FCPro HD: General Error 41 - Unable to open file
nicol...@gmail.com
Problems again. Thanks for all of you who responded to my last dilemma.
Using Final Cut Pro HD, I saved my project and tried to reopen it and
it won't open; gives me a "General Error 41" message. I saved a copy
to the desktop and it wouldn't open either. I tried restarting, using
400 firewire and 800 firewire and nothing.
Anyone know of a solution? Thanks and appreciation ahead of time.
Nicole
Jona Vark
<nicol...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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FCP. I have seen that and never found a way around it. Hence the reason we
don;t use FCP anymore. It will be interesting to see if anyone has a
solution for you.
Richard Ragon
That is by far one of the most useless answer I've seen.
Let me ask you something.. If a Mercedes is traveling down the road, it
jumps the curb and hits a telephone pole. Who's to blame? The curb?
The telephone pole, or the engineer who built the road?
I'm glad that you returned the Mac, your too stupid to own a computer.
-Richard
Steve Wills
But, does anyone know of a answer for the guy?
It might be good to know in case it ever happens to me.
Steve
On 10/5/05 1:46 PM, in article
ikU0f.1676$xD7...@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net, "Richard Ragon"
Richard Ragon
> But, does anyone know of a answer for the guy?
>
> It might be good to know in case it ever happens to me.
>
> Steve
I was going to post an answer to the problem, but this person is the
type who only post once, and never comes back to find the answer out.
But, since you asked, I'll give it a shot.
The question is worded poorly I think.. and it's also asked in multiple
newsgroups too. One of which I asked if they would clarify a few things.
Here's my best guess without the original poster clarifying.
Option number 1:
Since the person mentioned something about firewire 400/800, I'm going
to have to assume that I'll bet they wrote their project files to a
remote firewire hard drive. And.. Ten to one, they probably wrote it
using one FCP system, and took the firewire drive home, and tried to
open it with another FCP system.
Permissions are most likely the culprit. Advanced operating systems
such as OSX and other Unix systems use a much more advanced file
permission system than other OS's such as Windows. The windows
permission system is so awful, that just about anybody (or anything) can
get into and write system files even, which is why windows is so prone
to things like viruses.
Unix file systems operate under 3 main groups. The user, the group, and
everyone else. Each group has either read, write, or execute. If you
look under a unix command line window it looks something like this..
-rwxrwxrwx myUser staff 10034 today 1:04 myProjectFile.prct
The first set "rwx" is the user, the next set is the group, and finally
everyone else. The r = read, w = write, and x = execute.
The FCP project that they wrote into the Firewire drive might look like
this..
-rwx------ myUser staff 10034 today 1:04 myProjectFile.prct
If it looks like this.. No one is going to open THAT file unless the
account name is "myUser".
As you know, in nonlinear editing the project file is just the start,
and it takes many more captured files, titles, logos or whatever to make
up a project.. If any of these files don't have the proper permissions
to where the user can't access them, then your in trouble.
If the user saves the project under one user in one system, then they
move the firewire drive to another FCP system, and log into the system
and try to open the project under a different name, this could cause all
kinds of trouble. The best way to operate under multiple users is to
make sure that all the users that you'll be using for the project are in
the same group.
As you can see, this will cause stupid people like "Jona Vark" to just
throw up there hands in in disgust, and proclaim that it is obviously a
"POS".
When Microsoft weighed the options of either making it complex, but very
secure, or making it NOT secure but easy so that stupid people can
operate it... Well.. we all know what they choose.
If you want to use the OSX gui to change file permissions on files and
folders, you can right click on a file or folder (if your using a
Logitec mouse) or CTRL click on a file, and it brings up a contextual
menu. In the contextual menu click on "Get Info". It will bring up
lots of details about folders or files. At the bottom, you'll see
"Ownership and permissions". Change these details matching Owner,
Group, and Others respectively.
Option number 2:
It might be that this person copied the project files over to the
firewire, and forgot the capture files..
The fix would be to put the capture files on the Firewire drive, and set
it in FCP as to where the media is located.
Again.. This is simply a guess here, and the original poster would have
to clarify more.
-Richard
Alpha
"Richard Ragon" <bse...@hananho.com> wrote in message
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This is a typically useless Richard retort. Do you understand your own
useless answers, Richard?
Alpha
Have you every learned to structure anything? This is not an answer, it is
a thought train.
Smarty
Support forum for Final Cut Pro Studio HD at:
http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?5...@464.zbkYaRurYFn.0@.68bb24b4
FCP HD is a superb piece of software in my opinion and a very good reason to
go out and buy a Macintosh exclusively for HDV editing and authoring.
It is truly awesome to make HD DVDs in the exact format and content which is
ready to burn to a blue ray disk. Tell me another program which can offer to
that you.
You can't,.............because..........there is no other program that can
do it other than FCP Studio HD.
Smarty
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Dave Janes
"Richard Ragon" <bse...@hananho.com> wrote in message
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So, in summary, the General Error 41 problem is a function of OSX's superior
file system? Oh, please. I can set all sorts of permissions and encryptions
with Windows XP and NOT lose my work. Any OS that allows a user to lose work
is a faulty OS. Period. I thought Macs were supposed to "just work." Or do
you only mention that in the few cases where it does "just work."
Richard Ragon
Hence the reason I clearly posted this:
"Here's my best guess without the original poster clarifying."
I guess reading (and understanding what you read) is not a requirement
of this newsgroup.
-Richard
Richard Ragon
> There is a discussion of this specific error message / topic on Apple's
> Support forum for Final Cut Pro Studio HD at:
>
> http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?5...@464.zbkYaRurYFn.0@.68bb24b4
>
> FCP HD is a superb piece of software in my opinion and a very good reason to
> go out and buy a Macintosh exclusively for HDV editing and authoring.
While I somewhat agree here Smarty, there's a couple of things I have to
point out.
HD and HDV are NOT the same thing.
> It is truly awesome to make HD DVDs in the exact format and content which is
> ready to burn to a blue ray disk. Tell me another program which can offer to
> that you.
There is no such thing a HD DVDs at the moment. The apple
implementation of the HD DVD has not been set as a standard yet, and the
future will see if HD DVD wins out or is morphed into something else.
Not to mention there's no such thing as a HD DVD player to even play a
so called HD DVD.
And.. to top that off, there's currently NO support for blue ray disk
which is a totally different format, and that format is still in
development too.
> You can't,.............because..........there is no other program that can
> do it other than FCP Studio HD.
FCP doesn't author DVD's, DVD Studio Pro does, which yes.. your right,
DVDSP could be arguably the best DVD authoring program on the planet
hands down!
-Richard
Jona Vark
I didn't return the mac. It is holding down some important papers.
I make a living developing high tech for medical, defense and entertainment.
I have been using and developing computers and hardware and software for 27
years. You , sir are a dolt.
