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jdeluise
Jun 15, 2017, 4:22:51 PM6/15/17
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On Thu, 15 Jun 2017 13:20:12 -0700, Guypers wrote:
> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/09/movies/the-25-best-films-
of-the-21st-century.html?WT.mc_ev=click&WT.mc_id=NYT-E-I-NYT-E-AT-061517-
L1&=&=&em_pos=large&emc=edit_el_20170615&nl=el&nl=at-
times&nlid=18314170&ref=headline&te=1&_r=0
Wow, a lot of stinkers in that list. "Mad Max: Fury Road" and "The 40-
Year-Old Virgin"?
> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/09/movies/the-25-best-films-
of-the-21st-century.html?WT.mc_ev=click&WT.mc_id=NYT-E-I-NYT-E-AT-061517-
L1&=&=&em_pos=large&emc=edit_el_20170615&nl=el&nl=at-
times&nlid=18314170&ref=headline&te=1&_r=0
Wow, a lot of stinkers in that list. "Mad Max: Fury Road" and "The 40-
Year-Old Virgin"?
calim...@gmx.de
Jun 15, 2017, 5:06:13 PM6/15/17
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On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 10:20:15 PM UTC+2, Guypers wrote:
> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/09/movies/the-25-best-films-of-the-21st-century.html?WT.mc_ev=click&WT.mc_id=NYT-E-I-NYT-E-AT-061517-L1&=&=&em_pos=large&emc=edit_el_20170615&nl=el&nl=at-times&nlid=18314170&ref=headline&te=1&_r=0
NYT?
Weren't that those geniuses who called "Then There Will Be Blood" the best film of the 21st century?
Lolol
Max
> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/09/movies/the-25-best-films-of-the-21st-century.html?WT.mc_ev=click&WT.mc_id=NYT-E-I-NYT-E-AT-061517-L1&=&=&em_pos=large&emc=edit_el_20170615&nl=el&nl=at-times&nlid=18314170&ref=headline&te=1&_r=0
NYT?
Weren't that those geniuses who called "Then There Will Be Blood" the best film of the 21st century?
Lolol
Max
TT
Jun 16, 2017, 5:15:01 PM6/16/17
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I can sort of understand some loving Fury Road, it's good at what it
does (one long car chase). And hey, it even has an actress better than
Naomi Watts.
40 year old virgin I think is ok but certainly shouldn't be on top 25 of
2000- list. I need to watch Yi Yi (2000), it appears on a lot of best of
lists...
The New York Times has also made a list of 1000 best films of all time...
http://www.listchallenges.com/new-york-times-best-1000-movies-ever-made
It's the sort of list which has plenty of great films but also a lot of
hidden gems...
Gracchus
Jun 16, 2017, 5:24:46 PM6/16/17
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On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 2:15:01 PM UTC-7, TT wrote:
> I can sort of understand some loving Fury Road, it's good at what it
> does (one long car chase). And hey, it even has an actress better than
> Naomi Watts.
No such living actress exists.
> I can sort of understand some loving Fury Road, it's good at what it
> does (one long car chase). And hey, it even has an actress better than
> Naomi Watts.
jdeluise
Jun 16, 2017, 5:48:28 PM6/16/17
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On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 00:15:19 +0300, TT wrote:
> it's good at what it
> does (one long car chase).
So was the original "Gone in 60 Seconds" :)
> it's good at what it
> does (one long car chase).
Court_1
Jun 16, 2017, 6:41:19 PM6/16/17
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That's a pretty offbeat list. I haven't seen a lot of the movies on that list but to have Boyhood and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind as two of the best films of the 21st century says it all. I hated Eternal Sunshine and Boyhood was a big nothing. The 40 Year Old Virgin was ok for a comedy film but one of the best films overall of the 21st century? Huh?
I adored Million Dollar Baby however. That movie had a big emotional impact on me. I also liked Munich. There Will be Blood was good but again I'm not sure it qualifies as one of the top 25 best of the 21st century.
I adored Million Dollar Baby however. That movie had a big emotional impact on me. I also liked Munich. There Will be Blood was good but again I'm not sure it qualifies as one of the top 25 best of the 21st century.
