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TT
Nov 22, 2011, 4:24:36 PM11/22/11
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:)
You're correct Iceberg...this surface is tailor-made for Federer! Best
play from Federer against Nadal, ever, I think. (didn't see it all
because of reeally choppy stream). He went all out all the time and it
worked for 2 sets.
Nadal will get to semis if he beats Tsonga...that is if Federer beats Fish.
You're correct Iceberg...this surface is tailor-made for Federer! Best
play from Federer against Nadal, ever, I think. (didn't see it all
because of reeally choppy stream). He went all out all the time and it
worked for 2 sets.
Nadal will get to semis if he beats Tsonga...that is if Federer beats Fish.
AliAsoag
Nov 22, 2011, 4:36:47 PM11/22/11
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of Fish winning or not because he won the direct encounter?
Else, please no excuses for Nadal here! He wants to be a great, so he
should be doing well on all surfaces. Or are you admitting Nadal is a
claycourter who was just lucky to win some slams outside clay?
And, Fed never played well against Nadal, except at the WFT.
Booger
Nov 22, 2011, 4:36:31 PM11/22/11
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On Nov 22, 2:24 pm, TT <as...@usenet.org> wrote:
totally depends on the Nadal and Tsonga match.
Yama
Nov 22, 2011, 4:43:44 PM11/22/11
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TT <as...@usenet.org> wrote:
: You're correct Iceberg...this surface is tailor-made for Federer! Best
him play better from bh side, he was outrallying Nadal with bh to fh.
I expected Federer to win, possibly in straights, but I wonder if Nadal was sick,
he looked so slow and weak out there. Almost no fight either, one weak vamos only.
Surface seems slower than last year, but I'm not sure it actually helps Nadal.
It makes it easy for Fed to set up his shots and handle Nadal's serve.
: You're correct Iceberg...this surface is tailor-made for Federer! Best
: play from Federer against Nadal, ever, I think. (didn't see it all
: because of reeally choppy stream). He went all out all the time and it
: worked for 2 sets.
Federer's backhand was really in form there. I don't think I have ever seen
: because of reeally choppy stream). He went all out all the time and it
: worked for 2 sets.
him play better from bh side, he was outrallying Nadal with bh to fh.
I expected Federer to win, possibly in straights, but I wonder if Nadal was sick,
he looked so slow and weak out there. Almost no fight either, one weak vamos only.
Surface seems slower than last year, but I'm not sure it actually helps Nadal.
It makes it easy for Fed to set up his shots and handle Nadal's serve.
Court_1
Nov 22, 2011, 4:46:46 PM11/22/11
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On Nov 22, 4:43 pm, Yama <tj...@NOSPAMpajuoulu.fi> wrote:
> TT <as...@usenet.org> wrote:
>
> : You're correct Iceberg...this surface is tailor-made for Federer! Best
> : play from Federer against Nadal, ever, I think. (didn't see it all
> : because of reeally choppy stream). He went all out all the time and it
> : worked for 2 sets.
>
> Federer's backhand was really in form there. I don't think I have ever seen
> him play better from bh side, he was outrallying Nadal with bh to fh.
>
Federer has definitely been working on his backhand. It has improved a
> TT <as...@usenet.org> wrote:
>
> : You're correct Iceberg...this surface is tailor-made for Federer! Best
> : play from Federer against Nadal, ever, I think. (didn't see it all
> : because of reeally choppy stream). He went all out all the time and it
> : worked for 2 sets.
>
> Federer's backhand was really in form there. I don't think I have ever seen
> him play better from bh side, he was outrallying Nadal with bh to fh.
>
lot.
RzR
Nov 22, 2011, 4:47:30 PM11/22/11
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i hope you all won some money on it too...
TT
Nov 22, 2011, 4:48:15 PM11/22/11
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Fed 2-3 wins
Nadal 2 wins (if he beats Tsonga)
Tsonga 1 wins
Fish 0-1 wins
jdeluise
Nov 22, 2011, 4:54:00 PM11/22/11
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Seems unlikely now...
Shakes
Nov 22, 2011, 4:53:24 PM11/22/11
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stunners against Blake in the 2007 YEC ? (Or is it 2006) ?
On a higher bouncing surface, the inherent flaws of a 1HBH will always
be more exposed.
TT
Nov 22, 2011, 4:54:27 PM11/22/11
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22.11.2011 23:43, Yama kirjoitti:
> TT<as...@usenet.org> wrote:
> : You're correct Iceberg...this surface is tailor-made for Federer! Best
> : play from Federer against Nadal, ever, I think. (didn't see it all
> : because of reeally choppy stream). He went all out all the time and it
> : worked for 2 sets.
>
> Federer's backhand was really in form there. I don't think I have ever seen
> him play better from bh side, he was outrallying Nadal with bh to fh.
>
> I expected Federer to win, possibly in straights, but I wonder if Nadal was sick,
> he looked so slow and weak out there. Almost no fight either, one weak vamos only.
Hard to tell, I hardly saw the match because of choppy stream...
