Stephen Ellenson wrote:
> ..... to rec.travel.europe, one and all!
>
>
Also (since we are a European travel group):
Joyeux No�l, Frohe Weinachten, Buon Natale, Feliz Navidad ....(etc.)
>
>
>Stephen Ellenson wrote:
>>..... to rec.travel.europe, one and all!
>Also (since we are a European travel group):
>
>Joyeux No�l, Frohe Weinachten [...]
...and since it's Christmas, we don't mind spelling errors.
--
Erick
>...and since it's Christmas, we don't mind
>spelling errors.
Your right:).
Regards, Walter
twftarm
? Blame my various phrase books - I copied their spelling.
>and since it's Christmas, we don't mind
>spelling errors.
Poetic Justice wrote;
>Your right:).
Magda wrote;
>HIS right?? Or his left? His left what?
>(I do mind!)
Note the smilely face.
The error was intentional.
And guess who the joke was aimed at:).
Regards, Walter
..And Paradise Was Lost...like teardrops in the rain...
In that case, you probably want to return those phrase books and demand
your money back.
--
Erick
'N Ddedwydd Nadolig!
Surreyman
Magda wrote;
>Yeah, keep saying that.
No, once is enough thank you.
But you *oddly* left out the 3rd line?
"And guess who the joke was aimed at:)".
>I'm listening. We are all listening.
Very well, here it comes.
You are so predictable, which makes the joke so much the better as you
fell for it 'hook, line and sinker':).
I knew you would *immediately* respond to my 1st post because of the
'your' for 'you're'.
And I knew you *never* would accept the explaination of my 2nd post
because the joke was about you and you have no sense of humor about
yourself (towards others yes but in a mean way).
So at the bottom of my 1st post I added these letters 'twftarm' which
you also quoted in your 1st response.
And to copy your posting style over the years (which I won't get into)
I will leave out two words to let you or the others listening try to
figure out.
Hint; It's a term and not vulgar.
*That *Was *For *The *A *R *Magda.
Years ago when this board was still somewhat active with the regular
posters there would have been no need to explain my 1st post, they would
have gotten the joke right-off:).
Goodbye...~Walter
Nollaig chridheil!!
Care to elaborate? The only one I was unsure of was the German (I have
always used "fr�liche Weinachten", but assumed Berlitz knew better.)
>
>
>Erick T. Barkhuis wrote:
>>EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque):
>>
>>>
>>>Erick T. Barkhuis wrote:
>>>>EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque):
>>>>>Joyeux No�l, Frohe Weinachten [...]
>>>>...and since it's Christmas, we don't mind spelling errors.
>>>? Blame my various phrase books - I copied their spelling.
>>
>>In that case, you probably want to return those phrase books and
>>demand your money back.
>
>Care to elaborate? The only one I was unsure of was the German (I
>have always used "fr�liche Weinachten", but assumed Berlitz knew
>better.)
Frohe Weihnachten is more common than fr�hliche Weihnachten, yes.
But mind the use of the letter "h".
And I believe it's "joyeux No�l".
--
Erick
>Care to complete/correct my list?
>DUTCH: Zalig Kerstfeest en een Gelukkig Nieukjaar.
...Nieuwjaar
>GERMAN: Frohliche Weihnachten und ein Glueckliches Neues Jahr.
Fr�hliche (or: Frohe) Weihnachten und ein gl�ckliches neues Jahr.
--
Erick
Yeah, you're right about the umlaut e - my apologies to all my
francophone friends to who I sent my greetings in French. Also my
apologies for the missing "h" in Weihnachten - my "spell-check" only
deals with American English. (It strongly objects when I use an "iour"
ending to a word which only uses "ior" here, too - like
behavior/behaviour.) Consequently, I don't always proofread my English
as well as I should, either.
you forgot Klingon
QISmaS DatIvjaj 'ej DIS chu' DatIvjaj
> PORTUGUESE: Feliz Natal e Pr�spero Ano Novo.
> RAPA-NUI (Easter Island): Mata-Ki-Te-Rangi. Te-Pito-O-Te-Henua.
> ROMANIAN: Sarbatori Fericite. La Multi Ani.
> RUSSIAN: Pozdrevly ayu sprazdnikom Rozhdestva Khristova is Novim Godom.
> UKRANIAN: Veselykh Svyat i scaslivoho Novoho Roku.
> SAMOAN: La Maunia Le Kilisimasi Ma Le Tausaga Fou.