If you think the notice of a "General Error 41" is GOOD programming.. you
would never make it working for me.
You ought to think before you post Richard. I have already exposed your lack
of technical knowledge repeatedly in this NG. It's almost too easy.
>
> -Richard
Jona Vark
"Smarty" <nob...@nobody.com> wrote in message
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> There is a discussion of this specific error message / topic on Apple's
> Support forum for Final Cut Pro Studio HD at:
>
> http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?5...@464.zbkYaRurYFn.0@.68bb24b4
>
> FCP HD is a superb piece of software in my opinion and a very good reason
to
> go out and buy a Macintosh exclusively for HDV editing and authoring.
Sure.. except Premiere is the only app right now that actually DOES HDV
editing.
>
> It is truly awesome to make HD DVDs in the exact format and content which
is
> ready to burn to a blue ray disk. Tell me another program which can offer
to
> that you.
>
> You can't,.............because..........there is no other program that can
> do it other than FCP Studio HD.
ahh... you don't even own it . Change your nickname..
Richard Ragon
> "Smarty" <nob...@nobody.com> wrote in message
> news:FJGdnQZC9JOx89ne...@adelphia.com...
>
>>There is a discussion of this specific error message / topic on Apple's
>>Support forum for Final Cut Pro Studio HD at:
>>
>>http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?5...@464.zbkYaRurYFn.0@.68bb24b4
>>
>>FCP HD is a superb piece of software in my opinion and a very good reason
>
> to
>
>>go out and buy a Macintosh exclusively for HDV editing and authoring.
>
>
> Sure.. except Premiere is the only app right now that actually DOES HDV
> editing.
Huh? At this point I've got to be thinking that your just pulling our
leg.. You can't be this stupid? Can you? HDV support in Premiere is
NOT native.
Humm.. lets see.. FCP, FCP Express, iMovie, Vegas, Canopus, Pinnacle..
You'd better call all these people and let them in on your secrete.
>>It is truly awesome to make HD DVDs in the exact format and content which
>
> is
>
>>ready to burn to a blue ray disk. Tell me another program which can offer
>
> to
>
>>that you.
>>
>>You can't,.............because..........there is no other program that can
>>do it other than FCP Studio HD.
>
>
> ahh... you don't even own it . Change your nickname..
Ding Dong.. Anybody home? No one owns any software on their computers.
You lease it dummy. Don't you read the EULA? Oh.. forgot, you don't
read so hot.
-Richard
Richard Ragon
> I didn't return the mac. It is holding down some important papers.
Further proof that you are.. d.. u.. m.. b..
> I make a living developing high tech for medical, defense and entertainment.
Doesn't everyone here do this?
> I have been using and developing computers and hardware and software for 27
> years. You , sir are a dolt.
Yeah.. And your Mom called.. She say's she's really sorry that after
all that time, she has to kick you out of her basement because she needs
the space for her quilting club now.
-Richard
Jona Vark
> Jona Vark wrote:
>
> > "Smarty" <nob...@nobody.com> wrote in message
> > news:FJGdnQZC9JOx89ne...@adelphia.com...
> >
> >>There is a discussion of this specific error message / topic on Apple's
> >>Support forum for Final Cut Pro Studio HD at:
> >>
> >>http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?5...@464.zbkYaRurYFn.0@.68bb24b4
> >>
> >>FCP HD is a superb piece of software in my opinion and a very good
reason
> >
> > to
> >
> >>go out and buy a Macintosh exclusively for HDV editing and authoring.
> >
> >
> > Sure.. except Premiere is the only app right now that actually DOES HDV
> > editing.
>
> Huh? At this point I've got to be thinking that your just pulling our
> leg.. You can't be this stupid? Can you? HDV support in Premiere is
Premiere is the only app that has no problems doing HDV. Using the Cineform
tech..
Read some trades.. read Post.. Read anything.
> Ding Dong.. Anybody home? No one owns any software on their computers.
> You lease it dummy. Don't you read the EULA? Oh.. forgot, you don't
> read so hot.
Whew.. Anyone else see a total disconnect with reality here? Poor thing..
>
> -Richard
Yes.. who else would post such loony tunes.
>
Jona Vark
you poor angry little twit.
Jona Vark
If you are trying desperately to make some analogy to FCP here you forgot
the part about where the Mercedes stops responding to the steering wheel and
the accelerator goes to the floor.
Of course you may only be able to think of the telephone pole or the
'engineer' who built the road.. but in this case, those of us with half a
brain would certainly blame the Mercedes.
Smarty
Wrong, wrong, wrong, and then wrong yet again.....
For starters, FCP Studio Pro HD is the name for the entire authoring suite,
including the collection of several other Apple applications, and thus does
do DVD authoring, among many other things such as sound mixing, titling, and
compositing in the other pieces of the FCP Studio package. You must be
thinking of the earlier FCP which was at that time only an editing program.
Secondly, FCP Studio Pro ***TODAY*** makes entirely compatible HD DVDs,
including creating the entire correct directory and file structure of the
***ALREADY STANDARDIZED*** HD DVD format. You apparently do not use this
product, since you would see the HD (both NTSC and PAL) DVD formats and
templates, outputs in Compressor, DVD Studio Pro, and elsewhere if you did.
The HD DVDs I am ***NOW BURNING*** are playable using Apple's software DVD
player, which is entirely capable of both SD ***AND HD*** DVD formats. If
you were using the product, you would see the HDDVD_TS Folder, the
corresponding .EVO files, and the new format of the HV10001.x IFO and BUP
files which are all brand new for HD DVDs. As I stated earlier....the
***ONLY THING LACKING*** is blue ray burner support. I can and often do burn
4.7GB HD DVDs using conventional Pioneer and NEC red laser burners with
about 25 minutes of HD contents and could double that if I were willing to
buy dual layer DVDs. And yes, blue ray and possibly red laser HD burner
support has not yet been agreed upon. And thus, Apple will need to deliver a
new burning engine for FCP HD Studio Pro eventually if and when that format
war is resolved.
Your reference to the Apple implementation of the HD DVD standard reflects
your unawareness of the HD standard and what it contains, and also what FCP
Studio HD provides. Do a little research and you will discover that it does
not only contains Apple's MPEG4 codec but also authors MPEG2 HD 25 Mbit/sec
content such as the HD DVDs I author ***TODAY*** as well as Microsoft's
codec. This has been decided quite some time ago. Therefore, the HD DVDs I
am now burning ***DON'T EVEN USE APPLE'S CODEC DESPITE THE FACT THAT IT IS
ONE OF THE 3 CHOSEN STANDARDS FOR HD DVDs***. All of my HD DVDs are encoded
using 25 MBit/sec MPEG2 1080i, which Apple's FCP Studio Pro HD totally
supports in addition to their own codec.
And where did I say that HDV was the same as HD????? I can get into the
semantic and technical distinctions if you'd like, but I did equate the two
in my prior posts.