Gracchus
Jun 16, 2017, 6:59:03 PM6/16/17
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On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 3:41:19 PM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
> That's a pretty offbeat list. I haven't seen a lot of the movies on that list but to have Boyhood and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind as two of the best films of the 21st century says it all. I hated Eternal Sunshine and Boyhood was a big nothing. The 40 Year Old Virgin was ok for a comedy film but one of the best films overall of the 21st century? Huh?
> I adored Million Dollar Baby however. That movie had a big emotional impact on me. I also liked Munich. There Will be Blood was good but again I'm not sure it qualifies as one of the top 25 best of the 21st century.
"There Will Be Blood" is overrated IMO. Whenever an auteur makes a film with apocalyptic overtones and packs it with biblical allusions, critics go a little too crazy over it. I liked "Munich" more than many of Spielberg's other films.
> That's a pretty offbeat list. I haven't seen a lot of the movies on that list but to have Boyhood and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind as two of the best films of the 21st century says it all. I hated Eternal Sunshine and Boyhood was a big nothing. The 40 Year Old Virgin was ok for a comedy film but one of the best films overall of the 21st century? Huh?
> I adored Million Dollar Baby however. That movie had a big emotional impact on me. I also liked Munich. There Will be Blood was good but again I'm not sure it qualifies as one of the top 25 best of the 21st century.
Whisper
Jun 17, 2017, 7:53:27 AM6/17/17
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On 17/06/2017 8:59 AM, Gracchus wrote:
>
> "There Will Be Blood" is overrated IMO.
Just this scene makes it a classic;
>
> "There Will Be Blood" is overrated IMO.
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+there+will+be+blood+milkshake&&view=detail&mid=CC21544397E34B9E8068CC21544397E34B9E8068&&FORM=VDRVRV
Reminds me of some of my 'debates' with rst Fedfuckers.
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Gracchus
Jun 17, 2017, 11:10:28 AM6/17/17
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On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 4:53:27 AM UTC-7, Whisper wrote:
> On 17/06/2017 8:59 AM, Gracchus wrote:
> > "There Will Be Blood" is overrated IMO.
> Just this scene makes it a classic;
> http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+there+will+be+blood+milkshake&&view=detail&mid=CC21544397E34B9E8068CC21544397E34B9E8068&&FORM=VDRVRV
Or rather, the scene makes it a movie with a jarring, memorable scene. A year or so after the film came out, I was talking to a guy about "There Will Be Blood" (which he liked) vs. "No Country for Old Men" (which he disliked)and finally asked him what he liked so much about "There Will Be Blood." What was the "philosophy" he kept going on about that supposedly made the film so good. He kind of froze for a long moment, then said, "Nihilistic! Apocalyptic!"
> On 17/06/2017 8:59 AM, Gracchus wrote:
> > "There Will Be Blood" is overrated IMO.
> Just this scene makes it a classic;
> http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+there+will+be+blood+milkshake&&view=detail&mid=CC21544397E34B9E8068CC21544397E34B9E8068&&FORM=VDRVRV
So there it was. He had been singing the praises of the film because it felt cool, but he had no idea what the damn thing was really about. I can relate to that because TWBB feels like it *should* be great. I even went to see it hoping it *would* be great. But I haven't heard an explanation yet--in casual or "professional" reviews--why it actually is.
> Reminds me of some of my 'debates' with rst Fedfuckers.
grif
Jun 17, 2017, 6:58:44 PM6/17/17
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On 15/06/2017 21:20, Guypers wrote:
> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/09/movies/the-25-best-films-of-the-21st-century.html?WT.mc_ev=click&WT.mc_id=NYT-E-I-NYT-E-AT-061517-L1&=&=&em_pos=large&emc=edit_el_20170615&nl=el&nl=at-times&nlid=18314170&ref=headline&te=1&_r=0
>
Yay, Eternal Sunshine is on the list! Nice comments by Del Toro on "Spirited Away" (oh noes, a Japanese animation!).
> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/09/movies/the-25-best-films-of-the-21st-century.html?WT.mc_ev=click&WT.mc_id=NYT-E-I-NYT-E-AT-061517-L1&=&=&em_pos=large&emc=edit_el_20170615&nl=el&nl=at-times&nlid=18314170&ref=headline&te=1&_r=0
>
Yay, Eternal Sunshine is on the list! Nice comments by Del Toro on "Spirited Away" (oh noes, a Japanese animation!).
Court_1
Jun 17, 2017, 7:29:44 PM6/17/17
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As for Eternal Sunshine--BLAH! :)
grif
Jun 17, 2017, 7:38:50 PM6/17/17
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BTW, I forgot to ask. Did you like "Lady and the Tramp" ? Does it not bother you that she lowered her standards and fell for a "tramp" ?
Court_1
Jun 17, 2017, 7:56:32 PM6/17/17
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On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 7:38:50 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:
> BTW, I forgot to ask. Did you like "Lady and the Tramp" ? Does it not bother you that she lowered her standards and fell for a "tramp" ?
Ha ha. I didn't love Lady and the Tramp from what I remember of it. It was ok. There are better Disney animation movies IMO.
> BTW, I forgot to ask. Did you like "Lady and the Tramp" ? Does it not bother you that she lowered her standards and fell for a "tramp" ?
Gracchus
Jun 17, 2017, 8:55:12 PM6/17/17
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On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 4:38:50 PM UTC-7, grif wrote:
> BTW, I forgot to ask. Did you like "Lady and the Tramp" ? Does it not bother you that she lowered her standards and fell for a "tramp" ?
Yeah, Lady was such a fine bitch. I wonder why she compromised.
> BTW, I forgot to ask. Did you like "Lady and the Tramp" ? Does it not bother you that she lowered her standards and fell for a "tramp" ?
Gracchus
Jun 17, 2017, 8:58:32 PM6/17/17
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On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 4:56:32 PM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
> Ha ha. I didn't love Lady and the Tramp from what I remember of it. It was ok. There are better Disney animation movies IMO.
The music added a lot. Peggy Lee co-wrote most of it. The Disney bastards screwed her out of money when the film eventually went to video, but she sued and won.
> Ha ha. I didn't love Lady and the Tramp from what I remember of it. It was ok. There are better Disney animation movies IMO.
grif
Jun 20, 2017, 4:39:15 PM6/20/17
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On 15/06/2017 21:20, Guypers wrote:
> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/09/movies/the-25-best-films-of-the-21st-century.html?WT.mc_ev=click&WT.mc_id=NYT-E-I-NYT-E-AT-061517-L1&=&=&em_pos=large&emc=edit_el_20170615&nl=el&nl=at-times&nlid=18314170&ref=headline&te=1&_r=0
>
Empire magazine just came out with this (voted by readers):
> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/09/movies/the-25-best-films-of-the-21st-century.html?WT.mc_ev=click&WT.mc_id=NYT-E-I-NYT-E-AT-061517-L1&=&=&em_pos=large&emc=edit_el_20170615&nl=el&nl=at-times&nlid=18314170&ref=headline&te=1&_r=0
>
http://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/100-greatest-movies-checklist/
Gracchus
Jun 20, 2017, 4:45:32 PM6/20/17
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grif
Jun 20, 2017, 4:58:02 PM6/20/17
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Yeah, Empire and IMDB tends to be more popular-oriented than others like Sight and Sound. Having said that, I'm pleasantly surprised that they voted in something like "Lawrence of Arabia", thinking they might not have the patience for a 3.5hr film like that.
BTW, I saw that Harryhausen documentary. Really enjoyed it; it was like going reliving some of my childhood when I saw those films on tv as a kid.
joh
Jun 20, 2017, 5:25:57 PM6/20/17
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Op dinsdag 20 juni 2017 22:58:02 UTC+2 schreef grif:
> On 20/06/2017 21:45, Gracchus wrote:
> > On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 1:39:15 PM UTC-7, grif wrote:
> >> On 15/06/2017 21:20, Guypers wrote:
> >>> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/09/movies/the-25-best-films-of-the-21st-century.html?WT.mc_ev=click&WT.mc_id=NYT-E-I-NYT-E-AT-061517-L1&=&=&em_pos=large&emc=edit_el_20170615&nl=el&nl=at-times&nlid=18314170&ref=headline&te=1&_r=0
> >>>
> >>
> >> Empire magazine just came out with this (voted by readers):
> >> http://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/100-greatest-movies-checklist/
> >
> > Once I saw "The Dark Knight" at #3, I knew it would be a terrible list. Lots of these films have no business being among the all-time top 100.