> SLOVAK: Vesele Vianoce. A stastlivy Novy Rok.
> SERB-CROATIAN: Sretam Bozic. Vesela Nova Godina.
> SINGHALESE (Ceylon/Sri Lanka): Subha nath thalak Vewa. Subha Aluth
> Awrudhak Vewa.
> SLOVENE: Vesele Bozicne. Screcno Novo Leto.
> SPANISH: Feliz Navidad y prospero Ano Nuevo.
> SWEDISH: Glad jul och ett gott Nytt ar.
> TAGALOG (Filipino): Maligayamg Pasko. Masaganang Bagong Taon.
> THAI: Suk Sun+ Wan Christmas Ka. Sawaddee Pee Mai.
> TURKISH: Yeni Yilnizi Kutar, saadetler dilerim.
> WELSH: Nadolic Llawen. Blwyddn Newdd Dda.
> VIETNAMESE: Chu/c Mu*`ng Gia/ng Sinh va` Mo^.t Na(m Mo*/i Vui Ve~
Afrikaans: Gese�nde Kersfees
Afrikander: Een Plesierige Kerfees
African/ Eritrean/ Tigrinja: Rehus-Beal-Ledeats
Albanian:Gezur Krislinjden
Arabic: Milad Majid
Argentine: Feliz Navidad
Armenian: Shenoraavor Nor Dari yev Pari Gaghand
Azeri: Tezze Iliniz Yahsi Olsun
Bahasa Malaysia: Selamat Hari Natal
Basque: Zorionak eta Urte Berri On!
Bengali: Shuvo Naba Barsha
Bohemian: Vesele Vanoce
Bosnian: (BOSANSKI) Cestit Bozic i Sretna Nova godina
Brazilian: Feliz Natal
Breton: Nedeleg laouen na bloavezh mat
Bulgarian: Tchestita Koleda; Tchestito Rojdestvo Hristovo
Catalan: Bon Nadal i un Bon Any Nou!
Chile: Feliz Navidad
Chinese: (Cantonese) Gun Tso Sun Tan'Gung Haw Sun
Chinese: (Mandarin) Kung His Hsin Nien bing Chu Shen Tan
Choctaw: Yukpa, Nitak Hollo Chito
Columbia: Feliz Navidad y Pr�spero A�o Nuevo
Cornish: Nadelik looan na looan blethen noweth
Corsian: Pace e salute
Crazanian: Rot Yikji Dol La Roo
Cree: Mitho Makosi Kesikansi
Croatian: Sretan Bozic
Czech: Prejeme Vam Vesele Vanoce a stastny Novy Rok
Danish: Gl�delig Jul
Duri: Christmas-e- Shoma Mobarak
Dutch: Vrolijk Kerstfeest en een Gelukkig Nieuwjaar! or Zalig Kerstfeast
English: Merry Christmas
Eskimo: (inupik) Jutdlime pivdluarit ukiortame pivdluaritlo!
Esperanto: Gajan Kristnaskon
Estonian: R��msaid J�ulup�hi
Ethiopian: (Amharic) Melkin Yelidet Beaal
Faeroese: Gledhilig jol og eydnurikt nyggjar!
Farsi: Cristmas-e-shoma mobarak bashad
Finnish: Hyvaa joulua
Flemish: Zalig Kerstfeest en Gelukkig nieuw jaar
French: Joyeux Noel
Frisian: Noflike Krystdagen en in protte Lok en Seine yn it Nije Jier!
Galician: Bo Nada
Gaelic: Nollaig chridheil agus Bliadhna mhath �r!
German: Fr�hliche Weihnachten
Greek: Kala Christouyenna!
Haiti: (Creole) Jwaye Nowel or to Jesus Edo Bri'cho o Rish D'Shato Brichto
Hausa: Barka da Kirsimatikuma Barka da Sabuwar Shekara!
Hawaiian: Mele Kalikimaka
Hebrew: Mo'adim Lesimkha. Chena tova
Hindi: Shub Naya Baras (good New Year not Merry Christmas)
Hungarian: Kellemes Karacsonyi unnepeket
Icelandic: Gledileg Jol
Indonesian: Selamat Hari Natal
Iraqi: Idah Saidan Wa Sanah Jadidah
Irish: Nollaig Shona Dhuit, or Nodlaig mhaith chugnat
Iroquois: Ojenyunyat Sungwiyadeson honungradon nagwutut. Ojenyunyat osrasay.
