Novak Djokovic is one of the greatest tennis players ever, says Pat Cash

[grif]

Novak Djokovic will arrive in London next month to play in the ATP World
Tour Finals having already secured his place among the greatest tennis
players of all time, says former Wimbledon champion Pat Cash.

Cash even believes the Serbian has proved himself to be better than Roger
Federer at his best.

Djokovic has certainly had the most incredible of years, capturing three of
the four grand slams, and securing the year-ending world No.1 spot.

And Cash would not be surprised if he rounds off a breathtaking year in
style at the Barclays ATP World Tour Finals in the capital.

With 64 victories and just three losses for Djokovic during 2011, Cash said:
'I don't think many people saw it coming.

'Novak has been phenomenal, winning the Australian Open, Wimbledon and the
US Open and getting to the semis at Roland Garros.

'That puts him right up there alongside the best who have ever played. I
feel Djokovic is better than Federer in his prime because he has greater
opposition.

'[Andy] Murray and [Rafael] Nadal are also in great form and Juan Martin del
Potro and others are always dangerous. There is more depth to the game at
the moment and that gives Djokovic the edge in my opinion.' Qualification
for the O2 concludes at the Paris Masters next month and Cash expects
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga to be a genuine threat.

The Frenchman holds the final qualifying spot to make it into the eight-man
field, and Cash admits he is a big fan of the Wimbledon semi-finalist.

'[Tsonga] is a dangerous player when he is on form and has shown he can live
with the best of them. He has the game and the range to trouble the top
four. He's developing into a very good player.'

Cash, 46, is a big fan of the end of season-ending tournament at the O2,
saying: 'It has grown in stature since arriving in London. I don't know
where it is heading next but I hope it stays here for a while.'

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/879710-novak-djokovic-is-one-of-the-greatest-tennis-players-ever-says-pat-cash

[felangey]

> 'That puts him right up there alongside the best who have ever played. I
> feel Djokovic is better than Federer in his prime because he has greater
> opposition.

Yawwwwwwnn...myck mych myk. And still they come.

Hey Pat, why are you comparing Djokovic to Federer and not Nadal. I thought
Nadal had surpassed Federer....unless....like....you were trying to hype
things up by talking trash.......and now (gasp shock horror) you are trying
to hype the next bandwagon in a little shimmer of controversy? But always
against Fed though eh? Eeeenteresting.

Poor Rog. He was so much better than the opposition in his own peak that it
can't count. If only he had dumbed down his genius a bit to make things more
sluggy-gritty like Djoke does.

[Shakes]

Well, he did make the distinction between better and greater. He,
thankfully, did not say that Djok of this yr is greater than Fed, Nadal
etc.

[Patrick Kehoe]

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Yep... the best eventually find ways to keep getting better... as the
sport refines itself and is refined by competitive elite play... just
the way of sport... Rafa found ways to usurp Fed and Nole usurped Rafa
and so it goes...

P

[Patrick Kehoe]

On Nov 1, 11:12 am, Shakes <kvcsh...@gmail.com> wrote:

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... And, it will be fascinating to see if he can have the career
(level) that Laver and Borg and Pete and Feds had... that's the final
test... the highest standard...

P

[Shakes]

I think he will finish with around 7-8 slams in total.

[bob]

so struggling with hewitt/roddick would've increaded fed's standing in
your mind? eeeenteresting!

bob

[TennisGuy]

> http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/879710-novak-djokovic-is-one-of-the-grea...

A tad premature to make the call, wouldn't you say?

Like so many things could happen between now and then.
Like say, he gets injured and ends his career early.
Like say, maybe next year he doesn't win any slams and the same for
the next few years.
Like say, maybe his final slam tally will be just 6 or 8 slams.
Like say....

[Court_1]

What a shocker, Pat Cash is saying something negative about Federer
again. Another guy who has to stroke his own ego by denigrating
Federer's vast accomplishments which far exceed Cash's own meager
accomplishments in comparison. How many slams do you have Pat? Oh
that's right, only one!

Cash is pathetic.

[kaennorsing]

Cash is trash... Central authorities make it so.

[Ulysses]

Cash has always been a petulant, fat-thighed, earringed piece of
reeking shit.

Why would anyone quote anything out of his mouth, unless it's to
announce his latest conquest in the local Aussie bathhouse?

Pathetic sums up this vile sewage.

[Superdave]

I could not have said it so well. Amen.

[PeteWasLucky]

And still poor 30yrs Federer manage to beat the better player in the
SF of the FO and have many match points in their SF in USO.
Now I understand why Pete never liked the guy, because he is simply an
a??

[Shakes]

He didn't say anything controversial. That's something that's said
about every great player when he's overtaken. Happened to Mac when
Lendl overtook him, to Lendl when Becker/Edberg overtook him, to
Becker/Edberg when Agassi/Courier/Sampras overtook them, to Sampras
when Safin/Hewitt overtook him etc.

[Patrick Kehoe]

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That's right...

P

[Court_1]

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No, it is more than that. Cash has it in for Federer, the most
successful player of all time because Cash is an insecure scrub
compared to Federer. It is not just Cash's comments about Federer that
are pitiful, it is most if not all of Cash's comments about anybody or
anything. He is a complete dolt in every sense of the word. I could
never stand him.

[Shakes]

That may be so. But my point was that Cash implying that Djok is
playing better now than Fed did before is not a controversial
statement. Djok's results this yr against both Fed and Nadal warrant
the justification that he is the better player than both of them.

[Court_1]

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Djokovic is a better player now because he is defeating a geriatric
Federer and an off form Nadal and we are supposed to believe Djokovic
is like the Second Coming? It is true that Djokovic has had an
incredible year this year but to say he is in any way comparable to
Federer he will have to keep up this greatness for a long time and
achieve a lot more. Cash talks about there being more depth now with a
long past his prime Federer, a Nadal who is on his way downward and
then he has the nerve to talk about Tsonga yet? What the hell has
Tsonga ever done? Also Murray? Has Murray won a slam that I am not
aware of? That is why I keep saying if Murray can't win a slam now
with the top 4, aside from Djokovic in less than stellar form, than he
is a joke.
Now is his chance.

[kaennorsing]

On 4 nov, 01:52, Shakes <kvcsh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That may be so. But my point was that Cash implying that Djok is
> playing better now than Fed did before is not a controversial

True, but what Cash said is that he thinks Djoker is a better player
than Fed was *in his prime*... That's the 'controversial' part.

[Shakes]

I knew he meant that, and I still don't think it's controversial. Now
you and I might disagree with it, but it's not something that's not
been said before. Did you not witness a whole thread recently about a
similar assertion with Sampras vs. Hewitt, circa 2001-2002 ? :-)

[jdeluise]

On 4-Nov-2011, Shakes <kvcs...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I knew he meant that, and I still don't think it's controversial. Now
> you and I might disagree with it, but it's not something that's not
> been said before. Did you not witness a whole thread recently about a
> similar assertion with Sampras vs. Hewitt, circa 2001-2002 ? :-)

er, it was you and others that tried to *turn* it into that. Most of the
discussion was around whether Hewitt had a better return of serve than
Agassi against Sampras in a particular timeframe. Of course, the usual
Sampras nuts tried to make it into something else.

[Shakes]

Actually, I didn't turn that thread at all. I put up stats to back up
my position. That thread still ended with all the stats that myself and
John debated about.

There were a couple of other threads recently (among many in the past)
that discussed this topic.

In any case, my point was that what Cash said about Fed has been said
by many others during the previous eras as well. Most times people
don't care about it unless the player involved is their favourite
player, and the eras overlap.