The man who knew infinity

[Whisper]

Just saw this tonight. Kinda predictable but very enjoyable. Based on
true facts - had to change a few things like not depicting his 10 yr old
wife (woulda got banned). 7/10.


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[TT]

Whisper kirjoitti 22.7.2017 klo 17:59:
>
>
> Just saw this tonight. Kinda predictable but very enjoyable. Based on
> true facts - had to change a few things like not depicting his 10 yr old
> wife (woulda got banned). 7/10.
>

Haven't seen that but the subject matter is interesting.

I did however watch SIDEWAYS (2004), which I recall you recommending in
the past. I thought a very good lifelike film, although a bit overrated
by the critics (Metacritic 9,2 - get outta here). I enjoyed it a lot and
felt like drinking wine afterwards. I think around 7,5/10.

[Pelle Svanslös]

On 22.7.2017 17:59, Whisper wrote:
>
>
> Just saw this tonight. Kinda predictable but very enjoyable. Based on
> true facts - had to change a few things like not depicting his 10 yr old
> wife (woulda got banned). 7/10.

Did you know that infinity * constant equals infinity but infinity * 0
is undefined? And in measure theory infinity * 0 equals 0!

Did they explain this in the movie?

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[grif]

I haven't seen it yet, but I suggested this film to RaspingDrive a while back since it's about his hero.

[RaspingDrive]

Srinivasa Ramanujan is one of a kind, a Double 4 to boot, and everybody's hero from his part of the world. Where I live presently a nearby library has the DVD and after finishing a two-day trip next week I hope to rent it and watch the film. Will give you my thoughts on it after that. I hope it won't be like Matt Damon doing/lecturing math in that movie whose name I forget.

[The Iceberg]

Sideways was average, think a lot of 40+ year old middle-class types dreamt about being in it or something cos they all give it 10/10, bizarre really, but never understood the big deal, I'd give it maybe 5.

[TT]

I gave it a 7. The characters were pretty good, felt real. Yes, the film
is about midlife crisis but what I liked most about it were the
performances and the two opposite male characters, they couldn't have
been much more different.

The director Alexander Payne (who?) has other similar films as well...
The Descendants, About Schmidt, Nebraska are all good. He also made
'Election 1999' which I like probably most of his films but is more of a
comedy.

[Gracchus]

On Sunday, July 23, 2017 at 6:15:16 AM UTC-7, TT wrote:
> The Iceberg kirjoitti 23.7.2017 klo 13:15:
> > On Saturday, 22 July 2017 18:03:23 UTC+1, TT wrote:
> >> Whisper kirjoitti 22.7.2017 klo 17:59:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Just saw this tonight. Kinda predictable but very enjoyable. Based on
> >>> true facts - had to change a few things like not depicting his 10 yr old
> >>> wife (woulda got banned). 7/10.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Haven't seen that but the subject matter is interesting.
> >>
> >> I did however watch SIDEWAYS (2004), which I recall you recommending in
> >> the past. I thought a very good lifelike film, although a bit overrated
> >> by the critics (Metacritic 9,2 - get outta here). I enjoyed it a lot and
> >> felt like drinking wine afterwards. I think around 7,5/10.
> >
> > Sideways was average, think a lot of 40+ year old middle-class types dreamt about being in it or something cos they all give it 10/10, bizarre really, but never understood the big deal, I'd give it maybe 5.
> >
>
> I gave it a 7. The characters were pretty good, felt real. Yes, the film
> is about midlife crisis but what I liked most about it were the
> performances and the two opposite male characters, they couldn't have
> been much more different.

Was there really a reason to care about them though? I couldn't find one. So a pair of friends, one an alcoholic and the other a sex addict, end up on a road trip that's supposed to reflect their "inner journey" (as if that hasn't been done before). Instant classic? Still, I'd probably watch it again more attentively and look for deeper layers that make it deserve a 96% RT rating.

*As a footnote, Church's character should have smacked Sandra Oh senseless for breaking his nose.

[grif]

https://streamable.com/8lz3s

I shall keep an eye out for the number 1729.

[TT]

Good question, what makes us like a character anyway...

I thought the Giamatti's character grew on me... while the obsessive
ladies man reminded me a lot about one of my friends, looks and acts a
lot the same and has (at least had) lots of ladies... really nice guy
though.

> *As a footnote, Church's character should have smacked Sandra Oh senseless for breaking his nose.
>

Yeah, I don't think that was very good a scene. I certainly would have
stopped the woman beating my friend immediately by any means necessary.
It looked like a damn murder scene.

One thing that bothered me a bit throughout was that how obviously drunk
they were all the the time when driving from wine tasting to another and
back to motel. Didn't seem to bother a single person in the movie...

[Gracchus]

It was completely out of proportion. So he lied to her about being married. OK, well she hardly knew him in the first place. That's rather low on the betrayal scale. Had she publicly embarrassed him, thrown a drink on him, etc., it would be deserved. But what she did perpetuates the view that "a woman scorned" has special license to maim a man--whether it be breaking his face with a helmet, kicking his genitals into tapioca or whatever. Sorry, IMO the code of gallantry goes out the window when she crosses that line. It's no different than a man committing GBH.

> One thing that bothered me a bit throughout was that how obviously drunk
> they were all the the time when driving from wine tasting to another and
> back to motel. Didn't seem to bother a single person in the movie...

That is surprising in a modern movie, yeah.

[bob]

i have sideways on dvd, watch it every now and again. pretty good. "if
anyone orders merlot i'm leaving." :-)

bob

[RaspingDrive]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OARGZ1xXCxs

[grif]

I'd already seen a documentary about S Ramanujan years ago. Yes, it was a tragedy that his life was cut so short.