Italian: Buone Feste Natalizie
Japanese: Shinnen omedeto. Kurisumasu Omedeto
Jiberish: Mithag Crithagsigathmithags
Korean: Sung Tan Chuk Ha
Lao: souksan van Christmas
Latin: Natale hilare et Annum Faustum!
Latvian: Prieci'gus Ziemsve'tkus un Laimi'gu Jauno Gadu!
Lausitzian:Wjesole hody a strowe nowe leto
Lettish: Priecigus Ziemassvetkus
Lithuanian: Linksmu Kaledu
Low Saxon: Heughliche Winachten un 'n moi Nijaar
Luxembourgish: Sch�ine Chreschtdaag an e gudde Rutsch
Macedonian: Sreken Bozhik
Maltese: IL-Milied It-tajjeb
Manx: Nollick ghennal as blein vie noa
Maori: Meri Kirihimete
Marathi: Shub Naya Varsh (good New Year not Merry Christmas)
Navajo: Merry Keshmish
Norwegian: God Jul, or Gledelig Jul
Occitan: Pulit nadal e bona annado
Papiamento: Bon Pasco
Papua New Guinea: Bikpela hamamas blong dispela Krismas na Nupela yia i go
long yu
Pennsylvania German: En frehlicher Grischtdaag un en hallich Nei Yaahr!
Peru: Feliz Navidad y un Venturoso A�o Nuevo
Philippines: Maligayang Pasko!
Polish: Wesolych Swiat Bozego Narodzenia or Boze Narodzenie
Portuguese:Feliz Natal
Pushto: Christmas Aao Ne-way Kaal Mo Mobarak Sha
Rapa-Nui (Easter Island): Mata-Ki-Te-Rangi. Te-Pito-O-Te-Henua
Rhetian: Bellas festas da nadal e bun onn
Romanche: (sursilvan dialect): Legreivlas fiastas da Nadal e bien niev onn!
Rumanian: Sarbatori vesele or Craciun fericit
Russian: Pozdrevlyayu s prazdnikom Rozhdestva is Novim Godom
Sami: Buorrit Juovllat
Samoan: La Maunia Le Kilisimasi Ma Le Tausaga Fou
Sardinian: Bonu nadale e prosperu annu nou
Scots Gaelic: Nollaig chridheil huibh
Serbian: Hristos se rodi.
Singhalese: Subha nath thalak Vewa. Subha Aluth Awrudhak Vewa
Slovak: Vesele Vianoce. A stastlivy Novy Rok
Slovene: Vesele Bozicne Praznike Srecno Novo Leto or Vesel Bozic in srecno
Novo leto
Spanish: Feliz Navidad
Swedish: God Jul and (Och) Ett Gott Nytt �r
Tagalog: Maligayamg Pasko. Masaganang Bagong Taon
Tamil: (Tamizh) Nathar Puthu Varuda Valthukkal (good New Year not Merry
Christmas)
Trukeese: (Micronesian) Neekiriisimas annim oo iyer seefe feyiyeech!
Thai: Sawadee Pee Mai or souksan wan Christmas
Turkish: Noeliniz Ve Yeni Yiliniz Kutlu Olsun
Ukrainian: Srozhdestvom Kristovym or Z RIZDVOM HRYSTOVYM
Urdu: Naya Saal Mubarak Ho (good New Year not Merry Christmas)
Vietnamese: Chuc Mung Giang Sinh
Welsh: Nadolig Llawen
Yoruba: E ku odun, e ku iye'dun!
Gerry
Afghani Saale Nao Mubbarak
Afrikaans Gelukkige nuwe jaar
Albanian Gezuar Vitin e Ri
Arabic Antum salimoun
Armenian Snorhavor Nor Tari
Assyrian Sheta Brikhta
Azeri Yeni Iliniz Mubarek!
Bengali Shuvo Nabo Barsho
Cambodian Soursdey Chhnam Tmei
Catalan FELI� ANY NOU
Chinese Chu Shen Tan / Xin Nian Kuai Le
Corsican Language Pace e Salute
Croatian Sretna Nova godina!
Cymraeg (Welsh) Blwyddyn Newydd Dda
Czechoslovakia Scastny Novy Rok
Danish Godt Nyt�r
Dhivehi Ufaaveri Aa Aharakah Edhen
Dutch Gellikig Nieuwjaar
Eskimo Kiortame pivdluaritlo
Esperanto Felican Novan Jaron
Estonians Head uut aastat!
