My first SVCD project .... and thoughts
Heyday
I created my first SVCD last night. It was just a 2 minute video
clip and it only took me 1 ½ hours to created it from start to finish..
The quality was excellent. A lot better than VCD but not quite as good
as DVD. However I could see vertical lines in the picture if I looked
close. (I played in on my Apex dvd player)
Here is how I created it:
1.Captured 2 minutes .avi uncompressed.
2.Used bbMPEG to convert to SVCD format 480X480. (I was basically
following the directions at
http://saturn.spaceports.com/%7Edvdsoft/svcd/foolproof.htm Converting
to the SVCD format took about 25 minutes for 2 minutes of Video! My
system is Athlon 700 so I was surprised it took that long.
3. I used I-author deluxe to author the cd and make the .cif file
so I could burn it with EZCD.
My conclusions….
Quality is nice but I will be waiting to create more SVCDs until I have
the following
1. Video Capture board that can capture SVCD compliant MPEG2 files
on the fly (Using hardware compression)
2. Video Editing software that retains the SVCD format.
Does anyone know if there these 2 things exist?
Heyday
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
R&D
clips at resolution of 480x480 with virable bit rate. There is a button
called "preview".You have to press this button to get 480X480 resolution. I
believe the quality will be better than bbMPEG.
Gernot Langle
> Well I just wanted to give my opinion on SVCD creation.
>
> I created my first SVCD last night. It was just a 2 minute video
> clip and it only took me 1 ½ hours to created it from start to finish..
>
> The quality was excellent. A lot better than VCD but not quite as good
> as DVD. However I could see vertical lines in the picture if I looked
> close. (I played in on my Apex dvd player)
>
> Here is how I created it:
>
> 1.Captured 2 minutes .avi uncompressed.
> 2.Used bbMPEG to convert to SVCD format 480X480. (I was basically
> following the directions at
> http://saturn.spaceports.com/%7Edvdsoft/svcd/foolproof.htm Converting
> to the SVCD format took about 25 minutes for 2 minutes of Video! My
> system is Athlon 700 so I was surprised it took that long.
> 3. I used I-author deluxe to author the cd and make the .cif file
> so I could burn it with EZCD.
>
> My conclusions….
>
> Quality is nice but I will be waiting to create more SVCDs until I have
> the following
>
> 1. Video Capture board that can capture SVCD compliant MPEG2 files
> on the fly (Using hardware compression)
> 2. Video Editing software that retains the SVCD format.
>
> Does anyone know if there these 2 things exist?
>
> Heyday
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
Heyday,
how big is that .cif file? I am looking for a way to burn a test SVCD
myself but don't have I-author. Could you possibly email the .cif file to
me?
GBL
Heyday
happy to do it.
Heyday
junk...@mesahigh.com
In article <390B3D2A...@mn.rr.com>,
--
***************************************************
Long Distance Rates At 0¢, 3.9¢, 4.9¢, 5.9¢ !!!!
We shop the telecom industry so you don't have to!
http://www.Phone4Less.nu
R&D
Keith Clark
In short, pay for it.
osty wrote:
> Where can I get I.Authour DeLuxe ?
>
> Thx
>
> osty
>
> On Sat, 29 Apr 2000 15:48:21 GMT, Heyday <joelpe...@my-deja.com>
> wrote:
>
> >http://saturn.spaceports.com/%7Edvdsoft/svcd/foolproof.htm
osty
Heyday
money....drop the price down to $50 or $100 for their SVCD stuff. The
reason is that soon others will but SVCD stuff into thier software,
NERO, EZCD, ect.... they should get the market share now....
I guess they are not targeting home users though.......
Heyday
In article <390B96FF...@spiritone.com>,
clarkpho...@spiritone.com wrote:
> http://www.enreach.com/Products/products/iauthor/iauthsvcd.htm
>
> In short, pay for it.
>
> osty wrote:
>
--
Jukka Aho
news:8egbqd$a13$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> Well this is an area where I think that enreach could make some
> money....drop the price down to $50 or $100 for their SVCD stuff.
> The reason is that soon others will but SVCD stuff into thier
> software, NERO, EZCD, ect.... they should get the market share
> now....I guess they are not targeting home users though.......
(S)VCD software makers like to differentiate their products so
that you've got a "professional" version (which supports all
the gimmicks defined in the spec) and a dumbed-down "consumer"
version which only has very limited capabilities.
The problem is that more and more consumers are willing to
use the advanced features now. Those dumbed-down versions
simply are not enough anymore.
The bottom drops out from the "professional" VCD authoring
software market as soon as somebody creates an affordable
(or even free!) program that supports all the bells and
whistles of the (S)VCD standard. Some people are already
working on such projects...
-- znark
Keith Clark
Yes, I too think the $2000 that Enreach wants is an obscene price. Yes,
they invite piracy at that price. At $100 or less, almost everyone would
buy it...
Heyday wrote:
> Well this is an area where I think that enreach could make some
> money....drop the price down to $50 or $100 for their SVCD stuff. The
> reason is that soon others will but SVCD stuff into thier software,
> NERO, EZCD, ect.... they should get the market share now....
>
> I guess they are not targeting home users though.......
>
Isaac
<clarkpho...@spiritone.com> wrote:
>
>Yes, I too think the $2000 that Enreach wants is an obscene price. Yes,
>they invite piracy at that price. At $100 or less, almost everyone would
>buy it...
>
about Enreach's high price or go ripping off their stuff. I wouldn't
recommend spending $2000 either.
