Lego furniture
David Shaler
furniture for the minifigure sets. They have chairs and cabinets, and that's
it. Everything else has to be built with the lego pieces. I think it would
be really good if they can design one piece molded furniture. I have this
really big house, that keeps getting bigger and bigger as I keep adding on to
it with spare pieces. The one problem is, all the rooms are empty because
LEGO doesn't have furniture. I've been thinking of getting the TYCO mansion
with because it comes with tons of furniture, except it's in pink and that
doesn't go with the color scheme.
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David Karr
>I was wondering if LEGO anytime in the near future was planning on designing
>I've been thinking of getting the TYCO mansion
>with because it comes with tons of furniture, except it's in pink and that
>doesn't go with the color scheme.
I'd say the probability is fairly high that when (and if) LEGO comes
out with a wider selection of special pieces for household furniture,
they'll mostly be pink too.
-- David A. Karr (ka...@cs.cornell.edu)
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Tony Kilaras
>I was wondering if LEGO anytime in the near future was planning on
designing
that's
>it. Everything else has to be built with the lego pieces. I think it
would be
>really good if they can design one piece molded furniture.
[Now let's not open THAT can of worms again >;) ] Just use your
imagination. I have no problem making furniture for my Lego buildings. The
instructions for sets have some good ideas in them.
David Shaler
built with two or three pieces. What they did was just combine those pieces
together in one molded piece. Why'd they do that anyways??? Does it cut down
on cost?? I liked it better when the pieces were separate. You could do more
with them.
All and all LEGO is truly amazing in their mantaining of quality. alot of
products have become very cheap in the way they are made over the years, but
not LEGO. I compare a LEGO brick from when I first started building LEGO back
when I was like 4 years old back in 1979 and now, the quality of the plastic
and the brick itself is still almost just as good quality as my older bricks.
There definitely has been a slight decrease in quality though.
dulc...@cats.ucsc.edu
In article <3qgkmk$l...@glitnir.cs.cornell.edu> ka...@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr) writes:
>In article <3qg6v5$l...@stud.Direct.CA> dsh...@Direct.CA (David Shaler) writes:
>>I've been thinking of getting the TYCO mansion
>>with because it comes with tons of furniture, except it's in pink and that
>>doesn't go with the color scheme.
>
>I'd say the probability is fairly high that when (and if) LEGO comes
>out with a wider selection of special pieces for household furniture,
>they'll mostly be pink too.
This is an amusing anecdote, but it continues the fallacy in the group
that Paradisa sets are mostly pink pieces, when they really aren't.
The most pink that's in a Paradisa set is on the box. I've been pleasantly
surprised with the sets I've bought (all because of unbelievable sales),
as they have very few pink pieces, and lots of useful pieces that
are grey and white.
Now the Belville stuff... That's another story. Then you'd be talking
greens and purples though.
-- joshua
Karim Nassar
On 31 May 1995 dulc...@cats.ucsc.edu wrote:
> The most pink that's in a Paradisa set is on the box. I've been pleasantly
> surprised with the sets I've bought (all because of unbelievable sales),
> as they have very few pink pieces, and lots of useful pieces that
> are grey and white.
>
Yes, but they have those gawdawfull lime sherbet baseplates. I would
almost buy 6416 just for the baseplate. In a darker green, it would make
a wonderfull addition to my castle grounds, but as it is, the color would
destroy the dark, foreboding feel that I strive for in my castle setup.
--Karim
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The Nephilim
>I remember a time when alot of the now one piece pieces used to have to be
>built with two or three pieces. What they did was just combine those pieces
>together in one molded piece. Why'd they do that anyways??? Does it cut down
>on cost?? I liked it better when the pieces were separate. You could do more
>with them.
In some cases, the larger pieces that are made by combining two or more
smaller pieces are quite functional and useful in their own right.
Take the piece that could be duplicated by taking a 1x2 technic brick with
a hole in it, and filling the hole with a stud so you have a brick with a
peg jutting out. Nowadays you get this piece already preformed. And this
is a good thing for how it is used - to join modular sections of contruction
together. It's nice to be able to yank apart a big spaceship without worrying
which section the peg will adhere to, or if it will fall off entirely.
