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Bruce K.

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Nov 29, 2008, 9:04:47 AM11/29/08
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We'll be passing through Sens on the way from Dijon to Paris.

Thanks,

Bruce

tim.....

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Nov 29, 2008, 9:13:17 AM11/29/08
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"Bruce K." <brucea...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> We'll be passing through Sens on the way from Dijon to Paris.

And you want to know if some official people will get on the train to look
at your bags?

How quaint

tim


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David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)

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tim..... <tims_n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but it's just another term for
left-luggage.

--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
www.davidhorne.net (email address on website)
"The fact is that when I compose I never think of and never
have thought of meeting the listener." -George Perle

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beef connective tissue

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Nov 29, 2008, 11:34:13 AM11/29/08
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speak English Bruce....

David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)

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Nov 29, 2008, 11:37:51 AM11/29/08
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Bruce K. <brucea...@optonline.net> wrote:

> We'll be passing through Sens on the way from Dijon to Paris.

I wouldn't count on it. A useful website for finding out station
facilities in France is http://www.gares-en-mouvement.com/ but it
doesn't include Sens, as far as I can tell. I've been at a few smaller
train stations recently in France which didn't have the service. I don't
think the sncf website is particularly helpful for finding out this
information- and they have an odd sense of humour in displaying a place
on their front page (at the moment) which isn't accessible by train...

David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)

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Nov 29, 2008, 11:41:02 AM11/29/08
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Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:22:22 +0000, d4g...@yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >tim..... <tims_n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> "Bruce K." <brucea...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> >> news:fti2j4tej7v6t31df...@4ax.com...
> >> > We'll be passing through Sens on the way from Dijon to Paris.
> >>
> >> And you want to know if some official people will get on the train to look
> >> at your bags?
> >>
> >> How quaint
> >
> >I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but it's just another term for
> >left-luggage.
>

> Not in Europe.

You knew what he meant.

> Anyway where did he mention trains?

He didn't. It's a safe assumption.

Lennart Petersen

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Nov 29, 2008, 11:43:15 AM11/29/08
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"Magda" <hello.s...@noos.fr> skrev i meddelandet
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> On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 09:04:47 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, Bruce K.
> <brucea...@optonline.net> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
> this:
>
> ... We'll be passing through Sens on the way from Dijon to Paris.
> ...
> ... Thanks,
> ...
> ... Bruce
>
> Sens is another country within France??
>
> No one told me!
-----------
If a country or not, he's probably just looking for a left luggage service
in Sens being on the route from Dijon to Paris.
Reason to believe that o.p wants to make a short stop in Sens.


Lennart Petersen

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"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> skrev i meddelandet
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> On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:22:22 +0000, d4g...@yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>

>>tim..... <tims_n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> "Bruce K." <brucea...@optonline.net> wrote in message
>>> news:fti2j4tej7v6t31df...@4ax.com...
>>> > We'll be passing through Sens on the way from Dijon to Paris.
>>>
>>> And you want to know if some official people will get on the train to
>>> look
>>> at your bags?
>>>
>>> How quaint
>>
>>I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but it's just another term for
>>left-luggage.
>

> Not in Europe. Anyway where did he mention trains?
> --
Not at all, but going by car you've probably not so much reason to ask for
left luggage service.


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David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)

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Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:41:02 +0000, d4g...@yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_


> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:22:22 +0000, d4g...@yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_
> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >>
> >> >tim..... <tims_n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Bruce K." <brucea...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:fti2j4tej7v6t31df...@4ax.com...
> >> >> > We'll be passing through Sens on the way from Dijon to Paris.
> >> >>
> >> >> And you want to know if some official people will get on the train
> >> >> to look at your bags?
> >> >>
> >> >> How quaint
> >> >
> >> >I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but it's just another term for
> >> >left-luggage.
> >>
> >> Not in Europe.
> >
> >You knew what he meant.
>

> To be honest, initially I didn't.

Well, you learned something then! :)

It is useful, as some Americans will look at you oddly in the US when
you ask where "left-luggage" is. I think they call it parcel check at NY
Penn station...

