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D

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Aug 21, 2004, 10:08:24 AM8/21/04
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Hey all:

I will be crossing Europe
(Norway/Estonia/Latvia/Lithuania/Poland/Germany/France/UK) in October and
November, but I do not know my schedule yet. In fact, I will probably
decise as I go along.

My question is whether buying tickets on the go would be much more expensive
than reserving and pre-purchasing long in advance. I know its a general
question, but what do you all think?

Daniel


bobz

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Aug 21, 2004, 10:57:14 AM8/21/04
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> Hey all:
>
> I will be crossing Europe
> (Norway/Estonia/Latvia/Lithuania/Poland/Germany/France/UK) in October
> and
> November, but I do not know my schedule yet. In fact, I will probably
> decise as I go along.
>
> My question is whether buying tickets on the go would be much more ex-
> pensive
> than reserving and pre-purchasing long in advance. I know its a gene-

> ral
> question, but what do you all think?
>
> Daniel

Get a European train pass jobby, save a fortune, and if you know your
times, book...they can be bloody long slogs on the train waiting in the
corridors with out air con otherwise....

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Thomas

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Aug 21, 2004, 11:09:28 AM8/21/04
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> Get a European train pass jobby, save a fortune, and if you know your
> times, book...they can be bloody long slogs on the train waiting in the
> corridors with out air con otherwise....

Yes I remember spending 61/2 hours standing between Rome and Pisa in the
August heat no air con, and barely enough standing room. It pays to book
ahead if you travel at weekends.

D

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Aug 21, 2004, 11:14:31 AM8/21/04
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"bobz" <member27413@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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Thanks...

Which trainpass would cover Estonia/Latvia/Lithuania/Poland?


bobz

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Aug 21, 2004, 12:16:50 PM8/21/04
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> "bobz" <member27413@british_expats.com> wrote in message
> news:44$250114$1614719$10931...@britishexpats.com...
> > > Hey all:
> > >
> > > I will be crossing Europe
> > > (Norway/Estonia/Latvia/Lithuania/Poland/Germany/France/UK) in Oct-
> > > ober
> > > and
> > > November, but I do not know my schedule yet. In fact, I will pro-

> > > bably
> > > decise as I go along.
> > >
> > > My question is whether buying tickets on the go would be much more
> > > ex-
> > > pensive
> > > than reserving and pre-purchasing long in advance. I know its a
> > > gene-
> > > ral
> > > question, but what do you all think?
> > >
> > > Daniel
> > Get a European train pass jobby, save a fortune, and if you know yo-

> > ur
> > times, book...they can be bloody long slogs on the train waiting in
> > the
> > corridors with out air con otherwise....
>
> Thanks...
>
> Which trainpass would cover Estonia/Latvia/Lithuania/Poland?

Do a google...I wouldn't know bout that side of Europe I'm afriad...

bobz

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Aug 21, 2004, 12:18:36 PM8/21/04
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> On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 14:57:14 +0000, bobz
> <member27413@british_expats.com> wrote:
>
> >> Hey all:
> >> I will be crossing Europe
> >> (Norway/Estonia/Latvia/Lithuania/Poland/Germany/France/UK) in Octo-
> >> ber
> >> and
> >> November, but I do not know my schedule yet. In fact, I will prob-

> >> ably
> >> decise as I go along.
> >> My question is whether buying tickets on the go would be much more
> >> ex-
> >> pensive
> >> than reserving and pre-purchasing long in advance. I know its a
> >> gene-
> >> ral
> >> question, but what do you all think?
> >> Daniel
> >Get a European train pass jobby, save a fortune, and if you know your
> >times, book...they can be bloody long slogs on the train waiting in
> >the
> >corridors with out air con otherwise....
>
> Standing in corridors on German/Swiss night trains is forbidden
> because "standing passengers constitute a fire risk" Tell that to UK
> train operators.

There also nicer trains in those countries, so it's less of a problem,
but them other countries....going to be a bit crowded with the standing
room ain't it.

Owain

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Aug 21, 2004, 12:48:44 PM8/21/04
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"D" wrote

For the UK for longer distances you can make significant savings by buying
in advance, but the cheapest tickets are only valid on the train for which
they are issued and are no change of travel and no refund. They are also
limited in availability and sell out quickly.

For example, a return London Kings Cross -- Edinburgh can theoretically be
had for GBP 25 whereas a Saver Return is GBP 87 and a Standard Open return
is GBP 186.

