If Mueller says no evidence for Russia collusion will DemocRats and Fake Media apologize?

[Calimero]

Don't hold your breath.
Those scumbags simply don't accept that the American people elected someone whom they despise.

Enemies of the people indeed.


Max

[PeteWasLucky]

What if he wasn't allowed to release any of his findings?

[Calimero]

On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 8:24:48 AM UTC+1, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> What if he wasn't allowed to release any of his findings?

You think the Demmies won‘t allow that or what?


Max

[The Iceberg]

What if might could possibly maybe Trump might nuke the entire world LOLOL

[Calimero]

On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 10:56:00 AM UTC+1, The Iceberg wrote:
> What if might could possibly maybe Trump might nuke the entire world LOLOL

Pete, Schwanzlos, TT will be hating Mueller very soon!


Max

[Sawfish]

On 2/23/19 11:24 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> What if he wasn't allowed to release any of his findings?

That could happen. Could also be redacted.

It would be a problem for Trump, in my opinion. His base won't care, but
parts of the undecided middle would get suspicious.

--
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"I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe. Barbecue grills on fire behind the condominiums that line the 9th fairway. I watched casual strollers slip on dog excrement on the boardwalk near the amusement pier. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.

Time for lunch."

--Sawfish

[Sawfish]

My understanding is that the executive branch controls the release, as
odd as that sounds.

I could be mistaken, however.

[Calimero]

Yes, surprisingly the DOJ and FBI are part of the executive branch.


Max

[Sawfish]

And the actual findings are not as important as the fact that there was
an investigation!!!

That's how it works with the general populace. Being involved in an
investigation means that you have very possibly done something unlawful.
That, right there, was the minimum goal of the Democrats in calling for
an investigation. Just *having* the investigation gained an advantage,
which they held for >2years, and would not have otherwise had without it.

Moreover, the way the general public thinks is like this: if there are
findings of impropriety, Trump supporters will conclude that the
investigation was biased--a set-up. If no improprieties are found, the
Trump opponents will say that the investigation was suppressed or
otherwise compromised.

Just having the investigation, at all, was a Demo victory, and it's all
they actually wanted. Anything else is icing. It was a no lose
situation, like when Starr chased B. Clinton in the 90s.

Sometimes this all seems like a Punch 'n' Judy show, doesn't it?

Kabuki theater, indeed...

[undecided]

I agree, I hope it backfires on them. They literally held the country politically hostage for 2 years with this nonsense.

[Calimero]

The new AG Barr is on record for saying that an investigation in the Clinton Russia Uranium deal would have made more sense than a Trump Russia collusion investigation.
Payback time will start very soon.

McCabe, Comey, Strzok do very well know why they have lawyered-up bigly already.


Max

[PeteWasLucky]

> Pete, Schwanzlos, TT will be hating Mueller very soon!

I don't care about Mueller or Trump. Trump will not stay in the office for ever.

[The Iceberg]

Hahahahah! You can’t change your tune now after saying the opposite for 2.5 years!!

[Calimero]

On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 12:23:10 AM UTC+1, The Iceberg wrote:
> Hahahahah! You can’t change your tune now after saying the opposite for 2.5 years!!

I just love it how it is slowly dawning to the left that Mueller won't be able to help them.
The back-pedaling has already begun.

Expect AG Barr to start an aggressive investigation on how this "Steele dossier" was misused by rogue DOJ/FBI operatives to start a treasonous effort to invalidate a presidential election.


Max



—
“I’ve never seen a woman with this aura in my life.”
(David Letterman, US talk show host, on Steffi Graf, 2009)

[bob]

On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 09:07:50 -0800 (PST), PeteWasLucky
<waleed...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Pete, Schwanzlos, TT will be hating Mueller very soon!
>
>I don't care about Mueller or Trump.

