Paris question
Jim Malone
I'm traveling to Ukraine in May for a training session. I'm hoping to
connect home through Paris and stay a couple of days (that's all I
have before work beckons).
I'm looking for suggestions on what to do for those 36 hours. I've
never been. Interests include art, music, dining (am in the right city
or what?). I speak a little French. Dates are May 19-21, I think.
Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
e-mail jma...@cnc.com
terri walters
Go to the Louvre, of course. If you love Impressionism, the Musee
d'Orsay can't be missed. Likewise if you love modern art, you will want
to visit the Pompidou Center. Not sure of your musical tastes, but some
churches have classical concerts, and jazz clubs abound. Stroll through
the beautiful Jardin des Tuileries, stop at small shops for bread and
wonderful pastries and tarts. Get a decent guide book and familiarize
yourself with Paris now, so that you will have an idea of where to find
the places you will want to visit. You will be in Paris at a beautiful
time of year - hope you enjoy your trip.
--
__ terri
H. Milton Peek
Jim Malone (jma...@communitynews.com) wrote:
: I'm traveling to Ukraine in May for a training session. I'm hoping to
: connect home through Paris and stay a couple of days (that's all I
: have before work beckons).
: I'm looking for suggestions on what to do for those 36 hours. I've
: never been. Interests include art, music, dining (am in the right city
: or what?). I speak a little French. Dates are May 19-21, I think.
: Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
: e-mail jma...@cnc.com
--
just go to the Louvre - for a serious art appreciator, it will easily
take all the extra time you can provide. If it takes you only a few
hours, then you aren't really a serious art appreciator.
There are other superb museums, the equals of which do not exist elsewhere.
Milton Pee4k
Barb Douglas
Jim Malone wrote:
>
> I'm traveling to Ukraine in May for a training session. I'm hoping to
> connect home through Paris and stay a couple of days (that's all I
> have before work beckons).
> I'm looking for suggestions on what to do for those 36 hours. I've
> never been. Interests include art, music, dining (am in the right city
> or what?). I speak a little French. Dates are May 19-21, I think.
> Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
> e-mail jma...@cnc.com
spend a day at churches. see Notre Dam,and Ste Chappele in the old part
of the city, or take the metro to Sacre Coure, in Mountmarte. Or spend
a day visiting the Rodin gallery, Picasso, and Orsay. (hope I spelled
that right)
Peter H. Riley
> Jim Malone wrote:
> >
> > I'm traveling to Ukraine in May for a training session. I'm hoping to
> > connect home through Paris and stay a couple of days (that's all I
> > have before work beckons).
> > I'm looking for suggestions on what to do for those 36 hours. I've
> > never been. Interests include art, music, dining (am in the right city
> > or what?). I speak a little French. Dates are May 19-21, I think.
> > Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
> > e-mail jma...@cnc.com
>
> Go to the Louvre, of course. If you love Impressionism, the Musee
> d'Orsay can't be missed. Likewise if you love modern art, you will want
> to visit the Pompidou Center. Not sure of your musical tastes, but some
> churches have classical concerts, and jazz clubs abound. Stroll through
> the beautiful Jardin des Tuileries, stop at small shops for bread and
> wonderful pastries and tarts. Get a decent guide book and familiarize
> yourself with Paris now, so that you will have an idea of where to find
> the places you will want to visit. You will be in Paris at a beautiful
> time of year - hope you enjoy your trip.
> --
> __ terri
Two years ago my son took us through a 14 hour death march across Paris. I
still remember it as some of the best sightseeing I've done there. After a
breakfast at the take out window of a bakery we went to St Chappelle, a
beautiful little chapel in the Old Fortress on l'Isle de Cite which housed
Marie Antionnette before her execution. I believe it's now the Palace of
Justice. It was the royal chapel before the ruling families built the
Louvre as their official residence and has more stained glass than I've
seen anywhere. Notre Dame next; toured the treasury inside, and climbed to
the top (No Hunchback in residence) for a great view both of Paris and of
the gargoyles. Next we crossed the river to the left bank and in a park
right across the bridge is the oldest church in Paris, St. Julien de Pres,
small and exquisite. Several blocks to the west we went to the Cluny
museum of medieval art, full of some wonderful treasures, and built into a
building which had originally been Roman Baths (yeah, original).
