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Duck

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Aug 2, 2004, 12:02:57 PM8/2/04
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Or is there a on line site that someone would let me know where to buy
art .

Thanks

jcoulter

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Aug 2, 2004, 1:39:13 PM8/2/04
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Duck <buffduc...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> Or is there a on line site that someone would let me know where to buy
> art .
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> Thanks

Learn what is being sold. Buy only what you really want to hang on your
walls. Do not buy for investment. realize that the "original" part of the
art is often a technical term as in Original Seriograph.

Know what you want and what is out there Find out what a Treby or whoever
is running from a realiable local dealer then make sure you are buying
apples to apples. Great deals are out there, but only for those who have
done their homework

its_my_dime

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Aug 2, 2004, 4:43:03 PM8/2/04
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This discussion has appeared here before.

"Art" is a profit center for the ship...just like shore excursions, the
casino, the "suggested" bottle of wine at dinner", bingo, the photographer,
"gold by the inch" or even the mandatory service charge.... A way to get a
few (or a lot) more dollars from the passenger to offset the major discount
that the ship gave to get him on board.

The previous poster is absolutely correct.

What you are buying is wall decoration, nothing more. If you know what you
want and it seems to be reasonably competitive with what is at home...great!
If you think you are going to get some kind of bargain that you can turn
around and sell for several times what you paid for it...probably not.


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Aug 2, 2004, 5:23:22 PM8/2/04
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{Should I buy art on a cruise?]

In two words, probably not. Certainly not if "investment" is any part of
your motive to buy. On the other hand, if you see an image that really
"speaks" to you, and you want to pick up a cruise souvenir at [or above]
market value, go for it. Just don't think of your purchase as any kind of
bargain.

> ...on line site ... to buy art .

Frankly, I think you'd be far better off checking out the art galleries in
your area. It's hard to get a real feel for art on-line. At your local
galleries you'll get to see what's available "up close and personal"... and,
oddly enough, the prices are often not as inflated as you might think. Of
course, you might also try asking around about local artists... often
they'll be willing to sell outside of their galleries [if their contract
permits] at a lower than gallery price... and you'll get to know the person
who made the art in your home.

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Brian K

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Aug 2, 2004, 5:49:30 PM8/2/04
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On 08/02/2004 12:02 PM Duck while holding "tha lizard", exclaimed:

>Or is there a on line site that someone would let me know where to buy
>art .
>
>Thanks
>
>

Speaking as an artist, I say no do not buy art aboard a cruise ship.
Most of it is mass reproductions. Rather, support your local artists.
If there are no galleries close to you, then look for art fairs
organized by local art councils or colleges / universities. There's a
lot of us out here who haven't made a name for ourselves, produce some
amazing stuff and can use your patronage.

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RTCReferee

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Aug 2, 2004, 6:38:52 PM8/2/04
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Brian K brian...@earthlink.net wrote:

>Speaking as an artist, I say no do not buy art aboard a cruise ship.
>Most of it is mass reproductions. Rather, support your local artists.
>
>If there are no galleries close to you, then look for art fairs
>organized by local art councils or colleges / universities. There's a
>lot of us out here who haven't made a name for ourselves, produce some
>amazing stuff and can use your patronage.

I have five original oil paintings done by a local artist hanging on my walls,
and each of these paintings is superior to what I have seen for sale on cruise
ships.
As an added bonus, the champagne is better. :-)

BTC/TAK on ACK

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Aug 2, 2004, 7:04:25 PM8/2/04
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> ...There's a lot of us out here who haven't made a name for ourselves...

and can use your patronage.

Well, Brian, it may be that you just haven't made a name for yourself quite
yet.

I have a fairly decent collection of paintings, sculpture, etc., most of
which is the work of local artists. Luckily a fair number of the works I
bought from "unknowns" have become very desirable pieces to collectors of
local artists [some have literally soared in value, being now worth multiple
thousands for each hundred of their original cost]. But the real "value" of
the pieces I've collected over the years is that I loved them then, and
still do... the fact that so many have become desirable to collectors is
only an extra "perc".

It's always seemed to me that the best reason to buy a work of art is that
you love it. As an "investment" art is pretty speculative at best [I've been
unusually lucky in that respect]... I've often thought art "investors" might
just as well hang stock certificates in their homes.


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Tom & Linda

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Another great idea is to look for original artwork in the various ports that
they visit.

--Tom


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> Another great idea is to look for original artwork in the various ports
that they visit.

Actually snooping around in port's galleries can be great fun... and
occasionally turns up really nice work at very fair prices. I have a real
fondness for "naive" painters, and ports can be an excellent place to find
them... though one may "kiss a lot of frogs before finding a prince" in the
process. I've also found a few really lovely craft items in cruise ports...
which often have the double benefit of being both decorative and useful.


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Tom & Linda

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> > Another great idea is to look for original artwork in the various ports
> that they visit.
>
> Actually snooping around in port's galleries can be great fun... and
> occasionally turns up really nice work at very fair prices. I have a real
> fondness for "naive" painters, and ports can be an excellent place to find
> them... though one may "kiss a lot of frogs before finding a prince" in
the
> process. I've also found a few really lovely craft items in cruise
ports...
> which often have the double benefit of being both decorative and useful.
>

While the chances of something like this are astronomically remote, I flew
(back from Brazil) once with a guy who married a Russian girl and they spent
a lot of time wandering around in small galleries in Russia and actually
found and bought a small Rembrandt. Catherine the Great had the largest
collection of Rembrandts in the world, but Stalin sold many of them to
finance missiles. The gallery owner knew what he had, so it wasn't cheap by
any means, but still it had to be MUCH cheaper than if it was available at
Sotheby's.

--Tom


JLP20

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Aug 3, 2004, 1:07:44 AM8/3/04
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>Subject: Should I buy art on a cruise?

If you can find actual art that is not over priced, yes.

Overpriced prints, no.

Overpriced "collectibles" no.

Overpriced mass produced anything, no
"Anything that doesn't kill you,,,,,,,just hurts a hell of a lot" JLP20

Duck

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Aug 3, 2004, 9:11:49 AM8/3/04
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Will look for some local artists

Dillon Pyron

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Aug 3, 2004, 9:48:46 AM8/3/04
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On 02 Aug 2004 22:38:52 GMT, rtcre...@aol.commando (RTCReferee)
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I agree. Most of our art is original oil or water colors. We buy
them from a variety of sources. Amazingly, some have actually
appreciated in value. But that's not why we bought them.

>As an added bonus, the champagne is better. :-)

The galleries I usually shop at, it's Shiner Bock.

--
dillon

When I was a kid, I thought the angel's name was Hark
and the horse's name was Bob.

Clint

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Aug 4, 2004, 10:11:22 AM8/4/04
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There were lots of art for sale on the Royal Caribbean cruise that we took.
Don't think they were selling since nobody wanted to carry them. I don't
know if they had a shipping option.

Clint

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Sue and Kevin Mullen

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Clint wrote:
> There were lots of art for sale on the Royal Caribbean cruise that we took.
> Don't think they were selling since nobody wanted to carry them. I don't
> know if they had a shipping option.

If you buy art on a cruise, you can have it shipped home. Of course
there is a charge for shipping. There are some pcs that you have to
carry off the ship, but not many.

sue

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