?? for not caring you sure post about it a lot. lol

> Trump will not stay in the office for ever.

jan 2025, at the latest.

bob

[Hey Guys]

On Saturday, February 23, 2019 at 6:19:07 PM UTC-5, Calimero wrote:

And if the report says there was collusion/conspiracy by the campaign and obstruction by Trump will you accept it?

[soccerfan777]

He will say fake news.

[TT]

Calimero kirjoitti 24.2.2019 klo 1:19:
> Don't hold your breath.

We already know that there was collusion.

[TT]

Sawfish kirjoitti 24.2.2019 klo 17:04:
> On 2/23/19 11:31 PM, Calimero wrote:
>> On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 8:24:48 AM UTC+1, PeteWasLucky wrote:
>>> What if he wasn't allowed to release any of his findings?
>> You think the Demmies won‘t allow that or what?
>>
>>
>> Max
>
> My understanding is that the executive branch controls the release, as
> odd as that sounds.
>
> I could be mistaken, however.
>

William Barr decides what will be released.

He was picked for the job because he thinks that the president can't be
indicted & probably that DOJ shouldn't release info on unindicted people...

Democrats can subpoena the Muller report though which may lead to
prolonged court battle.

[Calimero]

Any criminal behavior of Trump should result in resigning from office.


Max

[Calimero]

I will accept any evidence.
Since you are a Demmie you convict people without evidence. We know that. We had Socialists long enough in Germany. From 1933 to 1945 and in Eastern Germany until 1990.


Max

[Calimero]

Hey, Adam Schitt, is it you?
Lol ...


Max

[Calimero]

On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 5:18:20 PM UTC+1, TT wrote:

[Calimero]

On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 5:22:59 PM UTC+1, TT wrote:
> Sawfish kirjoitti 24.2.2019 klo 17:04:
> > On 2/23/19 11:31 PM, Calimero wrote:
> >> On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 8:24:48 AM UTC+1, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> >>> What if he wasn't allowed to release any of his findings?
> >> You think the Demmies won‘t allow that or what?
> >>
> >>
> >> Max
> >
> > My understanding is that the executive branch controls the release, as
> > odd as that sounds.
> >
> > I could be mistaken, however.
> >
>
> William Barr decides what will be released.
>
> He was picked for the job because he thinks that the president can't be
> indicted & probably that DOJ shouldn't release info on unindicted people...
>

Then it will be released after Trump completes his second term. And he will be indicted in 2025.
So what?


Max

[undecided]

As long collusion and conspiracy is not construed to be some stray tweet by Trump then I would be on board. Unfortunately though, I am quite sure that's what's left to the Democrats at this point.

[bob]

can you compare/contrast W Germany to E Germany from 1945 to say 1990
or even 2000? give some examples.

bob

[bob]

any criminal behavior related to the election, i'd agree.

if he didn't pay a speeding in 1982, that's not grounds for
resignation.

bob

[Hey Guys]

Any criminal behavior after the election too?

[Calimero]

That's not criminal but just a misdemeanor.

> > bob
>
> Any criminal behavior after the election too?

What would that be?



Max

[Hey Guys]

Money laundering through his inauguration fund?

[Calimero]

> > > Any criminal behavior after the election too??

> >
> >
> > What would that be?
> >
> >
> >
> > Max
>
> Money laundering through his inauguration fund?

Which black money do you mean?
How is this supposed to have worked?


Max

[The Iceberg]

just wanna say you do know Hillary LOST don't you.

[bob]

like?

bob

[Hey Guys]

All of the things the SDNY are investigating. They didn't give the Trump CFO immunity for nothing...

[Hey Guys]

Here's an article: https://www.wsj.com/articles/lawyers-for-trump-inaugural-committee-receive-subpoena-for-documents-11549325383

Notice the words criminal investigation.

[Calimero]

What is the SDNY investigating?
Links?