Deeper into the depths of the Left Bank we hiked until we found the church
of St. Germain de Pres (sp?) a dark old building which still evidences all
the vitality of a working parish church.
Before supper we then Metro'd to Montmartre and toured the Basillica of
Sacre Coeur (the big domed church overlooking the city to the north),
wandered around Montmartre enjoying the "La Boheme" artsiness of the area,
and walked down the hill to the most enjoyable and unique fondue
restaurant I've yet encountered. The two tables run the entire depth of
the restaurant, and those sitting next to the wall (which you are expected
to sign in marker) climb over the table. Dinner includes an aparitif, a
baby bottle of wine (complete w/ nipple) a salad, fondue: Meat or cheese,
and a light desert. You can cut the smoke with a knife and the
conversation ditto, but it was fun and the food was very good. I'can't
remember the name, but someone in the area should certainly be able to
point you in the right direction- it's pretty unique.
Coming out of dinner I asked my son if we could go to bed yet, since we
were still suffering from jet lag, but no- one more long subway ride and
climb to the top of the Eiffel Tower. Now here's a view!
After the tower we walked a few blocks to check out a hotel we hadn't
chosen to stay at but wanted to see anyhow, and found a metro - !!which
had closed at 10:30!! so to complete our adventure we walked 2 miles
through the beautiful city of lights, back to our hotel near the Place de
Concord. We went to bed that night exhausted but very, very happy.
Suggestion for lunch - across the bridge behind the Cathedral of Notre
Dame at 61 re St. Louis-en-l'Isle: AUX ANYSETIEERS DU ROY, incredibly good
food and I think we spent about $40 for lunch for three, including a half
of very good wine.
Pete
--
Pete and Marty Riley * Life is not worth it unless
New Oxford PA - USA * your are doing something good
pri...@sun-link.com * for someone else. ;-)
S. Vuillard
Barb Douglas <B-Do...@worldnet.att.net> wrote (écrivait) :
> see Notre Dam,and Ste Chappele in the old part
> of the city, or take the metro to Sacre Coure, in Mountmarte. Or spend
> a day visiting the Rodin gallery, Picasso, and Orsay. (hope I spelled
> that right)
Not very far ! ;-)
Notre-Dame
Sainte Chapelle
Sacre-Coeur
Montmartre
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Barb Douglas
J. Holman wrote:
>
> One of my very favorite places is Ste Chappelle- it is near Notre Dame,
> much less popular (fewer people), but quite magical. From there you are
> not too far from the St. Germain des Pres area which, albeit a tourist
> draw, is popular for a reason- it is really fun just to wander through the
> area, sip un breve at the cafes, watch the street performers, and sample
> the fresh fruits from the markets. Also, the Musee D'Orsay is phenomenal-
> I might recemmend it over the Louvre, believe it or not. And if you have
> the time, one of the most exquisite museums I have ever seen is the Rodin
> museum- moving!
>
> If you haven't planned anything yet, you might try doing some research on
> the Web. There is a site called Beatrice's Web Guide which seems to have
> a good selection of travel sites ranging from currency converters to
> airfare bargains, to trip planning and mapping sites. (It is at
> http://www.bguide.com) Hope that helps!
I agree with all of the above, but you do have to go to the Louve, even
if just to see the Mona Lisa. If you don't go, you'll regret that you
were so close yet didn't see it.
Philip & Karen Selwyn
Barb Douglas wrote:
>
> I agree with all of the above, but you do have to go to the Louve, even
> if just to see the Mona Lisa. If you don't go, you'll regret that you
> were so close yet didn't see it.
The Mona Lisa is the last reason to go to the Louvre!