Smarty
"Richard Ragon" <bse...@hananho.com> wrote in message
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Smarty
Both of your comments mystify me.
Do I understand you to say that Premiere is the only program which edits
HDV?
And secondly, did you state I don't own FCP Studio Pro HD?
Please clarify.
Smarty
"Jona Vark" <noe...@all.com> wrote in message
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Richard Ragon
All of which supports Apple's implementation of HD DVD just like I said.
You've not making HD DVD discs.
So.. All you have to do is simply send me the links to where you can
buy a HD DVD stand alone player, and HD DVD blank media disc.
Utill then, you may think that you're an early adopter, but in fact the
technology is all theory until you start making HD DVD's.
-Richard
Richard Ragon
> If you are trying desperately to make some analogy to FCP here you forgot
> the part about where the Mercedes stops responding to the steering wheel and
> the accelerator goes to the floor.
> Of course you may only be able to think of the telephone pole or the
> 'engineer' who built the road.. but in this case, those of us with half a
> brain would certainly blame the Mercedes.
Those of us with a full brain would suspect the driver.
-Richard
Richard Ragon
Wow.. I must have hit a little close to home here, huh..
-Richard
Jona Vark
> > you poor angry little twit.
>
> Wow.. I must have hit a little close to home here, huh..
you poor angry, delusional, little twit.
>
> -Richard
Jona Vark
> Richard,
>
> Wrong, wrong, wrong, and then wrong yet again.....
Smarty.. you're gonna confuse Richard with facts...
Jona Vark
So you're saying that if the Mercedes stops responding to the steering wheel
and the accelerator gets stuck you would blame the driver?
I'd say you're not using 99% of your 'full' brain . Nothing new.. of
course.. just an observation.
ka...@sonic.net
Roof job.
Smarty
Well, my ill-informed friend...if it's HD DVD players you are looking
for....here are two to start with:
http://www.fotoconnection.com/viewitem.php?IndexID=12999&RefTag=froogle
http://labs.divx.com/archives/000032.html
and here's an HD streaming media player:
http://www.shop4tech.com/?go=view_item&id=3294&r=183
as well as WMVHD players as well.
These have absolutely nothing to do with what you incorrectly characterize
as HD in some special "Apple" format.
You call all of this HD "theoretical". I call you ill-informed and unwilling
to admit you are wrong.
Smarty
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Smarty
None of us doubt that you have "a full brain".
It is specifically what it is filled with that smells remarkably like
shit.....
Smarty
"Richard Ragon" <bse...@hananho.com> wrote in message
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Richard Ragon
> Richard,
>
> Well, my ill-informed friend...if it's HD DVD players you are looking
> for....here are two to start with:
>
> http://www.fotoconnection.com/viewitem.php?IndexID=12999&RefTag=froogle
>
> http://labs.divx.com/archives/000032.html
>
> and here's an HD streaming media player:
>
> http://www.shop4tech.com/?go=view_item&id=3294&r=183
>
> as well as WMVHD players as well.
>
> These have absolutely nothing to do with what you incorrectly characterize
> as HD in some special "Apple" format.
>
> You call all of this HD "theoretical". I call you ill-informed and unwilling
> to admit you are wrong.
>
> Smarty
Ahh.. Those links show DivX HD players.. Which are NOT HD DVD (or
blue-ray) players. DivX HD is a totally different format. It's a
Regular DVD player, using DivX Codec to get HD results.. Which by the
way is awesome, I have one.. and it rocks. You can put 30 hours of HD
video on a regular DVD using DivX codec.
But.. HD DVD and Blue Ray is a new hardware device, utilizing "blue
laser" technology. These players are the old Red laser technology.
And.. if you take a look at details from the Manufacture itself
(Toshiba), you'll see that the new HD DVD have not be launched yet.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050930/ap_on_hi_te/next_generation_dvds
It's apparent that you don't understand the difference between a regular
DVD and a HD DVD.
-Richard
p.s. Notice the comment that the new HD DVD players will cost under
$1000. That means when released in 2006, it'll be around $999.
Richard Ragon
> "Richard Ragon" <bse...@hananho.com> wrote in message
> news:2Zg1f.862$ht7...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
>
>>Jona Vark wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>If you are trying desperately to make some analogy to FCP here you
>
> forgot
>
>>>the part about where the Mercedes stops responding to the steering wheel
>
> and
>
>>>the accelerator goes to the floor.
>>>Of course you may only be able to think of the telephone pole or the
>>>'engineer' who built the road.. but in this case, those of us with half
>
> a
>
>>>brain would certainly blame the Mercedes.
>>
>>
>>Those of us with a full brain would suspect the driver.
>>
>>-Richard
>>
>
>
> So you're saying that if the Mercedes stops responding to the steering wheel
> and the accelerator gets stuck you would blame the driver?
More times than not, it's usually the operator error. The automotive
industry each year makes cars safer and safer, unfortunately they can't
combat idiots such as you.
Next time someone cuts you off in traffic, do you drive by and honk at
his car.
-Richard
Jona Vark
> More times than not, it's usually the operator error. The automotive
> industry each year makes cars safer and safer, unfortunately they can't
> combat idiots such as you.
That's brilliant Richard. Doesn't have a single thing to do with the
hypothetical or the analogy but it is an astute observation on your part.
I can't phrase the hypotheical any clearer for you so at this point, since
you have nothing but insults to offer which have nothing to do with the fact
that you have no idea what a "General Error 41" is..
I'll leave it to the rest of these fine folks to humiliate you further. My
job here is done.
>
> Next time someone cuts you off in traffic, do you drive by and honk at
> his car.
Is this a question? A statement? Random Text. A lame ass point you're trying
to make?
>
> -Richard
Smarty
The codec choices have been made over a year ago, as I have copied from the
lengthy June 14, 2004 article at CNET:
Next-generation DVD moves ahead
By Ed Frauenheim
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
Published: June 14, 2004, 11:04 AM PDT
Last week, the DVD Forum steering committee approved version 1.0 of the
physical specifications for HD-DVD read-only discs and voted to require that
makers of HD-DVD video playback devices build in three video codecs,
including the VC-9 technology used in Microsoft's Windows Media Video 9.
Approval of version 1.0 of the HD-DVD physical specifications gives
manufacturers a green light to begin producing devices, said Wolfgang
Schlichting, an analyst with researcher IDC.
In addition to requiring the VC-9 codec when products are made to the HD-DVD
video specification for playback devices, the DVD Forum steering committee
also mandated the inclusion of MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 AVC (H.264).
http://news.com.com/Next-generation+DVD+moves+ahead/2100-1040_3-5233211.html
My original point was / is that Final Cut Pro Studio HD legitimately claims
to, and is, the first authoring suite to allow the authoring of HD format
disks. And also, there are no other HD DVD authoring products shipping to do
so. In this regard, FCP creates and builds disk images with the approved
format and content and codecs which have already been approved with correct
file and directory structures which observe the HD DVD standard. The
hardware players will await blue ray and other format war resolution, as we
all understand.