Owain


Hatunen

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Aug 22, 2004, 7:59:04 PM8/22/04
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 14:57:14 +0000, bobz
<member27413@british_expats.com> wrote:

Passes rarely save you money over going up to the ticket booth
and buying ticekts. Most of the railways have a number of
cut-rate tickets availablr. In this case there are no passes
covering the entire journey.

************* DAVE HATUNEN (hat...@cox.net) *************
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Hatunen

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Aug 22, 2004, 7:59:39 PM8/22/04
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And seat reservations can be well worth it.

Hatunen

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Aug 22, 2004, 8:00:07 PM8/22/04
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There are none.

Lennart Petersen

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Aug 22, 2004, 9:16:37 PM8/22/04
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"D" <kap...@hotmail.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:rFJVc.22075918$Id.36...@news.easynews.com...
No railpass any longer for Estonia/Latvia/Lithuania since the Baltic card is
discontinued.
For Poland there's Interrail and EuroDomino (for people residing in Europe)
and the local bought "Bilet Turyestyczny " (regional trains on Sa and Su) or
the "Bilet Weekendowny" (IC,EC,Express trains from Fri 18:00 to Su 18:00)


Daniel

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Aug 23, 2004, 2:35:51 AM8/23/04
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"Hatunen" <hatu...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Exactly. Hence my question.


jenn

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Aug 23, 2004, 11:14:12 AM8/23/04
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Hatunen wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 16:09:28 +0100, "Thomas"
> <ted_mau...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>>Get a European train pass jobby, save a fortune, and if you know your
>>>times, book...they can be bloody long slogs on the train waiting in the
>>>corridors with out air con otherwise....
>>
>>Yes I remember spending 61/2 hours standing between Rome and Pisa in the
>>August heat no air con, and barely enough standing room. It pays to book
>>ahead if you travel at weekends.
>>
>
> And seat reservations can be well worth it.

we have found thhe most convenient way to book is through local travel
agents who can issue the tickets, make reserved seats, get the best
deals and you can also spare yourself the half hour lines at most train
stations and then the short tempered ticket sales person who is not
about to give you a diquisition on the best deals

Hatunen

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Aug 23, 2004, 11:15:51 AM8/23/04
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 10:14:12 -0500, jenn <je...@hmplce.com> wrote:

>Hatunen wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 16:09:28 +0100, "Thomas"
>> <ted_mau...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Get a European train pass jobby, save a fortune, and if you know your
>>>>times, book...they can be bloody long slogs on the train waiting in the
>>>>corridors with out air con otherwise....
>>>
>>>Yes I remember spending 61/2 hours standing between Rome and Pisa in the
>>>August heat no air con, and barely enough standing room. It pays to book
>>>ahead if you travel at weekends.
>>>
>>
>> And seat reservations can be well worth it.
>
>we have found thhe most convenient way to book is through local travel
>agents who can issue the tickets, make reserved seats, get the best
>deals and you can also spare yourself the half hour lines at most train
>stations and then the short tempered ticket sales person who is not
>about to give you a diquisition on the best deals

And I've found there are times of day when the queues in the rail
stations are minimal. So I try to drop by a station first chance
I get while out and about.

Martin Bienwald

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Aug 23, 2004, 1:22:47 PM8/23/04
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> I will be crossing Europe
> (Norway/Estonia/Latvia/Lithuania/Poland/Germany/France/UK) in October and
> November, but I do not know my schedule yet. In fact, I will probably
> decise as I go along.

There are no train connections between Estonia and Latvia any more, and
only very limited train connections between Latvia and Lithuania.

> My question is whether buying tickets on the go would be much more expensive
> than reserving and pre-purchasing long in advance.

Probably not. Especially, buying train tickets for Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania
and Poland is more expensive if you do it from abroad AFAIK.

Trains are not heavily used in the Baltic countries, so you can expect to
get a seat reservation (which is compulsory and included in the ticket)
on the spot.

In Germany, advance booking is only cheaper for return tickets. As you
seem to need one-way-tickets, you can buy them on the go anyway. Tickets
bought from touch-screen ticket machines include a free seat reservation.

France has special offers (called "Prems") available on the Internet
(www.voyages-sncf.com).

I don't know much about today's fares in UK - probably a rail pass would be
your best bet there.

... Martin

testma...@gmail.com

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