The canvas is behind thick bullet-proof glass which largely obscures
details. When the inevitable tourist thinks he/she can take a picture
through the glass and their flash goes off, the lighting on the painting
cuts off so the painting is in darkness for several seconds. The room
which houses the painting is filled with people at all times. You stand
in the back row and move up slowly as the front row peels off after
having had their turn looking at the painting. It's a dreadful
experience!
If you must collect experiences, then I guess you'll have to slog it out
in front of the Mona Lisa. However, you'll be much better off looking at
any other painting or sculpture in any of the fabulous museums in Paris
where you can have direct, personal, and meaningful interaction with the
work of art.
Karen Selwyn
J. Holman
Sarah Gushee
Barb Douglas wrote:
> if just to see the Mona Lisa. If you don't go, you'll regret that you
> were so close yet didn't see it.
I agree with these suggestions...wonder if anyone else besides me has
ever been to the Musee Marmottan? If you don't like Impressionism, it's
not for you--I belive it's the largest single collection of Monets, and
it's pretty impressive. The museum itself is one of the best-designed I
have been in anywhere, and nice, small & manageable. Recommended!
Sarah Gushee
Philip & Karen Selwyn wrote:
>
> Barb Douglas wrote:
> >
>
> > I agree with all of the above, but you do have to go to the Louve, even
> > if just to see the Mona Lisa. If you don't go, you'll regret that you
> > were so close yet didn't see it.
>
>
> The canvas is behind thick bullet-proof glass which largely obscures
> details. When the inevitable tourist thinks he/she can take a picture
> through the glass and their flash goes off, the lighting on the painting
> cuts off so the painting is in darkness for several seconds. The room
> which houses the painting is filled with people at all times. You stand
> in the back row and move up slowly as the front row peels off after
> having had their turn looking at the painting. It's a dreadful
> experience!
>
> If you must collect experiences, then I guess you'll have to slog it out
> in front of the Mona Lisa. However, you'll be much better off looking at
> any other painting or sculpture in any of the fabulous museums in Paris
> where you can have direct, personal, and meaningful interaction with the
> work of art.
>
> Karen Selwyn
Actually, yes, I should amend my previous post saying the other
suggestions were all good. I agree about the Mona Lisa. A waste of
time! Despite signs in half a dozen languages & pictures, an awful lot
of people still think their flash picture won't matter...Aggravating.
hf...@bc.sympatico.ca
Philip & Karen Selwyn wrote:
>
> Barb Douglas wrote:
> >
>
> > I agree with all of the above, but you do have to go to the Louve, even
> > if just to see the Mona Lisa. If you don't go, you'll regret that you
> > were so close yet didn't see it.
>
> The Mona Lisa is the last reason to go to the Louvre!
>
> The canvas is behind thick bullet-proof glass which largely obscures
> details. When the inevitable tourist thinks he/she can take a picture
> through the glass and their flash goes off, the lighting on the painting
> cuts off so the painting is in darkness for several seconds. The room
> which houses the painting is filled with people at all times. You stand
> in the back row and move up slowly as the front row peels off after
> having had their turn looking at the painting. It's a dreadful
> experience!
>
> If you must collect experiences, then I guess you'll have to slog it out
> in front of the Mona Lisa. However, you'll be much better off looking at
> any other painting or sculpture in any of the fabulous museums in Paris
> where you can have direct, personal, and meaningful interaction with the
> work of art.
>
> Karen Selwyn
I have to agree about the Mona Lisa. The first time I saw it - it was
guarded, but not behind the glass and we still have to line up.
The next time I went to the Louvre, I took my husband. We planned on
seeing her again as well as many other areas. My husband was very
disappointed he couldn't stand and just enjoy - he did enjoy the other
paintings very much in the style that Karen described.