Max

[bob]

On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 12:58:24 -0800 (PST), Hey Guys

i thought we were talking about honest investigations here, not
politically motivated shams by haters?

bob

[bob]

On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 13:09:45 -0800 (PST), Calimero

everything. they hate trump and are investigating EVERY thing the man
ever did. which is why it's a sham.

>Links?

bob

[bob]

On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 13:07:45 -0800 (PST), Hey Guys

are they worried the caviar at the inauguration wasn't 1st tier, even
though they paid top dollar? is that it?

bob

[jdeluise]

On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 20:47:51 -0500, bob wrote:

> everything. they hate trump and are investigating EVERY thing the man
> ever did. which is why it's a sham.

You sound like a ranting nut on this topic.

[Calimero]

There is not a lot left after the Russia collusion narrative imploded.
Now they are going for unpaid speed tickets and such. I hope Demmie will impeach him with stuff like that. Will secure his re-election. Together with the Demmie reparation program.


Max

[The Iceberg]

you sound like you're still really upset that your Hillary LOST! it been 2.5 years now, get over it!

[Calimero]

Demmies almost always have problems to accept defeat.
Because history is supposed to be on THEIR side. Because they are the good ones.

Those bigots.


Max

[Sawfish]

There seem to be a lot of people who honest-to-god conceive as human
history as a sort of pre-ordained march upwards out of the morass. It
implies a sort of moral plan, that mankind, itself, is improving due
to...to what? That part has never been real clear to me. Is it adherence
to some divine plan? If so, please point to it, and maybe we can all
know what it is.

But they have a point in that the "rough edges" of humanity seem to be
being smoothed off. Less overt aggression, daily violence--there are
pockets of exception, but you could make a decent case that this is
happening.

But I don't it has anything to do with a moral plan, or in basic
improvement in the nature of humans. I think it has to do with the
average "wealth" of any give society, and the length they've had that
wealth.

So that you might be able to track this ephemeral rise in "humanity" to
something like per capita GDP. The higher it it, the longer, the
"better" humans act toward each other.

As to why, any fool should be able to figure that one out, but let's
give them a hint: less competitor for substance resources.

Oh, sure, people still compete for *surplus* resources, but it's not
like when one is competing for resources to merely stay alive--and you
know it; this is *war*, red in tooth and claw. Competing for *more* on
top of an already well-larded lifestyle is more like two pansies
fighting over a brightly colored silk scarf at a Saks sale.

> Because they are the good ones.
>
> Those bigots.
>
>
> Max

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[*skriptis]

Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

What do you think about progressives calls to stop procreating to
help environment?

It's a very common message in the west. France, UK, Germany, now
AOC in USA.




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[Calimero]

It is not common in Germany, Shitpiss is lying as usual.


Max

[*skriptis]

Calimero <calim...@gmx.de> Wrote in message:

Define common, before we can continue discussing?

[Sawfish]

In an odd sense, this is the actual answer to global warming and all
other environmentally related issues.

You just gotta decide: is preservation of extant environments/species
more important than modifying the environment in favor of the human
population?  If it is, population reduction is the best answer.

What it does to ethnic/cultural identities is a separate issue, in my
view. It's worthy of discussion, but needs separate exploration, then
another round of exploration vis-a-vis the environment issue.

--
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"Wha's yo name, fool?"
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[Calimero]

That we hear about it in major media every other day.


Max

[*skriptis]

It's also very un-Christian, Sawfish.

It's the most important criteria to determine if someone or
something is sick, evil, deranged and essentially satanic.


Does it comply with Christianity?


As we know:

God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in
number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the
sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that
moves on the ground."


Everything in this world is God's work, but man is made in the
image of God and therefore it deserves most respect.


There are billions of stars and planets awaiting us, this Earth is
priceless for us, now, but in no way it is unique.


Man is, however.

Now imagine being so deranged to mix up with your priorities?
Imagine Federer canceling Wimbledon to prepare for
Newport?

Is it more important to take care of humanity or environment per se?




