Omg, how did we miss this conclusion?

PeteWasLucky

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Apr 26, 2017, 1:54:22 PM4/26/17

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Federer would have should have could have won 28 slams if he didn't play tune-ups full-arsed.

He simply drained himself all year long and didn't focus on slams primarily.

He would have many cygs as well.

Poor djokovic too and partially Nadal, they would have won more than 14 slams for sure.

TT

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Apr 26, 2017, 1:58:31 PM4/26/17

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And Murray too. Everyone would have twice the amount of slams.
8 slams per year, in fact.

PeteWasLucky

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Apr 26, 2017, 2:13:02 PM4/26/17

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> And Murray too. Everyone would have twice the amount of slams.
8 slams per year, in fact.

I agree, Murray wasted himself on nonsense

soccerfan777

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Apr 26, 2017, 2:43:49 PM4/26/17

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And Lendl too. If he didn't play 35 tournaments a year he would have 8 slams more. Same for Connors, Borg, McEnroe. I bet all of them would have had more than 14 slams, reducing Sampras to Tier 2 where he really belongs.

PeteWasLucky

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Apr 26, 2017, 3:01:20 PM4/26/17

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> And Lendl too. If he didn't play 35 tournaments a year he would have 8 slams more. Same for Connors, Borg, McEnroe. I bet all of them would have had more than 14 slams, reducing Sampras to Tier 2 where he really belongs.

Here you go.

Lendl was consumed winning every match and it's unfair even to compare the performance of a player that focused on four tournaments a year with others that competed everyday in every tournament.

Shakes

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Apr 26, 2017, 4:05:35 PM4/26/17

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What happened to you, Waleed ? Another thread for bait ?

Whisper

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Apr 26, 2017, 4:13:39 PM4/26/17

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Only if they had Sampras' immense talent. Today's players have no choice
but to play 100% in every match as any slight drop in form means no more
slams or even tune-ups. Look at Djoker & Murray for eg - only a tiny
drop in intensity & they are instantly almost journeymen.

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PeteWasLucky

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Apr 26, 2017, 4:16:58 PM4/26/17

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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail> Wrote in message:

Oh what are you talking about?!!!
Federer won 18 slams being wasted on every tune-up while Sampras
won only 14 slams playing half-assed in tune-ups.

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PeteWasLucky

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Apr 26, 2017, 4:17:25 PM4/26/17

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Shakes <kvcs...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

No bait at all, very logical conclusion.

Court_1

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Apr 26, 2017, 4:19:33 PM4/26/17

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LOL. He can't help himself! Just watch how many pro Fed/anti-Nadal threads he will create if Nadal sweeps the clay season! But of course his threads the other day talking about how Cedric Mourier killed Goffin's chances to beat Nadal weren't meant to imply that Nadal is a dishonest cheater who didn't deserve to win. What are the chances he would have created these same threads if Federer had won the match under the same circumstances? *sarcasm, rolls eyes*

Court_1

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Apr 26, 2017, 4:23:13 PM4/26/17

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LOL at the suggestion that Federer doesn't have the immense talent Federer does! Stop being nuts!

Shakes

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Apr 26, 2017, 4:24:46 PM4/26/17

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On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 1:17:25 PM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> Shakes <kvcs...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

> >

> > What happened to you, Waleed ? Another thread for bait ?
> >
>
> No bait at all, very logical conclusion.
> --
>

Ok, sure.

PeteWasLucky

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Apr 26, 2017, 4:28:36 PM4/26/17

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Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:

I think both Federers have much more talent than the half-assed
Sampy :)

PeteWasLucky

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Apr 26, 2017, 4:29:48 PM4/26/17

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Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:

You are a genius, God help your husband.

*skriptis

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Apr 26, 2017, 4:30:03 PM4/26/17

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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail> Wrote in message:

> On 27/04/2017 3:54 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:
>> Federer would have should have could have won 28 slams if he didn't play tune-ups full-arsed.
>>
>> He simply drained himself all year long and didn't focus on slams primarily.
>>
>> He would have many cygs as well.
>>
>> Poor djokovic too and partially Nadal, they would have won more than 14 slams for sure.
>>
>
>
> Only if they had Sampras' immense talent. Today's players have no choice
> but to play 100% in every match as any slight drop in form means no more
> slams or even tune-ups. Look at Djoker & Murray for eg - only a tiny
> drop in intensity & they are instantly almost journeymen.
>

True.

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Apr 26, 2017, 4:30:03 PM4/26/17

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Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:

you're improving in your posts, this one more coherent than
usually.
Keep up.
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soccerfan777

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Apr 26, 2017, 4:34:51 PM4/26/17

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On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 3:13:39 PM UTC-5, Whisper wrote:
> On 27/04/2017 3:54 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> > Federer would have should have could have won 28 slams if he didn't play tune-ups full-arsed.
> >
> > He simply drained himself all year long and didn't focus on slams primarily.
> >
> > He would have many cygs as well.
> >
> > Poor djokovic too and partially Nadal, they would have won more than 14 slams for sure.
> >
>
>
> Only if they had Sampras' immense talent.

Talent's had zippo to do with it. Rios didn't win any slam. McEnroe won only 7.

PeteWasLucky

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Apr 26, 2017, 4:54:37 PM4/26/17

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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail> Wrote in message:

> On 27/04/2017 3:54 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:
>> Federer would have should have could have won 28 slams if he didn't play tune-ups full-arsed.
>>
>> He simply drained himself all year long and didn't focus on slams primarily.
>>
>> He would have many cygs as well.
>>
>> Poor djokovic too and partially Nadal, they would have won more than 14 slams for sure.
>>
>
>
> Only if they had Sampras' immense talent. Today's players have no choice
> but to play 100% in every match as any slight drop in form means no more
> slams or even tune-ups. Look at Djoker & Murray for eg - only a tiny
> drop in intensity & they are instantly almost journeymen.