> TT<as...@usenet.org> wrote:
> : You're correct Iceberg...this surface is tailor-made for Federer! Best
> : play from Federer against Nadal, ever, I think. (didn't see it all
> : because of reeally choppy stream). He went all out all the time and it
> : worked for 2 sets.
>
> Federer's backhand was really in form there. I don't think I have ever seen
> him play better from bh side, he was outrallying Nadal with bh to fh.
>
> I expected Federer to win, possibly in straights, but I wonder if Nadal was sick,
> he looked so slow and weak out there. Almost no fight either, one weak vamos only.
Rafa looked pale, at least in that stream. Also I did catch final stats,
Rafa won something like 45% on first serve...so would be fair to say
that at least he was serving dreadfully.
>
> Surface seems slower than last year, but I'm not sure it actually helps Nadal.
> It makes it easy for Fed to set up his shots and handle Nadal's serve.
perfectly and for Nadal least possible amount.
Fed must be the favourite after this performance. But... another day,
another game.
TT
Nov 22, 2011, 4:55:48 PM11/22/11
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22.11.2011 23:46, Court_1 kirjoitti:
>>
> Federer has definitely been working on his backhand. It has improved a
> lot.
People say that every year at YEC, with extremely low bounce.
>>
> Federer has definitely been working on his backhand. It has improved a
> lot.
Court_1
Nov 22, 2011, 4:56:12 PM11/22/11
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On Nov 22, 4:54 pm, TT <as...@usenet.org> wrote:
> Fed must be the favourite after this performance. But... another day,
> another game.
Exactly, with Fed these days you just have to take it one match at a
> Fed must be the favourite after this performance. But... another day,
> another game.
time. He certainly looks like the favorite after this match but each
day is a new day.
Court_1
Nov 22, 2011, 4:58:32 PM11/22/11
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pounced! Such a beautiful performance! Sigh.
TT
Nov 22, 2011, 5:00:20 PM11/22/11
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I thought after TSONGA's performance that he has a good chance beating
Nadal here...he played really well.
I believe Rafa has dominated Tsonga for some time now, so let's see...
RzR
Nov 22, 2011, 5:01:15 PM11/22/11
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you are maturing :D
Court_1
Nov 22, 2011, 4:58:59 PM11/22/11
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kipps
Nov 22, 2011, 5:09:04 PM11/22/11
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Surprising he did not hire Anacone earlier, no more tentative shots to the mid court waiting for Nadal to work his bh!
Sakari Lund
Nov 22, 2011, 5:50:10 PM11/22/11
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reason before I had the chance to post it here. The words are probably
not exactly correct, but the idea was: "Every time I lose, "he only
has the serve blah blah blah". Every time I win "He has improved so
much". Since 2003..."
I thought this was exactly how the commentators and rst posters talk
about him.
Iceberg
Nov 22, 2011, 5:51:12 PM11/22/11
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wasn't sure if they'd done the same thing this year, but clearly they
have + Nadal and co are all injured. Makes a nice end of year exo for
the Fedfans, I suppose.
Iceberg
Nov 22, 2011, 5:54:36 PM11/22/11
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gave them the specs for the surface.
Iceberg
Nov 22, 2011, 6:03:40 PM11/22/11
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played Fed at Wimbledon 2009.
Court_1
Nov 22, 2011, 6:15:47 PM11/22/11
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Oh ok, another idiot! Federer is a superior player indoors just as
Nadal is a superior player on clay. It would not matter where they
meet indoors or what the specs are, Federer is the favorite. Has Nadal
ever defeated Federer indoors? At least Federer has defeated Nadal on
clay before.
Ulysses
Nov 22, 2011, 7:54:41 PM11/22/11
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I am so sick of all this "Rafa is sick" BS and this is why his ass was
handed to him by Roger. Rafa appeared sick against Fish. He had a day
off since that Fish match. Rafa said in his presser that he "felt
perfectly." Nadal hasn't played more than 5 matches in 2 months. He's
not match tough and no one beats Fed in Jesus Fed mode.
handed to him by Roger. Rafa appeared sick against Fish. He had a day
off since that Fish match. Rafa said in his presser that he "felt
perfectly." Nadal hasn't played more than 5 matches in 2 months. He's
not match tough and no one beats Fed in Jesus Fed mode.
Superdave
Nov 22, 2011, 8:47:28 PM11/22/11
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tournament and bagel him twice more and raise the h2h to 17-10.
Pelle Svanslös
Nov 23, 2011, 11:47:38 AM11/23/11
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shoulders with. What's a couple of fixed draws or WTF surfaces in
exchange for some betting tips? That's the way things work.
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Court_1
Nov 23, 2011, 1:49:19 PM11/23/11
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Pelle Svanslös
Nov 23, 2011, 2:02:53 PM11/23/11
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I think Feddy called Teddy Forstmann, the 100% honourable man, the
gambler who doesn't gamble, his friend. What else do you need to know?
It's clear as a whistle.
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Court_1
Nov 23, 2011, 2:15:48 PM11/23/11
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Forstmann is dead now and won't be doing much gambling or match
fixing.
So you were all over me for saying the top players most likely use
PED's and yet you have no trouble saying Federer is into match fixing?
