Kneedal is fine and playing his clay game

PeteWasLucky

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Jul 3, 2017, 11:41:54 AM7/3/17

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Looks good so far.

TT

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Jul 3, 2017, 11:56:57 AM7/3/17

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PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 3.7.2017 klo 18:41:
> Looks good so far.
>

Yeah, playing well.

What do you mean by 'playing his clay game'?

At least he's returning two-three meters closer to baseline than at RG.

Carey

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Jul 3, 2017, 12:09:47 PM7/3/17

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On Monday, July 3, 2017 at 8:41:54 AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> Looks good so far.

...and Cilic going through his nemesis Kohli like a hot knife through butter.
Did Nadal generously share his spinach?

TT

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Jul 3, 2017, 12:46:42 PM7/3/17

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Pretty funny coming from a fedfan...

But yeah, I'm sure Cilic's mother has been to the pharmacy.

me

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Jul 3, 2017, 12:51:14 PM7/3/17

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If I were a Nadal fan I would want Cilic to lose this match. Cilic is most dangerous player outside the top 4 seeds. On his day he can blow anyone away on a fast surface.

The Iceberg

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Jul 3, 2017, 12:57:42 PM7/3/17

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LOL Fed would be laughing his head off if he sees Cilic in he draw!

Court_1

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Jul 3, 2017, 1:04:51 PM7/3/17

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I know Millman is a clown but I tuned in to watch Nadal for about 15 minutes and he looks ominous. I think it will be the Nadal Express Train to the final. Choo-choo!

me

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Jul 3, 2017, 1:05:21 PM7/3/17

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I doubt it. Cilic destroyed Federer at the 2014 US open. On his day, he has the game to beat anyone.

Court_1

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Jul 3, 2017, 1:12:59 PM7/3/17

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On Monday, July 3, 2017 at 1:05:21 PM UTC-4, me wrote:

> I doubt it. Cilic destroyed Federer at the 2014 US open. On his day, he has the game to beat anyone.

Yes, but the problem is "his days" vs the Big Four are few and far between.

TT

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Jul 3, 2017, 1:19:22 PM7/3/17

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Court_1 kirjoitti 3.7.2017 klo 20:04:
> I know Millman is a clown but I tuned in to watch Nadal for about 15 minutes and he looks ominous. I think it will be the Nadal Express Train to the final. Choo-choo!
>

:)

Let's face it, he's no match for Donald Young.

me

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Jul 3, 2017, 1:19:47 PM7/3/17

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Agreed. However my point is that if I were Nadal (who currently in great form), I would rather see Kohlschreiber than Cilic in my quarter. Kohlschreiber is only a threat if Nadal plays badly.

TT

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Jul 3, 2017, 1:23:47 PM7/3/17

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Then again when they do they often bunch up. I think his mother has
visited pharmacy again.

Cilic currently 5th favourite to win Wimbledon at Betfair, after Big
Four. Definitely not a man one would like to face at QF.

But hey, Giovanna told us that Rafa has a cakewalk so...

Gracchus

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Jul 3, 2017, 2:01:28 PM7/3/17

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On Monday, July 3, 2017 at 10:04:51 AM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:

> I know Millman is a clown but I tuned in to watch Nadal for about 15 minutes and he looks ominous. I think it will be the Nadal Express Train to the final. Choo-choo!

Murray, Tsonga, Fognini, and even Nishikori crushed their stooge opponents by similar scores. You may end up being right about Nadal, but keep things in perspective.

Whisper

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Jul 4, 2017, 7:41:41 AM7/4/17

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I disagree with this modern day sentiment of ducking/avoiding dangerous
players, being fearful etc. The greats should relish playing the
toughest guys as much as possible.

There's a Borg v McEnroe movie coming out 40 yrs after the event. You
won't see any Borg v Tanner, Federer v Bagditis movies any time soon.

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Court_1

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Jul 4, 2017, 7:49:16 AM7/4/17

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On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 at 7:41:41 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
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> I disagree with this modern day sentiment of ducking/avoiding dangerous
> players, being fearful etc. The greats should relish playing the
> toughest guys as much as possible.

It seems like Nadal disagrees. As he allegedly said:

"If I reach the final, I'd like to face a different opponent than Federer," said Nadal, who beat Federer in the 2008 final after defeats in 2006 and 2007.

"I don't like to face best players in the final and I think I played against Roger already enough times this year."

http://au.eurosport.com/tennis/wimbledon/2017/rafael-nadal-i-don-t-want-to-face-roger-federer-if-i-reach-final_sto6240127/story.shtml

me

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Jul 4, 2017, 8:27:38 AM7/4/17

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I really don't find Nadal particularly honest when he says these kind of things. I'm sure he actually relishes the prospect of beating Federer in another slam final. His false modesty gets very tiresome. Heck, if he ended up facing Gasquet in the final, you can be sure he would spout some nonsense about having to be at his very best to have a chance against such a strong player.

undecided

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Jul 5, 2017, 2:41:18 PM7/5/17

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On Monday, July 3, 2017 at 1:04:51 PM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:
> I know Millman is a clown but I tuned in to watch Nadal for about 15 minutes and he looks ominous. I think it will be the Nadal Express Train to the final. Choo-choo!

I agree, his BH was scary good, movement was fantastic. Tough to derail this train I think.

arahim

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Jul 5, 2017, 5:01:00 PM7/5/17

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Nadal is catching up with Federer in the odds (having played and won one more match)
Roger Federer 3.4
Rafael Nadal 3.75
Novak Djokovic 6.0
Andy Murray 6.5

John Liang

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Jul 5, 2017, 6:11:06 PM7/5/17

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I don't think the tournament actually starts for Nadal until the next round. Millman is a journeyman and Young has a very good year so far but both don't have a game that should trouble Nadal. The next few round he will be coming up against players who are the type that can be unpredictable and can run hot and cold.

undecided

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Jul 6, 2017, 1:48:32 PM7/6/17

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He does have a Khachanov and Muller back to back. One is a hungry youngster, the other a grass court specialist. Both dangerous but I think a 100% Nadal that is firing all cylinders will steamroll both.