This means Sampras talent protected him from joining journeymen
all his career since he was winning three slams and tons of
titles every year in his career?

>
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Court_1

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Apr 26, 2017, 6:49:27 PM4/26/17

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On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 4:29:48 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:

> You are a genius, God help your husband.

Don't try and turn this around on me. My husband doesn't try the type of BS you try on this ng, i.e. weaseling out of things when everybody knows your true intentions.

I'm right on the money and you know it. There's nothing that irritates me more than a person who isn't honest and up front with things. As I said, we all know what you were implying with the Goffin/Mourier posts, i.e. that the Mourier call likely stopped Goffin from winning the match and that Nadal is a cheating louse who didn't deserve to win the match. We also all know that if Federer did the exact same thing Nadal did by not getting involved with the umpire's call on the other side of the net(which I guarantee you Federer would have done as well) that you would not have made three threads about how Goffin was ripped off.

Stop the bullshit. Come out and say what you are thinking and don't be a coward.

Scott

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Apr 26, 2017, 6:55:22 PM4/26/17

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LOL. Including Mirka? Surely none of the twins just yet.

PeteWasLucky

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Apr 26, 2017, 8:09:57 PM4/26/17

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Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:

I will summarize it for you, you are stupid even it's not the
right word.

Court_1

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Apr 26, 2017, 8:46:27 PM4/26/17

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On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 8:09:57 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> Court_1 Wrote in message:

That's the best you've got?

I hit the nail on the head. You have trouble admitting when you act like a
weasel. You couldn't admit you were cheating in the David W contest even though the time stamp proved you entered your new picks after the tournament started.
About a month ago you denied that you ever called me a bitch even when I produced the post where you said it. Now you are trying to indirectly say Nadal would have lost the match and he's a cheat but instead of being up front about it you try and disguise your true agenda.

Just come out and say you don't like Nadal and you really don't want him to win the FO and gain momentum. People would respect that more. We all know you are thinking that. Whisper, Shakes and StephenJ all called you out on your BS as well and yet you still try and deny your true intentions. It's annoying. We also know that if Federer did what Nadal did in that match vs Goffin, you would have been as silent as a mouse. Own up to it already and don't be like some other posters on this ng who aren't capable of admitting when they are wrong, make inconsistent statements, or have an anti-player agenda.

Carey

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Apr 26, 2017, 9:35:26 PM4/26/17

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uncle. yeesh.

PeteWasLucky

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Apr 26, 2017, 10:09:21 PM4/26/17

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Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:

I didn't even read a word, I see like 100 lines, you are crazy,
get a grip, really try, it's hard I know.

RaspingDrive

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Apr 27, 2017, 12:05:12 AM4/27/17

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So, we now agree all of your righteous indignation over that incorrect line call was a cover to hide your displeasure arising out of Nadal's clay resurgence?! ;)

Court_1

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Apr 27, 2017, 12:11:24 AM4/27/17

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On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 10:09:21 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> Court_1 com> Wrote in message:

That's your typical coward comeback. You read every word. What a BS artist you are. You were called out by myself, Whisper, Shakes and StephenJ and you still continue to deny and deflect. Pathetic.

PeteWasLucky

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Apr 27, 2017, 12:15:03 AM4/27/17

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RaspingDrive <raspin...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

Court knows my intentions, don't ask me, ask her. Not only this,
but she will harass the person until he agrees.

Also ask her what my intention was when I posted this, I'd like
to know https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/rec.sport.tenni
s/ZyJPX__XjrM

Or when I post my objection to other things that I believe are
wrong and have to be fixed.

PeteWasLucky

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Apr 27, 2017, 1:11:48 AM4/27/17

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Hey, do I get an apology? Does she ever admit she was wrong?

TT

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Apr 27, 2017, 6:42:50 AM4/27/17

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27.4.2017, 7:15, PeteWasLucky kirjoitti:
> Court knows my intentions, don't ask me, ask her.

Hahaha

The Iceberg

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Apr 27, 2017, 8:41:45 AM4/27/17

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He the same with his anti-Trump posts, he voted Hillary and was a big fan of hers and is upset cos of the result, but he pretend it cos of the good of the country etc what you've written is good cos he need some electroshock style therapy to help him get over stuff.

RaspingDrive

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Apr 27, 2017, 8:45:52 AM4/27/17

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On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 8:41:45 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
> He the same with his anti-Trump posts, he voted Hillary and was a big fan of hers and is upset cos of the result, but he pretend it cos of the good of the country etc what you've written is good cos he need some electroshock style therapy to help him get over stuff.

Loony Icey, whose post are you responding to? Presumably PWL? Brian Lawrence gave you a good spanking in some post yesterday, did you have any answers? ;) Also, do you still consider me an expert on British economy? I'm sure in your illusory world I am this congenital anti-British poster, right?

The Iceberg

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Apr 27, 2017, 8:49:19 AM4/27/17

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Don't be silly, PeteWasLucky loves Nadal and is not biased at all! :D

The Iceberg

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Apr 27, 2017, 9:06:47 AM4/27/17

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Was replying to Court1 about PWL, but since when did Brian give moi a spanking lol he often make me laugh but he can't get away from the Fact that he always posted criticising Trump yet didn't do it a single time about his fave Hillary.

The Iceberg

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Apr 27, 2017, 9:08:45 AM4/27/17

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Oh yeah well done on your predictions about the Brit economy too lolol

RaspingDrive

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Apr 27, 2017, 10:25:36 AM4/27/17

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On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 9:08:45 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
> Oh yeah well done on your predictions about the Brit economy too lolol

Your responses are becoming less and less assertive, in fact more and more meek like Rafa's returns on HC. You haven't given me ONE link where I talk about British economy. Don't bother, you never will be able to give one.

