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reve...@webtv.net

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of course i love paris. i've also visited strasbourg, colmar, toulouse,
marseille, nice, avignon and arles. i've really been thinking i'd like
to visit lyon next but am curious to hear what others have to say about
french provincial cities. your favorites? adr


Robert Buxbaum

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In article <1426-387...@storefull-125.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
reve...@webtv.net wrote:

It depends on what you are looking for, but I like most of the cities and
villages I've been in. Some of them can be seen quickly. others are more
intersting for a longer stay. On the whole, I like the tiny villages as
much, or more than the cities and enjoy the rural areas. Annecy is very
pictuesque.

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Joan Livingston

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Sarlat in the Dordogne Valley is pretty interesting ....off season...

J

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Robert Buxbaum

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In article <0lbe4.57578$J%4.8...@dfiatx1-snr1.gtei.net>, "Joan Livingston"
<joan.liv...@gte.net> wrote:

>Sarlat in the Dordogne Valley is pretty interesting ....off season...
>

I suppose Annecy is far more enjoyable offseason than in season as well. We
saw it in the early spring and it was not exactly empty of tourists.
Sarlat, OTOH, is a town we visited in August. We couldn't get out of there
fast enough. Oddly enough it was recommended as a must see by friends who
hate touristy places, but of course they saw it offseason.

In asmwer to original question about provincial French cities it would help
to know how and when you are visiting the city. As Ms. Livingston noted the
season may make a big difference. Other cities may lie in the center of
many peripheral attractions. Bordeaux and Dijon, both cities with more than
some interest have the extra atraction of the vineyards and wine towns. To
find a city worth visiting, one need only look at the star page of the
Michelin guide. Any city with a two or three star restaurant will offer a
rewarding experience if you are thoughtful enough to make sure you have a
reservation when you arrive.

derby

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I lived for a year in Rouen - the place where Jean d'Arc was
burned. It is a very lovely city, as is the whole region of
Normandy. The cathedral (which you may have scene in Monet
paintings) is wonderful and the tiny streets of the old
town have some of the best examples of tudor style
architecture - buildings with exposed wood beams
where the upper story juts out into the street. There are
some very excellent restaurants there - fish (very fresh
because of the proximity to Le Havre) and chicken (free
range and so delicious) are recommended. Also anything with
calvados - the region's most delicious apple brandy - and/or
cream and butter (Normandy has the most delicious creams,
butters and cheeses because of the lush green grass that the
cows graze upon). Rouen is only a little over an hour from
Paris and you can stop at Monet's house and gardens,
Giverny, on your way (if it is the right season for the
gardens). There is plenty to do and see in the city and
also plenty of pictoresque countryside around it.

Also in Normandy, Honfleur is a gorgeous little port town
that inspired many of the impressionists. You can enjoy the
pictoresque little harbor, have some fresh seafood, and
visit the tiny little Eugene Boudin impressionist museum
(basically one room, so quite manageable).

St. Malo is a very old walled city surrounded almost
entirely by water off the coast of Normandy - but very near
to Brittany and it is well worth the trip - as is Mont Saint
Michel (better known) which is farther along down the coast.

It seems to me that you have seen a lot of the part of
France that is south of Paris, so why not try some of the
areas to the North and West of Paris?

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reve...@webtv.net wrote:
> of course i love paris. i've also visited strasbourg,
> colmar, toulouse,
> marseille, nice, avignon and arles. i've really been
> thinking i'd like
> to visit lyon next but am curious to hear what others
> have to say about
> french provincial cities. your f


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Versailles is nice. There's a McDonald's right in the middle of town, a
short distance away from that big palace without bathrooms.

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> of course i love paris. i've also visited strasbourg, colmar, toulouse,
> marseille, nice, avignon and arles. i've really been thinking i'd like
> to visit lyon next but am curious to hear what others have to say about

> french provincial cities. your favorites? adr
>

David Lewis

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In article <1426-387...@storefull-125.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
reve...@webtv.net writes

>of course i love paris. i've also visited strasbourg, colmar, toulouse,
>marseille, nice, avignon and arles. i've really been thinking i'd like
>to visit lyon next but am curious to hear what others have to say about
>french provincial cities. your favorites? adr
>
Americans tend to have adifferent definaition of the word "city" from
taht of Europeans.

What size of place do you mean? Someone mentioned Sarlat, but I would
call that a smallish town rather than a city.

Personally, I love Auch and Agen.
--
Marie


ter...@indirective.ca

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On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:14:36 +1600, derby
<jennalbert...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:

>Also in Normandy, Honfleur is a gorgeous little port town
>that inspired many of the impressionists. You can enjoy the

For historical interest, Henry V landed near there and beseiged the
place on the campaign that led to Agincourt

>St. Malo is a very old walled city surrounded almost
>entirely by water off the coast of Normandy - but very near

Actually St. Malo IS in Bretagne/Brittany

>to Brittany and it is well worth the trip - as is Mont Saint
>Michel (better known) which is farther along down the coast.