> >
> >> Anyway where did he mention trains?
> >
> >He didn't. It's a safe assumption.
>

> No assumption is safe on RTE when daft questions are being asked. I assumed
> troll.

If I bother to answer a question on RTE, I'm not really doing it for the
person asking the question. (Though Bruce K is not an unknown poster
here, and not a troll IME.) I'm doing it for a wider readership, though
ultimately myself- IOW, what would I do to find out if a French station
had left luggage...

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pg

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Nov 29, 2008, 12:44:42 PM11/29/08
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"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:55:24 +0000, d4g...@yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
=>>> >> >> > We'll be passing through Sens on the way from Dijon to Paris.

>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> And you want to know if some official people will get on the train
>>> >> >> to look at your bags?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> How quaint
>>> >> >
>>> >> >I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but it's just another term
>>> >> >for
>>> >> >left-luggage.
>>> >>
>>> >> Not in Europe.
>>> >
>>> >You knew what he meant.
>>>
>>> To be honest, initially I didn't.
>>
>>Well, you learned something then! :)
>>
>>It is useful, as some Americans will look at you oddly in the US when
>>you ask where "left-luggage" is. I think they call it parcel check at NY
>>Penn station...
>
> I can't recall ever having to ask.
>
> I did say initially, I recalled something I knew already. :)

>
>>> >
>>> >> Anyway where did he mention trains?
>>> >
>>> >He didn't. It's a safe assumption.
>>>
>>> No assumption is safe on RTE when daft questions are being asked. I
>>> assumed
>>> troll.
>>
>>If I bother to answer a question on RTE, I'm not really doing it for the
>>person asking the question. (Though Bruce K is not an unknown poster
>>here, and not a troll IME.) I'm doing it for a wider readership, though
>>ultimately myself- IOW, what would I do to find out if a French station
>>had left luggage...
>
> or a town?

Just to back you up ever so slightly on this, despite having lived in all
manner of countries (except for the US), I was as clueless as you were about
the original enquiry.

pg
http://frogblog-thaidings.blogspot.com/


tim.....

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Nov 29, 2008, 1:13:41 PM11/29/08
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"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:41:02 +0000, d4g...@yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_

> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
>>Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:22:22 +0000, d4g...@yahoo.co.uk (David Horne,
>>> _the_
>>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>>
>>> >tim..... <tims_n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> "Bruce K." <brucea...@optonline.net> wrote in message
>>> >> news:fti2j4tej7v6t31df...@4ax.com...
>>> >> > We'll be passing through Sens on the way from Dijon to Paris.
>>> >>
>>> >> And you want to know if some official people will get on the train to
>>> >> look
>>> >> at your bags?
>>> >>
>>> >> How quaint
>>> >
>>> >I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but it's just another term for
>>> >left-luggage.
>>>
>>> Not in Europe.
>>
>>You knew what he meant.
>
> To be honest, initially I didn't.

ditto

Yes I did work it out

but I really didn't know when he meant when I first read it

tim


Lennart Petersen

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Nov 29, 2008, 1:15:09 PM11/29/08
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"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> skrev i meddelandet

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> and if they are hitch hiking, there is every reason.
>
Very common today....!
Nevertheless, if there's a left service at all it's likely to be found at
the railstation.


JuanElorza

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Nov 29, 2008, 1:17:42 PM11/29/08
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Apparently no more baggage checks in Sens.
Trains stations where you will surely find baggage checks :
Paris Austerlitz/Lyon/ Montparnasse/Nord et Marne la Vallée Chessy,
Angers, Avignon centre, Bordeaux, Cannes, Marseille, Nantes, Nice,
Toulouse, Lyon Part-Dieu, Dijon, Lyon Perrache, Strasbourg

JuanElorza

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Nov 29, 2008, 1:22:55 PM11/29/08
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On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 09:04:47 -0500, Bruce K. wrote :

Informations web site on train stations in France, Sens doesn't appear
among them.
http://www.gares-en-mouvement.com/