RaspingDrive

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Apr 27, 2017, 10:27:01 AM4/27/17

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On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 9:06:47 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
> Was replying to Court1 about PWL, but since when did Brian give moi a spanking lol he often make me laugh but he can't get away from the Fact that he always posted criticising Trump yet didn't do it a single time about his fave Hillary.

You are this comical character that appears in Tamil films who gets beaten all the time yet gets up and pretends to emerge unscathed.

Gerrit 't Hart

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Apr 27, 2017, 10:41:36 AM4/27/17

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On 27/04/2017 1:54 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> Federer would have should have could have won 28 slams if he didn't play tune-ups full-arsed.
>
> He simply drained himself all year long and didn't focus on slams primarily.
>
> He would have many cygs as well.
>
> Poor djokovic too and partially Nadal, they would have won more than 14 slams for sure.
>

And Laver would have had four (yes 4) CYGSs, something all these
Johnny-come-latelies have not even done ONCE!

soccerfan777

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Apr 27, 2017, 11:08:44 AM4/27/17

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Vadivelu?

Guypers

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Apr 27, 2017, 11:20:45 AM4/27/17

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Laver played in a clown era idiot!!

RaspingDrive

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Apr 27, 2017, 11:30:34 AM4/27/17

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Yes! Icey is Vadivelu, though he never intended to be like that! The real one is my favorite comedian in an appreciative way, as he is for the 70 million Tamil populace worldwide.

soccerfan777

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Apr 27, 2017, 11:42:51 AM4/27/17

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I like Senthil-Goundamani comedy better. Even Santhanam is a bit boring and predictable. Vadivelu has never been my cup of tea. Vivek is okay.

My favorite all-time of course is JP Chandrababu. He was a great singer and dancer too. Too bad his popularity didn't last long and he died so young in abject poverty.

RaspingDrive

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Apr 27, 2017, 11:48:48 AM4/27/17

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On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 11:42:51 AM UTC-4, soccerfan777 wrote:
> On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 10:30:34 AM UTC-5, RaspingDrive wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 11:08:44 AM UTC-4, soccerfan777 wrote:
> > > On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 9:27:01 AM UTC-5, RaspingDrive wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 9:06:47 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
> > > > > Was replying to Court1 about PWL, but since when did Brian give moi a spanking lol he often make me laugh but he can't get away from the Fact that he always posted criticising Trump yet didn't do it a single time about his fave Hillary.
> > > >
> > > > You are this comical character that appears in Tamil films who gets beaten all the time yet gets up and pretends to emerge unscathed.
> > >
> > > Vadivelu?
> >
> > Yes! Icey is Vadivelu, though he never intended to be like that! The real one is my favorite comedian in an appreciative way, as he is for the 70 million Tamil populace worldwide.
>
> I like Senthil-Goundamani comedy better. Even Santhanam is a bit boring and predictable. Vadivelu has never been my cup of tea. Vivek is okay.

They are all good, but to me Vadivelu is the King.

> My favorite all-time of course is JP Chandrababu. He was a great singer and dancer too. Too bad his popularity didn't last long and he died so young in abject poverty.

Chandrababu's sister was living opposite our house in a Chennai suburb way back in the eighties. He was an unlucky chap.

soccerfan777

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Apr 27, 2017, 11:54:59 AM4/27/17

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I heard he has issues with MGR which reduces his chances in getting movies. And also his wife was in love with some other dude and he let her go so that she can go back to her lover. His life was a stark contrast to his on-scre en image.

soccerfan777

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Apr 27, 2017, 11:55:47 AM4/27/17

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On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 10:48:48 AM UTC-5, RaspingDrive wrote:
> On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 11:42:51 AM UTC-4, soccerfan777 wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 10:30:34 AM UTC-5, RaspingDrive wrote:
> > > On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 11:08:44 AM UTC-4, soccerfan777 wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 9:27:01 AM UTC-5, RaspingDrive wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 9:06:47 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
> > > > > > Was replying to Court1 about PWL, but since when did Brian give moi a spanking lol he often make me laugh but he can't get away from the Fact that he always posted criticising Trump yet didn't do it a single time about his fave Hillary.
> > > > >
> > > > > You are this comical character that appears in Tamil films who gets beaten all the time yet gets up and pretends to emerge unscathed.
> > > >
> > > > Vadivelu?
> > >
> > > Yes! Icey is Vadivelu, though he never intended to be like that! The real one is my favorite comedian in an appreciative way, as he is for the 70 million Tamil populace worldwide.
> >
> > I like Senthil-Goundamani comedy better. Even Santhanam is a bit boring and predictable. Vadivelu has never been my cup of tea. Vivek is okay.
>
> They are all good, but to me Vadivelu is the King.

His comedy is kind of Three Stooges like. Its funny if you are a teenager. No offense if you like him, though ;-)

The Iceberg

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Apr 27, 2017, 12:23:21 PM4/27/17

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Bet I always get the girl though, you a bit envious of that, eh

The Iceberg

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Apr 27, 2017, 12:25:14 PM4/27/17

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Cool, Raspy reckons I'm The King!

soccerfan777

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Apr 27, 2017, 12:28:51 PM4/27/17

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On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 11:23:21 AM UTC-5, The Iceberg wrote:
> Bet I always get the girl though, you a bit envious of that, eh

Comedians in Indian movies don't get the girl. They get slapped around a lot though, fall in ditches, have time-bombs go off on their faces inadvertently and most of the time end up with broken legs in hospital.

jdeluise

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Apr 27, 2017, 12:35:29 PM4/27/17

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Do they have to deal with roving bands of Fedfans too?