Or, take the 1x1x5 skinny building bricks. I like these when they are
appropriate.
What's an example of a new 'combo' piece that you don't like? I know I
have some at home that I think are pointless, but I can't recall what they
are.
>
>All and all LEGO is truly amazing in their mantaining of quality. alot of
>products have become very cheap in the way they are made over the years, but
>not LEGO. I compare a LEGO brick from when I first started building LEGO back
>when I was like 4 years old back in 1979 and now, the quality of the plastic
>and the brick itself is still almost just as good quality as my older bricks.
> There definitely has been a slight decrease in quality though.
I just retrieved a cartload of 1978-1979 LEGO from my parents house. I
notice no discernable difference in quality at all. I doubt if the formula of
the ABS plastic has changed or anything in the past 16 years.
Now, if I could just figure out how to get my discolored blue-green blocks
back to their pristine blue. Or if I could magically restore the logos
on the white space guys' chests.
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Eileen Keeney
: In some cases, the larger pieces that are made by combining two or more
: smaller pieces are quite functional and useful in their own right.
Like the 1x8 beam. It could be made with 1x1 and 1x2 plates
(and several other plate combinations).
Or even 1x1 bricks (if it didn't need to hold together by itself).
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David Karr
>What's an example of a new 'combo' piece that you don't like? I know I
>have some at home that I think are pointless, but I can't recall what they
>are.
OK, here's one of my pet peeves. There are some pieces that look like
this in cross-section:
__n_. ._n__
\ | | /
\ |_n___n_| /
\___________/
That's a piece one normal brick (9.6mm) high and four studs (32mm) long.
It has a depression in the middle so it has only 1 plate thickness there,
and 45-degree reverse slopes at both ends.
I actually have two versions of this piece, one that is two studs wide
(perpendicular to the diagram) and one that is four studs wide.
This piece isn't bad for making the bottoms of various vehicles---in
fact that's how I got all of mine---provided that the vehicle is only
four studs wide. I find four studs to be a very cramped width for a
vehicle, and rarely use it. Consequently this kind of piece is nearly
useless to me, and I'd resent it bitterly if I'd gotten it in a new
set rather than at a yard sale. (It's hard to feel much self-pity
over a few bad pieces when the price of the set was justified by the
included minifigures alone.)
Now it's true that in some of the models where this piece occurs, it
could not simply have been replaced by two opposing reverse slopes,
because the depression in the middle was necessary. But in all the
cases I've seen, the piece could have been replaced by two pieces
that look like this:
__n_. ._n__
\ | | /
\ |_n_. ._n_| /
\_____| |_____/
In fact that's just two copies of one smaller piece. Besided serving
just as well as before (the only difference being that in some models,
an extra plate might need to be added to the parts list to "sew up"
the bottom seam), this design would be usable in models that were a
little wider as well. It could be used in any model where you would
normally use a reverse slope piece, but need a little more interior
space. You could even stack the pieces to get a higher slope on the
outside while enjoying more space on the inside.
IMHO, the LEGO parts designers blew it big time with these particular
one-piece pieces, though they did a stunningly good job on many other
parts.
There are other pieces that are double top slopes with a groove
underneath that would likewise be improved by division into two
slope pieces with a step in the bottom. I could really have used
something like that for the fenders on one of my cars and for many
other disparate applications.
dulc...@cats.ucsc.edu
In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.950531155543.2852A-100000@ivy> Karim Nassar <kn@ivy> writes:
>
>
>On 31 May 1995 dulc...@cats.ucsc.edu wrote:
>
>> The most pink that's in a Paradisa set is on the box. I've been pleasantly
>> surprised with the sets I've bought (all because of unbelievable sales),
>> as they have very few pink pieces, and lots of useful pieces that
>> are grey and white.
>>
>
>Yes, but they have those gawdawfull lime sherbet baseplates. I would
>almost buy 6416 just for the baseplate. In a darker green, it would make
>a wonderfull addition to my castle grounds, but as it is, the color would
>destroy the dark, foreboding feel that I strive for in my castle setup.
Yes, the lime is pretty hideous, I'll agree with that. But let me talk
a bit about 6419 Rolling Acres Ranch for a little bit here...
