Ship Gets Stuck in Antarctic Ice!
Ray Goldenberg
I saw this article on the AFP news service. Fortunately a BBC TV crew
is onboard. It should be fascinating video.
http://bit.ly/4ACbnv
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love to go on one before this ship's retirement in 2012.
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Gettamulla Tupya
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I saw this article on the AFP news service. Fortunately a BBC TV crew
> is onboard. It should be fascinating video.
> http://bit.ly/4ACbnv
> For the adventurous, Quark Expeditions offers these cruises. I would
> love to go on one before this ship's retirement in 2012.
So much for global warming.
Joseph Coulter
It is global warming that gets ices flows moving around. sometimes
they then shove up to land and trap things
Joseph Coulter
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Brian K
on ice off Antarctica. This happened to a ship last Antarctic Summer.
Maybe the same ship and captain. In which case, it's a no go. Perhaps
it's the same captain as the one on the Exxon Valdez?
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Gettamulla Tupya
> > So much for global warming.
> >
> >
> Global Warming is real.
Global warming is a natural phenomena. Mankind has nothing to do with it. What governments won't say is that it is an excellent
way of raising vast sums of money from an unsuspecting public.
Gettamulla Tupya
> > Global warming is a natural phenomena. Mankind has nothing to do with it.
> > What governments won't say is that it is an excellent
> > way of raising vast sums of money from an unsuspecting public.
>
> But those events occur over multi-thousands, and multi-millions of years
Actually, the climate immediately preceding and proceeding an ice age changes quite rapidly over just a few years.
> What you can't deny, however (unless you put your head in the ground and go
> into denial), is that we (the human species) are doing is an unatural
> warming due to the massive addition of greenhouse gasses (like carbon
> dioxide) to our atmosphere resulting from human activity such as fossil fuel
> burning and deforestation. We are doing things to our atmosphere to trap
> heat and not let it escape (that's science, not politics), just like the
> atmosphere of Venus does. Only on Venus it went totally out of control.
> The main atmospheric gases on Venus are carbon dioxide and nitrogen. So we
> know what carbon dioxide in an atmosphere does.
You can't compare Venus to Earth. Venus has an atmosphere consisting of 96.5% carbon dioxide, 3.5% nitrogen. And they had no
humans there to add to the atmosphere.
> Would we be in a natural warming cycle if there were't any people on earth?
> I'm not sure if anybody can actually answer that, because there are people
> here. But are we CONTRIBUTING to the problem by creating extra greenhouse
> gasses in large amounts? The scientific answer is yes. Just look at all
> our cars, and everything else burning fossel fuels (which create carbon
> dioxide). Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas (scientific fact, you can't
> deny that), and we're producing unatural quantities of carbon dioxide
Carbon dioxide is a poor greenhouse gas, and at around 0.0380%, its' effects on our planet are insignificant.
> (again, a scientific fact, you can't deny that either). Therefore, by
> definition, since we are creating excess greenhouse gasses that contribute
> to global warming, we (mankind) are contributing to global warming.
>
> If you think mankind has nothing to do with it, then tell me what part of
> what I just said is wrong.
Just about everything.
Some interesting reading at:-
Dean Worrell
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:38:36 -0500, "Tom K" <tkan...@optonline.net> wrote:
<snip>
>> What you can't deny, however (unless you put your head in the ground and go
>> into denial), is that we (the human species) are doing is an unatural
>> warming due to the massive addition of greenhouse gasses (like carbon
>> dioxide) to our atmosphere resulting from human activity such as fossil fuel
>> burning and deforestation. We are doing things to our atmosphere to trap
>> heat and not let it escape (that's science, not politics), just like the
>> atmosphere of Venus does. Only on Venus it went totally out of control.
>> The main atmospheric gases on Venus are carbon dioxide and nitrogen. So we
>> know what carbon dioxide in an atmosphere does.
>
> You can't compare Venus to Earth. Venus has an atmosphere consisting of 96.5% carbon dioxide, 3.5% nitrogen. And they had no
> humans there to add to the atmosphere.
Plus the amount of atmosphere on Venus is, according to Wikipedia, 93
times that on Earth.
>> Would we be in a natural warming cycle if there were't any people on earth?
>> I'm not sure if anybody can actually answer that, because there are people
>> here. But are we CONTRIBUTING to the problem by creating extra greenhouse
>> gasses in large amounts? The scientific answer is yes. Just look at all
>> our cars, and everything else burning fossel fuels (which create carbon
>> dioxide). Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas (scientific fact, you can't
>> deny that), and we're producing unatural quantities of carbon dioxide
>
> Carbon dioxide is a poor greenhouse gas, and at around 0.0380%, its' effects on our planet are insignificant.
Other gases have stronger "greenhouse" effects--namely water vapor.
>> (again, a scientific fact, you can't deny that either). Therefore, by
>> definition, since we are creating excess greenhouse gasses that contribute
>> to global warming, we (mankind) are contributing to global warming.
>>
>> If you think mankind has nothing to do with it, then tell me what part of
>> what I just said is wrong.
The Earth's geologic record shows that the level of CO2 in the
atmosphere has risen hundreds of years after, not before, the periods of
warming. One would have to deduce that increases in CO2 has been a
result of warming not vice versa.
Regards,
Dean in Peoria
Tom K
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