RaspingDrive

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Apr 27, 2017, 12:57:46 PM4/27/17

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On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 11:55:47 AM UTC-4, soccerfan777 wrote:
> On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 10:48:48 AM UTC-5, RaspingDrive wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 11:42:51 AM UTC-4, soccerfan777 wrote:
> > > On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 10:30:34 AM UTC-5, RaspingDrive wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 11:08:44 AM UTC-4, soccerfan777 wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 9:27:01 AM UTC-5, RaspingDrive wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 9:06:47 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
> > > > > > > Was replying to Court1 about PWL, but since when did Brian give moi a spanking lol he often make me laugh but he can't get away from the Fact that he always posted criticising Trump yet didn't do it a single time about his fave Hillary.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You are this comical character that appears in Tamil films who gets beaten all the time yet gets up and pretends to emerge unscathed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Vadivelu?
> > > >
> > > > Yes! Icey is Vadivelu, though he never intended to be like that! The real one is my favorite comedian in an appreciative way, as he is for the 70 million Tamil populace worldwide.
> > >
> > > I like Senthil-Goundamani comedy better. Even Santhanam is a bit boring and predictable. Vadivelu has never been my cup of tea. Vivek is okay.
> >
> > They are all good, but to me Vadivelu is the King.
>
> His comedy is kind of Three Stooges like. Its funny if you are a teenager. No

I usually watch Vadivelu on Youtube when I want to have a good laugh. Watch Arasu comedy, simply hilarious. Also Encounter Ekambaram (Marudhmali, I guess) absolutely smashing funny. But you should know Tamil well for that :)

RaspingDrive

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Apr 27, 2017, 12:58:11 PM4/27/17

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On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 12:25:14 PM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
> Cool, Raspy reckons I'm The King!

You are the King in pretending you are not wounded ;)

soccerfan777

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Apr 27, 2017, 1:11:14 PM4/27/17

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Yes they always get beaten up by a mob for valid reasons ;-)

RaspingDrive

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Apr 27, 2017, 4:00:48 PM4/27/17

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The following is for your watching pleasure:

1) Vadivelu as Encounter Ekambaram in Marudhamalai (really hilarious, Vadivelu speaking English)
2) Vadivelu as an iyer ambi in Arasu (outstanding comedy if you know some history of Tamil cinema and some Iyer Tamil)

Will give you more later, now have to go.

Shakes

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Apr 27, 2017, 6:01:43 PM4/27/17

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On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 1:00:48 PM UTC-7, RaspingDrive wrote:

> 1) Vadivelu as Encounter Ekambaram in Marudhamalai (really hilarious, Vadivelu speaking English)
> 2) Vadivelu as an iyer ambi in Arasu (outstanding comedy if you know some history of Tamil cinema and some Iyer Tamil)
>
> Will give you more later, now have to go.

No offense meant at all, but I am with Raja on this. Based on my relatively small exposure to Tamil movies, I prefer Senthil-Goundamani (even Vivek is fine) to Vadivelu. Vadivelu reminds me of Telugu's Brahmanandam - a lot of facial antics and loud dialogues. Of course, to each his or her own as this is subjective.

Personally, I prefer the comedy in Malayalam movies (at least till the mid-90's) to either Telugu or Tamil movie comedy. It's much more understated. Mohanlal and Sreenivasan combo in the late-80's and early 90's was terrific in it's understatement and rapport.

RaspingDrive

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Apr 27, 2017, 7:18:51 PM4/27/17

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On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 6:01:43 PM UTC-4, Shakes wrote:
> On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 1:00:48 PM UTC-7, RaspingDrive wrote:
>
> > 1) Vadivelu as Encounter Ekambaram in Marudhamalai (really hilarious, Vadivelu speaking English)
> > 2) Vadivelu as an iyer ambi in Arasu (outstanding comedy if you know some history of Tamil cinema and some Iyer Tamil)
> >
> > Will give you more later, now have to go.
>
> No offense meant at all, but I am with Raja on this. Based on my relatively small exposure to Tamil movies, I prefer Senthil-Goundamani (even Vivek is fine) to Vadivelu. Vadivelu reminds me of Telugu's Brahmanandam - a lot of facial antics and loud dialogues. Of course, to each his or her own as this is subjective.

No offense taken at all. Many Vadivelu memes (vada poche, building strong-u basement weak-u, enna vechu komedy keemedi panalaye, and many many more) are commonplace and widely quoted in TN and among Tamil folks. He is an unstoppable force! Vadivelu's English is simply hilarious. Many of his dialogues need mastery of the local slang.

> Personally, I prefer the comedy in Malayalam movies (at least till the mid-90's) to either Telugu or Tamil movie comedy. It's much more understated. Mohanlal and Sreenivasan combo in the late-80's and early 90's was terrific in it's understatement and rapport.

I watch Malayalam movies all the time these days. They are nice.

bob

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Apr 27, 2017, 7:57:12 PM4/27/17

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On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:58:32 +0300, TT <as...@dprk.kp> wrote:

>26.4.2017, 20:54, PeteWasLucky kirjoitti:
>> Federer would have should have could have won 28 slams if he didn't play tune-ups full-arsed.
>>
>> He simply drained himself all year long and didn't focus on slams primarily.
>>
>> He would have many cygs as well.
>>
>> Poor djokovic too and partially Nadal, they would have won more than 14 slams for sure.
>>
>

>And Murray too. Everyone would have twice the amount of slams.
>8 slams per year, in fact.

9 every 4th year...

bob

RaspingDrive

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Apr 27, 2017, 8:52:45 PM4/27/17

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Raja, Vadivelu ordering uthappam in dubakoor hotel (dubakoor is local for something of dubious authenticity) below -- very funny. It is all about language:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ltor26JiX3E

RaspingDrive

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Apr 27, 2017, 8:58:08 PM4/27/17

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Raja, have you seen this?
Vadivelu says" dangerous pello (fellow), ivana careful-a handle pannanum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XojiZC3c9TM

soccerfan777

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Apr 27, 2017, 9:48:08 PM4/27/17

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I know "dubakoor". I have a lot of friends from Chennai. Chennai slang is funny.