My more recent point and assertion is that hardware to play HD content
already exists in several flavors. HD-DVD is not the only method to bring
high definition video to a viewer. Arguably, depending upon the outcome of
the format wars, and of copy protection and digital rights management issues
as well as squabbling in the movie industry over these issues and pricing,
it may be YEARS before any single standardized delivery arises.
In the interim, those of us who work with HD video are delivering content
TODAY using tools which already exist. Amazon already sells a very
attractive collection of WMVHD DVD titles, some I which I own and enjoy. I
also author DVDs in WMVHD and distribute HD content in this format as well
as several others. None of this is "theoretical", and I have stacks of
finished HD DVD disks which are as tangible as any SD disks I make. Yes it
is true that LG's and Sanyo's HD DVD players use red laser and specifically
supports the DiVX HD approach. And there is no set-top HD hardware player
out there today doing 25 Mbit/second MPEG2, although I personally have every
reason to believe that the Chinese will do an Apex or other similar player
with their own MPEG2 or H.264/MPEG4 LSI long before blue ray and HD DVD get
resolved.
Apparently you somehow believe that Apple's approach is a closed, Apple-only
solution. Their specification states:
DVD Standards
a.. Author traditional DVDs using SD assets
b.. Author HD DVDs using SD and HD assets
c.. Burn discs containing both an SD and an HD project
Output Formats
a.. DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW, Double-layer media
b.. Double-layer media support
c.. DLT drive (required for DVD-9 projects)
d.. DDP 2.0 and 2.1
e.. CMF 1.0
f.. Disk Image
g.. Video_TS to hard drive
h.. HVDVD_TS to hard drive
What is "theoretical" about this from your point of view? Is it the fact
that the blue ray burners are not standardized and released yet?
Smarty
"Richard Ragon" <bse...@hananho.com> wrote in message
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Richard Ragon
> Richard,
>
> The codec choices have been made over a year ago, as I have copied from the
> lengthy June 14, 2004 article at CNET:
Lots of Codecs on the market.. This doesn't change the fact that there
are NO HD DVD players on the market, and none that will be until next
year.. and maybe not even then.
> My original point was / is that Final Cut Pro Studio HD legitimately claims
> to, and is, the first authoring suite to allow the authoring of HD format
> disks. And also, there are no other HD DVD authoring products shipping to do
> so. In this regard, FCP creates and builds disk images with the approved
> format and content and codecs which have already been approved with correct
> file and directory structures which observe the HD DVD standard. The
> hardware players will await blue ray and other format war resolution, as we
> all understand.
Just like the Blekin "Pre-N" routers. Sure the standard for an
application has been created. Unfortunately, once Linksys releases it's
"Pre-N" router.. It may, or maynot be compatible with a Belkin card or
router. We can't be sure until its all set.
For all we know, the entire format could get shit canned.. It looks like
Blue-Ray is going to win out anyway.
> My more recent point and assertion is that hardware to play HD content
> already exists in several flavors. HD-DVD is not the only method to bring
> high definition video to a viewer. Arguably, depending upon the outcome of
> the format wars, and of copy protection and digital rights management issues
> as well as squabbling in the movie industry over these issues and pricing,
> it may be YEARS before any single standardized delivery arises.
HD DVD's are the only thing that we're talking about, this is simply an
effort to cloud the issue. Citing alternative HD formats or modded DVD
players doesn't do anything.
> In the interim, those of us who work with HD video are delivering content
> TODAY using tools which already exist. Amazon already sells a very
> attractive collection of WMVHD DVD titles, some I which I own and enjoy. I
> also author DVDs in WMVHD and distribute HD content in this format as well
> as several others. None of this is "theoretical", and I have stacks of
> finished HD DVD disks which are as tangible as any SD disks I make. Yes it
> is true that LG's and Sanyo's HD DVD players use red laser and specifically
> supports the DiVX HD approach. And there is no set-top HD hardware player
> out there today doing 25 Mbit/second MPEG2, although I personally have every
> reason to believe that the Chinese will do an Apex or other similar player
> with their own MPEG2 or H.264/MPEG4 LSI long before blue ray and HD DVD get
> resolved.
Laser Disc and CDi I thought were great technologies too.. So? Your
wasting your time making your "implementation" of what you think HD DVD
is.. Until the hardware is released, and a HD DVD player (with blue
laser) is here for the masses, grandma can't play your disc... only
people that buy a "morphed" DivX DVD player.
> Apparently you somehow believe that Apple's approach is a closed, Apple-only
> solution. Their specification states:
Nope.. Didn't say closed. I said, their "implementation" of HD DVD.
Based on the current standards, in theory you should be able to create a
HD DVD that plays on HD DVD players, once they're invented.
> What is "theoretical" about this from your point of view? Is it the fact
> that the blue ray burners are not standardized and released yet?
Here's why making a HD DVD is a theory right now. Right now, it looks
as if "Blue-Ray" is the prevailing format at the moment. Most of the
studios are getting behind blue-ray right now. It's possible that
Toshiba might just throw in the towel and call it quits, and right now
would be a great time because there's only a standard on "PAPER" right
now.. And no HD DVD players or disc exist on the market today. Once
they release the hardware to the general public, that's it.. It's done,
it's on the next level now.. But until that hardware is done, it's all a
theory! Once of which can be shit canned at any time.. In fact, many
people are suggesting that Toshiba will fail, and the whole thing will
be scraped.
Now don't get me wrong I totally commend Apple for placing HD DVD
support in DVDSP4, that's awesome, but they themselves are backing
blue-ray which means they are going too back a competing theory, and
they don't even think the HD DVD theory is as good as the blue-ray theory.
-Richard
Richard Ragon
>
>>Next time someone cuts you off in traffic, do you drive by and honk at
>>his car.
>
>
> Is this a question? A statement? Random Text. A lame ass point you're trying
> to make?
Apparently I just made it by your reply.
-Richard
Smarty
I think we are violently agreeing that blue laser DVDs are a future reality
which will be possibly delayed for a long time.
I entirely disagree with your premise that delivery of HD content on DVDs
today is in any way either theoretical or that players and HD media which
are already out there are somehow irrelevant. Ironically, you personally
have an HD DiVX compatible player and you yourself call it
awesome..............
Is it theoretical, awesome, neither, or both??
Smarty
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Richard Ragon
> Richard,
>
> I think we are violently agreeing that blue laser DVDs are a future reality
> which will be possibly delayed for a long time.
Blue laser players are the future yes. And when they are invented, we
shall see which format dominates. Right now its looking like blue-ray
and NOT HD DVD.
Delayed for a long time? No, The article says Toshiba to release 1st
quarter of next year. Which is practically right around the corner. And
I think that I heard that date might be late though..