Heather Bos
Pilgrim
In article <334AD2...@worldnet.att.net>, Barb Douglas
<B-Do...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> J. Holman wrote:
> >
> > One of my very favorite places is Ste Chappelle- it is near Notre Dame,
> > much less popular (fewer people), but quite magical. From there you are
> > not too far from the St. Germain des Pres area which, albeit a tourist
> > draw, is popular for a reason- it is really fun just to wander through the
> > area, sip un breve at the cafes, watch the street performers, and sample
> > the fresh fruits from the markets. Also, the Musee D'Orsay is phenomenal-
> > I might recemmend it over the Louvre, believe it or not. And if you have
> > the time, one of the most exquisite museums I have ever seen is the Rodin
> > museum- moving!
> >
> Barb Douglas replies;
> I agree with all of the above, but you do have to go to the Louve, even
> if just to see the Mona Lisa. If you don't go, you'll regret that you
> were so close yet didn't see it.
Realizing that I will now be branded a barbarian, we have visited Paris
six times, our hotel looks across the river directly at the Louvre, we
have visited and in some cases revisited the D'Orsay, l'Orangerie, the
Grande Palais, the Marmatton, the Picasso, the Pompidou, and even the
small lock museum in the Marais...but I have yet to walk into the Louvre.
When it comes up in conversation and I don't feel like defending my
choice, I just look wistful and say, "Wonderful, simply wonderful!" I
save my time for my favorites, the D'Orsay and Ste Chappelle.
I would recommend going to the library and perusing museum collection
books, then target those museums that contain the stuff you are drawn to.
If you really don't get a thrill out of any of them, don't feel like you
are shirking if you just walk the streets! Paris has little to offer that
is more wonderful than the sense of joy one gets just being there and
being temporarily a part of it all.
Whatever you see, enjoy!
Pilgrim
Carl Socolow
> > > if just to see the Mona Lisa. If you don't go, you'll regret that you
> > > were so close yet didn't see it.
> >
> >
> > The canvas is behind thick bullet-proof glass which largely obscures
> > details.
SNIP
> > If you must collect experiences, then I guess you'll have to slog it out
> > in front of the Mona Lisa. However, you'll be much better off looking at
> > any other painting or sculpture in any of the fabulous museums in Paris
> > where you can have direct, personal, and meaningful interaction with the
> > work of art.
> >
> > Karen Selwyn
>
> I have to agree about the Mona Lisa. The first time I saw it - it was
> guarded, but not behind the glass and we still have to line up.
> The next time I went to the Louvre, I took my husband. We planned on
> seeing her again as well as many other areas. My husband was very
> disappointed he couldn't stand and just enjoy - he did enjoy the other
> paintings very much in the style that Karen described.
>
> Heather Bos
And I would add that the other Leonardos are equally if not more
exciting than the Mona Lisa and much more visible. Do not forget the
Botticelli frescoes just off the landing from the Samothrace. And Venus
de Milo is accessible as are Michaelangelo's slave sculptures which are
breathtaking to see them emerge from stone. So much to see... so little
time.
Carl S.
p.s. don't forget the Medici Gallery with the 24 Pieter Paul Rubens
depicting the life of Henry IV's perfidious bride.
wal...@dnvn.com
> >
> > J. Holman wrote:
> > >
> > > One of my very favorite places is Ste Chappelle- it is near Notre Dame,
> > > much less popular (fewer people), but quite magical. From there you are
> > > not too far from the St. Germain des Pres area which, albeit a tourist
> > > draw, is popular for a reason- it is really fun just to wander through the
> > > area, sip un breve at the cafes, watch the street performers, and sample
> > > the fresh fruits from the markets. Also, the Musee D'Orsay is phenomenal-
> > > I might recemmend it over the Louvre, believe it or not. And if you have
> > > the time, one of the most exquisite museums I have ever seen is the Rodin
> > > museum- moving!
> > >
The best way to see Ste Chappelle is to buy a ticket for their chamber
music concerts. That way you get to see the church and sit in that
stained glassed beauty as the sun goes down listening to Bach or
whatever for the price of the concert ticket alone. It is a lovely setting
for music.