TT
Nov 23, 2011, 2:19:50 PM11/23/11
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23.11.2011 21:02, Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti:
>
> You mean, you want, um, evidence? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Oh my ...
Lol, good catch...courtsie wanting evidence. :)
>
> You mean, you want, um, evidence? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Oh my ...
TT
Nov 23, 2011, 2:21:43 PM11/23/11
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23.11.2011 21:15, Court_1 kirjoitti:
> Forstmann is dead now and won't be doing much gambling or match
> fixing.
>
So is Michael Jackson.
> Forstmann is dead now and won't be doing much gambling or match
> fixing.
>
Court_1
Nov 23, 2011, 2:25:40 PM11/23/11
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shady dealings. What is the point?
Court_1
Nov 23, 2011, 2:24:42 PM11/23/11
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info. I never said that Federer involved in this whole thing with
Forstmann was impossible. I am not one of those deranged fans who
thinks Federer or any athlete is pristine like you do about Rafa.
arnab.z@gmail
Nov 23, 2011, 6:51:52 PM11/23/11
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to take.
Superdave
Nov 23, 2011, 7:33:31 PM11/23/11
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Pelle Svanslös
Nov 24, 2011, 1:23:10 PM11/24/11
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Pelle Svanslös
Nov 24, 2011, 1:29:54 PM11/24/11
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> for saying the top players most likely use
> PED's and yet you have no trouble saying Federer is into match fixing?
How come you're so starry eyed all of a sudden? It's all so obvious.
Forstmann + gambling + Rogi + IMG + draw fixing + plywood. A syndicate
of mutual backpatting.
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arnab.z@gmail
Nov 24, 2011, 1:44:32 PM11/24/11
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win against his long-time rival. It was such a pleasant surprise.
You, on the other hand, took it quite hard it seems. You just couldn't
believe that something like this could happen. Draw fixing? LOL.
arnab.z@gmail
Nov 24, 2011, 1:46:01 PM11/24/11
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>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Forstmann is dead now and won't be doing much gambling or match
> > fixing.
>
> > So you were all over me
>
> Er, no.
>
> > for saying the top players most likely use
> > PED's and yet you have no trouble saying Federer is into match fixing?
>
> It's draw fixing, BTW.
>
> How come you're so starry eyed all of a sudden? It's all so obvious.
> Forstmann + gambling + Rogi + IMG + draw fixing + plywood. A syndicate
> of mutual backpatting.
>
> --http://memedepot.com/uploads/2000/2098_steamboat.gif
LOL. You just can't accept the loss. Come on, it wasn't that
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Forstmann is dead now and won't be doing much gambling or match
> > fixing.
>
> > So you were all over me
>
> Er, no.
>
> > for saying the top players most likely use
> > PED's and yet you have no trouble saying Federer is into match fixing?
>
> It's draw fixing, BTW.
>
> How come you're so starry eyed all of a sudden? It's all so obvious.
> Forstmann + gambling + Rogi + IMG + draw fixing + plywood. A syndicate
> of mutual backpatting.
>
> --http://memedepot.com/uploads/2000/2098_steamboat.gif
devastating. Just a round robin match. Doesn't mean a whole lot in the
longer scheme of things. LOL.
Pelle Svanslös
Nov 24, 2011, 2:05:19 PM11/24/11
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exo, plywood, ...
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arnab.z@gmail
Nov 24, 2011, 3:16:00 PM11/24/11
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>
> >>>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >>> Forstmann is dead now and won't be doing much gambling or match
> >>> fixing.
>
> >>> So you were all over me
>
> >> Er, no.
>
> >>> for saying the top players most likely use
> >>> PED's and yet you have no trouble saying Federer is into match fixing?
>
> >> It's draw fixing, BTW.
>
> >> How come you're so starry eyed all of a sudden? It's all so obvious.
> >> Forstmann + gambling + Rogi + IMG + draw fixing + plywood. A syndicate
> >> of mutual backpatting.
>
> >> --http://memedepot.com/uploads/2000/2098_steamboat.gif
>
> > LOL. You just can't accept the loss. Come on, it wasn't that
> > devastating. Just a round robin match. Doesn't mean a whole lot in the
> > longer scheme of things. LOL.
>
> What's going on!? I actually agree with you: A RR match,
Correct.
> >>>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >>> Forstmann is dead now and won't be doing much gambling or match
> >>> fixing.
>
> >>> So you were all over me
>
> >> Er, no.
>
> >>> for saying the top players most likely use
> >>> PED's and yet you have no trouble saying Federer is into match fixing?
>
> >> It's draw fixing, BTW.
>
> >> How come you're so starry eyed all of a sudden? It's all so obvious.
> >> Forstmann + gambling + Rogi + IMG + draw fixing + plywood. A syndicate
> >> of mutual backpatting.
>
> >> --http://memedepot.com/uploads/2000/2098_steamboat.gif
>
> > LOL. You just can't accept the loss. Come on, it wasn't that
> > devastating. Just a round robin match. Doesn't mean a whole lot in the
> > longer scheme of things. LOL.
>
> What's going on!? I actually agree with you: A RR match,
> a meaningless
> exo, plywood, ...
>
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