Falls on the border that divides Bretagne and Normandie, and is in
Normandie

Robert Buxbaum

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In article <mc2n7skcjg4dm61m9...@4ax.com>,
ter...@INdirectIVE.ca wrote:

My recollection is that the very old walled city of St. Malo was just about
flattened during WWII and has been entirely rebuilt. I don't mean to ruin
the effect.

ter...@indirective.ca

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On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:01:10 -0500, Robert Buxbaum
<b...@worldtable.com> wrote:

>>Falls on the border that divides Bretagne and Normandie, and is in
>>Normandie
>
>My recollection is that the very old walled city of St. Malo was just about
>flattened during WWII and has been entirely rebuilt. I don't mean to ruin
>the effect.

Yes, St. Malo was heavily damaged. IT has been restored very well so
that one wouldn't notice unless one really knew what to look for. The
same restoration went into the Cloth Hall in Ypres/Ieper.

Phil Levine

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Great question and I've got too many ideas about that. Yes, St Malo and Mont
St Michel are wonderful and should be seen, but you will run into hordes of
others, especially during the summer. Honfleur is very special for a number
of reasons, not the least is that Claude Monet was encouraged to start
painting out of doors by an artist named Boudin, who lived in Honfleur.
Boudin encouraged the younger Monet to take his easel outside and paint from
nature changing the face of painting forever!
In Brittany there are some other great places: Rochefort-en-Terre, one of
France's 'petit cite de caractere', Quimper and Concarneau near the sea,
Malestroit -where the most incredible museum of the Resistance in located,
and Auvers-sur-Oise where Van Gogh spent the last days of his life. Auvers
hasn't changed much in the 110 years since Van Gogh's death (unlike
Giverny - MOnet's home for over 30 years- that has become very touristic).
Also a great interactive Impressionist Art Museum in Auvers.
While you're at it check out my site at: http://www.paintingfrance.com

walt...@my-deja.com

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In article <1426-387...@storefull-125.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,

reve...@webtv.net wrote:
> of course i love paris. i've also visited strasbourg, colmar,
toulouse,
> marseille, nice, avignon and arles. i've really been thinking i'd
like
> to visit lyon next but am curious to hear what others have to say
about
> french provincial cities. your favorites? adr
>
>

hi,
if you´re able to go to the south, don´t miss toulouse, carcassone,
nimes even perpignan and montepelliers.
try to get some guides and read about. if you are there don´t miss the
villages with their nice, police and easygoing french people, their
fantastic contrast between ancient + super modern building, yeah at
least the mountains along the spain border... may be even you wanna
come back their when you´ve seen + felt that.
have a nice holiday
walter from de


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Robert Parsons

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Phil Levine <nyar...@erols.com> wrote in message
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<snip>


> In Brittany there are some other great places: Rochefort-en-Terre, one of
> France's 'petit cite de caractere', Quimper and Concarneau near the sea,
> Malestroit -where the most incredible museum of the Resistance in located,

The Resistance museum at Malestroit is a definite "must" if travelling in
Britanny. You can even get a ride on a USA WW-II halftrak! Seriously, it
is a fine museum and worth a detour.

Bob Parsons

Rudy Garcia

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In article <FmBe4.16293$Lf2.4...@news6.giganews.com>, "Anthony"
<mxsm...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Versailles is nice. There's a McDonald's right in the middle of town, a
> short distance away from that big palace without bathrooms.
>
> <reve...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:1426-387...@storefull-125.iap.bryant.webtv.net...

> > of course i love paris. i've also visited strasbourg, colmar, toulouse,
> > marseille, nice, avignon and arles. i've really been thinking i'd like
> > to visit lyon next but am curious to hear what others have to say about
> > french provincial cities. your favorites? adr

Oh my God! To be amidst all that wonderful french cuissine at
outrageously low prices (for those small out of the way excellent
restaurants) and worry about the proximity to a McDonalds?

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Isabelle Mousseau

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Hello,

If you follow the suggestion of the group and visit Brittany and Normandy, I
have two more suggestions for you.

In Brittany, I have visited Pointe du Raz near Vanne village and it was
wonderful. It is a sort of peninsula made of rock. It is difficult to
describe. Druids use to send their dead persons in the sea near this area so
they could reach Sen Island. You should take the guided visit. I think there
is only one guide and he is really nice and interesting. There is many story
about this area and it's sound like magic...

If you visit Vanne, it is fun to take a boat trip.

Also, In Normandy, I suggest you to visit Bayeux. I saw the Guillaume The
Conqueror tapestry that are describing is life. It is really impressive. It
is done during the eleven century I think (I'm not good in remembering
dates). Also, you could visit beaches that was important in second
international war. Although, I didn't visit that. I didn't have the time to
do it.

Have a good trip

Isabelle Mousseau
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LZ

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Jan 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/15/00
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For the literal minded:

There is a concept called "tongue in cheek" and there are posters who do
not feel inclined to resort to tools like ;-) and <grin> to get their
point across. For the befuddled, I'd like to point out that millions of
books have been written without the use of emoticons. And come to think
of it, I've even come across comedies without laugh tracks on occasion.