> I entirely disagree with your premise that delivery of HD content on DVDs
> today is in any way either theoretical or that players and HD media which
> are already out there are somehow irrelevant. Ironically, you personally
> have an HD DiVX compatible player and you yourself call it
> awesome..............
>
> Is it theoretical, awesome, neither, or both??
We're not taking about delivery of HD though some kind of modified SP
DVD player. Your argument was whether HD DVD exist.. They don't
because you have failed to show me a single "player" that you can
actually go buy. And until grandma can go down to the Best Buy and buy
it, it doesn't exist yet.
Yeah, I have the Buffalo DVD DivX player. It's NOT a HD DVD nor a
blue-ray player as you claim.. It's just a regular media player that
plays .mp4, Divx, Xvid, and QT from files. Files can be on a regular
DVD, Flash drive, or over a network. But just because it plays HD DivX
doesn't suddenly make it a HD DVD player as you've claimed in your links.
-Richard
Richard Ragon
>
> Premiere is the only app that has no problems doing HDV. Using the Cineform
> tech..
> Read some trades.. read Post.. Read anything.
So, FCP, FCP Express, iMovie, Vegas, Canopus, Pinnacle are all lying
when they say that they have no problems doing HDV?
>>Ding Dong.. Anybody home? No one owns any software on their computers.
>> You lease it dummy. Don't you read the EULA? Oh.. forgot, you don't
>>read so hot.
>
>
> Whew.. Anyone else see a total disconnect with reality here? Poor thing..
You claimed your a software developer? And yet you don't know anything
about software EULA's?
-Richard
Dave
> "Richard Ragon" <bse...@hananho.com> wrote in message
> news:9Cd1f.11478$6e1....@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
>
>>Jona Vark wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Smarty" <nob...@nobody.com> wrote in message
>>>news:FJGdnQZC9JOx89ne...@adelphia.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>There is a discussion of this specific error message / topic on Apple's
>>>>Support forum for Final Cut Pro Studio HD at:
>>>>
>>>>http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?5...@464.zbkYaRurYFn.0@.68bb24b4
>>>>
>>>>FCP HD is a superb piece of software in my opinion and a very good
>
> reason
>
>>>to
>>>
>>>
>>>>go out and buy a Macintosh exclusively for HDV editing and authoring.
>>>
>>>
>>>Sure.. except Premiere is the only app right now that actually DOES HDV
>>>editing.
>>
>>Huh? At this point I've got to be thinking that your just pulling our
>>leg.. You can't be this stupid? Can you? HDV support in Premiere is
>>NOT native.\
>
>
> Premiere is the only app that has no problems doing HDV. Using the Cineform
> tech..
> Read some trades.. read Post.. Read anything.
I have Vegas, and it has no problems with HDV. Just bought my Sony HDV
last week. Vegas works rock solid.
>>Ding Dong.. Anybody home? No one owns any software on their computers.
>> You lease it dummy. Don't you read the EULA? Oh.. forgot, you don't
>>read so hot.
>
>
> Whew.. Anyone else see a total disconnect with reality here? Poor thing..
He's right. You don't actually own software, unless you created it
yourself. I read the EULA on all my installs. Mostly software vendors
give you the right to "use" the software.. Exactly what that means is
somewhat of a myth to most people.
Just my $0.02
David
Dave
Richard Ragon
thats it.. I'm calling your mother.
-Richard
Jona Vark
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That's true David. That's why it is called license agreement. But for all
practical purposes you OWN the copy and not the software. At any rate..
Richard was just being a desperate troll.
Jona Vark
> Jona Vark wrote:
>
> >
> > Premiere is the only app that has no problems doing HDV. Using the
Cineform
> > tech..
> > Read some trades.. read Post.. Read anything.
>
> So, FCP, FCP Express, iMovie, Vegas, Canopus, Pinnacle are all lying
> when they say that they have no problems doing HDV?
>
>
>
> >>Ding Dong.. Anybody home? No one owns any software on their computers.
> >> You lease it dummy. Don't you read the EULA? Oh.. forgot, you don't
> >>read so hot.
I own the copies of the software I buy. I do not own the software. You're
really reaching, son. Trying to turn this into a discussion about EULAs,
apparently you just learned about them, is pathetic and desperate. You made
an ass out of yourself again in this thread.
> >
> >
> > Whew.. Anyone else see a total disconnect with reality here? Poor
thing..
>
> You claimed your a software developer? And yet you don't know anything
> about software EULA's?
Oh you stupid fuck. First of all NOT ALL software contains an End User
License Agreement. I certainly don't have to add a EULA to firmware for a
synth, dsp code, firmware running in a jet or any other embedded code. I
don't add them to Windows or Mac apps I write either. OF course if companies
who sell my code want to add a EULA they're able to do so. Of course, the
fact that I have written license agreements for programs over the last 25
years actualy makes me more knowledgable than someone who hasn't wriiten a
line of code in their young life.
What stupid argument are you going to come up with next that have nothing to
do with a "General Error 41" ? We're all very interested. It's kinda fun to
watch someone implode.
>
> -Richard
Smarty
It appears that you must be hung up on the semantics then. A DVD player
which can deliver HD content in my parlance is an HD DVD player. You
apparently reserve the term HD DVD player exclusively for the consortium of
Toshiba, NEC, etc. and their yet to be released "HD-DVD" player. By your
strict definition, the blue ray HD DVD players will not be a true HD DVD
player either. I never considered the possibility that your earlier
references were to the literal name chosen only by one of the competing DVD
approaches for HD delivery named "HD-DVD". Clearly if this is your only
interpretation of what an "HD-DVD" is, then of course there is no player for
grandma to buy yet.
So I guess I could stop referring to the DVDs I produce as HD, despite the
fact that they are 1080i content and nicely fit up to about an hour on a
DVD-9.
Or maybe I can ignore your stupid and pointless semantic distinction, since
it an irrelevant want of distinguishing disks which are DVDs and contain HD
content.
To return to my original assertion, Final Cut Pro Studio HD delivers
**TODAY** DVDs in HD format using the DVD Forum standard for codecs,
directory structure, and file contents. Your speculation that they may
eventually fail to possibly meet the Toshiba/NEC consortium's "HD-DVD"
format is the only "theoretical" fantasy as far as I am concerned.
Smarty
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ka...@sonic.net
Often occupy the same space.
>
>David
Richard Ragon
> Richard,
>
> It appears that you must be hung up on the semantics then. A DVD player
> which can deliver HD content in my parlance is an HD DVD player. You
> apparently reserve the term HD DVD player exclusively for the consortium of
> Toshiba, NEC, etc. and their yet to be released "HD-DVD" player. By your
> strict definition, the blue ray HD DVD players will not be a true HD DVD
> player either. I never considered the possibility that your earlier
> references were to the literal name chosen only by one of the competing DVD
> approaches for HD delivery named "HD-DVD". Clearly if this is your only
> interpretation of what an "HD-DVD" is, then of course there is no player for
> grandma to buy yet.