To further elaborate, sometimes population control is necessary to
prevent troubles, but it's always painful. What China did to
their people with one child policy, was tough, but it was at
least their own thing.

They had lack of resources and had to stop growth, and they paid
the emotional and biological price. Don't think their population
pyramid nowadays isn't skewed and something which will cause
trouble for them in the following decades.

So it always comes with a price. But their country, their price
and their rewards.



But what these "progressives" in the west are preaching, USA with
300 millions, or EU with 500 millions should stop procreating so
that China could have 1400 millions or India 1500 millions or
Africa 4000 millions (projected).

That's not nice of them.

[Sawfish]

Fair enough.

[*skriptis]

Fair enough. If that's criteria, then it's not common.

But there might be correlation between common and normal.

The idea we discuss is so insane that hearing it couple of times
per year in media is extremely common in my book.

[Hey Guys]

My guess is you don't understand what SDNY is. It's not controlled by the state of NY or the NY AG. SDNY is the NY district branch of the DOJ. The DOJ has been under republican control since 2017. Trump appointed the head of the SDNY. There are no "haters" in control of the SDNY. This is the same group that had it out for Hillary and got Comey to re-open the e-mail investigation two weeks before election day thanks to their investigation into Anthony Weiner. SDNY is historically anti-dem.

You really can't fathom that Trump may have legitimately committed crimes, can you?

[Calimero]

Which crimes would that be?
I mean, except beating Hillary?


Max

[The Iceberg]

HeyG you know the sequence of blame when Hillary LOST don't you?
first they blamed Comey
then white supremacists and the KKK
then a "whitelash" against a black president
then Islamophobia, xenophobia
then sexism and that men didn't want a woman president
then fake news on fake news websites
then fake news on facebook
then the Russians hackers!

all hilarious and sorry excuses cos she was a poor candidate, nothing else.
Trump definitely did not commit any crimes, he WON fair and square, get over it.

[The Iceberg]

we can't stop the climate changing, it's what it does and always has done.

[Calimero]

You got the sequence wrong.
It 1 - 5 - 3 - 4 - 8 - 6 - 7 is the right one.


Max

[bob]

it was 2 sentences. how many times you called out reiloc for a 5
paragraph rant?

bob

[bob]

i don't believe it's a good idea to tell people who can/cannot
procreate because, regardless of christianity, it's just not up to
somebody else to say.

i do however believe that at some pt people should realize for their
own good that we all live on 1 planet, and it only has so much to
give. it's just being smart, IMO.

>As we know:
>God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in
> number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the
> sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that
> moves on the ground."

yes. but what does "increase" mean? 1bil? 7bil? 10tril? IMO it's good
logic that humans should realize it's in our best interest to take
care of our home.

>Everything in this world is God's work, but man is made in the
> image of God and therefore it deserves most respect.
>There are billions of stars and planets awaiting us, this Earth is
> priceless for us, now, but in no way it is unique.
>Man is, however.
>Now imagine being so deranged to mix up with your priorities?
> Imagine Federer canceling Wimbledon to prepare for
> Newport?
>Is it more important to take care of humanity or environment per se?

taking care of the environment will take care of man - IMO.

>To further elaborate, sometimes population control is necessary to
> prevent troubles, but it's always painful. What China did to
> their people with one child policy, was tough, but it was at
> least their own thing.
>They had lack of resources and had to stop growth, and they paid
> the emotional and biological price. Don't think their population
> pyramid nowadays isn't skewed and something which will cause
> trouble for them in the following decades.
>So it always comes with a price. But their country, their price
> and their rewards.
>But what these "progressives" in the west are preaching, USA with
> 300 millions, or EU with 500 millions should stop procreating so
> that China could have 1400 millions or India 1500 millions or
> Africa 4000 millions (projected).
>That's not nice of them.