Isaac
John Mann
generous person post this on a website somewhere? I was all set to
try SVCD on Sunday, and then Nero slipped their delivery date :( If I
had your cif file, I could at least test my DVD player to see if it
supports SVCD. Thanks!
I finally finished creating a non-standard VCD last night that holds 9
music videos. The videos are encoded at approximately double (2200
kbps) the standard VCD bit rate. My DVD player plays it, and the
quality is up to VHS standards - much nicer than standard VCD. My
guess is that SVCD will look even nicer.
Heyday <joelpe...@my-deja.com> writes:
> It is 38 megs. If you have an ftp site that I can send it up to I'll be
> happy to do it.
>
> Heyday
> junk...@mesahigh.com
Heyday
In article <wmbt2q1...@ll.mit.edu>,
--
MIchael Ye
set something wrong in bbmpeg. Could you please list your bbmpeg
parameters for SVCD (NTSC preferred)?
Heyday wrote:
>
> Well I just wanted to give my opinion on SVCD creation.
>
> I created my first SVCD last night. It was just a 2 minute video
> clip and it only took me 1 ½ hours to created it from start to finish..
>
> The quality was excellent. A lot better than VCD but not quite as good
> as DVD. However I could see vertical lines in the picture if I looked
> close. (I played in on my Apex dvd player)
>
> Here is how I created it:
>
> 1.Captured 2 minutes .avi uncompressed.
> 2.Used bbMPEG to convert to SVCD format 480X480. (I was basically
> following the directions at
> http://saturn.spaceports.com/%7Edvdsoft/svcd/foolproof.htm Converting
> to the SVCD format took about 25 minutes for 2 minutes of Video! My
> system is Athlon 700 so I was surprised it took that long.
> 3. I used I-author deluxe to author the cd and make the .cif file
> so I could burn it with EZCD.
>
> My conclusions….
>
> Quality is nice but I will be waiting to create more SVCDs until I have
> the following
>
> 1. Video Capture board that can capture SVCD compliant MPEG2 files
> on the fly (Using hardware compression)
> 2. Video Editing software that retains the SVCD format.
>
> Does anyone know if there these 2 things exist?
>
> Heyday
>
Tony L
to burn *.cif, too.
Apply, goto www.freedrive.com
Let us know when *cif file available for download.
Heyday wrote:
Heyday
my SVCD, even though it looked very good. I found some smaller .cif
files that you can try at:
http://www.stanford.edu/~jkratz/svcd_tutorial.htm
Look at the bottom for sample files.
Heyday
In article <390DF42F...@mail.nlm.nih.gov>,
Brett Coon
> I would also be very interested in trying that cif file. Could some
> generous person post this on a website somewhere? I was all set to
> try SVCD on Sunday, and then Nero slipped their delivery date :( If I
> had your cif file, I could at least test my DVD player to see if it
> supports SVCD. Thanks!
> I finally finished creating a non-standard VCD last night that holds 9
> music videos. The videos are encoded at approximately double (2200
> kbps) the standard VCD bit rate. My DVD player plays it, and the
> quality is up to VHS standards - much nicer than standard VCD. My
> guess is that SVCD will look even nicer.
What kind of DVD player do you have? It would be great to get a
list of DVD players than handle handle high-bitrate VCDs and/or
SVCDs.
I have an old dual-laser Sony S300. Anyone know what it does
with these formats? It plays standard VCDs, including CDRs, just
fine.
-Brett
Jukka Aho
news:95732406...@palladium.transmeta.com...
> It would be great to get a list of DVD players than
> handle handle high-bitrate VCDs and/or SVCDs.
As for the SVCD support, check out
<http://www.iki.fi/znark/video/svcd/overview/#related_links>.
The list is by no means very comprehensive, but still better
than nothing.
-- znark
John Mann
> In <wmbt2q1...@ll.mit.edu> John Mann <ma...@ll.mit.edu> writes:
>
> > I would also be very interested in trying that cif file. Could some
> > generous person post this on a website somewhere? I was all set to
> > try SVCD on Sunday, and then Nero slipped their delivery date :( If I
> > had your cif file, I could at least test my DVD player to see if it
> > supports SVCD. Thanks!
>
> > I finally finished creating a non-standard VCD last night that holds 9
> > music videos. The videos are encoded at approximately double (2200
> > kbps) the standard VCD bit rate. My DVD player plays it, and the
> > quality is up to VHS standards - much nicer than standard VCD. My
> > guess is that SVCD will look even nicer.
>
> list of DVD players than handle handle high-bitrate VCDs and/or
> SVCDs.
>
> with these formats? It plays standard VCDs, including CDRs, just
> fine.
>
> -Brett
I have a Pioneer DV-C302D. It also plays SVCD, but it appears to
squish still pictures sometimes (about half the time - it's random).
Maybe that's why they don't claim support for SVCD in the Pioneer
manual.
It's interesting to note that the nonstandard VCDs at 2200 kbps
(mpeg1) appear much cleaner than the SVCD I tested (which is supposed
to be higher variable-bitrate mpeg2). Any ideas why this would be?
Is Ligos just not that good at encoding 480x480? Is it a progressive
vs. interlaced issue?
John
bou...@my-deja.com
SVCD?
More welcome...
I'm a rookie with SVCD and know just a little about it.
Keith Clark
BB
until I went to http://www.nero.com did I find it.
Brian Beagle
Keith Clark <ClarkPho...@spiritone.com> wrote in message
news:3910A2CD...@spiritone.com...
Jukka Aho
> I'm a rookie with SVCD and know just a little about it.
<http://www.iki.fi/znark/video/svcd/overview/>
<http://www.iki.fi/znark/video/svcd/faq/>
-- znark