It's also clearly Apples too.. When they say HD DVD, they are
specifically talking about Toshiba's HD DVD implementation for creating
HD DVD disc also..
> So I guess I could stop referring to the DVDs I produce as HD, despite the
> fact that they are 1080i content and nicely fit up to about an hour on a
> DVD-9.
No, but you can stop referring to it as HD DVD, because what your
producing is clearly NOT, since the format doesn't exist yet.
> Or maybe I can ignore your stupid and pointless semantic distinction, since
> it an irrelevant want of distinguishing disks which are DVDs and contain HD
> content.
The semantics are specifically referring to HD DVD.. Which you think
that your making, but your not.
> To return to my original assertion, Final Cut Pro Studio HD delivers
> **TODAY** DVDs in HD format using the DVD Forum standard for codecs,
> directory structure, and file contents. Your speculation that they may
> eventually fail to possibly meet the Toshiba/NEC consortium's "HD-DVD"
> format is the only "theoretical" fantasy as far as I am concerned.
>
> Smarty
Not just me.. May experts agree that Blue Ray will eventually win out.
If this happens before the HD DVD hardware gets released, your going to
see Apple remove the HD DVD support that's in DVDSP4 in a hurry and try
to get that Blue-Ray support in.
I don't have any vested interest in either format, and like most, I
adopt a "wait and see" attitude as we still have a Beta vs VHS war going on.
-Richard
Richard Ragon
>
> So, in summary, the General Error 41 problem is a function of OSX's superior
> file system? Oh, please. I can set all sorts of permissions and encryptions
> with Windows XP and NOT lose my work. Any OS that allows a user to lose work
> is a faulty OS. Period. I thought Macs were supposed to "just work." Or do
> you only mention that in the few cases where it does "just work."
There is no lost work. I simply suggested that it might be a
permissions error.
PC Magazine declared OSX number 3 on the Top 100 items for 2005.
http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,120763,pg,12,00.asp
Humm.. Which has more leverage, millions of people using it every day,
or some Bozo in a newsgroup claiming it is faulty... Hummm.
-Richard
Smarty
Your comment makes no sense at all to me.
Apple became part of the Blue Ray consortium over 6 months ago, well before
the release of Final Cut Studio Pro HD. Why in the world would you expect
them to ***ONLY*** support the opposing format? What a totally bizarre
opinion.
Also, I suggest you call Microsoft and tell them their HD DVDs encoded in
WMVHD are also not high definition nor are they DVDs. Your strict semantic
viewpoint on how the rest of the world operates is clearly not shared by
them either. For the time being I will refer to the Microsoft DVDs as well
as my own DVDs which I have authored in 1080i high definition as
"theoretical disks" in honor of your keen powers of both proper use of
language and observation.
Smarty
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Richard Ragon
> Richard,
>
> Your comment makes no sense at all to me.
>
> Apple became part of the Blue Ray consortium over 6 months ago, well before
> the release of Final Cut Studio Pro HD. Why in the world would you expect
> them to ***ONLY*** support the opposing format? What a totally bizarre
> opinion.
Because there's NO Blue-ray support in DVDSP4. It only supports HD DVD.
Not opinion, fact.
> Also, I suggest you call Microsoft and tell them their HD DVDs encoded in
> WMVHD are also not high definition nor are they DVDs. Your strict semantic
> viewpoint on how the rest of the world operates is clearly not shared by
> them either. For the time being I will refer to the Microsoft DVDs as well
> as my own DVDs which I have authored in 1080i high definition as
> "theoretical disks" in honor of your keen powers of both proper use of
> language and observation.
>
> Smarty
You seam to simply just not have a grasp on actually what HD DVD is. It
is a format (both hardware and software) for standardization of
playing a new HD DVD hardware. This not only includes the software
(which is what you can do with FCP Studio) but also the new blue laser
technology which is coming in the "future". Until then, both HD DVD and
Blue-ray DVD's do not exist.
Your bastardized regular DVD that wont play on anything but a computer
and a special DVD players is NOT HD DVD.
-Richard
Jona Vark
Millions of people use crack every day too.. You are probably one of them
judging by your stupid, childish personal responses here. Anyone who can
defend an error notification like "Genreal Error 41" should be ignored. If
you think that is normal or good programming practice then you ought to be
ignored as a mac hack that you are.
Maybe he should 'repair permissions?" yeah.. that's something a good OS
requires a user to do often..
Or how 'bout the usual response from mac zealots: " Reinstall everything..
then it should work"
LOL!
Do you actually read PC Magazine? Like the articles that show $1400 PCs out
pacing macs? I love those.
>
> -Richard
Dave Janes
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Oh, did Richard respond to my post? Must have been too busy getting work
done on my PC to notice. Back to work now.
Smarty
Apple is a very strategic and smart company, and will support whatever file
and directory structure(s) are ultimately released after the dust settles.
The original DVD spec for standard definition disks has evolved
significantly since its' original release, and anybody and everybody who
wants to play in the DVD game has evolved their authoring tools
correspondingly. Apple has taken the lead in HD authoring, and will likely
continue to do so in the future. Therefore.......
I will not and do not buy your argument that Apple will ***ONLY*** continue
to support the competing HD-DVD format, despite the fact that they, Apple,
are members of the BlueRay team. It makes no sense whatsoever from a
business point of view. And if their current FCPS-HD version has limited or
no support for BlueRay, it is extremely obvious to me that a minor software
rev will be released as soon as they market allows for BlueRay burners to
emerge.
I am not going to argue the semantic point with you any further except to
point out that HD-DVD ***is*** a blue laser technology and is, as you admit,
supported ***TODAY*** in Final Cut Pro Studio HD. Therefore, your
"theoretical" argument is, as I originally complained, senseless.
Smarty
"Richard Ragon" <bse...@hananho.com> wrote in message
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Richard Ragon
> Richard,
>
> Apple is a very strategic and smart company, and will support whatever file
> and directory structure(s) are ultimately released after the dust settles.
Agreed.
> The original DVD spec for standard definition disks has evolved
> significantly since its' original release, and anybody and everybody who
> wants to play in the DVD game has evolved their authoring tools
No.. that's why it's called a standard. Do you even know what
"standards" are? There is NO EVOLUTION in standards. If something is
to change, it's not "evolution", it's a new standard.
> correspondingly. Apple has taken the lead in HD authoring, and will likely
> continue to do so in the future. Therefore.......
> I will not and do not buy your argument that Apple will ***ONLY*** continue
> to support the competing HD-DVD format, despite the fact that they, Apple,
> are members of the BlueRay team. It makes no sense whatsoever from a
> business point of view. And if their current FCPS-HD version has limited or
> no support for BlueRay, it is extremely obvious to me that a minor software
> rev will be released as soon as they market allows for BlueRay burners to
> emerge.