> >
>
> I knew someone was going to mention "The Dark Knight" :p
> Yeah, Empire and IMDB tends to be more popular-oriented than others like Sight and Sound. Having said that, I'm pleasantly surprised that they voted in something like "Lawrence of Arabia", thinking they might not have the patience for a 3.5hr film like that.
>
Voting in LoA doesn't take 3.5 hours.
> > On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 1:39:15 PM UTC-7, grif wrote:
> >> On 15/06/2017 21:20, Guypers wrote:
> >>> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/09/movies/the-25-best-films-of-the-21st-century.html?WT.mc_ev=click&WT.mc_id=NYT-E-I-NYT-E-AT-061517-L1&=&=&em_pos=large&emc=edit_el_20170615&nl=el&nl=at-times&nlid=18314170&ref=headline&te=1&_r=0
> >>>
> >>
> >> Empire magazine just came out with this (voted by readers):
> >> http://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/100-greatest-movies-checklist/
> >
> > Once I saw "The Dark Knight" at #3, I knew it would be a terrible list. Lots of these films have no business being among the all-time top 100.
> >
>
> I knew someone was going to mention "The Dark Knight" :p
> Yeah, Empire and IMDB tends to be more popular-oriented than others like Sight and Sound. Having said that, I'm pleasantly surprised that they voted in something like "Lawrence of Arabia", thinking they might not have the patience for a 3.5hr film like that.
>
Gracchus
Jun 20, 2017, 5:44:03 PM6/20/17
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TT
Jun 21, 2017, 11:42:07 AM6/21/17
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Gracchus kirjoitti 20.6.2017 klo 23:45:
>
> Once I saw "The Dark Knight" at #3, I knew it would be a terrible list.
> Lots of these films have no business being among the all-time top 100.
>
Yeah, some silly contemporary populist picks...
>
> Once I saw "The Dark Knight" at #3, I knew it would be a terrible list.
> Lots of these films have no business being among the all-time top 100.
>
Guardians of the Galaxy
Drive (2011)
The Avengers
Hot Fuzz
Shaun of the Dead
Memento
Lion King
Donnie Darko
Captain America
The Social Network
Etc...
Damn millenials. They sure love their Donnie Darkos and Lion Kings
And the hell is 'Amelie' grinning there.
On positive side, there are actually some titles that DO belong to all
time top 100...
-
Here's the list on more user friendly format:
http://www.listchallenges.com/empire-magazines-100-greatest-movies-2017
I (cough) have seen 100/100. Not sure if that's good though.
Gracchus
Jun 21, 2017, 11:53:18 AM6/21/17
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On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 8:42:07 AM UTC-7, TT wrote:
> Gracchus kirjoitti 20.6.2017 klo 23:45:
> > Once I saw "The Dark Knight" at #3, I knew it would be a terrible list.
> > Lots of these films have no business being among the all-time top 100.
> Yeah, some silly contemporary populist picks...
> Guardians of the Galaxy
> Drive (2011)
> The Avengers
> Hot Fuzz
> Shaun of the Dead
> Memento
> Lion King
> Donnie Darko
> Captain America
> The Social Network
>
> Etc...
> Damn millenials. They sure love their Donnie Darkos and Lion Kings
> And the hell is 'Amelie' grinning there.
> On positive side, there are actually some titles that DO belong to all
> time top 100...
What troubles me most is the omission of "Captain Underpants."
> Gracchus kirjoitti 20.6.2017 klo 23:45:
> > Once I saw "The Dark Knight" at #3, I knew it would be a terrible list.
> > Lots of these films have no business being among the all-time top 100.