The D'Orsay is also wonderful. Small collection of impressionists which
makes them all the more exquisite [and some of the worst trash every hung
in a museum on the first floor -- great place for a laugh] See in particular
Socrates and his Pupils and the lovely big eyed shepherdess in the
painting next to it.
k
wal...@dnvn.com
In article <334C0F...@mail.microserve.net>, Carl Socolow
<csoc...@mail.microserve.net> wrote:
There are some wonderful things in the Louvre -- many of them noted above.
Just because the discus thrower, the scribe from Egypt, Venus de Milo and
the winged victory are famous, doesn't make them any less thrilling to see.
Mona Lisa is mostly a giggle -- as you watch 50 people crowd around holding
flash cameras above their heads and running video cameras.
I always wnder about the people I see strolling through galleries with
a video camera planted in their eye panning the walls. Do these people
ever have any actual experiences or only hand held video nightmares of
experiences?
k
Peter H. Riley
In article <01a8fb68$a165ebe0$5460fccc@nicole>, "Frenchy"
<fre...@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>
> If you *must* take a pic of the ML, do it slightly from the side...you will
> still get a picture of the flash, but you'll get most of the portrait as
> well.
>
> You're not supposed to take pics in the Louvre but naturally that didn't
> stop anyone...for me the most memorable work of art there was the Venus de
> Milo.
>
> Frenchy
> (who admits she also took pics in Versaille when the guards who said, "Pas
> photos, s'il vous plait!" weren't looking...just like everyone else...;)
> --
I agree with you that ML is overrated, but if I could spend some time in
front of it alone, I might feel different. When It came to the US for the
Worlds Fair in NYC it looked much more impressive.
Regarding shooting in museums (cameras! We only shoot guns in public
places in the civilized US of A) most museums and I seem to remember the
Louvre was among them, forbid "flash" and tripods. I got some really great
shots in the louvre with no reflections using 1000 ASA film. To shoot at
slow speed in low light you can go as low as 1/15th of a second if you're
really steady and lean against something.
David Gascon
Sarah Gushee wrote:
> (snip)
>
> I agree with these suggestions...wonder if anyone else besides me has
> ever been to the Musee Marmottan? If you don't like Impressionism, it's
> not for you--I belive it's the largest single collection of Monets, and
> it's pretty impressive. The museum itself is one of the best-designed I
> have been in anywhere, and nice, small & manageable. Recommended!
Yes! Beautiful museum! particularly the room with the nympheas. The
wealthy residential arrondissement where it's located was also somewhat
interesting, in its contrast with more familiar areas of the city.
--
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Sudden in a shaft of sunlight
Even while the dust moves
There rises the hidden laughter
Of children in the foliage
Quick now, here, now, always --
Ridiculous the sad waste time
Stretching before and after.
T.S. Eliot
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Robert Buxbaum
>I always wnder about the people I see strolling through galleries with
>a video camera planted in their eye panning the walls. Do these people
>ever have any actual experiences or only hand held video nightmares of
>experiences?
>
No, but these people come back, watch their videos, sit back and say
"that's exactly how I remember it." ;-) The rest of us are always
disappointed when we see movies and pictures of places we visited.
--
<http://www.bway.net/~bux/>
Food, wine, and travel in France and New York City
revised 4 March 1997 * Basque Coast report revised and completed
BCTandT
Jim,
My favorite museum in Paris is the Rodin Museum. "The Kiss" on the first
floor is wonderful, I have a great shot of it, taken in the early morning,
winter light, hanging above my desk. If you go, be sure to see the
"Bergers of Calais" in the garden, a must see. A quick note of the
history of the piece, these men were city officals, and were going to give
their lives in exchange for saving the city. The sculpture depicts the
agony on each man's face, the dread with which they were forcing their
feet to move. At the last minute, the King's pregnant wife intervened,
and the men were spared. For the life of me, I can't remember the King,
someone else might have more facts. It is a must see work of art. (In my
opinion!) Enjoy! And don't forget to save time to sit in a cafe, and
have a cup of coffee! My first time in Paris, I only had a day, too, it's
amazing how much ground you can cover, Paris has a great metro system.
