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irons...@hotmail.com

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Sep 6, 2006, 12:22:27 PM9/6/06
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I'm a Jew currently residing in Niagara Falls, Ontario. Between
Septmeber 20th, 2005 and July 18, 2006 I was employed at the Hilton
Hotel as a houseman, under Italian ownership. Although I didn't hear
any direct anti-Semitic slants I was shunned by most of my co-workers,
and my once even 3 co-workers hid my work cart and were only told by my
employer, Julie Antonio, not to do it again. Not even written up.
(Melanie Vujcic, Sarah Ecker and Vicki Gardner).

My supervisors didn't like me, and most of the times would talk down to
me and when I approached my boss to rectify the situation, I was
dismissed, that "I was paranoid", and that pattern of behavior repeated
itself again afterwards. This made me upset and I swore in frustration,
which prompted me to be written up by my boss, Julie.

I used to do my job better than anybody else, but when I was rewarded
the "Employee of the Month" award for January 2006 month, many people
got extremely jealous at me for that, and my co-worker at the time,
Lisa Wilson, told the other housepeople that "Why him, he's nothing but
a bum" and other slurs.

I did the garbage run 10 times a day at times, but when I was too busy
because I was with a guest, the supervisors would go on the
walkie-talkie "John, you should have done your garbage run 20 minutes
ago", but other people got the slack for that.

I am pretty sure that I was targetted primarily because I was a Jew:
Several times the night shift guy, Wayne Robbins, would brag to me that
he didn't do anything at night after 2 am, but drink and sleep, and
when me and other people went to Julie Antonio about it, we were
dismissed. Same thing applies to another employee, Asdrubal Quesada,
who being Hispanic (Cuban) and homosexual got special privileges - 3
times the inspection caught him not changing the soiled linen, but he
was never written up by Julie Antonio.

When I was at the North Tower, Marco, who was the houseman in charge of
that tower, and other people would not change the newspapers' recycle
bins for a month. I brought it down, full of newspapers dating a month
back, and showed it to Julie. She yelled at me "don't bother me", and
went home at 11:00 because it was a Sunday. Then I proceeded to show it
to her assistant Shelly Culp, who dismissed me kindly about it. The
problem wasn't solved, and I had to do something that other people
didn't do. - pretty much doing their job.

I have never recieved a bravo-gram when I overdid myself, but other
people received it for minor things. Julie was attempting to prove that
I wasn't doing my job, but I did stuff that other people would slack on
- such as dusting the high legers.

Nobody ever called me anything relating to my Jewish heritage, but one
day at the smoke pit, I overheard one room attendant, Danny Parisi,
talking about the religious Orthodox Jews in an unfavorable light.(I'm
a cultural Jew, a non-praciticing one). He said "I will never
understand this religion, the can't turn on the light on Saturday, but
they can ride the elevator". When the Israeli-Lebanese conflict was
going on in July I was teased by some co-workers like "have you already
caught Bin Laden?", or some jests like "you come from a country that
has some problems - we need to be careful with you". I don't think it
was meant more than a joke, but one day, during the peak of the
Israeli-Lebanese war I explained my friend Steve the Bellman why Israel
was right to defend itself, when one cook, Larry McKinnon butted in
saying "The whole Middle East should go down in flame " - including
Israel - "All they do over there is fight". I didn't say the same thing
about Northern Ireland!

On July 15th, 2006, I was sitting at the table and a Native Indian guy,
Wayne Burnham was giving me the attitude after joining my table. All I
did was ask him how he was. I then called him a "&&&thead" , and he
threw something at me. Not wanting to be violent, I came after him and
we started arguing. He came out, in front of the cameras and pushed me.
I was hauled by Andrea, one of the supervisors into the office, and she
talked down to me, while Wayne continued to work there. I was later
informed that he was waiting for me outside the building but nobody
ever did anything regarding it. On July 18th, 2006, I was dismissed
while Wayne was merely written up.

I then received a very harsh dismissal letter from Julie Antonio,
stating that should I ever again set food at the Hilton, I am comitting
a trespassing and should be prosecuted and put in jail.

I would like you to advise me what I can do and what am the
resources/opportunities open to me to fight this discriminiatory and
inhuman treatment. I'm so sorry that despite Canada's international
reputation as a tolerant country I was discriminated due to religious
bias, blatantly againt the Charter of Rights.

regards,

John

Dave Frightens Me

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Sep 6, 2006, 5:57:12 PM9/6/06
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On 6 Sep 2006 09:22:27 -0700, irons...@hotmail.com wrote:

>I'm a Jew

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_uauthors=ironsjack69%40hotmail.com

...and a pro!