Ethiopian Melkam addis amet yihuneliwo
Finnish Onnellista Uutta Vuotta
French Bonne Annee
Gaelic Bliadhna mhath ur
German Prosit Neujahr
Greek Kenourios Chronos
Gujarati Nutan Varshbhinandan
Hawaiian Hauoli Makahiki Hou
Hebrew L'Shannah Tovah
Hindi Nav varsh ka shubkamnayein
Hong Kong (Cantonese) Sun Leen Fai Lok
Hungarian Boldog Ooy Ayvet
Indonesian Selamat Tahun Baru
Iranian Saleh now mobarak
Iraqi Sanah Jadidah
Irish Bliain nua fe mhaise dhuit
Italian Felice anno nuovo
Japanese Akimashite Omedetto Gozaimasu
Kabyle Asegwas Amegaz
Kannada Hosa Varushadha Shubhashayagalu
Kisii Sonwaka Omoyia Omuya
Khmer Sua Sdei tfnam tmei
Korea Saehae Bock Mani ba deu sei yo!
Kurdish Newroz Pirozbe
Lithuanian Laimingu Naujuju Metu
Laotian Sabai dee pee mai
Macedonian Srekjna Nova Godina
Malay Selamat Tahun Baru
Marathi Nveen Varshachy Shubhechcha
Malayalam Puthuvatsara Aashamsakal
Maltese Is-Sena t- Tajba
Nepal Nawa Barsha ko Shuvakamana
Norwegian Godt Nytt�r
Papua New Guinea Nupela yia i go long yu
Pashto Nawai Kall Mo Mubarak Shah
Persian Saleh now ra tabrik migouyam
Philippines Manigong Bagong Taon
Polish Szczesliwego Nowego Roku
Portuguese Feliz Ano Novo
Punjabi Nave sal di mubarakan
Romanian An Nou Fericit
Russian S Novim Godom
Samoa Manuia le Tausaga Fou
Serbo-Croatian Sretna nova godina
Sindhi Nayou Saal Mubbarak Hoje
Singhalese Subha Aluth Awrudhak Vewa
Siraiki Nawan Saal Shala Mubarak Theevay
Slovak A stastlivy Novy Rok
Slovenian sre�no novo leto
Somali Iyo Sanad Cusub Oo Fiican!
Spanish Feliz Ano ~Nuevo
Swahili Heri Za Mwaka Mpya�
Swedish Gott nytt �r!
Sudanese Warsa Enggal
Tamil Eniya Puthandu Nalvazhthukkal
Telegu Noothana samvatsara shubhakankshalu
Thai Sawadee Pee Mai
Turkish Yiliniz Kutlu Olsun
Ukrainian Shchastlyvoho Novoho Roku
Urdu Naya Saal Mubbarak Ho
Vietnamese Chuc Mung Tan Nien
Uzbek Yangi Yil Bilan
Gerry
In your list further up you had already incorporated it, as in "Merry
Christmas and Happy New Year;
In Irish, (agus =and) Dutch and Flemish (en = and)
Nollaig Shona (Duit) is more common place in Irish; see
http://www.smaointe.com/card-shop-page28583.html for variations. or
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_Irish_Gaelic_for_%27Merry_Christmas%27&alreadyAsked=1&rtitle=How_do_Irish_people_say_Merry_Christmas
for pronounciation and responses, but why they put a "h" in "duit" I
don't know.
Season's Greetings.
Michael
http://cannes-or-bust.com/
> gotten
gotten? !
:-)
--
Tim C.
> Erick T. Barkhuis wrote:
>> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque):
>>
>>>
>>> Erick T. Barkhuis wrote:
>>>> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque):
>>>>
>>>>> Stephen Ellenson wrote:
>>>>>> ..... to rec.travel.europe, one and all!
>>>>> Also (since we are a European travel group):
>>>>>
>>>>> Joyeux No�l, Frohe Weinachten [...]
>>>> ...and since it's Christmas, we don't mind spelling errors.
>>> ? Blame my various phrase books - I copied their spelling.
>>
>> In that case, you probably want to return those phrase books and demand
>> your money back.
>
> Care to elaborate? The only one I was unsure of was the German (I have
> always used "fr�liche Weinachten", but assumed Berlitz knew better.)
A bit out of date, as "Weihnachten" finished yesterday...but it's the
difference between "happy" and "merry". There isn't just one Christmas
greeting you know. You can say what you like. Sch�ne, sinnliche...
--
Tim C.