I'm starting to wonder, is English a second language for you? I'm not
being funny or nothing.. I'm just curious as to how you jump to such
conclusions.
Did I use the word *** ONLY *** (I even went back and looked) just in
case, and I never used the word ONLY..
Since it looks like Blue-Ray is going to win out to most people, I'm
POSITIVE that Apple will include Blue-Ray in future versions of DVDSP
software. I just said it's NOT in right now, that's all.
> I am not going to argue the semantic point with you any further except to
> point out that HD-DVD ***is*** a blue laser technology and is, as you admit,
> supported ***TODAY*** in Final Cut Pro Studio HD. Therefore, your
> "theoretical" argument is, as I originally complained, senseless.
Well.. at least your half way their now.. You at least admit HD DVD is
blue laser.
.. And, just keep this in mind.. Without a blue laser writer, and
without a blue laser disc media, you NOT making HD DVD's. The
bastardized or morphed or some other kind of special SP DVD that your
making doesn't make it a HD DVD by simply being able to write some other
codec on it.
-Richard
Smarty
As my prior post states, "The original DVD ***spec*** for standard
definition disks has evolved significantly". You have somehow twisted this
into a discussion of "standards" and then accused me of not knowing what
"standards" are. What the fuck are you talking about, you imbecile?? The
DVD-Video 1.0 specification was released in 1996. The DVD Video 1.1
specification was released in 1998, etc. This ***is*** an evolving
specification, regardless of what you are moronically trying to criticize.
Despite your semantic and imprecise opinion, HD DVD is a collection of
approaches to creating high definition DVDs, and only you, in your extreme
stupidity, insist upon a singular and incomplete definition. Take a look at
http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#3.13
You should also note that even the DVD Forum does not use the designation
"DVD-HD" to describe their solution.
Maybe this will begin to overcome your dim-witted semantic interpretation.
I am done trying to educate you. You are truly clueless.
Smarty
"Richard Ragon" <bse...@hananho.com> wrote in message
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Richard Ragon
> Millions of people use crack every day too.. You are probably one of them
> judging by your stupid, childish personal responses here. Anyone who can
> defend an error notification like "Genreal Error 41" should be ignored. If
> you think that is normal or good programming practice then you ought to be
> ignored as a mac hack that you are.
Interesting.. My job requires that I work with PC's, Mac's, Linux
Server, and AT&T Unix Servers. I also do networking in Netware, Samba,
NetBios, and if you can remember far back enough LANTastic. I work with
super high speed routers such as Alcatel, Lucent, Nortel, and Cisco, and
have many certifications in communication fields.
I'm actually not trying to flaunt my 30+ year computer experience,
simply trying to make a point..
What is interesting is that someone ask a question, I reply giving
detailed, very descriptive step by step solution of what might be the
problem, and how to not only FIX the problem, but how to understand it
and what's going on.
My reply is met with a horde of miserable windows zealots calling me a
Mac hack or a Mac Zealot?? Not one person has a viable solution to the
guy that needs help, just tons of negativity starting 20 seconds after
the initial posting. Bitterness because they themselves are failures in
life. Existing only by hanging out in newsgroups, hoping that they can
bring down the quality of everyone else to their low miserable existence.
(hey I out to save that one) :)
> Maybe he should 'repair permissions?" yeah.. that's something a good OS
> requires a user to do often..
Good OS's don't need Zone Alarm, MS Firewall, SpyWare zapper, SpyBot
S&D, Norton Disk Defrag, Norton Speed Disc, MS Disc Defrag, and McAfee
Virus Scan to run either.
> Or how 'bout the usual response from mac zealots: " Reinstall everything..
> then it should work"
Ahh.. I think that you have it mixed up.. that's the common windows
cure once you get a spyware.
> LOL!
>
> Do you actually read PC Magazine? Like the articles that show $1400 PCs out
> pacing macs? I love those.
If that article were in A Mac Publication, I'd WOULD be impressed.
How about this article showing the iMac as PC magazines best Pick!!
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1851295,00.asp
-Richard
Smarty
One more thing...........you will note that the web site I just sent you at:
http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#3.13
where HD DVD is described lists a total of 5 HD DVD formats as of mid 2004,
and more than half of these use ***red**, not ***blue*** lasers.
Not only do I not "admit" that HD DVD exclusively uses blue lasers, but I
(and others) obviously disagree entirely with your semantic premise. I am
not "half way there"......you cretin.
Smarty
"Richard Ragon" <bse...@hananho.com> wrote in message
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> Smarty wrote:
>> Richard,
ka...@sonic.net
wrote:
>Smarty wrote:
>> Richard,
>>
>> Apple is a very strategic and smart company, and will support whatever file
>> and directory structure(s) are ultimately released after the dust settles.
>
>Agreed.
>
>
>> The original DVD spec for standard definition disks has evolved
>> significantly since its' original release, and anybody and everybody who
>> wants to play in the DVD game has evolved their authoring tools
>
>No.. that's why it's called a standard. Do you even know what
>"standards" are? There is NO EVOLUTION in standards. If something is
>to change, it's not "evolution", it's a new standard.
Do you really think you're such a pithy wordsmith or are you
bucking for a starring role in a movie about a disingenue?
Quibbles like yours are out of place in this discussion. While
a standard may be improved upon, requiring a slight name change (e.g.
802.11a/b/c), anyone with their head screwed on in the correct
direction would routinely refer to that as an "evolving standard".
It's recognized in the very naming convention where closely related
standards still use the same base nomenclature (e.g. 802.11).
It is also not incorrect to refer to evolving "standards" of
performance, usage or practice.
>
>> correspondingly. Apple has taken the lead in HD authoring, and will likely
>> continue to do so in the future. Therefore.......
>
>> I will not and do not buy your argument that Apple will ***ONLY*** continue
>> to support the competing HD-DVD format, despite the fact that they, Apple,
>> are members of the BlueRay team. It makes no sense whatsoever from a
>> business point of view. And if their current FCPS-HD version has limited or
>> no support for BlueRay, it is extremely obvious to me that a minor software
>> rev will be released as soon as they market allows for BlueRay burners to
>> emerge.
>
>I'm starting to wonder, is English a second language for you? I'm not
>being funny or nothing.
Evident from your own grammar. Is English your
first/second/third/next language?
Richard Ragon
> Richard,
>
> As my prior post states, "The original DVD ***spec*** for standard
> definition disks has evolved significantly". You have somehow twisted this
> into a discussion of "standards" and then accused me of not knowing what
> "standards" are. What the fuck are you talking about, you imbecile?? The
> DVD-Video 1.0 specification was released in 1996. The DVD Video 1.1
> specification was released in 1998, etc. This ***is*** an evolving
> specification, regardless of what you are moronically trying to criticize.