Now fuck off back to Norway where all the good trolls live.
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JohnH

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Sep 6, 2006, 6:20:48 PM9/6/06
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So, SPAMMING 5 newsgroups annoying others will endear you to those on the
newsgroups,
no matter what color, race, religion etc you are or belong to....I DONT
THINK SO!

It looks like you have one BIG CHIP (oops! LOG) on your shoulder....grow
up!!
You didnt perhaps get a swelled head after receiving the employee of the
month perchance?
John H
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serwad

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Sep 6, 2006, 7:39:07 PM9/6/06
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<irons...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm a Jew currently residing in Niagara Falls, Ontario. Between
> Septmeber 20th, 2005 and July 18, 2006 I was employed at the Hilton
> Hotel as a houseman, under Italian ownership. Although I didn't hear
> any direct anti-Semitic slants

CRY ME A RIVER, ARSEHOLE! HAVE YOU EVER CONSIDERED THE LITTLE FACT THAT
NEITHER YOU NOR 90% OF JEWS ARE SEMITES. SO HOW CAN ANYBODY BE "ANTI
SEMITIC" TOWARDS YOU IF YOU ARE NOT A SEMITE?


EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)

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Sep 6, 2006, 7:44:27 PM9/6/06
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irons...@hotmail.com wrote:


> My supervisors didn't like me, and most of the times would talk down to
> me and when I approached my boss to rectify the situation, I was
> dismissed, that "I was paranoid",

That sounds about right! Did it ever occur to you the
expressions of dislike might have nothing to do with your
religion, and a great deal to do with your personality? I
can't speak for Italian ownership in Italy, but I seriously
doubt whether a Hilton hotel in New York ("Italian
ownership" or not) would be guilty of anti-Semitism! (Yes I
know you said "Niagara Falls, Ontario", but that's just
across the border form Niagara Falls, NY.)

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serwad

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Sep 6, 2006, 9:45:20 PM9/6/06
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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evg...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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They are all crazy! I asked a guy the other day: "Are you a Jew?" and he
went balistic, called me an antisemite. I do not know why. If someone asks
me if I am a muslim, I will answer smiling that I am!


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Runge

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Sep 7, 2006, 1:26:44 AM9/7/06
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Duh
OT crossposting by the OT specialist of the USA

"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evg...@earthlink.net> a écrit dans le
message de news: ednmg...@news2.newsguy.com...

Ian F.

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Sep 7, 2006, 3:23:42 AM9/7/06
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"serwad" <ser...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> They are all crazy!

All we Jews are crazy? You've met all of us, have you? Dickhead.

Ian


irons...@hotmail.com

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Sep 7, 2006, 9:34:12 AM9/7/06
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Why the hell do you thing I'm annoying anybody by posting a TRUE story?
You don;t wanna read it - fuck off, I'm exercising my constitutional
right to publish. And I'm sure there are people out there who read it
AND AGREE WITH ME. BTW, I'M NOT SPAMMING YOU ASSHOLE. SPAM IS
PUBLISHING A COMMERCIAL MATERIAL.

Marie-Aude

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Sep 7, 2006, 10:02:31 AM9/7/06
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Le 7 Sep 2006 06:34:12 -0700, irons...@hotmail.com a écrit :

> Why the hell do you thing I'm annoying anybody by posting a TRUE story?
> You don;t wanna read it - fuck off, I'm exercising my constitutional
> right to publish. And I'm sure there are people out there who read it
> AND AGREE WITH ME. BTW, I'M NOT SPAMMING YOU ASSHOLE. SPAM IS
> PUBLISHING A COMMERCIAL MATERIAL.

Spam is sending unwanted material, commercial or not.
Special rules apply on usenet, and for example, you are not supposed to
send the same message to 5 different groups without indicating in which one
you want the discussion to continue, to avoid to have, in your case 5
parallel and incomplete discussions.

You are also supposed to remain courteous, and not starting to tell people
words as soon as they contradict you 'you're answer was extremely rude in
comparisaon to what John H wrote).

Additionnally, by publishing on the internet real names of people and
accusing them as you did, and accusing a hotel for antisemitism when
nothing in what you describe shows any hint of antisemitism (a question on
a religion and an assesment on an area of the world are NOT antisemtism),
you could even be sued. That happens seldom, but that happens.