And once you've been, you'll be back!
Beth
B.C. Travel & Tours
www.bctravelinc.com
cardenas patricia a
I had the Mona Lisa practically to myself when I visited the Louvre on
the evening they're open late. There were absolutely no crowds and parts
of the museum even seemed deserted. The ML is definitely worth seeing.
LAURIEC
Re: the Musee D'Orsay
A friend mentioned that there is always a long line and it may be possible
to get tickets ahead of time. Has anyone had to wait in kine and how long
was the wait?
Thanks - Laurie
will be in Paris a two weeks
Maria Martin
*** We've been there 2x during daylight hours and didn't realize
what we were missing until we saw a TV special on the architecture
of I.M. Pei. We said, "Wow, we've got to go back and see it at
night". The pyramid, all lit up, must be quite a sight!
--Maria
Barb Douglas
cardenas patricia a wrote:
>
> I had the Mona Lisa practically to myself when I visited the Louvre on
> the evening they're open late. There were absolutely no crowds and parts
> of the museum even seemed deserted. The ML is definitely worth seeing.
I'm glad someone else out there agrees the ML is worth seeing, even if
it is behind glass. Thanks
Gregory Monahan
Sarah Gushee (slg...@garnet.acns.fsu.edu) wrote:
: I agree with these suggestions...wonder if anyone else besides me has
: ever been to the Musee Marmottan? If you don't like Impressionism, it's
: not for you--I belive it's the largest single collection of Monets, and
: it's pretty impressive. The museum itself is one of the best-designed I
: have been in anywhere, and nice, small & manageable. Recommended!
Absolutely. The Marmottan is probably one of THE best-kept secrets in
Paris. Its standard collection is, well, standard, but the Monets in
their special room are to die for. It's a private museum, but very
accessible. I spent over two hours just with the Monets. Sigh.
Greg
wal...@dnvn.com
In article <5j3in3$c...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>,
ap...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (John Gillies) wrote:
> Buy the postcard and spent your time in a less crowded and more
> contemporary gallery with fewer examples of Napoleonic plunder.
>
Well if we are going to get all snippy about 'plunder' that lets out
much of the great art of Europe. And please avoid ST. Marks in
Venice altogether. I once spent a couple of hours at the Guggenheim
collection in Venice -- spectacular collection of 'contemporary' art.
There wasn't a Pollock, Picaso, Motherwell, or Tobey etc etc that I
wanted to spend 15 minutes in front of -- There are several spots in the
Uffizi, Louvre, D'Orsay, etc etc etc that compel that sort of attention.
Those plunderers had remarkably good taste -- which I can't say for a
large number of the collectors of 'contemporary' art.
Robert Buxbaum
>In article <5j3in3$c...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>,
>ap...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (John Gillies) wrote:
>
>> Buy the postcard and spent your time in a less crowded and more
>> contemporary gallery with fewer examples of Napoleonic plunder.
>>
>
>
>Well if we are going to get all snippy about 'plunder' that lets out
> much of the great art of Europe. And please avoid ST. Marks in
>Venice altogether.
I once spent some time in a room lined arther sloppily lined with draped
fabric, in a French chateau, west of Lyon. I was with a group of visitors
and the local guide, who spent much of his time pointedly explaining that
the wood panelling was now installed in the Cloisters museum in NYC. Need
I say that he keep looking at us each time he mentioned the current
location of what he well believed should have remained in the room. While
the chateau itself was in great disrepair and had been in danger of being
torn down several times in it's life and that the purchase of the
panelling by some American Millionaire for his own use may have been all
that saved it, I couldn't help agreeing with him.
>I once spent a couple of hours at the Guggenheim
>collection in Venice -- spectacular collection of 'contemporary' art.
