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Music Videos - VOB to DIVX/XVID/Mpeg2 ??? HOW

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Tricksta_

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Nov 12, 2005, 9:40:49 PM11/12/05
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Okie guys, I have searched all over the web and am getting very
frustrated at this point.

What I am doing is ripping chapters/editing out from Music Video DVD's
with DVD Shrink. In most cases the chapters are set in stone start to
finish, however there have been instances where I must set a start and
finish point and then pull the content off the dvd to a .vob file.

Here is my problem. When I try to compress this in TMPGENC I either get
no audio, or an error saying something is wrong with the audio stream
or if it does compress no audio.

I have tried WINAVI 7.1 and it produces low quality Xvid or Divx files,
with sound. I have yet to find a way for it to use the settings I
specify in the Codec.

I have also heard that DVD Shrink has an issue when you rip the clips
of not creating a proper compliant .VOB file.


Is there a tool(s) out there that anyone uses to rip out sections of a
DVD into a .VOB file, then convert it to a high quality divx/xvid/mpeg2
?


Thanks

Tricksta_

Ken Maltby

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Nov 13, 2005, 2:40:45 AM11/13/05
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"Tricksta_" <tri...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Why are you so insistent that you have .vob files?
The audio and video, that you are interested in, is inside the
DVD's .vob files, as video and audio streams. The video
is, for sure MPEG; the audio could be of several types
and there are probably several to choose from.

To "rip out sections of a DVD", I use www.VideoReDo.com
but, while it can output .vob, the .mpg file is more practical to
work with. With this or any other program you will want to
select the audio stream to keep/work with.

Once you have the .mpg clips, you might try AutoGK or the
newer Super c by Fever; to convert/encode to a variety of formats
including a pretty good AVC/H264. ( It can even use AAC with
that, if you use .MP4 instead of .AVI)

Luck;
Ken


Earnest Pimpledorf

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Nov 13, 2005, 5:02:13 AM11/13/05
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Thanks for the help. I am still a newbie, and your advice helped alot.

Tricksta_

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Nov 13, 2005, 8:26:21 PM11/13/05
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Well I rippped the .VOB's with VideoRedo, and well when I go to
compress it gives and error stating the file is invalid or something.
Blah. Waste of Money. I even ran AnyDVD in system tray to see if it was
a copy protection issue. NOT. When ya play back the VOB the audio is
loud hissing.

The only method I have found thus far to be able and rip a clean VOB is
DVD SHRINK, then I compress with AVI.NET (which does not seem to give
me much flex on options for xvid or divx compression)

Anyone else have suggestions?

Thanks

Ken Maltby

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Nov 13, 2005, 9:54:43 PM11/13/05
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"Tricksta_" <tri...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Ok, I get it now. You are being an annoying "Trickster", and
are not really working on a problem. Even if you had bought
VideoReDo, instead of used the trial period, what you describe
is not how it works.

If your error is when you are compressing the .mpg file that
VideoReDo made, then you should blame the compressing/
encoding program. You didn't try one of the ones I suggested
did you?


If the "Music Video DVDs" are encrypted, then you would
still need to run them through DVD Shrink, first before you do
any editing. In both DVD Shrink and in VideoReDo you had
the option of selecting the audio stream to use, what audio did
you choose?

Luck;
Ken


Tricksta_

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Nov 14, 2005, 12:12:44 AM11/14/05
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hehehe,

Good reply Ken. Sorry to be a pain, and I do appreciate your feedback.
Yes I am using the trial version of VideoRedo, and ripping a music dvd
I own with intent to turn it into an Xvid via one of your suggested
programs.

I possibly might have taken the wrong steps with this program.

I believe I was ripping the material from the DVD itself within V-Redo?
This is an encrypted Music DVD, that is for sure. So 2 questions -

1) Did I get what you said above right when you mentioned If it is an
protected/encrypted DVD then I will first have to rip it with DVD
Shrink, then load the files into V-Redo..and go from there?

2) Is there any guides you know related to this topic, and using
Video-REDO that you are aware of?

Thanks Again for your Feedback,

Tricksta_

Tricksta_

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Nov 14, 2005, 12:26:00 AM11/14/05
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Btw there is only 1 Stream - PGC something. It is the only one I have
to choose. Once again I only get static on playback of the .VOBs when I
rip this. Even if I use SHRINK (somehow Avi.net finds a way to correct
it once I compress, but that program is not a preference for me.

Ken Maltby

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Nov 14, 2005, 1:15:54 AM11/14/05
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"Tricksta_" <tri...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> hehehe,
>
> Good reply Ken. Sorry to be a pain, and I do appreciate your feedback.
> Yes I am using the trial version of VideoRedo, and ripping a music dvd
> I own with intent to turn it into an Xvid via one of your suggested
> programs.
>
> I possibly might have taken the wrong steps with this program.
>
> I believe I was ripping the material from the DVD itself within V-Redo?
> This is an encrypted Music DVD, that is for sure. So 2 questions -
>
It is usualy a good idea to work with the video files on the
hard drive, rather than a CD/DVD. Of course there are
some programs, like DVDShrink, that basiclly move them as part
of their normal processing.


> 1) Did I get what you said above right when you mentioned If it is an
> protected/encrypted DVD then I will first have to rip it with DVD
> Shrink, then load the files into V-Redo..and go from there?
>

Almost all editing programs require that the source media be
unencrypted, since you had mentioned that you have DVD Shrink
and that it will "Rip" that DVD, I would suggest you just quickly
rip it to a folder on your hard drive. It should have the regular .vobs,
.ifo and .bup files, not an image file. No recompression need be used.

