie markers for almost all my CDs and DVDs.
However:
I have also used a Clotilda Cloth/Paper circle cutter to manufacture hundreds
of labels from full-page, permanent adhesive, ink-jet label stock. And had
exactly ZERO problems in any DVD or CD player. The trick is: Use a label
applier (comes with many CD/DVD labeling kits), and NEVER try to apply a lable
unless it is cut PERFECTLY (no ragged edges, center hole fits the applier
EXACTLY). Then apply the label so that it is EXACTLY centered on the disk...be
prepared to discard the disk if it is not centered. I've never seen a pre-cut
DVD or CD label that actually fits the application device the same company
sells (including Hewlett-Packard, Maxell, Avery, etc., etc.) So forget about
the factory-cut label sheets...get full-sheet (A4 or 8.5x11 inch) labels. Use
a velvet pad to carefully press-down the label...center to edge...rubbing out
air bubbles. Bubble will not be a big problem if you use the application
device incorrectly.
NEVER TRY TO APPLY A LABEL WITHOUT AN APPLICATION DEVICE. Such sillyness is
where the "exploding disk" stories originate.
Google is your friend...there are many sources for transparent, translucent,
opaque, matte, and glossy color inkjet coated adhesive media. It ain't cheap
... but works great.
PS: The oldest adhesive-labeled disk in my storage drawer dates to 1993...I
think the blank cost me about US$4.00 (it still plays just fine and the label
is perfect).
webpa