The language selection button does not give anything but french, a
translator will give you an idea of the content.
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/

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Runge13

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Nov 29, 2008, 5:41:54 PM11/29/08
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Notice how martin chases horne

"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> a écrit dans le message de

news:p8r2j49v6q0fkudeq...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:22:22 +0000, d4g...@yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>

>>tim..... <tims_n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> "Bruce K." <brucea...@optonline.net> wrote in message
>>> news:fti2j4tej7v6t31df...@4ax.com...
>>> > We'll be passing through Sens on the way from Dijon to Paris.
>>>
>>> And you want to know if some official people will get on the train to
>>> look
>>> at your bags?
>>>
>>> How quaint
>>
>>I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but it's just another term for
>>left-luggage.
>

> Not in Europe. Anyway where did he mention trains?
> --
>

> Martin
>

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grusl

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"pg" <pg...@alpesprovence.net> wrote in message news:ggrv28$ij2$1...@aioe.org...

Likewise ... but it's early here. No troll, I don't think, just a vague
question.

Cheers,
George W Russell
Bangalore


Runge13

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hahaha aren't they funny those 2 !!!

"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> a écrit dans le message de

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> On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:31:53 +0100, Magda <hello.s...@noos.fr> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:27:23 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin
>><m...@address.invalid>


>>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>>

>> ... On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:20:13 +0100, Magda <hello.s...@noos.fr>
>> wrote:
>> ...
>> ... >On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 09:04:47 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, Bruce K.
>> ... ><brucea...@optonline.net> arranged some electrons, so they
>> looked like this:
>> ... >
>> ... > ... We'll be passing through Sens on the way from Dijon to Paris.
>> ... > ...


>> ... > ... Thanks,
>> ... > ...

>> ... > ... Bruce
>> ... >
>> ... >Sens is another country within France??
>> ... >
>> ... >No one told me!
>> ...
>> ... You need to make more effort to keep up at the back, Magda.
>>
>>I'm only giggling over here.
>
> See me after school.
> --
>
> Martin
>

Runge13

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Nov 30, 2008, 4:13:30 AM11/30/08
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Noooo really martin ?
Thanks so much for your help !!!

"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> a écrit dans le message de

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> On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:15:09 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"

> Apparently not in this case.
>
>>
>
> They are sometimes found in bus stations too and of course in some
> airports.
> --
>
> Martin
>

Bruce K.

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Nov 30, 2008, 9:23:47 AM11/30/08
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Sorry for the ambiguous post.

The question should have been:

Is there a left luggage vendor at the Sens Rail station?

Thanks again,

Bruce

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Erick T. Barkhuis

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Zane:
> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:05:56 +0530, "grusl"
> <grusl@hot_NO_SPAM_mail.com> wrote:
>
> (snip)

>
> >> Just to back you up ever so slightly on this, despite having lived in all
> >> manner of countries (except for the US), I was as clueless as you were
> >> about the original enquiry.
> >>
> >
> >Likewise ... but it's early here. No troll, I don't think, just a vague
> >question.
>
>
> I was surprised at the response to the original question, since I
> didn't think "hat check" and "coat check", for example, were
> unusual terms in the UK. (On the other hand, I would have never
> figured out "left-luggage" without being told explicitly what that
> meant.)

Well, I would have easily guessed what left-luggage is supposed to be.
But "luggage check" or "baggage check" to me sound like luggage control
as performed using X-ray at the airport.

When reading the original question, I immediately associated it with a
plane stopover and an inquiry whether or not the bags had to be re-
scanned.

Interesting language, english! :-)


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Alan S

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On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:06:18 -0600, Zane
<zane...@sansnetcom.com> wrote:

>
>
>I was surprised at the response to the original question, since I
>didn't think "hat check" and "coat check", for example, were
>unusual terms in the UK. (On the other hand, I would have never
>figured out "left-luggage" without being told explicitly what that
>meant.)
>

>Zane

I also took it to mean some sort of official luggage
inspection.

The later context means, presumably, a cloak-room or
left-luggage.