I got this set on major sale (1/2 off the already marked down price of $14.95,
when the original price was $45.99). Had I not gotten that price, I would
not have gotten the sets.
Out of 357 pieces (box count), the following were pink:
1 1x1 Round Tile, Top Faucet
6 1x1 Plate
8 1x2 Plate
4 1x3 Plate
4 1x6 Plate
1 4x3 Double Wraparound Wing Plate
2 Squared Fence Element, 6 Stud Post-Span
7 Ridged Door with Handle
1 Mini-Figure Torso [Silver Horseshoe/Black Horse Decoration]
---
34 pieces
Not a predominance, by any means. Also to conted with:
1 Lime-Green 32x32 Baseplate, Grey Cobblestone road through middle
1 Lime-Green 16x32 Baseplate
3 or 4 pieces with palm trees and horsey decorations on them
However,the advantage is a bunch of cool pieces. Among the ones that
I bought it for:
1 Black Whip/Vine
1 Black Horse
1 White Horse
1 Brown Horse
1 Red Female Hair, Ponytail
1 Brown Female Hair, Ponytail
2 Clear Medium Technic Pulley
2 Black Technic O-Ring (Fits pulley above as wheel)
1 Yellow Horse Yoke/Harness (VERY interesting color for this piece)
2 Grey 6x6 Rounded-Corner Plate
4 Grey 8x6 Shallow Sloping Roof Brick
1 Grey 2x2 Cone, 2H
7 White 1x1 Tall Brick, Side Shutter Connects
3 Black Mini-Figure Backbucket
[I've got one or two of these with peasants in Castle sets,
now I got three all at once]
The assortment of grey plates and bricks, especially rounded over bricks
The assortment of white bricks, especially the arches and rounded over bricks
All the fences
Basically, it's a great parts source. I admit again that I would not
have bought it were it not for the great price, but I think the Paradisa
sets gets knocked too much for their pastel colors, which really aren't
that predominant (I also have 2 of 6411).
BTW, I bought the 6419 Rolling Acres Ranch (at full retail, groan) for
my sister for this past Christmas, and while in the past I'd bought
her the 6933 Spectral Starglider and 6270 Forbidden Island in past
years, I got the very best and most excited response THIS year for the
Rolling Acres Ranch. <sigh>
-- joshua
The Nephilim
>The Nephilim (je...@teubner.com) wrote:
>
>: In some cases, the larger pieces that are made by combining two or more
>: smaller pieces are quite functional and useful in their own right.
>
>Like the 1x8 beam. It could be made with 1x1 and 1x2 plates
>(and several other plate combinations).
>Or even 1x1 bricks (if it didn't need to hold together by itself).
>
Ha ha. :-) You could build any larger brick or plate out of one by one
plates, but .... :-)
I think I'll change 'in some cases' in my paragraph up there to 'in most
cases,' since I just can't think of a specialty piece that could also be
made from a few other elements that isn't pretty useful in its own right.
If the pieces are joined together to make a combo-piece, it's usually to
provide more strength than the pieces alone would provide. Right now
I'm thinking of one of my least favorite elements, the silly piece that is
used to make a small road vehicles:
(side view, not drawn with any accuracy to any particular scale at all)
----+ +-----
| |
+-----+
These annoy me, but for what they are designed to do, they are fine and
hold together better than the components that make the shape. But these
pieces are on the low end of my 'tolerance' scale for combo-pieces.
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David Karr
>I think I'll change 'in some cases' in my paragraph up there to 'in most
>cases,' since I just can't think of a specialty piece that could also be
>made from a few other elements that isn't pretty useful in its own right.
The condition "that could also be made from a few other elements"
really narrows the field if you take it quite literally. Hardly any
specialty pieces could be exactly duplicated merely by gluing together
other pieces.
>----+ +-----
> | |
> +-----+
>
>These annoy me, but for what they are designed to do, they are fine and
>hold together better than the components that make the shape. But these
>pieces are on the low end of my 'tolerance' scale for combo-pieces.
I have the above piece but haven't been able to use it much. I keep
finding that the depression in the middle is too narrow for my needs.