Lana


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Judith Nicholls

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><reve...@webtv.net> wrote

>> of course i love paris. i've also visited strasbourg, colmar, toulouse,
>> marseille, nice, avignon and arles. i've really been thinking i'd like
>> to visit lyon next but am curious to hear what others have to say about
>> french provincial cities. your favorites? adr

Why don't you "get out of town"? You've seen a lot of nice towns. This
time rent a car and do the countryside. If you are starting from Paris, do
the Loire. Stay in castles. See older castles. Lovely! Or go south, as
someone else mentioned, but do it in a car. We love the southern France
countryside. Carcasonne and Nimes are a couple of nice ones. But it seems
that few get to the gorges of the Tarn or the Ardeche, for example. We
just love poking around in rural France.

Judy
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Michael Forrest

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In article <85ii7n$dlq$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, walt...@my-deja.com writes

>if you are there don´t miss the
>villages with their nice, police and easygoing french people,

Interesting typo (I presume).

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Michael Forrest

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In article <1426-387...@storefull-125.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
reve...@webtv.net writes

>of course i love paris. i've also visited strasbourg, colmar, toulouse,
>marseille, nice, avignon and arles. i've really been thinking i'd like
>to visit lyon next but am curious to hear what others have to say about
>french provincial cities. your favorites? adr
>
My favourite small French city is Cahors in the South-West on the River
Lot. (And on the N20/A20 main road/autroroute.) It has a beautiful
cathedral and a beautiful bridge (the Pont Valentre). Nearby are other
small towns and Bastides. South of it are Montauban and Toulouse - both
good cities to visit. Another city fairly near is Albi with its red
cathedral. North of Cahors is the Dordogne area which is well known for
its "visitability".
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walt...@my-deja.com

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In article <IuCBBNAm...@sonning.demon.co.uk>,
michael

certianly not the bloody froggy cops are ment then the nice, polite
people.

walter

Gail Koontz

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On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:29:38 +0000, Michael Forrest wrote:

>My favourite small French city is Cahors in the South-West on the River
>Lot. (And on the N20/A20 main road/autroroute.) It has a beautiful
>cathedral and a beautiful bridge (the Pont Valentre).

And you didn't mention the marvellous mill boat (at one time anchored in the
middle of the stream) and the deep red Cahors wine!

Other small places we adored were Rocamadour (not to be missed if you're
anywhere near there!), Stes. Maries de la Mer (the tiny museum included a
picture of Buffalo Bill - and did you realize that many of the early American
cowboys were Guardiens from the Camargue area?), L'Isle sur la Sorgue
(fantastic market), Seguret, Les Baux, and Roquebrune. There are so many
wonderful small towns in southern France that it's impossible to name them
all.


Gail Koontz Retired in my home state
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Cocoa, FL 32926 gail....@quancon.com


Michael Forrest

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In article <tnvyxbbagmdhnapbap...@news1.lig.bellsouth.net
>, Gail Koontz <gail....@quancon.com> writes

>On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:29:38 +0000, Michael Forrest wrote:
>
>>My favourite small French city is Cahors in the South-West on the River
>>Lot. (And on the N20/A20 main road/autroroute.) It has a beautiful
>>cathedral and a beautiful bridge (the Pont Valentre).
>
>And you didn't mention the marvellous mill boat (at one time anchored in the
>middle of the stream) and the deep red Cahors wine!
>
Cahors wine has become lighter as it was found that the old form in
which a spoon would stand up was too heavy for modern tastes.
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mach...@my-deja.com

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reve...@webtv.net wrote:
> I am writing a holiday report for my higher
english class on either Nice or Brittany.
>I would be grateful if you could send me some
information on any of these cities.
>I would like to know things like places to visit,
places to eat and stay.
THANKS.

Robert Buxbaum

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In article <877f98$j7$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, mach...@my-deja.com wrote:

>In article
><1426-387...@storefull-125.iap.bryant.webtv.n
>et>,
> reve...@webtv.net wrote:
>> I am writing a holiday report for my higher
>english class on either Nice or Brittany.
>>I would be grateful if you could send me some
>information on any of these cities.
>>I would like to know things like places to visit,
> places to eat and stay.
>THANKS.
>

Information on both Nice and Brittany is so easy to come by on the Internet
and in the library. This group is for sharing information and providing
helpful information, but not for doing someone's homework. That said, I
will tell you that Nice is a city in southern France on the Mediterannean
Sea, not far from Italy. Brittany, however is a fairly large region and
contains many cities. Basically it is the northeastern peninsula that juts
out into the Atlantic Ocean. The local language, still spoken by many at the
western end of the Province is of Celtic origin. The legends of King Arthur
have apparently been traced to Brittany. There is more than a little bit of
information about what to eat and even where to stay in Brittany as well as
some notes on what to see, on a couple of my web pages. See sig. below

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