You probably also think a grill sits under food being
cooked, rather than above it, that all pumpkins are orange
and that all service staff should be tipped.


Cheers, Alan, Australia
--
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Latest: Two Indian Hotels: to Sleep, Perchance...

Alan S

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I hope not. If I leave luggage there, I don't want it sold
before I return...:-)

beef connective tissue

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On 30 Nov, 20:05, Alan S <noth...@there.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:06:18 -0600, Zane
>
> <zanek...@sansnetcom.com> wrote:
>
> >I was surprised at the response to the original question, since I
> >didn't  think "hat check" and "coat check", for example,  were
> >unusual terms in the UK.  (On the other hand, I would have never
> >figured out "left-luggage" without being told explicitly what that
> >meant.)
>
> >Zane
>
> I also took it to mean some sort of official luggage
> inspection.
>
> The later context means, presumably, a cloak-room or
> left-luggage.
>
> You probably also think a grill sits under food being
> cooked, rather than above it, that all pumpkins are orange
> and that all service staff should be tipped.
>
> Cheers, Alan, Australia
> --http://loraltravel.blogspot.com

> Latest: Two Indian Hotels: to Sleep, Perchance...

what colour pumpkins do you have ?

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Gregory Morrow

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Martin wrote:


A bit of slap and tickle for _Carry On Magda_...???


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Alan S

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Green, blue, yellow-green, yellow. Some examples:
http://www.natureshaven.com.au/index.php?M=2&B=20
You might call them winter squash, we call them Pumpkin.

Your broiler is our grill.

Your grill is our hot-plate.

Cheers, Alan, Australia
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:18:13 +0100, Magda
<pikro...@noos.fr.die.spammers> wrote:

> ... You probably also think a grill sits under food being
> ... cooked, rather than above it, that all pumpkins are orange
> ... and that all service staff should be tipped.
>
>Going OT, Alan - do you happen to know a pumpkin that has a "neck", like a
>dinosaur's?

Some butternuts can look a little like that; but I don't
know of any particular species that could be described as
T-Rex or Brontopumpkin.

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Runge13

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trying hard, eh martin ?
Thread is over you'll have to pollute elsewhere ...

"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> a écrit dans le message de

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> On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:37:51 +0000, d4g...@yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:


>
>>Bruce K. <brucea...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>> We'll be passing through Sens on the way from Dijon to Paris.
>>

>>I wouldn't count on it. A useful website for finding out station
>>facilities in France is http://www.gares-en-mouvement.com/ but it
>>doesn't include Sens, as far as I can tell. I've been at a few smaller
>>train stations recently in France which didn't have the service. I don't
>>think the sncf website is particularly helpful for finding out this
>>information- and they have an odd sense of humour in displaying a place
>>on their front page (at the moment) which isn't accessible by train...
>
> for those travelling by car on the auto route?
> --
>
> Martin
>

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Erick T. Barkhuis

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Zane:
> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:00:35 +0100, Erick T. Barkhuis
> <erick....@ardane.c-o-m> wrote:
>
> (snip)

>
> >Well, I would have easily guessed what left-luggage is supposed to be.
>
> The first time I heard the term (left-luggage) some years back I
> thought it was probably referring to a place where lost luggage was
> collected, like the places where airlines take lost bags, so you're
> better at inferring what unfamiliar terms mean than I am.

Well, I remembered a term "lost-and-found" and thought that "left
luggage" must therefore be something else.


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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)

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Zane wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:00:35 +0100, Erick T. Barkhuis
> <erick....@ardane.c-o-m> wrote:
>
> (snip)
>

>> Well, I would have easily guessed what left-luggage is supposed to be.
>

> The first time I heard the term (left-luggage) some years back I
> thought it was probably referring to a place where lost luggage was
> collected, like the places where airlines take lost bags,

Isn't it? That's certainly the meaning I've always assumed!