Interestingly, there seems to be another recent film about him, "Ramanujan (2014)". I couldn't find a trailer with English subs. Maybe you can translate :p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUXwGX70n4Y

[RaspingDrive]

It must be the Tamil film. When I get the time will watch it and help you with the translation :) Several months ago I remember giving a link to a nice Tamil song from this movie. It was probably in response to bob's post on Life of Pi. Here is the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z10U7VZ7QNM
As a Tamil, I love this number.

Some info for you about Ramanujan. He belonged to the Brahmin community, more specifically Iyengar, occupying the highest position among the three egos --- I, Iyer, and Iyengar --- according to, it seems, some famous Englishman! First comes I, then Iyer and finally Iyengar! Many great probabilists are Iyengars, such as SRS Varadhan of NYU (Courant) who was an Abel prize winner, Parthasarathy who wrote the classical Probability measures on Metric spaces, Varadarajan of UCLA, and presumably Soundararajan of Stanford mathematics.

[grif]

On 24/07/2017 01:01, RaspingDrive wrote:
> On Sunday, July 23, 2017 at 7:34:16 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:
>> On 24/07/2017 00:16, RaspingDrive wrote:
>>> On Sunday, July 23, 2017 at 1:42:53 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:
>>>> On 23/07/2017 06:09, RaspingDrive wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, July 22, 2017 at 4:16:31 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:
>>>>>> On 22/07/2017 15:59, Whisper wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just saw this tonight. Kinda predictable but very enjoyable. Based on true facts - had to change a few things like not depicting his 10 yr old wife (woulda got banned). 7/10.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> I haven't seen it yet, but I suggested this film to RaspingDrive a while back since it's about his hero.
>>>>>
>>>>> Srinivasa Ramanujan is one of a kind, a Double 4 to boot, and everybody's hero from his part of the world. Where I live presently a nearby library has the DVD and after finishing a two-day trip next week I hope to rent it and watch the film. Will give you my thoughts on it after that. I hope it won't be like Matt Damon doing/lecturing math in that movie whose name I forget.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://streamable.com/8lz3s
>>>>
>>>> I shall keep an eye out for the number 1729.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OARGZ1xXCxs
>>>
>>
>> I'd already seen a documentary about S Ramanujan years ago. Yes, it was a tragedy that his life was cut so short.
>>
>> Interestingly, there seems to be another recent film about him, "Ramanujan (2014)". I couldn't find a trailer with English subs. Maybe you can translate :p
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUXwGX70n4Y
>
> It must be the Tamil film. When I get the time will watch it and help you with the translation :) Several months ago I remember giving a link to a nice Tamil song from this movie. It was probably in response to bob's post on Life of Pi. Here is the link:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z10U7VZ7QNM
> As a Tamil, I love this number.
>

Lol, I only meant you could help translate for the trailer, not the entire movie! Well, you could watch both films and report back which one you preferred.

[RaspingDrive]

On Sunday, July 23, 2017 at 8:13:15 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:
> On 24/07/2017 01:01, RaspingDrive wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 23, 2017 at 7:34:16 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:

> >> Interestingly, there seems to be another recent film about him, "Ramanujan (2014)". I couldn't find a trailer with English subs. Maybe you can translate :p
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUXwGX70n4Y
> >

> Lol, I only meant you could help translate for the trailer, not the entire movie! Well, you could watch both films and report back which one you preferred.

The kid, presumably Ramanujan, asks whether 0 divided by 0 will yield one and whether giving 0 mango to 0 persons will result in each getting 1. His frustrated father asks what is the use in getting 100/100 in math but failing in all other courses. His school headmaster (presumably) remarks that they will be satisfied with a student being average in all the subjects instead of being a genius. A prospective employer rejects him saying his company accounts will be completely 'confused', so Ramanujan is not a fit for the position. His mom (presumably) opines that according to Hindu 'sashtras' crossing seas to go from one country to another country is not 'dharma' (not a proper thing). In another scene Ramanujan is asking whether his mental condition is proper or not.

[grif]

Thanks RD!

[RaspingDrive]

The movie is available on YouTube! The two chief protagonists acted very well. Failed to portray the S.Indian milieu convincingly. There was at least one misrepresentation like the wife cutting his hair, which didn't happen. Not much either. Was an OK watch.

[RaspingDrive]

Not much *math* either.

[Guypers]

Kanigel wrote a brilliant book on Rama.......

[grif]

Which movie did you watch ? "The Man Who Knew Infinity", "Ramanujan (2014)", or both ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6sz5JIYq6c

[grif]

"The Man Who Knew Infinity" is supposed to be based on his book.

[RaspingDrive]

Not Ramanujan (2014) but this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RfQH74r6KY

[grif]

"This video contains content from MC for Warner Bros., who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.". Try "The Man who Knew Infinity" based on Kanigel's book of the same name.

[RaspingDrive]

The link I posted has Dev Patel acting and the English actor. Isn't that the same? Anyway, I will check out "The Man Who Knew Infinity".

[Guypers]

Youtube points to TNWKI, that guy does not know what he watched!

[RaspingDrive]

clueless, didn't I say Dev Patel acted?

[grif]

The link you posted is blocked for me, so I didn't know what you watched. It sounds like you did in fact watch "The Man Who Knew Infinity".

[RaspingDrive]

I did watch the movie! Dev Patel, Jeremy Irons etc.

[grif]

Yes. I had a feeling you were going to say there wasn't enough math in the film, lol. Anyway, it's been a while since I can remember a decent performance from Irons, but he puts up a good showing here.

[RaspingDrive]

Dev Patel with his exercised physique is an incongruous Ramanujan. Other than that he acted well. Jeremy Irons acted very well. I will watch it a second time and then we can discuss more :)

[Whisper]

Get a VPN.