> Yeah, some silly contemporary populist picks...
> Guardians of the Galaxy
> Drive (2011)
> The Avengers
> Hot Fuzz
> Shaun of the Dead
> Memento
> Lion King
> Donnie Darko
> Captain America
> The Social Network
>
> Etc...
> Damn millenials. They sure love their Donnie Darkos and Lion Kings
> And the hell is 'Amelie' grinning there.
> On positive side, there are actually some titles that DO belong to all
> time top 100...
TT
Jun 21, 2017, 11:57:31 AM6/21/17
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TT kirjoitti 21.6.2017 klo 18:42:
> Gracchus kirjoitti 20.6.2017 klo 23:45:
>>
>> Once I saw "The Dark Knight" at #3, I knew it would be a terrible
>> list. Lots of these films have no business being among the all-time
>> top 100.
>>
>
> Yeah, some silly contemporary populist picks...
>
> Guardians of the Galaxy
> Drive (2011)
> The Avengers
> Hot Fuzz
> Shaun of the Dead
> Memento
> Lion King
> Donnie Darko
> Captain America
> The Social Network
>
> Etc...
>
> Damn millenials. They sure love their Donnie Darkos and Lion Kings
Not to mention their Toy Stories...
> Gracchus kirjoitti 20.6.2017 klo 23:45:
>>
>> Once I saw "The Dark Knight" at #3, I knew it would be a terrible
>> list. Lots of these films have no business being among the all-time
>> top 100.
>>
>
> Yeah, some silly contemporary populist picks...
>
> Guardians of the Galaxy
> Drive (2011)
> The Avengers
> Hot Fuzz
> Shaun of the Dead
> Memento
> Lion King
> Donnie Darko
> Captain America
> The Social Network
>
> Etc...
>
> Damn millenials. They sure love their Donnie Darkos and Lion Kings
> And the hell is 'Amelie' grinning there.
>
> On positive side, there are actually some titles that DO belong to all
> time top 100...
>
>
> -
>
> Here's the list on more user friendly format:
> http://www.listchallenges.com/empire-magazines-100-greatest-movies-2017
>
> I (cough) have seen 100/100. Not sure if that's good though.
http://www.listchallenges.com/paste-magazines-100-best-horror-movies-of-all-time
...Because it has VAMPYROS LESBOS as #1!!!
:)
Unfortunately the list appears to be in reverse order though, so Lesbos
are actually on 100th spot, which still earns a lot of street cred.
TT
Jun 21, 2017, 11:58:23 AM6/21/17
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Gracchus
Jun 21, 2017, 12:08:32 PM6/21/17
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On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 8:57:31 AM UTC-7, TT wrote:
> Here's a brilliant horror list though...
>
> http://www.listchallenges.com/paste-magazines-100-best-horror-movies-of-all-time
>
> ...Because it has VAMPYROS LESBOS as #1!!!
> :)
>
> Unfortunately the list appears to be in reverse order though, so Lesbos
> are actually on 100th spot, which still earns a lot of street cred.
On first glance, I've seen 39 of these. Nice to see "The Tingler" on there! I love that film. Glorious schlock.
> Here's a brilliant horror list though...
>
> http://www.listchallenges.com/paste-magazines-100-best-horror-movies-of-all-time
>
> ...Because it has VAMPYROS LESBOS as #1!!!
> :)
>
> Unfortunately the list appears to be in reverse order though, so Lesbos
> are actually on 100th spot, which still earns a lot of street cred.
Court_1
Jun 21, 2017, 12:36:00 PM6/21/17
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On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 11:42:07 AM UTC-4, TT wrote:
> And the hell is 'Amelie' grinning there.
I haven't seen Amelie yet but I watched the French foreign language film A Very Long Engagement (2004) last night which is by the same director who directed Amelie-Jean-Pierre Jeunet and I thought it was great. A visually stunning film which is part mystery, part war film, part adventure and part romance. It shows the horrors of war at one end of the spectrum and the beauty of the French countryside at the other end of the spectrum and it has a whimsical side with some quirky Tim Burton-like characters. Some areas of the plot seen convoluted or unconvincing/unrealistic/irrational(i.e. the main character's inability to believe her fiancé is dead) but you are so caught up in the journey that some questions about the plot don't matter much. The film almost seems at times like a fairy-tale or fantasy set against the backdrop of WWI.