If the piece had just been made in two halves I would have found
multiple uses for it. (Admittedly there would have been a very minor
detrimental effect to a few LEGO designs that do use the piece, due to
the possibility of separation in the middle. Still, if you can deal
with the possible separation of the model at the ends of this piece,
you could deal with the middle as well.)
The basic idea of the piece---to join the top of one part to the
bottom of another, lower part---is a good one, however. I just got
two of the taller single-ended pieces from Todd, and I'm sure I'll
find good use for them. Unfortunately, the two component pieces that
I'd *like* to assembly the double-ended chassis from, which would be
special pieces in their own right, simply don't exist. I'm wondering
if I ought to sacrifice (glue together) a few plates to create my own.
I believe I have just one copy of the double-ended chassis piece,
currently being used in combination with one of the one-piece chassis
as landing gear on my long rocket sled, not because these pieces do
the job so much better than any other but just because they were
sitting around at the time.
Minx Kelly
: OK, here's one of my pet peeves. There are some pieces that look like
: this in cross-section:
: __n_. ._n__
: \ | | /
: \ |_n___n_| /
: \___________/
: \ | | /
: \ |_n_. ._n_| /
: \_____| |_____/
No no, I disagree.... The top piece is one of my favorites. It is
perfect for making walkways along castle walls. in that case 2 halves of
the same design simply would not have the structural integrity.
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David Karr
>
>: __n_. ._n__
>: \ | | /
>: \ |_n___n_| /
>: \___________/
>
>perfect for making walkways along castle walls.
That's an interesting application. I can't remember ever seeing
anything like it in real life (or in a photo thereof), but it could be
useful at some point. (Oh, castles do have walkways with overhanging
battlements atop their walls, but the ones I've seen were a bit
larger, assuming you're building to minifigure scale. This could make
a nice catwalk in a space port, though.)
>in that case 2 halves of
>the same design simply would not have the structural integrity.
How much structural integrity do you really *need* in such an
application? Is it a problem that the force necessary to pull the
outer wall off doesn't pull the inner wall with it as well?
Here's my position: True, you would sacrifice some value of the piece
for certain applications by splitting it. In a number of
applications, the two halves might be only 80% or 90% as good as one
whole. But I can come up with several applications where the whole is
completely worthless, where the two halves would serve well. Given
that tradeoff, I'd prefer the halves.
To put it another way: in my younger days I accidentally smashed in
LEGO roofs by pushing on them the wrong way. I haven't done this
lately because I know the weaknesses of the bricks in that
configuration, but the roofs would have a lot more structural
integrity if LEGO would just decide how big they ought to be, and go
and mold a single big roof piece in that size instead of making us
build them up from all these fragile little sloped bricks. Would this
be a good idea? I'd rather have a lot of little bricks. I have
similar feelings about airplane bottoms and the battlements of castle
turrets.
Minx Kelly leather goddess of phobos
: minx...@flood.xnet.com (Minx Kelly) writes:
: >
: >: __n_. ._n__
: >: \ | | /
: >: \ |_n___n_| /
: >: \___________/
: >
: >No no, I disagree.... The top piece is one of my favorites. It is
: >perfect for making walkways along castle walls.
: That's an interesting application. I can't remember ever seeing
: anything like it in real life (or in a photo thereof), but it could be
: useful at some point. (Oh, castles do have walkways with overhanging
: battlements atop their walls, but the ones I've seen were a bit
: larger, assuming you're building to minifigure scale. This could make
: a nice catwalk in a space port, though.)
look at castle 6085 sometime , Black Monarch's Castle. it has 5 of them
acting as such a walkway on the back half of the castle. and structural
integrity is very importan, as the castle is divided into the front half,
and then the back is 2 fourths, that connect with one of those e
prtotruding pins thsat snaps into the 1x2's with a hole in the center.
you need the strength of the walkway so the whole wall doesn't snap apart
when you open the back section up for play. those are in the 2 dot width
format. the 4 do width formats for that piece are useful for all the
cranes and buckets on various pirate harbor sets. add a flexible hose
and you have a cargo basket.
: >in that case 2 halves of
: >the same design simply would not have the structural integrity.