Whisper

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Apr 28, 2017, 4:33:11 AM4/28/17

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On 27/04/2017 10:49 PM, The Iceberg wrote:
> Don't be silly, PeteWasLucky loves Nadal and is not biased at all! :D
>

Yes, he's posted many furious posts when Federer got lucky line calls.

: )

Whisper

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Apr 28, 2017, 4:47:23 AM4/28/17

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Laver played in the hardest era of all time - chock full of all time
greats. Still he won 200 tournaments (will Fed get half way?), 17
titles in 1 yr as well as 17 doubles etc. The guy is as close to
perfect as we've seen in this game so far. Fed is nearly 50% of that level.

Scott

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Apr 28, 2017, 6:20:51 AM4/28/17

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Incorrect analysis. The players Laver beat couldn't take a set off Roger. They certainly weren't topspin factories wielding snowshoes for racquets.

The Iceberg

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Apr 28, 2017, 6:55:56 AM4/28/17

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Hahha that would be very funny (and scary) if they did!!

Guypers

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Apr 28, 2017, 7:17:26 AM4/28/17

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R

We know what Connors did with him and Rosewall, and Connors is tier 2!!!!!

The Iceberg

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Apr 28, 2017, 9:12:20 AM4/28/17

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Lol you Fedfans reckons Connors would laze around like the current crop of players.

Whisper

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Apr 28, 2017, 10:12:36 AM4/28/17

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Pretty sure most of them would beat Roger comfortably if Roger played in
Laver era.

soccerfan777

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Apr 28, 2017, 10:30:46 AM4/28/17

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I am pretty sure of the reverse.

Whisper

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Apr 28, 2017, 10:37:02 AM4/28/17

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I saw old Newcombe beat peak Connors in '75 AO final the other day.

You do realize Connors was 18 yrs younger than Rosewall in '74 right?
Also Rosewall only entered 9 tournaments that yr as he was essentially a
part time player being 40 yrs old that yr, yet reached 3 finals
including Wimbledon & USO.

Do you also realize Rosewall missed 46 slams at his peak due to pro
tour? Think about that number. *46*. That's more than 11 yrs of your
peak where you didn't enter slams.

That would be like if Federer won Wimbledon 2003 & then joined pro tour
& not playing slams again until 2015. He would have 2 slams to his
name, not 18. Rosewall still managed to win 8 slams.

Rosewall played the Wimbledon singles final in 1954 & also 1974 - 20 yrs
apart. Roger can match that if he makes 2023 Wimbledon final.

Rosewall won AO in 1953 & 1972 - 19 yrs between wins.

Laver & Rosewall would both have 23+ slams if they didn't skip all the
slams in their best yrs.

*skriptis

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Whisper <beav...@ozemail.com> Wrote in message:

That's why it's fair to count all majors for cross era
comparisons, it's not about position of any of these guys, but
you get the big picture.

Roswall, 28
Laver, Federer, 25
Sampras 23,
Tilden, 22
Emerson, McEnroe, 20
Nadal, 19
Cochet, Djokovic 18.

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soccerfan777

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Apr 28, 2017, 12:11:19 PM4/28/17

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Tennis wasn't this physical back then.

John Liang

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Apr 28, 2017, 12:23:36 PM4/28/17

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If that is your big picture you must be a lousy painter. Please list the majors these players won. Sampras won 14 majors and where did he get 23 major from ? Emerson is lucky to be event on the list, he could not win a single open era grand slams.

Scott

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Apr 28, 2017, 12:25:36 PM4/28/17

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You need to distinguish between credible tennis analysis and fanboism. Rosewall would NOT defeat Fed on any surface, at any time.

Whisper

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Apr 28, 2017, 12:55:26 PM4/28/17

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It was more skilful back then.

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*skriptis

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Apr 28, 2017, 1:01:04 PM4/28/17

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John Liang <jlia...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

Can't you count?

Sampras
14 ITF majors
2 ITF YEC
2 ITF Davis cup
5 ATP/ITF YEC
Total 23

Emerson
12 ITF majors
8 ITF Davis cup
Total 20

Federer
18 ITF majors
1 ITF Davis cup
6 ATP/ITF YEC
Total 25

bob

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Apr 28, 2017, 7:07:29 PM4/28/17

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On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 15:01:42 -0700 (PDT), Shakes <kvcs...@gmail.com>
wrote:

guess this doesn't qualify as an indian movie but i loved life of pi.

bob

RaspingDrive

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Apr 28, 2017, 9:44:51 PM4/28/17

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It is like eating Indian food in the USA -- food that is served so that it is acceptable to the American palate. Maybe for real Indian food you must travel to India, or visit an Indian household in the US and ask for home-cooked stuff. You can watch some Americans of the US Consulate, Chennai, eating South Indian food served on banana leaves, using their hands on YouTube! There, it is hilarious to watch the naive American kid eat from his left hand, since it is uncommon for Indians to eat with their left hand. Likewise, for hard core regional films, you need to be a native speaker to fully appreciate the nuances, whether they be in dialogue delivery, implied meaning, or other stuff that is peculiar to the culture's ethos. Not easy. Same with Indians viewing American films although they are probably better exposed, having watched many (in fact, most!) back in India itself and also have the advantage of knowing more than a smattering of English. For me it is now a reversal of sorts in the sense that I love to keep in touch with my roots so, when time permits, watch South Indian movies and some Hindi movies as well.

RaspingDrive

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Apr 28, 2017, 9:57:05 PM4/28/17

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DO you know a few (soft) swear words in Tamil? Like kena payale, poda punnakku, paradesi naaye, dubukku, etc? What Tamil do you speak, if any? Karaikudi, Coimbatore, Tirunelveli, Madurai, Tanjore, Chennai, ...

soccerfan777

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Apr 28, 2017, 10:03:05 PM4/28/17

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I know the worst words in Tamil. If *dipshit keeps pissing me off I might start using them on him.