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Gregory Morrow

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Magda wrote:

> On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 00:29:49 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin


<m...@address.invalid>
> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>

> ... On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:20:50 +0100, Magda
<pikro...@noos.fr.die.spammers>
> ... wrote:
> ...
> ... >On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:56:21 -0600, "Gregory Morrow"
<oo3...@oooopp.is> wrote:
> ... >
> ... > ...
> ... > ... Martin wrote:
> ... > ...
> ... > ... > On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:31:53 +0100, Magda
<hello.s...@noos.fr> wrote:
> ... > ... >
> ... > ... > >On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:27:23 +0100, in rec.travel.europe,
Martin
> ... > ... <m...@address.invalid>
> ... > ... > >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
> ... > ... > >
> ... > ... > > ... On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:20:13 +0100, Magda
<hello.s...@noos.fr>
> ... > ... wrote:
> ... > ... > > ...
> ... > ... > > ... >On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 09:04:47 -0500, in
rec.travel.europe, Bruce K.
> ... > ... > > ... ><brucea...@optonline.net> arranged some electrons,
so they
> ... > ... looked like this:
> ... > ... > > ... >
> ... > ... > > ... > ... We'll be passing through Sens on the way from


Dijon to Paris.
> ... > ... > > ... > ...
> ... > ... > > ... > ... Thanks,
> ... > ... > > ... > ...
> ... > ... > > ... > ... Bruce

> ... > ... > > ... >
> ... > ... > > ... >Sens is another country within France??
> ... > ... > > ... >
> ... > ... > > ... >No one told me!
> ... > ... > > ...
> ... > ... > > ... You need to make more effort to keep up at the back,
Magda.
> ... > ... > >
> ... > ... > >I'm only giggling over here.
> ... > ... >
> ... > ... > See me after school.
> ... > ...
> ... > ...
> ... > ... A bit of slap and tickle for _Carry On Magda_...???
> ... >
> ... >I'll shop him to the police if he touches a single hair on my head!
> ...
> ... or anywhere else if it comes to that.
>
> That goes without saying.


What, Martin doesn't have a trusting face...???


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Greg

Gregory Morrow

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scRunge13 blabbles:

> trying hard, eh martin ?
> Thread is over you'll have to pollute elsewhere ...


"Vols Air Inter"


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" I find Greg Morrow lowbrow, witless, and obnoxious. For him to claim that
we are some
kind of comedy team turns my stomach."
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On Dec 1, 10:13 pm, Magda <hello.spamm...@noos.fr> wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:30:08 -0600, in rec.travel.europe, "Gregory Morrow"
> <oo3l...@oooopp.is> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
>  ... ... Magda wrote:
>
>  ...
>  ... > On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 00:29:49 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin
>  ... <m...@address.invalid>

>  ... > arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>  ... >
>  ... >  ... On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:20:50 +0100, Magda
>  ... <pikroda...@noos.fr.die.spammers>

>  ... >  ... wrote:
>  ... >  ...
>  ... >  ... >On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:56:21 -0600, "Gregory Morrow" ... <oo3l...@oooopp.is> wrote:
>
>  ... >  ... >
>  ... >  ... > ...
>  ... >  ... > ... Martin wrote:
>  ... >  ... > ...
>  ... >  ... > ... > On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:31:53 +0100, Magda ... <hello.spamm...@noos.fr> wrote:
>
>  ... >  ... > ... >
>  ... >  ... > ... > >On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:27:23 +0100, in rec.travel.europe,
>  ... Martin
>  ... >  ... > ... <m...@address.invalid>
>  ... >  ... > ... > >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

>  ... >  ... > ... > >
>  ... >  ... > ... > > ... On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:20:13 +0100, Magda
>  ... <hello.spamm...@noos.fr>

>  ... >  ... > ... wrote:
>  ... >  ... > ... > > ...
>  ... >  ... > ... > > ... >On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 09:04:47 -0500, in
>  ... rec.travel.europe, Bruce K.
>  ... >  ... > ... > > ... ><bruceaknos...@optonline.net> arranged some electrons,
>  ... so they
>  ... >  ... > ... looked like this:

>  ... >  ... > ... > > ... >
>  ... >  ... > ... > > ... > ... We'll be passing through Sens on the way from
>  ... Dijon to Paris.