: How much structural integrity do you really *need* in such an
: application? Is it a problem that the force necessary to pull the
: outer wall off doesn't pull the inner wall with it as well?
if they were 2 separate pieces (as one can improvise say with 2 inverted
slopes and some 1x2's) then the front sections CAN snap off, or just come
off when you remove a minifig or something, also then you end up with
excessive height if all you wanted was wa thin little railing.
: Here's my position: True, you would sacrifice some value of the piece
: for certain applications by splitting it. In a number of
: applications, the two halves might be only 80% or 90% as good as one
: whole. But I can come up with several applications where the whole is
: completely worthless, where the two halves would serve well. Given
: that tradeoff, I'd prefer the halves.
well, being into castle, and pirate, i find these pieces invaluable.
heheh sooo, send all yours to me! ggrin
: To put it another way: in my younger days I accidentally smashed in
: LEGO roofs by pushing on them the wrong way. I haven't done this
: lately because I know the weaknesses of the bricks in that
: configuration, but the roofs would have a lot more structural
: integrity if LEGO would just decide how big they ought to be, and go
: and mold a single big roof piece in that size instead of making us
: build them up from all these fragile little sloped bricks. Would this
: be a good idea? I'd rather have a lot of little bricks. I have
: similar feelings about airplane bottoms and the battlements of castle
: turrets.
i agree about the casle turrets. castle walls, well, i do like them..
they give a smooh polished look to the castles, i can do as well without
them tho., the turrets and onepiece battlements, well, i don't like em
bu i use em.
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Robin Sather
Minx said ...
>i agree about the casle turrets. castle walls, well, i do like them..
>they give a smooh polished look to the castles, i can do as well without
>them tho., the turrets and onepiece battlements, well, i don't like em
>bu i use em.
Come on now, be honest :-) You don't "like" them, but you still use them?
Sounds to me as though you must like them a little bitty bit, at least.
They [walls, etc.) give a nice "smooth polished" look to the castles. Great!
For those of us interested in that look (probably most of us building
castles), there are some places where they are perfect. And again, if you
don't like them, don't buy them and don't use them!
Of course, I'm just "ribbing" you! To each his (or her) own on this issue.
Just seems a weensy bit hypocritical to "dis" the specialized castle pieces,
but still use them.
A fellow castle builder,
Robin
Minx Kelly leather goddess of phobos
minx wrote: |>
: |> No no, I disagree.... The top piece is one of my favorites. It is
: |> of
: |> the same design simply would not have the structural integrity.
: |>
: I LOVE this idea! Thanks Minx!
well, i can't claim to its design. i first came across it in 6085 and
love the effect. have duplicated/emulated it many many times on castles
of my own design. space the 2 width versions of the \_/ piece with 2
dots between each one, then use 1x4x1 arches to connect them, then a
1xwhateverx1/3 plate, then use 1x2's or 1x1 to make crenelations. it
connects those awkwards spots in castles where walkways are difficult to
manage.
Minx Kelly leather goddess of phobos
: Minx said ...
: >i agree about the casle turrets. castle walls, well, i do like them..
: >they give a smooh polished look to the castles, i can do as well without
: >them tho., the turrets and onepiece battlements, well, i don't like em
: >bu i use em.
: Come on now, be honest :-) You don't "like" them, but you still use them?
: Sounds to me as though you must like them a little bitty bit, at least.
: Of course, I'm just "ribbing" you! To each his (or her) own on this issue.
: Just seems a weensy bit hypocritical to "dis" the specialized castle pieces,
: but still use them.
well, i only use them when i assembling the castle exactly to directions
(i do a yearly assembly of all sets this way to check for missing pieces,
not an easy task with plastic tubs gholding almost 100 gallons of legos)
or if or when i have completely used up all my components to make
turrets/battlements/balconies iece by piece. :} i only use them when i
have to out of necessity. i dislike them, but i am not going to throw
them away. cannot think of any lego piece so useless i would throw it
away, except maybe the belville silver bucket.
Janice Tomer
Kelly) writes:
|> David Karr (ka...@cs.cornell.edu) wrote:
|> : OK, here's one of my pet peeves. There are some pieces that look
|> like
|> : this in cross-section:
|>
|> : \ | | /
|> : \ |_n___n_| /
|> : \___________/
|>
|> : \ |_n_. ._n_| /
|> : \_____| |_____/
|>
|> perfect for making walkways along castle walls. in that case 2 halves
|> of
|> the same design simply would not have the structural integrity.
|>
I LOVE this idea! Thanks Minx!