--
Marie-Aude
www.trassagere.com
www.oasisdemezgarne.com
www.ayour.org

irons...@hotmail.com

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Sep 7, 2006, 10:32:12 AM9/7/06
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OK, I applogize to John H for the language. But what I did was
CROSSPOSTING, which is diffrerent than SPAM. I migh even be TROLLING.
SPAM is totally different.

Anyway, I was upset with the way he judged me from my story to be
pissing off other people, or his siding with the hotel without even
knowing me. While I was working there, people were talking about me
behind my back and spreading insidious slanders.

Nobody should sympathize with what I said but if you don't want to,
just don't read. Anything he said were directly responding to what I
had originally posted.

And you've noticed how people responding to my story called me names,
mostly "stupid", "paranoid" or "asshole" without even knowing me.
That's slander too you know.

And last if not least, how come so many people here talk AT me instead
of talking TO/WITH me?

Marie-Aude

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Sep 7, 2006, 10:57:08 AM9/7/06
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Le 7 Sep 2006 07:32:12 -0700, irons...@hotmail.com a écrit :

> OK, I applogize to John H for the language. But what I did was
> CROSSPOSTING, which is diffrerent than SPAM. I migh even be TROLLING.
> SPAM is totally different.

Methink crosspoting is usually considered as a sort of spam, but that's OT
here.

> Nobody should sympathize with what I said but if you don't want to,
> just don't read. Anything he said were directly responding to what I
> had originally posted.

1. I can't know if I don't want to before I read
2. You're on a group, and everyone can say what he wants, as you can, as
long as they respect netiquette. Paranoid is inside the limits...

> And you've noticed how people responding to my story called me names,
> mostly "stupid", "paranoid" or "asshole" without even knowing me.
> That's slander too you know.

They know what you display of yourself in your posts.

Bert Hyman

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Sep 7, 2006, 11:02:32 AM9/7/06
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m...@myprivacy.net (Marie-Aude) wrote in
news:1gtd8t06z8l7m$.uij0efvd...@40tude.net:

> Methink crosspoting is usually considered as a sort of spam, but
> that's OT here.

Crossposting is preferred to posting the same message individually to
several newsgroups.

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | be...@iphouse.com

EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)

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Sep 7, 2006, 1:17:47 PM9/7/06
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irons...@hotmail.com wrote:

> Why the hell do you thing I'm annoying anybody by posting a TRUE story?
> You don;t wanna read it - fuck off, I'm exercising my constitutional
> right to publish. And I'm sure there are people out there who read it
> AND AGREE WITH ME. BTW, I'M NOT SPAMMING YOU ASSHOLE. SPAM IS
> PUBLISHING A COMMERCIAL MATERIAL.


I rest my case! ("AntiSemitism" has nothing to do with it -
with a personality like that, it's a wonder the guy is still
alive!)

Dave Smith

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Sep 7, 2006, 3:55:21 PM9/7/06
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irons...@hotmail.com wrote:

> Why the hell do you thing I'm annoying anybody by posting a TRUE story?
> You don;t wanna read it - fuck off, I'm exercising my constitutional
> right to publish. And I'm sure there are people out there who read it
> AND AGREE WITH ME. BTW, I'M NOT SPAMMING YOU ASSHOLE. SPAM IS
> PUBLISHING A COMMERCIAL MATERIAL.

Spam does not have to be commercial. It is spam when it is unwanted crap cross
posted to numerous groups like you whining. Either your situation is a direct
result of your being a whining asshole or you are trolling for anti Semites.
Either way, you look like a fool.


Ian F.

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Sep 8, 2006, 8:49:44 AM9/8/06
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"Marie-Aude" <m...@myprivacy.net> wrote in message
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> Special rules apply on usenet,

He's using Google Gropes. The people who use it don't realise that this is
Usenet - they think GG is the actual medium, rather than just a means of
accessing it. That accounts for why, lately, so many knobheads have been
appearing here and on other froups.

Ian


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mrlepr...@hotmail.com

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Sep 8, 2006, 4:09:04 PM9/8/06
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I have lived in New york for many years. My belief is that all should
have a chance to work and have a shot to succeed.

Except for songbirds. Snitches. Informers. (the everybody is at fault
except you thing).

You are a bit protected by the cloak of the internet but I assure you
that whoever knows you will never hire you. You can then again write
"War and Peace" that your problematic life situation is because of your
over 5000 year faith.

Mazel tov

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