RaspingDrive

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Apr 28, 2017, 10:14:53 PM4/28/17

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On Friday, April 28, 2017 at 7:07:29 PM UTC-4, bob wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z10U7VZ7QNM

semi-classical south Indian music mixed with the music of movies of the 1950's. You can catch a glimpse of a majestic temple and if you persist in watching the song fully, you will see at the end the kid (presumably acting the part of Genius Ramanujan) going ahhhhh in a child's lilting voice. Ramanujan has been adequately 'cosmetized' for watching pleasure. The real guy, possibly, may have been completely different and would have shunned public appearances growing up content with initiating and/or solving math problems much ahead of his times.

RaspingDrive

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Apr 28, 2017, 10:19:55 PM4/28/17

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On Friday, April 28, 2017 at 10:03:05 PM UTC-4, soccerfan777 wrote:
> I know the worst words in Tamil. If *dipshit keeps pissing me off I might start using them on him.

No offense meant, but, in the long run, you may be better served to seek truce with Skriptis, who I have noted is largely civil unless provoked by posts that insult him. Not saying that you provoked him, but I don't think he deserves to be assailed by foul Tamil words --- that's not the way you want to introduce Tamil to folks around the world :)

soccerfan777

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Apr 28, 2017, 10:53:34 PM4/28/17

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*dipshit is well-known for unprovoked insults. He usually surrounds his insults with rambling incoherent garbage. For me he is the most annoying poster in rst history even worse than the likes of Way2good, Hazelnut, Whisper etc.

John Liang

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Apr 28, 2017, 11:03:51 PM4/28/17

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Nobody consider Davis Cup a major, it is a team events not an individual event. YEC champion is not a major. The only tournaments qualified as major are 4 grand slam tournaments. Emerson who all his grand slams when the best players were in the pro tour. Emerson's position as an all time great is lower than a lot of players that won more than 6 majors in the open era.

bob

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Apr 28, 2017, 11:06:07 PM4/28/17

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i don't eat indian food just because i don't like curry, and so much
of it has curry (at least here). same topic, i know a chinese couple
the wife made us dinner a few yrs ago, authentic chinese (she lived
most of her life in china). i just couldn't swallow the food.

i reckon that's a flaw on my part, not theirs, but i didn't have any
such problem in italy. we like what we like.

bob

bob

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Apr 28, 2017, 11:07:30 PM4/28/17

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On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 19:53:31 -0700 (PDT), soccerfan777
<zepf...@gmail.com> wrote:

>*dipshit is well-known for unprovoked insults.

as are you.

bob

*skriptis

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RaspingDrive <raspin...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

> On Friday, April 28, 2017 at 7:07:29 PM UTC-4, bob wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 15:01:42 -0700 (PDT), Shakes <kvcs...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 1:00:48 PM UTC-7, RaspingDrive wrote:
>> >
>> >> 1) Vadivelu as Encounter Ekambaram in Marudhamalai (really hilarious, Vadivelu speaking English)
>> >> 2) Vadivelu as an iyer ambi in Arasu (outstanding comedy if you know some history of Tamil cinema and some Iyer Tamil)
>> >>
>> >> Will give you more later, now have to go.
>> >
>> >No offense meant at all, but I am with Raja on this. Based on my relatively small exposure to Tamil movies, I prefer Senthil-Goundamani (even Vivek is fine) to Vadivelu. Vadivelu reminds me of Telugu's Brahmanandam - a lot of facial antics and loud dialogues. Of course, to each his or her own as this is subjective.
>> >
>> >Personally, I prefer the comedy in Malayalam movies (at least till the mid-90's) to either Telugu or Tamil movie comedy. It's much more understated. Mohanlal and Sreenivasan combo in the late-80's and early 90's was terrific in it's understatement and rapport.
>>
>> guess this doesn't qualify as an indian movie but i loved life of pi.
>>
>> bob
>
> It is like eating Indian food in the USA -- food that is served so that it is acceptable to the American palate. Maybe for real Indian food you must travel to India, or visit an Indian household in the US and ask for home-cooked stuff. You can watch some Americans of the US Consulate, Chennai, eating South Indian food served on banana leaves, using their hands on YouTube! There, it is hilarious to watch the naive American kid eat from his left hand, since it is uncommon for Indians to eat with their left hand.

This sounds yuck if I'm guessing it right.
;)

>Likewise, for hard core regional films, you need to be a native speaker to fully appreciate the nuances, whether they be in dialogue delivery, implied meaning, or other stuff that is peculiar to the culture's ethos. Not easy.

That true.
So many movies can't be appreciated properly. There are few, not
many, but few films in my language that are absolute masterpieces
artistically and in every other sense but are globally unknown
and can never be fully appreciated by non native speakers.

>Likewise, for hard core regional films, you need to be a native speaker to fully appreciate the nuances, whether they be in dialogue delivery, implied meaning, or other stuff that is peculiar to the culture's ethos. Not easy. Same with Indians viewing American films although they are probably better exposed, having watched many (in fact, most!) back in India itself and also have the advantage of knowing more than a smattering of English. For me it is now a reversal of sorts in the sense that I love to keep in touch with my roots so, when time permits, watch South Indian movies and some Hindi movies as well.

*skriptis

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Apr 29, 2017, 5:01:02 AM4/29/17

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Slams, yec, Olympics and Davis cup are the big stuff,
historically, tier 1 and tier 2, or tier 1a and tier 1b titles so
you could call them majors. Of course they're not the same in
prestige, but not even slam themselves are.

But on a whole, you get a sense of a player's presence when you
count all major titles he laid his hands on.

Slams are like 90% of everything. Djokovic and Federer missing
Olympics or Nadal and Laver not winning YEC is kinda talked
about. It's not a big deal as is not completing cgs but it's
talked about. So it means that it's relevant somewhat even
historically.