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: The Nephilim (je...@teubner.com) wrote:
: : In some cases, the larger pieces that are made by combining two or more
: : smaller pieces are quite functional and useful in their own right.
: Like the 1x8 beam. It could be made with 1x1 and 1x2 plates
: (and several other plate combinations).
: Or even 1x1 bricks (if it didn't need to hold together by itself).
Say you're into technic legos and need those holes in all those beams.
Try building that out of 1x2's! (OK, don't waste your time.) In some
cases we *do* need specialized pieces...
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David Karr
>David Karr (ka...@cs.cornell.edu) wrote:
>look at castle 6085 sometime , Black Monarch's Castle. [...]
>you need the strength of the walkway so the whole wall doesn't snap apart
>when you open the back section up for play.
Not having an actual 6085 to experiment with (the catalog picture
isn't very clear), I'm having a hard time seeing what the walkway is
doing for the structure that a couple layers of ordinary plates or
bricks wouldn't. In fact, couldn't you do just as well by simply
laying down a long 2xN plate, and building the walkway on top of that?
(And there are probably a number of other satisfactory answers to this
structural problem that don't require the U-shaped pieces.)
>if they were 2 separate pieces (as one can improvise say with 2 inverted
>slopes and some 1x2's) then the front sections CAN snap off, or just come
>off when you remove a minifig or something,
If they could come off that easily, why doesn't the whole walkway come
off then? My impression was you're putting these on top of walls that
are only 1 stud thick anyway, and that better stability of the entire
walkway can be established only by anchoring it to something (e.g., a
turret) on at least one end.
>also then you end up with
>excessive height if all you wanted was wa thin little railing.
Well, that's exactly my point---an ordinary inverted slope is not at
all a good replacement for the half-piece I proposed. The depressed
space between the two reverse slopes is important. I simply propose
that it would be more useful if that space could sometimes be 4 studs
wide instead of 2, which you could easily accomplish if the piece
were split in two.
>well, being into castle, and pirate, i find these pieces invaluable.
>heheh sooo, send all yours to me! ggrin
Sure, I'll send you a 2x4 yellow U-shaped piece in return for two 2x2
yellow half-U-pieces, if you have them. Just don't try to palm any
ordinary reverse slopes off on me. :-)
>castle walls, well, i do like them..
>they give a smooh polished look to the castles, i can do as well without
>them tho., the turrets and onepiece battlements, well, i don't like em
>bu i use em.
Hey, if they fit where you want to put them, it would be foolish not to.
The comment about the polished look of castle walls is interesting. I
can't think of a real castle whose walls are that smooth and
polished-looking---yet another case where the special piece ironically
gives a *less* realistic rendition than ordinary bricks would.
Raymond Suke Flournoy
Minx Kelly leather goddess of phobos <minx...@MCS.COM> wrote:
>...
>them away. cannot think of any lego piece so useless i would throw it
>away, except maybe the belville silver bucket.
Wait, so does this mean you've discovered a use for the Belville
silver knob pieces?!?
They look like they would make good doorknobs, except for the fact
that they are the same size as a minifig's *head*!
--Raymond Flournoy
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Kevin Johnston
> Wait, so does this mean you've discovered a use for the Belville
> silver knob pieces?!?
Decorative flourishes for castles.
Kevin
David Karr
: >but i use em.
:
: [...]
: Just seems a weensy bit hypocritical to "dis" the specialized castle pieces,
: but still use them.
No, it's not even a "weensy bit" hypocritical. I'm 100% in agreement
with Minx on this point.
An example of "hypocritical" is if you claim that smoking has no
benefit whatsoever but is a purely harmful thing, yet you smoke.
On the other hand, if you are stranded on a desert island with nothing
edible except worms and slugs, you are perfectly entitled to eat worms
and slugs (in order to survive) while complaining how awful they are
to eat.
The LEGO battlements are more like the second case than the first.
I've seen nobody complain that it would be better to have no LEGO at
all than to have a battlement piece. I have seen people complain that
they would rather the thing had been built up from a different set of
pieces. But wishing it were so won't get you that set of pieces when
the time comes that you need to put a battlement atop your castle.