> And the hell is 'Amelie' grinning there.
Overall it's a delightful story and directed by a talented director. I definitely have to watch Amelie and some of his other films now.
TT
Jun 21, 2017, 1:04:39 PM6/21/17
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Burtonesque quirkiness.
I watched yesterday TENDER MERCIES (1983) and thought it was a really
good 'slice of life' movie. I tend to like these sort of laid back neo
western/country stories. Duvall won the lead Oscar from his role and he
was good although I'm not sure if his accent was all 'legit'.
TT
Jun 21, 2017, 1:17:08 PM6/21/17
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I've rated 63.
Carey
Jun 21, 2017, 1:27:10 PM6/21/17
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And I liked 'Amelie' quite a lot. Bought the dvd in fact.
Gracchus
Jun 21, 2017, 1:30:06 PM6/21/17
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Court_1
Jun 21, 2017, 1:40:34 PM6/21/17
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On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 1:04:39 PM UTC-4, TT wrote:
> I think Amelie is ok but waay overrated. Well you know I don't like much
> Burtonesque quirkiness.
Does Amelie have some quirkiness as well?
> I think Amelie is ok but waay overrated. Well you know I don't like much
> Burtonesque quirkiness.
> I watched yesterday TENDER MERCIES (1983) and thought it was a really
> good 'slice of life' movie. I tend to like these sort of laid back neo
> western/country stories. Duvall won the lead Oscar from his role and he
> was good although I'm not sure if his accent was all 'legit'.
Gracchus
Jun 21, 2017, 1:42:58 PM6/21/17
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On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 10:04:39 AM UTC-7, TT wrote:
> Court_1 kirjoitti 21.6.2017 klo 19:35:
> > On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 11:42:07 AM UTC-4, TT wrote:
> >
> >
> >> And the hell is 'Amelie' grinning there.
> >
> > I haven't seen Amelie yet but I watched the French foreign language film A Very Long Engagement (2004) last night which is by the same director who directed Amelie-Jean-Pierre Jeunet and I thought it was great. A visually stunning film which is part mystery, part war film, part adventure and part romance. It shows the horrors of war at one end of the spectrum and the beauty of the French countryside at the other end of the spectrum and it has a whimsical side with some quirky Tim Burton-like characters. Some areas of the plot seen convoluted or unconvincing/unrealistic/irrational(i.e. the main character's inability to believe her fiancé is dead) but you are so caught up in the journey that some questions about the plot don't matter much. The film almost seems at times like a fairy-tale or fantasy set against the backdrop of WWI.
> > Overall it's a delightful story and directed by a talented director. I definitely have to watch Amelie and some of his other films now.
> I think Amelie is ok but waay overrated. Well you know I don't like much
> Burtonesque quirkiness.
If forced to watch either another Tim Burton film or another from Wes Anderson, I'd probably pick Anderson. A cruel choice either way. They're two peas from the same pretentious pod.
> > On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 11:42:07 AM UTC-4, TT wrote:
> >
> >
> >> And the hell is 'Amelie' grinning there.
> >
> > I haven't seen Amelie yet but I watched the French foreign language film A Very Long Engagement (2004) last night which is by the same director who directed Amelie-Jean-Pierre Jeunet and I thought it was great. A visually stunning film which is part mystery, part war film, part adventure and part romance. It shows the horrors of war at one end of the spectrum and the beauty of the French countryside at the other end of the spectrum and it has a whimsical side with some quirky Tim Burton-like characters. Some areas of the plot seen convoluted or unconvincing/unrealistic/irrational(i.e. the main character's inability to believe her fiancé is dead) but you are so caught up in the journey that some questions about the plot don't matter much. The film almost seems at times like a fairy-tale or fantasy set against the backdrop of WWI.
> > Overall it's a delightful story and directed by a talented director. I definitely have to watch Amelie and some of his other films now.