> On 25 Dec, 18:18, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
> <evgm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Stephen Ellenson wrote:
>>> ..... to rec.travel.europe, one and all!
>>
>> Also (since we are a European travel group):
>>
>> Joyeux No�l, Frohe Weinachten, Buon Natale, Feliz Navidad ....(etc.)
>
> 'N Ddedwydd Nadolig!
>
> Surreyman
Diolch!
--
Tim C.
>On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 11:43:46 -0700, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
>wrote in post : <news:hh5lh...@news1.newsguy.com> :
>
>> Care to elaborate? The only one I was unsure of was the German (I
>>have always used "fr�liche Weinachten", but assumed Berlitz knew
>>better.)
>
>A bit out of date, as "Weihnachten" finished yesterday...but it's the
>difference between "happy" and "merry". There isn't just one
>Christmas greeting you know. You can say what you like. Sch�ne,
>sinnliche...
Same to you, Tim.
Actually, it was not really the phrase, but rather the spelling I was
bickering about. "Fr�liche Weinachten" appears to be typed on a
keyboard which has its letter 'h' damaged, because someone poured
Gl�wein [:-)] into it.
--
Erick
lol! It appens, you know. It's tat time of year. :-)
--
Tim C.
> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 19:35:43 +1100, Tim C. wrote
> (in article <kgmr3h8bf048.a...@40tude.net>):
> We don't pick 'taters, we don't pick gotten....
I had to read that three times before I got it :-)
--
Tim C.
>gotten? !
> :-)
But we have gotten that word from you people:-). Regards, Walter
www.miketodd.net/encyc/gotten.htm
"Gotten
Just seeing the word is enough to set the hair of some British English
speakers on end.
Yet, despite the many claims that it is an Americanism, it is most
definitely of British origin and the Oxford English Dictionary traces
its first use to the 4th century.
Since then, it has been used by many notable British English writers,
including Shakespeare, Bacon and Pope and it was one of a number of
words that were transported across the Atlantic with the settlers.
But then it slipped out of use in British English, along with such
words as fall for "autumn" (British English having opted to adopt the
French word) and guess in the sense of "think".
This has led to the less-informed criticising it as a "heinous
Americanism", despite its British origin - yet I'm sure such people
quite happily use words and phrases like belittle, cold snap, bark up
the wrong tree and lengthy, despite these being true Americanisms.
The problem, as I see it, is that British English has failed to come to
terms with the verb "get". Pedagogues have, for the past century or so,
treated its derivative, got with some disdain, largely because it was
heavily overused.
And once gotten was eschewed, the only choice for the past participle
was got, which just made matters worse.
The Americans seem to have tamed the verb, sometimes missing it out
altogether (which is in stark contrast to their making sure that that is
included in sentences such as "this is the book that I bought", whereas
British English would more commonly say "this is the book I bought").
Mark Twain pointed out to an Englishman once: You say, "I haven't got
any stockings on", "I haven't got any memory", "I haven't got any money
in my purse"; we usually say "I haven't any stockings on", "I haven't
any memory", "I haven't any money in my purse".
Yet Americans do generally maintain the past and preterite participles,
and in so doing have helped ease the discomfort of got and allowed it to
resume its place in the various meanings of acquired, received or
become.
Curiously, one of the reasons why gotten got (!) such a bad press in
British English was John Galsworthy's failure to actually understand how
it was used in America, believing (and writing) that all Americans used
gotten instead of got on all occasions, which is simply not correct.
In "Maid In Waiting", for instance, Galsworthy puts the words "I fear
you've gotten a grouch against me, Miss Cherrell" into the mouth of
Professor Hallorsen, yet no educated American would ever have used it in
this way, unless they specifically meant that they had "acquired" a
grouch (which is not the case here).
And this abuse of the word must have rankled even more, and reinforced
the prejudice against the word.
But don't think for one minute that Americans are universally
comfortable with gotten, for even on the other side of the Atlantic it
is, these days, seen as somewhat vulgar and not to be used in proper
speech or formal writing.
Despite our hatred of the word, British English does preserve it in
aspic ... in ill-gotten. And then there are the parallel constructions
of forgotten and the rather archaic begotten.
Personally, I would be quite happy to see the word reappear in British
English. It would help take the strain off the over-worked "got", and
allow some flexibility in construction.
However, the fact that some British English speakers go apoplectic when
gotten is used, I don't see it happening any day soon".
>>gotten? !
>>����:-)
>
> But we have gotten that word from you people:-).
I know. And we moved on. :)
--
Tim C.