Otoh Federer missing monte Carlo, or Rome, Djokovic missing
Cincinnati, is far less relevant.

John Liang

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Apr 29, 2017, 5:43:15 AM4/29/17

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Davis cup used to be big in a different era, but not in this era and it has not been big stuff since the late 90s. Its important is diminishing. Nobody consider Stefan Edberg as a 10 time major winner even if he was on the Swedish Davis Cup team that won Davis Cup in 84,85,87 and 94. It certainly never did carry the same weight as a grand slam. Tennis is pretty much an individual sport.

*skriptis

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Apr 29, 2017, 6:01:03 AM4/29/17

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Edberg also won '89 yec and demonstration Olympics so it's at
least 11 big titles, maybe 12.

When you compare him to someone from vastly different era e.g.
Rosewall what does reflect better their overall quality? 6 vs 8
in slams? Or 11 vs 28 in various major titles.

Edberg lasted couple of years, Roswall couple of decades. Total
big major titles count reflects that.

I advocate 7543 so it would be beyond retarded to say I think non
slams are equal to slams. But the total sum of titles tells as
something as well.

RaspingDrive

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Apr 29, 2017, 8:18:43 AM4/29/17

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One can prepare simple South Indian (read: vegetarian) food with just salt and one hot pepper. It can taste delicious as well. Honestly, I don't know what curry is. If we prepare a dish called potato curry, it just means boiled potatoes mixed with oil, tomatoes, green chilly (hot pepper) and salt to taste. Same with any vegetable 'curry' dish. In fact, the Italian pasta that is regularly served at my work place seems like the above but with delicious cheese added. They also serve fried rice in which they add some salt and some green or other peas. The boiled vegetable is just that -- with salt added -- and not different from what we cook at home, save add some hot peppers! I don't go near the meat section, so cannot comment on that. I also note that Americans eat a bunch of leaves called salad! Curry leaves are one type of leaves, which are not eaten raw but added into dishes for taste, but can be avoided if unwanted.

> the wife made us dinner a few yrs ago, authentic chinese (she lived
> most of her life in china). i just couldn't swallow the food.
>
> i reckon that's a flaw on my part, not theirs, but i didn't have any
> such problem in italy. we like what we like.
>
> bob

Fair enough.

RaspingDrive

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Apr 29, 2017, 8:25:42 AM4/29/17

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On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 4:30:03 AM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:
> RaspingDrive <raspin...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
> > On Friday, April 28, 2017 at 7:07:29 PM UTC-4, bob wrote:
> >> On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 15:01:42 -0700 (PDT), Shakes <kvcs...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 1:00:48 PM UTC-7, RaspingDrive wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> 1) Vadivelu as Encounter Ekambaram in Marudhamalai (really hilarious, Vadivelu speaking English)
> >> >> 2) Vadivelu as an iyer ambi in Arasu (outstanding comedy if you know some history of Tamil cinema and some Iyer Tamil)
> >> >>
> >> >> Will give you more later, now have to go.
> >> >
> >> >No offense meant at all, but I am with Raja on this. Based on my relatively small exposure to Tamil movies, I prefer Senthil-Goundamani (even Vivek is fine) to Vadivelu. Vadivelu reminds me of Telugu's Brahmanandam - a lot of facial antics and loud dialogues. Of course, to each his or her own as this is subjective.
> >> >
> >> >Personally, I prefer the comedy in Malayalam movies (at least till the mid-90's) to either Telugu or Tamil movie comedy. It's much more understated. Mohanlal and Sreenivasan combo in the late-80's and early 90's was terrific in it's understatement and rapport.
> >>
> >> guess this doesn't qualify as an indian movie but i loved life of pi.
> >>
> >> bob
> >
> > It is like eating Indian food in the USA -- food that is served so that it is acceptable to the American palate. Maybe for real Indian food you must travel to India, or visit an Indian household in the US and ask for home-cooked stuff. You can watch some Americans of the US Consulate, Chennai, eating South Indian food served on banana leaves, using their hands on YouTube! There, it is hilarious to watch the naive American kid eat from his left hand, since it is uncommon for Indians to eat with their left hand.
>
>
> This sounds yuck if I'm guessing it right.
> ;)

He he he. Your guess is good.

> >Likewise, for hard core regional films, you need to be a native speaker to fully appreciate the nuances, whether they be in dialogue delivery, implied meaning, or other stuff that is peculiar to the culture's ethos. Not easy.
>
>
> That true.
> So many movies can't be appreciated properly. There are few, not
> many, but few films in my language that are absolute masterpieces
> artistically and in every other sense but are globally unknown
> and can never be fully appreciated by non native speakers.

I agree. A heavy dose of the original will send bob running for cover. In Life of pi he perhaps only caught a glimpse of things that 'seemed' Indian. Not only bob, in many cases I'll run for cover as well :)

bob

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On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 05:18:40 -0700 (PDT), RaspingDrive

i cannot say what indians in india eat, what you describe sounds very
good. but i only knew every time i go with co workers to an "indian
lunch," 3/4 of the menu has the word "curry" and i know what it
smells/tastes like, and i just don't like it. perhaps real indian food
is delicious and nothing like that.

>> the wife made us dinner a few yrs ago, authentic chinese (she lived
>> most of her life in china). i just couldn't swallow the food.
>>
>> i reckon that's a flaw on my part, not theirs, but i didn't have any
>> such problem in italy. we like what we like.
>>
>> bob
>
>Fair enough.

bob

John Liang

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Apr 29, 2017, 12:41:30 PM4/29/17

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YEC and Olympic are not comparable to slam, Edberg won his 6 majors and he did well in representing his country in Davis Cup but he is still a 6 time major winner. Hardly anyone call Edberg a 11 or 12 time major winner. You are the exception.