> I think Amelie is ok but waay overrated. Well you know I don't like much
> Burtonesque quirkiness.
> I watched yesterday TENDER MERCIES (1983) and thought it was a really
> good 'slice of life' movie. I tend to like these sort of laid back neo
> western/country stories. Duvall won the lead Oscar from his role and he
> was good although I'm not sure if his accent was all 'legit'.
I liked "Tender Mercies." It's very understated and low-key without being dull. When "Crazy Heart" came out, ten minutes in I was thinking, Hey...I've seen this before. But "Tender Mercies" did it so much better.
Court_1
Jun 21, 2017, 1:51:41 PM6/21/17
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Man, I really enjoyed A Very Long Engagement. It's very well-done IMO and the director is super talented. It's a visually breathtaking movie and the director uses a brown-red color tint to depict the vintage feel of something which takes place during WWI. Then you have the dark gray tones of heinous war scenes juxtaposed with beautiful colors of the French countryside in the next shots.
Court_1
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On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 1:42:58 PM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
> If forced to watch either another Tim Burton film or another from Wes Anderson, I'd probably pick Anderson. A cruel choice either way. They're two peas from the same pretentious pod.
The only Wes Anderson films I've seen are The Grand Budapest Hotel (which I liked and we have discussed ad nauseam) and The Squid and the Whale which I hated. As for Tim Burton, I haven't seen all of his work but I have seen Alice in Wonderland, Big Eyes, Edward Scissorhands, Beetlejuice and Ed Wood and thought they were all interesting.
> If forced to watch either another Tim Burton film or another from Wes Anderson, I'd probably pick Anderson. A cruel choice either way. They're two peas from the same pretentious pod.
TT
Jun 21, 2017, 2:01:18 PM6/21/17
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Court_1 kirjoitti 21.6.2017 klo 20:40:
> On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 1:04:39 PM UTC-4, TT wrote:
>
>> I think Amelie is ok but waay overrated. Well you know I don't like much
>> Burtonesque quirkiness.
>
> Does Amelie have some quirkiness as well?
>
>
Quirky & whimsical...
> On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 1:04:39 PM UTC-4, TT wrote:
>
>> I think Amelie is ok but waay overrated. Well you know I don't like much
>> Burtonesque quirkiness.
>
> Does Amelie have some quirkiness as well?
>
>
>> I watched yesterday TENDER MERCIES (1983) and thought it was a really
>> good 'slice of life' movie. I tend to like these sort of laid back neo
>> western/country stories. Duvall won the lead Oscar from his role and he
>> was good although I'm not sure if his accent was all 'legit'.
>
> I don't think I've seen Tender Mercies? > I did see Crazy Heart(with Jeff
> Bridges) which people say is similar to Tender Mercies and I liked Crazy
> Heart.
>
mix. Tender Mercies is perhaps even more a 'small' film. But nice.
TT
Jun 21, 2017, 2:06:32 PM6/21/17
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> I liked "Tender Mercies." It's very understated and low-key without being > dull. When "Crazy Heart" came out, ten minutes in I was thinking,
> Hey...I've seen this before. But "Tender Mercies" did it so much better.
>
yes Tender Mercies is probably more low key and likeable.
Gracchus
Jun 21, 2017, 2:11:44 PM6/21/17
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On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 11:00:00 AM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 1:42:58 PM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
> > If forced to watch either another Tim Burton film or another from Wes Anderson, I'd probably pick Anderson. A cruel choice either way. They're two peas from the same pretentious pod.
> The only Wes Anderson films I've seen are The Grand Budapest Hotel (which I liked and we have discussed ad nauseam)
Double ad nauseum for me because I had to remember it.
> On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 1:42:58 PM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
> > If forced to watch either another Tim Burton film or another from Wes Anderson, I'd probably pick Anderson. A cruel choice either way. They're two peas from the same pretentious pod.