Minx Kelly leather goddess of phobos
: Minx Kelly leather goddess of phobos <minx...@MCS.COM> wrote:
: >...
: >them away. cannot think of any lego piece so useless i would throw it
: >away, except maybe the belville silver bucket.
: Wait, so does this mean you've discovered a use for the Belville
: silver knob pieces?!?
heheh actually i have! i used one as a crystal ball for my gypsy
fortuneteller at my carnival. :} used a village woman with a red pirate
scarf hat on her.
James R Owens
: Robin Sather (rsa...@wimsey.com) wrote:
: : Minx said ...
: : >[...] the turrets and onepiece battlements, well, i don't like em
: : >but i use em.
: :
: : [...]
: : Just seems a weensy bit hypocritical to "dis" the specialized castle pieces,
: : but still use them.
: No, it's not even a "weensy bit" hypocritical. I'm 100% in agreement
: with Minx on this point.
: An example of "hypocritical" is if you claim that smoking has no
: benefit whatsoever but is a purely harmful thing, yet you smoke.
Well...it would be hypocritical if you said other people shouldn't smoke
because of this...and then you smoked. The way you have it isn't hypocritical,
it is just plain dumb :)
: On the other hand, if you are stranded on a desert island with nothing
: edible except worms and slugs, you are perfectly entitled to eat worms
: and slugs (in order to survive) while complaining how awful they are
: to eat.
: The LEGO battlements are more like the second case than the first.
: I've seen nobody complain that it would be better to have no LEGO at
: all than to have a battlement piece. I have seen people complain that
: they would rather the thing had been built up from a different set of
: pieces. But wishing it were so won't get you that set of pieces when
: the time comes that you need to put a battlement atop your castle.
It would be really nice if LEGO could break down the bigger pieces
a bit. They seem to have skipped over a happy medium that I would be
satisfied with. Instead they went straight from all the smaller pieces
to these large wall pieces. Maybe divide them into 2 or 4 pieces and
they would be more useful and agreeable to people.
Jim Owens
jow...@cadman.cit.buffalo.edu
Robin Sather
>: Of course, I'm just "ribbing" you! To each his (or her) own on this issue.
>: Just seems a weensy bit hypocritical to "dis" the specialized castle pieces,
>: but still use them.
Minx responded ...
>well, i only use them when i assembling the castle exactly to directions
>(i do a yearly assembly of all sets this way to check for missing pieces,
>not an easy task with plastic tubs gholding almost 100 gallons of legos)
>or if or when i have completely used up all my components to make
>turrets/battlements/balconies iece by piece. :} i only use them when i
>have to out of necessity. i dislike them, but i am not going to throw
>them away. cannot think of any lego piece so useless i would throw it
>away, except maybe the belville silver bucket.
OK, cool. Well, I must say that I absolutely love all the specialized castle
pieces. I've been playing with Lego since the late 60's, and love to
build castles. Even with large scale creations, I was just never quite
satisfied with the level of realism possible until the specialized stuff
appeared in the 80's. But hey! More power to ya (lego power that is)!
Robin
Robin Sather
>: The LEGO battlements are more like the second case than the first.
>: I've seen nobody complain that it would be better to have no LEGO at
>: all than to have a battlement piece. I have seen people complain that
>: they would rather the thing had been built up from a different set of
>: pieces. But wishing it were so won't get you that set of pieces when
>: the time comes that you need to put a battlement atop your castle.
>It would be really nice if LEGO could break down the bigger pieces
>a bit. They seem to have skipped over a happy medium that I would be
>satisfied with. Instead they went straight from all the smaller pieces
>to these large wall pieces. Maybe divide them into 2 or 4 pieces and
>they would be more useful and agreeable to people.
>Jim Owens
Well said. As per the discussion that several have been having lately about
the \_/ pieces. The battlement piece could nicely be 2 pieces, but having
said that, I'm glad that we have the battlement piece at all. I think's it's
incredibly useful. As for the corner wall pieces, the last time I used them
was for parts of the engines on a Star Wars style Y-wing fighter. They worked
perfectly!
Robin