>There wasn't a Pollock, Picaso, Motherwell, or Tobey etc etc that I
>wanted to spend 15 minutes in front of -- There are several spots in the
>Uffizi, Louvre, D'Orsay, etc etc etc that compel that sort of attention.
>Those plunderers had remarkably good taste -- which I can't say for a
>large number of the collectors of 'contemporary' art.
"Taste" is one thing, but the excitement of dealing with the art of one's
own lifetime is something that should have little to do with taste. Taste
is what the next generation develops after contact with the last
generation's creative works.
Lynne M. Collinson
> cardenas patricia a wrote:
> >
> > I had the Mona Lisa practically to myself when I visited the Louvre on
> > the evening they're open late.
When I visited Paris 2 years ago, the Louvre was open late 2 nights each
week, but on one of those nights the wing with the Mona Lisa is not open,
so check before you go. Although I was unable to see ML, I soon got over
my momentary disappointment, as we were able to spend hours exploring the
one open wing. There were no crowds and, at one point, my daughter and I
realized we were alone in a gallery at the Louve filled with exquisite
paintings (sigh!).
wal...@dnvn.com
In article <bux-170497...@dial71.bway.net>, b...@bway.net (Robert
Buxbaum) wrote:
>
>
> >I once spent a couple of hours at the Guggenheim
> >collection in Venice -- spectacular collection of 'contemporary' art.
> >There wasn't a Pollock, Picaso, Motherwell, or Tobey etc etc that I
> >wanted to spend 15 minutes in front of -- There are several spots in the
> >Uffizi, Louvre, D'Orsay, etc etc etc that compel that sort of attention.
>
> >Those plunderers had remarkably good taste -- which I can't say for a
> >large number of the collectors of 'contemporary' art.
>
> "Taste" is one thing, but the excitement of dealing with the art of one's
> own lifetime is something that should have little to do with taste. Taste
> is what the next generation develops after contact with the last
> generation's creative works.
>
Yes, but not everything ages well. I am constantly reminded of this
every time I see all those Peter Max 'artworks' in attics and second
hand stores. I am reminded of it everytime I attend a wedding in one
of those chintzy dated 'once modern' 50s-60s ugly 'contemporary design'
churches that litter the current suburban landscape in America.
Maybe the soup can will be surrounded by glass and hoardes of flash
photographers some day as the Mona Lisa is today, but I wouldn't count
on it.
[of course as the first floor of the D'Orsay gives witness -- there was
a lot of crap carved, built and painted in earlier ages as well]
Bill Doyle
I was there last June, and didn't have to wait in line any to get in.
Enjoy!
Jane King
If you buy the Paris Museum Card (not sure that's an official name, but
they're available at museums, metro stations, etc.), you don't have to
stand in line to buy tickets. I bought the three-day pass for about $28
American in 1995; it was good for all kinds of museums (Louvre, d'Orsay,
Orangerie, etc.) as well as other attractions (crypts under Notre Dame,
Ste. Chapelle, Versailles, etc.)--about 60-70 in all. Since most of
these places cost $5-10 to get in, it was a real savings in money as
well as time not spent in lines.
Jcaan
No matter what the Museum card costs, it worth getting it.
Lines are unbeleivable long for the Lourve and Versailles.
I heard the Lourve is open late one day of the week?
Is that true.
O'neil
BCTandT
Yes, the Louve is open late one day a week. When was there, it was open
until 10pm on Tuesday. I went back around 8pm, and had the place to
myself, whereas in the day, I was crushed waiting in line, and had to
contend with a gaggle of cheerleaders to see the Mona Lisa. Definately a
good choice. Enjoy!
d
Absolutely one of the best afternoons I spent in Paris.
Cheers
J in Monterey
Ron Pohala
Dave Isherwood
Chew Kia Khang wrote:
>
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>
> Can someone confirm day for the extended opening hours for Lourve
> and other museums in Paris? The information from a few guidebooks
> seems to suggest that it's Wednesday night for Lourve (and Monday for
> Musee d'Orsay], and I have planned my itinarary of my June visit based
> on this information. Thanks.