No, its not. Standards DO NOT EVOLVE. They are superseded by a new
standard. If they "evolved" it wouldn't be much of a standard now would
it.. think about it. You make a hardware product based on a standard,
1 year later if they "changed" the standard you can't change the product
to match. That's why its called a standard.
It's becoming painfully obvious you have no idea what your talking
about. The Physical standard on DVD-R was started by ECMA-279 (Dec.
98). A new standard was written to replace ECMA-279 with ECMA-267 which
added more size to the disc. After that came ECMA-359 which defined
DVD-R(G) which is now the current standard to this day.
Just because you can place different data on it doesn't make it
"evolve". Your original argument was that I'm making HD DVD right now..
NO YOUR NOT.
> Despite your semantic and imprecise opinion, HD DVD is a collection of
> approaches to creating high definition DVDs, and only you, in your extreme
> stupidity, insist upon a singular and incomplete definition. Take a look at
>
> http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#3.13
Those are the proposed version of the new HD DVD. Notice HD DVD and
Blueray on 2 of those.. Also notice that your so called DivX HD is not
on the list.
> You should also note that even the DVD Forum does not use the designation
> "DVD-HD" to describe their solution.
And??
> Maybe this will begin to overcome your dim-witted semantic interpretation.
>
> I am done trying to educate you. You are truly clueless.
Translation.. I'm burying myself, deeper and deeper, and I need to get
out of here fast.
-Richard
Smarty
Thank you for sparing me another round of playing word games with Richard. I
have done too much already to encourage this troll.
Smarty
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Richard Ragon
> Richard,
>
> One more thing...........you will note that the web site I just sent you at:
> http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#3.13
>
> where HD DVD is described lists a total of 5 HD DVD formats as of mid 2004,
> and more than half of these use ***red**, not ***blue*** lasers.
>
> Not only do I not "admit" that HD DVD exclusively uses blue lasers, but I
> (and others) obviously disagree entirely with your semantic premise. I am
> not "half way there"......you cretin.
>
> Smarty
I love DVD demystified, but looking at that section I have to admit,
it's somewhat confusing and slightly even out of date now. A lot has
been changing in the HD DVD/BlueRay battle going on right now.
For example, DTS audio was added to the HD DVD and Blue-ray
specifications about a year ago, and its not stated on DVD demystified
site there. And, I believe that there's even yet another format up for
specification from the Government of China just to make it even worse.
-Richard
ka...@sonic.net
>Kashe,
>
>Thank you for sparing me another round of playing word games with Richard. I
>have done too much already to encourage this troll.
Sometimes you just have to cut your losses when dealing wiith
a bozo who will not learn. There are a few in any newsgroup.
Richard Ragon
> On Sat, 8 Oct 2005 23:00:47 -0400, "Smarty" <nob...@nobody.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Kashe,
>>
>>Thank you for sparing me another round of playing word games with Richard. I
>>have done too much already to encourage this troll.
>
>
> Sometimes you just have to cut your losses when dealing wiith
> a bozo who will not learn. There are a few in any newsgroup.
Yeah.. your right.. Well.. At least you learned something about
standard, and proper terminology.
-Richard
Dave
> Jona Vark wrote:
>> Maybe he should 'repair permissions?" yeah.. that's something a good OS
>> requires a user to do often..
>
>
> Good OS's don't need Zone Alarm, MS Firewall, SpyWare zapper, SpyBot
> S&D, Norton Disk Defrag, Norton Speed Disc, MS Disc Defrag, and McAfee
> Virus Scan to run either.
>
lol. So so true.
Dave
Gary P
I don't need any of those things on my editing-dedicated PC because I don't
really see a need to connect an editing machine to the Internet.
And at most, even if you did, you'd need only one of each of the classes of
software Richard has so conveniently doubled or tripled.
Gary
Steve Wills
Hey guys?
I hate to break in on this but...could someone tell "me" what IS a General
Error 41 and what I should do if I ever get one? Isn't that what we were
talking about?
lol...I had to re-read the topic because I forgot the question with all this
other stuff flying around.
Can ya keep it kinda basic for people like us newer Mac users?
I work on a really tight schedule cranking out shows, and when something
goes wrong, "I" need fast and accurate information to fix the problem. Don't
get me wrong, I really do appreciate all the information about red lasers
and blue ones, and all the HD stuff too (some of the stuff you guys know
just blows me away sometimes), but this seems like a serious problem I might
encounter sometime soooo could anyone help me out?
(Ding)...Now back to our regularly scheduled night at the fights...
On 10/7/05 7:40 PM, in article sHD1f.27871$w76....@fe05.news.easynews.com,
"Dave" <blac...@aol.com> wrote:
> Jona Vark wrote:
>> "Richard Ragon" <bse...@hananho.com> wrote in message
>> news:9Cd1f.11478$6e1....@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
>>
>>> Jona Vark wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Smarty" <nob...@nobody.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:FJGdnQZC9JOx89ne...@adelphia.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> There is a discussion of this specific error message / topic on Apple's
>>>>> Support forum for Final Cut Pro Studio HD at:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?5...@464.zbkYaRurYFn.0@.68bb24b4
>>>>>
>>>>> FCP HD is a superb piece of software in my opinion and a very good
>>
>> reason
>>
>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> go out and buy a Macintosh exclusively for HDV editing and authoring.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sure.. except Premiere is the only app right now that actually DOES HDV
>>>> editing.
>>>
>>> Huh? At this point I've got to be thinking that your just pulling our
>>> leg.. You can't be this stupid? Can you? HDV support in Premiere is
>>> NOT native.\
>>
>>
>> Premiere is the only app that has no problems doing HDV. Using the Cineform
>> tech..
>> Read some trades.. read Post.. Read anything.
>
> I have Vegas, and it has no problems with HDV. Just bought my Sony HDV
> last week. Vegas works rock solid.
>
>
>>> Ding Dong.. Anybody home? No one owns any software on their computers.
>>> You lease it dummy. Don't you read the EULA? Oh.. forgot, you don't
>>> read so hot.
>>
>>
>> Whew.. Anyone else see a total disconnect with reality here? Poor thing..
>
Smarty
Early in this thread I posted a link to Apple's support forum where there
was some (unfortunately limited) discussion of this specific problem. If you
have trouble locating this reference, let me know and I will find it once
again and re-send it.
Smarty
"Steve Wills" <stev...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:BF718809.13042%stev...@insightbb.com...
Steve Wills
"Go to your AUTOSAVE VAULT and open the last saved version."
Thanks for the info...it may save my a$$ someday.
Oh, by the way, I just found out that if you accidentally move your library
folder...your in for a really bad time. It don't like that one bit.
Word to newer users...don't ever move that folder!
Thanks for the help guys.
I'm asking a new question (thread) so jump in if you can.
You guys are a wealth of help. Wayyyy too smart!
On 10/11/05 10:01 PM, in article brmdneoRCcU...@adelphia.com,