>  ... >  ... > ... > > ... > ...
>  ... >  ... > ... > > ... > ... Thanks,

>  ... >  ... > ... > > ... > ...
>  ... >  ... > ... > > ... > ... Bruce

>  ... >  ... > ... > > ... >
>  ... >  ... > ... > > ... >Sens is another country within France??
>  ... >  ... > ... > > ... >
>  ... >  ... > ... > > ... >No one told me!
>  ... >  ... > ... > > ...
>  ... >  ... > ... > > ... You need to make more effort to keep up at the back,
>  ... Magda.

>  ... >  ... > ... > >
>  ... >  ... > ... > >I'm only giggling over here.
>  ... >  ... > ... >
>  ... >  ... > ... > See me after school.
>  ... >  ... > ...
>  ... >  ... > ...
>  ... >  ... > ... A bit of slap and tickle for _Carry On Magda_...???
>  ... >  ... >
>  ... >  ... >I'll shop him to the police if he touches a single hair on my head!
>  ... >  ...
>  ... >  ... or anywhere else if it comes to that.
>  ... >
>  ... > That goes without saying.
>  ...
>  ...
>  ... What, Martin doesn't have a trusting face...???
>
> I never saw his face, he hides it very carefully...
>
> =====
> It sounds much better in French, but then, everything does.

peut-être il a la maladie "Ed Zachary".......

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Erick T. Barkhuis

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Martin:
> Left is the past tense of leave. It's a place to leave your luggage.

Well, yes. But that can be done intentionally and unintentionally.
For instance, someone may be upset and say something like: "Aargh! I
left my luggage in that taxi!", pointing at a cab's red lights one
hunderd meters away.

This person may call the taxi company's back office in the evening and
ask if his bags have been dropped at 'left luggage' by the driver.
[Assuming that 'left luggage' is interpreted as 'lost-and-found'.]

--
Erick

beef connective tissue

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On Dec 1, 11:41 pm, Magda <hello.spamm...@noos.fr> wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:26:20 -0800 (PST), in rec.travel.europe, beef connective tissue
> <michaelnewp...@yahoo.com> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
>  ... On Dec 1, 10:13 pm, Magda <hello.spamm...@noos.fr> wrote:
>  ... > On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:30:08 -0600, in rec.travel.europe, "Gregory Morrow"
>  ... > <oo3l...@oooopp.is> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>  ... >

>  ... >  ... ... Magda wrote:
>  ... >
>  ... >  ...

>  ... >  ... > On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 00:29:49 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin
>  ... >  ... <m...@address.invalid>

>  ... >  ... > arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>  ... >  ... >
>  ... >  ... >  ... On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:20:50 +0100, Magda
>  ... >  ... <pikroda...@noos.fr.die.spammers>

>  ... >  ... >  ... wrote:
>  ... >  ... >  ...
>  ... >  ... >  ... >On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:56:21 -0600, "Gregory Morrow" ... <oo3l...@oooopp.is> wrote:
>  ... >
>  ... >  ... >  ... >
>  ... >  ... >  ... > ...
>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... Martin wrote:
>  ... >  ... >  ... > ...
>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... > On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:31:53 +0100, Magda ... <hello.spamm...@noos.fr> wrote:
>  ... >
>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... >
>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... > >On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:27:23 +0100, in rec.travel.europe,
>  ... >  ... Martin
>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... <m...@address.invalid>
>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... > >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... > >
>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... > > ... On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:20:13 +0100, Magda
>  ... >  ... <hello.spamm...@noos.fr>

>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... wrote:
>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... > > ...
>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... > > ... >On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 09:04:47 -0500, in
>  ... >  ... rec.travel.europe, Bruce K.
>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... > > ... ><bruceaknos...@optonline.net> arranged some electrons,
>  ... >  ... so they
>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... looked like this:

>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... > > ... >
>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... > > ... > ... We'll be passing through Sens on the way from
>  ... >  ... Dijon to Paris.