How about looking at
http://www.louvre.fr
(It's open late both Mon & Wed.)
Chew Kia Khang
bct...@aol.com (BCTandT) wrote:
Can someone confirm day for the extended opening hours for Lourve
and other museums in Paris? The information from a few guidebooks
seems to suggest that it's Wednesday night for Lourve (and Monday for
Musee d'Orsay], and I have planned my itinarary of my June visit based
on this information. Thanks.
Chew Kia Khang
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cardenas patricia a
The Louvre is open late on mondays (9:00am-9:45pm). Admission is 45F, but
after 3pm and on Sundays it's 26F.
On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Dave Isherwood wrote:
> Chew Kia Khang wrote:
> >
> snipped
> >
> > Can someone confirm day for the extended opening hours for Lourve
> > and other museums in Paris? The information from a few guidebooks
> > seems to suggest that it's Wednesday night for Lourve (and Monday for
> > Musee d'Orsay], and I have planned my itinarary of my June visit based
> > on this information. Thanks.
>
>
Paul Johnson
tickets but to get thru security(handbags etc) so pass saves very little
time. Plenty of ticket sellers once you're inside.
--
MZ
JMNoverr
Paul Johnson <paul...@mtnhome.com> wrote:
Actually, the Louvre is open late twice during the week. It is open
until 9:45 in all departments on Wednesday and in the Richelieu wing
only on Monday. We were there on a Monday and stayed out of the
Ricelieu wing until the 6:00 closing and then moved over. We had no
problem at all with ticket lines but I was using a backpack as a purse
(I was traveling with children) and that had to be inspected and
checked in.
Versailles was another story. The line there on a Sunday (a bad day
to go) was long, long, long, long, long. In addition, moving through
was like being in a can of sardines. My 6 year old daugher saw
nothing but hips and rear ends all through the State Apartments.
Through sheer luck we avoided this line because I wanted to go on a
guided tour of the Queens Private Apartments and this was an
additional expense at a separate window (no line). We bought a combo
guided tour and general admission and bypassed the line. The guided
tour was a special treat, limited group size, english speaking and
chocked full of neat history and details you don't get otherwise.
Anton Johnson
Paul Johnson wrote:
>
> Jcaan wrote:
> >
> > No matter what the Museum card costs, it worth getting it.
> > Lines are unbeleivable long for the Lourve and Versailles.
> > I heard the Lourve is open late one day of the week?
> > Is that true.
> Yes, it's open one night late, but keep in mind lines are not for
> tickets but to get thru security(handbags etc) so pass saves very little
> time. Plenty of ticket sellers once you're inside.
> --
Greetings,
My wife and I went to the Lourve last year. We had no problem with a
long wait. We made it a point to arrive early. With many of the
tourist sites it is good to arrive early and then wander around doing
the shopping in the afternoon. One can avoid big crowds in this way and
often avoid long lines.
--
Have a great day, Anton Johnson
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Peter H. Riley
> Paul Johnson wrote:
> >
> > Jcaan wrote:
> > >
> > > No matter what the Museum card costs, it worth getting it.
> > > Lines are unbeleivable long for the Lourve and Versailles.
> > > I heard the Lourve is open late one day of the week?
> > > Is that true.
> > Yes, it's open one night late, but keep in mind lines are not for
> > tickets but to get thru security(handbags etc) so pass saves very little
> > time. Plenty of ticket sellers once you're inside.
> > --
> > MZ
> Greetings,
> My wife and I went to the Lourve last year. We had no problem with a
> long wait. We made it a point to arrive early. With many of the
> tourist sites it is good to arrive early and then wander around doing
> the shopping in the afternoon. One can avoid big crowds in this way and
> often avoid long lines.
> --
> Have a great day, Anton Johnson
According to the Louvre web site, there is a separate entrance for those
with passes. Last year we waited 2 hours just to buy tickets. No line the
other way.
--
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