>
> When you compare him to someone from vastly different era e.g.
> Rosewall what does reflect better their overall quality? 6 vs 8
> in slams? Or 11 vs 28 in various major titles.

Edberg did not win 11 major titles he won 6, tennis in 80,90, 2000 and this decade is vastly different to when Rosewall was playing the game. Physical demand of the game is much higher and so was level of competition today compare to Rosewall's era.

Carey

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Apr 29, 2017, 12:55:33 PM4/29/17

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There you go being fact-based and reasonable again, John L.

Remember where you are, Man... ;)

RaspingDrive

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Apr 29, 2017, 12:58:26 PM4/29/17

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Don't know about 'real' Indian food. I was just saying that I don't myself know what curry is all about. I know curry leaves, which are used as flavoring agents and also reportedly provide health benefits.

RaspingDrive

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On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 5:01:02 AM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:

> But on a whole, you get a sense of a player's presence when you
> count all major titles he laid his hands on.

Federer has 90 and 50 of those are biggies, thank you.

>
> Slams are like 90% of everything. Djokovic and Federer missing
> Olympics or Nadal and Laver not winning YEC is kinda talked

18 and counting. May he win more! Olympics are best of three until the final. It's OK if Federer doesn't have a singles OG.

*skriptis

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RaspingDrive <raspin...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

> On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 5:01:02 AM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:
>
>> But on a whole, you get a sense of a player's presence when you
>> count all major titles he laid his hands on.
>
> Federer has 90 and 50 of those are biggies, thank you.

No, that's incomparable to past greats.

RaspingDrive

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Apr 30, 2017, 11:36:17 PM4/30/17

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On Sunday, April 30, 2017 at 9:30:03 PM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:
> RaspingDrive <raspin...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
> > On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 5:01:02 AM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:
> >
> >> But on a whole, you get a sense of a player's presence when you
> >> count all major titles he laid his hands on.
> >
> > Federer has 90 and 50 of those are biggies, thank you.
>
>
> No, that's incomparable to past greats.

To what end?

*skriptis

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RaspingDrive <raspin...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
> On Sunday, April 30, 2017 at 9:30:03 PM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:
>> RaspingDrive <raspin...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
>> > On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 5:01:02 AM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:
>> >
>> >> But on a whole, you get a sense of a player's presence when you
>> >> count all major titles he laid his hands on.
>> >
>> > Federer has 90 and 50 of those are biggies, thank you.
>>
>>
>> No, that's incomparable to past greats.
>
> To what end?
>

These ATP1000 didn't exist before 1990 in this format and
certainly in no format before ATP era began.

So Federer's 50 big titles in atp era are not something you can
use ro compare him with e.g. Cochet.

John Liang

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On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 10:01:02 PM UTC+10, *skriptis wrote:
> RaspingDrive <raspin...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
> > On Sunday, April 30, 2017 at 9:30:03 PM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:
> >> RaspingDrive <raspin...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
> >> > On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 5:01:02 AM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> But on a whole, you get a sense of a player's presence when you
> >> >> count all major titles he laid his hands on.
> >> >
> >> > Federer has 90 and 50 of those are biggies, thank you.
> >>
> >>
> >> No, that's incomparable to past greats.
> >
> > To what end?
> >
>
> These ATP1000 didn't exist before 1990 in this format and
> certainly in no format before ATP era began.
>
> So Federer's 50 big titles in atp era are not something you can
> use ro compare him with e.g. Cochet.
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Then what are you doing ? with your list of majors that even include Davis Cup wins ?

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John Liang <jlia...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

Counting slams, yec,Olympics and ATP1000 gives you rough look for
this era.

But when you try all time comparison, you need to stick with all
time criteria? No atp1000s there. Otoh davis cup has been there
like, since ever, and it was a big deal, more or less, depending
on era. It's not irrelevant today as well. All big 4 worked hard
and wanted to win it as well, even if it's just once.

Likewise, there were always couple of tournaments of quite
importance like the Olympics, various YEC titles, pro slams,
world championships etc. They didn't last the whole time but
every era had or has these few additional important titles.
Sometimes the players were banned from one tour, but otoh it
means they had easier job and less competiton due to the tour
divide. It

Weighing would be impossible but there's no harm in mixing
everything and adding up to see the rough numbers.

For all time purposes it's quite good. It's nothing official like
7543, just fun.

Cochet, Djokovic 18
Nadal 19
Emerson, McEnroe 20
Tilden 22
Sampras 23
Laver, Federer 25
Rosewall 28

If Federer wins just a slam or two, somehow bags another dc with
Wawrinka, or wins yec or two he may find himself all time top.

E.g. Rosewall's 28

4 amateur slams
15 pro slams
4 open ers slams
2 wtc yec
3 dc

John Liang

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May 1, 2017, 10:14:13 AM5/1/17

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It is irrelevant as it is a team event. Anders Jarryd was a member of Sweden's Davis Cup team that won Davis Cup in 84,85,87 so that would make him a 3 major winner and a greater player than say a lot of people with one slam win.

>
>
> Likewise, there were always couple of tournaments of quite
> importance like the Olympics, various YEC titles, pro slams,
> world championships etc. They didn't last the whole time but
> every era had or has these few additional important titles.
> Sometimes the players were banned from one tour, but otoh it
> means they had easier job and less competiton due to the tour
> divide. It
>
> Weighing would be impossible but there's no harm in mixing
> everything and adding up to see the rough numbers.
>
>
> For all time purposes it's quite good. It's nothing official like
> 7543, just fun.

It is stupid, how many people think Emerson is a greater player than Nadal and Djokovic with his '20' major wins. or Rosewall greater than Federer and Sampras with his '28' majors ? Davis Cup used to bring the best amateur players into a team competition, but since the 90s top players regularly opting out of Davis Cup ties to give them extra rest and place more priority on regular tour events. .