>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... > > ... > ...
>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... > > ... > ... Thanks,

>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... > > ... > ...
>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... > > ... > ... Bruce

>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... > > ... >
>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... > > ... >Sens is another country within France??
>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... > > ... >
>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... > > ... >No one told me!
>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... > > ...
>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... > > ... You need to make more effort to keep up at the back,
>  ... >  ... Magda.

>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... > >
>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... > >I'm only giggling over here.
>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... >
>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... > See me after school.
>  ... >  ... >  ... > ...
>  ... >  ... >  ... > ...
>  ... >  ... >  ... > ... A bit of slap and tickle for _Carry On Magda_...???

>  ... >  ... >  ... >
>  ... >  ... >  ... >I'll shop him to the police if he touches a single hair on my head!
>  ... >  ... >  ...
>  ... >  ... >  ... or anywhere else if it comes to that.

>  ... >  ... >
>  ... >  ... > That goes without saying.
>  ... >  ...
>  ... >  ...

>  ... >  ... What, Martin doesn't have a trusting face...???
>  ... >
>  ... > I never saw his face, he hides it very carefully...
>  ... >
>  ... > =====
>  ... > It sounds much better in French, but then, everything does.
>  ...
>  ... peut-être il a la maladie "Ed Zachary".......
>
> Aucune idée de quoi tu parles.

>
> =====
> It sounds much better in French, but then, everything does.

face look "Ed Zachary" like arse.....

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Renfred

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Dec 2, 2008, 1:36:16 AM12/2/08
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Bruce K.;943007 Wrote:
> We'll be passing through Sens on the way from Dijon to Paris.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bruce


Hey, check on these Lufstansa site links, they have other pages
explaining a great deal of FAQS too :)


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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)

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Martin wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:14:57 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
> <evg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>

> Left is the past tense of leave. It's a place to leave your luggage.

If you say so - I inferred "left" to mean "left inadvertently" (i.e.
"lost") ;-)

EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)

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Martin wrote:

> Left luggage only has one meaning in UK English.

Who was it that said "England and America are divided by a common
language"? ;-)

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Mark Brader

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Dec 4, 2008, 12:05:20 AM12/4/08
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"Martin":
> So explain what "check" [has] to do with left luggage, hats and rain.

In North America the act of leaving something and being given a ticket
to reclaim it is called checking it, and the ticket is a check (often
qualified by the type of object -- baggage check, hat check, coat check,
laundry check). When traveling by air (and sometimes also by train)
you may have "checked baggage" and "carry-on baggage".

If you go to a baseball game and it's canceled due to weather, you
turn in your ticket stub for compensation in the form of admission
to a future game. (Or so I hear; I'm not a baseball fan.) In this
role the stub is like a baggage check because you exchange it for an
item of value, and is called a raincheck.

(A further use of "raincheck" is as a metaphor in social situations:
it refers to an agreement to do something on a later date than was
first suggested. "Yes, I'd like to see that movie with you, but I'm
busy tomorrow; can I take a raincheck?")
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My text in this article is in the public domain.

Erick T. Barkhuis

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Dec 4, 2008, 12:25:25 AM12/4/08
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Mark Brader:

> If you go to a baseball game and it's canceled due to weather, you
> turn in your ticket stub for compensation in the form of admission

> to a future game. ...and is called a raincheck.


>
> (A further use of "raincheck" is as a metaphor in social situations:
> it refers to an agreement to do something on a later date than was
> first suggested. "Yes, I'd like to see that movie with you, but I'm
> busy tomorrow; can I take a raincheck?")


...which fits very well with the North-American expression "I don't
know exactly, but my ballpark guess would be..."

[referring to spectators, who couldn't really tell whether a runner was
out or not, but at the same time boo the umpire because the call went
against their own guess, which is usually in favor of the team they're
rooting for]

--
Erick

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)

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Martin wrote:

> Somebody before GWB made things much worse?