> 2) Is there any guides you know related to this topic, and using
> Video-REDO that you are aware of?
>

There is a Help tab. But just load a .mpg and check out the
tools and features. For now, you want to be sure and use the
tools tab and the "Select Stream..." after you load your Music
Video .vob file from the folder DVDShrink made. Then you
should select an audio stream your encoder will be happy with.

One kind of setting you might want to consider first is the
Navigation settings in the VideoReDo Options. What I have is
the mouse wheel set to "Move next Frame" and the shifted arrow
keys to "Move next I-Frame" (the Shifted mouse wheel then
becomes "Move next I-Frame", also.)

You might find a guide at www.videohelp.com or
www.afterdawn.com www.doom9.org www.digitalfaq.com

Luck;
Ken

Ken Maltby

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Nov 14, 2005, 1:35:28 AM11/14/05
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"Tricksta_" <tri...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Make sure you are not using one of the menu .vob. Don't
do the VIDEO_TS.vob or the first VTS .vob if it is smaller
then the other .vob within that same VTS #.

Open the decrypted .vob with VideoReDo and click the
Tools tab then the "Select stream...", what does it say about
the audio? Then click the Tools tab again, then the "Show
Video Program Info", what does it say about the audio, there?

Luck;
Ken


Tricksta_

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Nov 17, 2005, 11:30:37 PM11/17/05
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Sorry for the late reply.

Okay, well I have been basing all off this off 1 type of Music Video
DVD. When I rip the chapters down for each video and play them inside
media player, nero , windvd..etc. These VOB files play fine. However
when I load them into VideoRedo (or AVi.Net for that matter) I get a
loud hissing sound during preview.

However I did check the audio stream as you had asked, and it is a
standard PCM 24kbit, 48000 khz stream. So I went ahead and selected the
stream and saved the .VOB as an MPEG 2. The filesize grew. I then went
and converted it with AGK .....compressed and HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS,
now I did the same MPEG 2 inside AVI.net, and HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

Now I take the VOB and load it directly into AGK, and HISSSSSSSSSSSSS.
I take the VOB and load it into Avi.NEt which uses Xvid or Divx codec,
along with AviSynth and well no hiss, and audio comes out fine (not in
preview mode, but after you compress).

Any light that can be shed on this mystery would really help me. I do
like AVI.net cause it is built for Stand Alone Player conversion..but
is very buggy on tweaking bitrate, and file size.


Thanks,

Tricksta_

Tricksta_

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Nov 18, 2005, 1:45:12 AM11/18/05
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Hmmmm,

I am thinking that 24 Bit LPCM, 48000 KHZ might be the issue here.

Neil Nadelman

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Nov 18, 2005, 1:37:09 PM11/18/05
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On 17 Nov 2005 22:45:12 -0800, "Tricksta_" <tri...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hmmmm,
>
>I am thinking that 24 Bit LPCM, 48000 KHZ might be the issue here.

Yeah, wouldn't he have to convert the soundtrack to 16 bit to
make it work properly with the auto-recoding utilities?

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Tricksta_

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Nov 19, 2005, 4:57:29 AM11/19/05
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Yeah,

I looked all over. Seems this 24 bit audio is gonna be a pain in the
rear end!!!!!!


Tricksta_

Tricksta_

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Nov 20, 2005, 7:27:10 AM11/20/05
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Well I guess this is the part where I say :


KEN SUCKS

You had all the answers man, and now I got ya in the corner and you are
...well ..... a dumbass without somehow being able to spit any bullshit
no more.


Thanks for NOTHING prick.

Alpha

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Nov 20, 2005, 6:10:53 PM11/20/05
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"Tricksta_" <tri...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Ken is one of the most valuable posters in these newsgroups (even if he and
I disagree on a particular program).

You, tricksta_, can join the myriad morons who garner attention to their
limitless arrogance and limited intellect.


Tricksta_

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Nov 20, 2005, 10:01:59 PM11/20/05
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I guess my sarcasm is not found funny by some. LOL.

Ken was a great help, if not for this problem for others down the line.


Tricksta_

Ken Maltby

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Nov 25, 2005, 1:53:38 AM11/25/05
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"Tricksta_" <tri...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I guess my sarcasm is not found funny by some. LOL.
>
> Ken was a great help, if not for this problem for others down the line.
>
>
> Tricksta_
>

I just noticed that there was some activity since I last checked
on this thread on the 16th, two days after my previous post. If I am
working someone's problem and I've asked for some information, but
there is no response for a couple of days; I assume the poster has lost
interest.

If I "had all the answers" to the questions I asked on the 13th about
what audio stream you had selected, perhaps I could have helped you.
But you didn't provide that information till the 17th. By that time I
wasn't
watching this thread, anymore.

Luck;
Ken


Tricksta_

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Nov 25, 2005, 4:49:46 AM11/25/05
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No Harm, No Foul Ken,

Thanks for your previous tips. One thing I did find is VideoREDO is a
nice software. I still have not figured out this LPCM, 24 bit, 48000
deal (Besides dumping it into VDUB-MPEG and converting to avi/raw and
then re-compressing it back via TMPGENC ...however that is fine for
now, just a few extra steps and some extra time.

Thanks again, and Sorry if you took my Sarcasm wrong. Text cannot
express body language/facial expressions, tone of voice.


Tricksta_

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