AOC is an imbecile. she probably doesn't know as much about
environmental issues as your average 10yr old.

but everybody should be respectful of the environment, nature, other
species, etc as much as possible because, IMO, it's in ALL our best
interest.

bob

[bob]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 07:54:26 -0800 (PST), Hey Guys

i am certain trump committed crimes. i am certain you have committed
crimes. i'm certain i have. i am certain obama has. we all know the
clintons have. what is your pt?

there are SWAMP creatures in DOJ that are "republicans" and even some
that trump himself hired or oversees, that hate him. do you not get
that? ESPECIALLY anyone to do with south NY.

bob

[bob]

outstanding post.

bob

[Hey Guys]

You're certain I've committed felonies? Have you?

I mean, if Trump hired people who hate him, he's too dumb to be president.

[Pelle Svanslös]

On 28/02/2019 1.39, bob wrote:
>
> i am certain trump committed crimes. i am certain you have committed
> crimes. i'm certain i have.

You're a criminal too? That figures.

What did you do? Hate crimes?

[Hey Guys]

If past investigations into Hillary showed no evidence of crimes, will RST apologize?

If that’s the standard there’s going to be long ass apology list :-)

[The Iceberg]

HeyG have you never driven over the speed limit?

[The Iceberg]

in your world it'd be that he owns a house, since you reckon all property is theft.

[The Iceberg]

On Friday, 1 March 2019 02:28:42 UTC, Hey Guys wrote:
> If past investigations into Hillary showed no evidence of crimes, will RST apologize?
>
> If that’s the standard there’s going to be long ass apology list :-)

you really really love Hillary don't ya. You must get on well with Brian! LOL

[Hey Guys]

I've never committed a felony.

[Hey Guys]

Nah, just pointing out the hypocrisy of Max's original question...or at least different standards some posters apply to Trump compared to Hillary.

[bob]

On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 05:55:44 -0800 (PST), Hey Guys

are crimes always felonies?

>I mean, if Trump hired people who hate him, he's too dumb to be president.

he got the votes, that's what you need to be president.

bob

[bob]

got 3-4 speeding tickets in my life. it's on the records. :-( paid em
all on time too.

now pelle, he's pure racist.

bob

[Calimero]

Is speeding a crime in your country?


Max

[bob]

On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 07:01:49 -0800 (PST), Calimero <calim...@gmx.de>
wrote:

that word "crime." hmm. speeding is against the law, absolutely.

if a police officer with hand held radar catches you you can go to
court to fight it (and likely lose) or admit guilt and pay the fine.
then it's on your driving record, and a county search of records will
show it.

bob

[Pelle Svanslös]

On 03/03/2019 0.04, bob wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 07:01:49 -0800 (PST), Calimero <calim...@gmx.de>
> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, March 2, 2019 at 3:43:50 PM UTC+1, bob wrote:
>>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 23:46:56 -0800 (PST), The Iceberg
>>> <iceber...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday, 28 February 2019 14:22:50 UTC, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
>>>>> On 28/02/2019 1.39, bob wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i am certain trump committed crimes. i am certain you have committed
>>>>>> crimes. i'm certain i have.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're a criminal too? That figures.
>>>>>
>>>>> What did you do? Hate crimes?
>>>>
>>>> in your world it'd be that he owns a house, since you reckon all property is theft.
>>>
>>> got 3-4 speeding tickets in my life. it's on the records. :-( paid em
>>> all on time too.
>>>
>>> now pelle, he's pure racist.
>>>
>>> bob
>>
>>
>> Is speeding a crime in your country?
>

Unless you speed into a bunch of pedestrians, not really.

bob of course realised he made a bad statement and now has to backtrack
it with a string of lies. Typical bob.

Criminals are like that.

[The Iceberg]

oh no Pelle again trying to the tell Americans about the USA, despite being foreign. Amazing he keeps trying this!

[bob]

On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 06:18:23 -0800 (PST), The Iceberg

yeah, pelle & TT are so cute when they're angry.

bob