I'm more inclined to credit GBS! ;-) (It was some literary
heavy-weight, but I don't remember who.)

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jhimli

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'David Horne, _the_ chancellor[_2_ Wrote:
> ;943017']Martin m...@address.invalid wrote:
> -
> On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:22:22 +0000, d4g...@yahoo.co.uk (David Horne,
> _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
> -
> tim..... tims_n...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> -
> "Bruce K." brucea...@optonline.net wrote in message
> news:fti2j4tej7v6t31df...@4ax.com...

> We'll be passing through Sens on the way from Dijon to Paris.
>
> And you want to know if some official people will get on the train to
> look
> at your bags?
>
> How quaint-
>
> I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but it's just another term
> for
> left-luggage.-
>
> Not in Europe. -
>
> You knew what he meant.
> -
> Anyway where did he mention trains?-
>
> He didn't. It's a safe assumption.
>
> --
> (*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
> www.davidhorne.net (email address on website)
> "The fact is that when I compose I never think of and never
> have thought of meeting the listener." -George Perle


Hi all, thats an interesting post.


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Mark Brader

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Dec 5, 2008, 8:31:50 PM12/5/08
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Mark Brader:
>> If you go to a baseball game and it's canceled due to weather, you
>> turn in your ticket stub for compensation in the form of admission
>> to a future game. ...and is called a raincheck.

Erick Barkhuis:


> ...which fits very well with the North-American expression "I don't
> know exactly, but my ballpark guess would be..."
>
> [referring to spectators, who couldn't really tell whether a runner was
> out or not, but at the same time boo the umpire because the call went

> against their own guess...]

Ah, sorry, no. It means a guess that you don't expect is right, but you
do know it won't be terribly wrong. It will be "in the right ballpark"
(that's another common expression) -- a ballpark being a fairly large but
still limited area. Ballpark guesses are made on numerical questions,
not questions like whether a runner was out.

If you ask me how far it is from here to Paris (bringing the thread back
to European travel), and all I know is that it's more than 2,500 miles
and less than 7,000, then I might say "I'll make a ballpark guess of
5,000 miles."
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Erick T. Barkhuis

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Dec 6, 2008, 1:07:39 AM12/6/08
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Mark Brader:

> Mark Brader:
> >> If you go to a baseball game and it's canceled due to weather, you
> >> turn in your ticket stub for compensation in the form of admission
> >> to a future game. ...and is called a raincheck.
>
> Erick Barkhuis:
> > ...which fits very well with the North-American expression "I don't
> > know exactly, but my ballpark guess would be..."
> >
> > [referring to spectators, who couldn't really tell whether a runner was
> > out or not, but at the same time boo the umpire because the call went
> > against their own guess...]
>
> Ah, sorry, no. It means a guess that you don't expect is right, but you
> do know it won't be terribly wrong. It will be "in the right ballpark"
> (that's another common expression) -- a ballpark being a fairly large but
> still limited area. Ballpark guesses are made on numerical questions,
> not questions like whether a runner was out.

I've been googling for a while to see where the phrase "ballpark guess"
comes from, but haven't found a reliable source, yet.

So far, my friends in the States have always confirmed, that "ballpark
guess" comes from the fact that everyone in a ballpark claims to know
what's going on, but in fact merely guesses. This is quite different
from your "a ballpark is a large but still limited space". It might
well be that you're absolutely right (your explanation sounds
plausible)....but on the other hand, how has the ballpark become symbol
for such space and not any other limited space like a concert hall, a
gym, a space shuttle or a transport container?

--
Erick

Mark Brader

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Dec 6, 2008, 4:30:56 PM12/6/08
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Erick Barkhuis:

> It might well be that you're absolutely right (your explanation sounds
> plausible)....but on the other hand, how has the ballpark become symbol
> for such space and not any other limited space like a concert hall, a
> gym, a space shuttle or a transport container?

I would guess it's simply because metaphors from baseball are so popular.
As for the meaning being what I said, see these dictionary listings:

http://www.bartleby.com/61/61/B0046100.html
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ballpark
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