> The only Wes Anderson films I've seen are The Grand Budapest Hotel (which I liked and we have discussed ad nauseam)
> and The Squid and the Whale which I hated. As for Tim Burton, I haven't seen all of his work but I have seen Alice in Wonderland, Big Eyes, Edward Scissorhands, Beetlejuice and Ed Wood and thought they were all interesting.
grif
Jun 21, 2017, 3:01:10 PM6/21/17
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmllotLUU38
Carey
Jun 21, 2017, 3:14:59 PM6/21/17
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fitting music. I will watch it again soon.
I just got 'Changing Times' with Deneuve and Depardieu, which I saw a few years ago and enjoyed.
Call me pretentious.
grif
Jun 21, 2017, 3:25:05 PM6/21/17
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Kali movie magic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROssbvtE41U
The griffin was robbed of victory! Not that I'm biased, oh no.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzGw_4sCjfc
Gracchus
Jun 21, 2017, 3:28:54 PM6/21/17
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Court_1
Jun 21, 2017, 8:38:07 PM6/21/17
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On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 3:01:10 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:
> Small pleasures. This is the part I always remember about Amelie. I like quirky and I like whimsy and this film has it in spades. It has a very evocative musical score by Yann Tiersen.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmllotLUU38
Way to go Grifie! High five! I must watch Amelie. I think you would also like director Jean-Pierre Jeunet's film A Very Long Engagement. I enjoyed the heck out of it! It has everything you would want for two hours of entertainment, i.e. treacherous war scenes, romance, mystery, adventure, incredible cinematography, etc.
> Small pleasures. This is the part I always remember about Amelie. I like quirky and I like whimsy and this film has it in spades. It has a very evocative musical score by Yann Tiersen.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmllotLUU38
bob
Jun 21, 2017, 11:04:09 PM6/21/17
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though.
bob
bob
Jun 21, 2017, 11:05:27 PM6/21/17
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On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 20:04:40 +0300, TT <as...@dprk.kp> wrote:
>Court_1 kirjoitti 21.6.2017 klo 19:35:
>> On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 11:42:07 AM UTC-4, TT wrote:
>>
>>
>>> And the hell is 'Amelie' grinning there.
>>
>> I haven't seen Amelie yet but I watched the French foreign language film A Very Long Engagement (2004) last night which is by the same director who directed Amelie-Jean-Pierre Jeunet and I thought it was great. A visually stunning film which is part mystery, part war film, part adventure and part romance. It shows the horrors of war at one end of the spectrum and the beauty of the French countryside at the other end of the spectrum and it has a whimsical side with some quirky Tim Burton-like characters. Some areas of the plot seen convoluted or unconvincing/unrealistic/irrational(i.e. the main character's inability to believe her fiancé is dead) but you are so caught up in the journey that some questions about the plot don't matter much. The film almost seems at times like a fairy-tale or fantasy set against the backdrop of WWI.
>>
>> Overall it's a delightful story and directed by a talented director. I definitely have to watch Amelie and some of his other films now.
>>
>
>I think Amelie is ok but waay overrated. Well you know I don't like much
>Burtonesque quirkiness.
greatly overrated.
>Court_1 kirjoitti 21.6.2017 klo 19:35:
>> On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 11:42:07 AM UTC-4, TT wrote:
>>
>>
>>> And the hell is 'Amelie' grinning there.
>>
>> I haven't seen Amelie yet but I watched the French foreign language film A Very Long Engagement (2004) last night which is by the same director who directed Amelie-Jean-Pierre Jeunet and I thought it was great. A visually stunning film which is part mystery, part war film, part adventure and part romance. It shows the horrors of war at one end of the spectrum and the beauty of the French countryside at the other end of the spectrum and it has a whimsical side with some quirky Tim Burton-like characters. Some areas of the plot seen convoluted or unconvincing/unrealistic/irrational(i.e. the main character's inability to believe her fiancé is dead) but you are so caught up in the journey that some questions about the plot don't matter much. The film almost seems at times like a fairy-tale or fantasy set against the backdrop of WWI.
>>
>> Overall it's a delightful story and directed by a talented director. I definitely have to watch Amelie and some of his other films now.
>>
>
>I think Amelie is ok but waay overrated. Well you know I don't like much
>Burtonesque quirkiness.
>I watched yesterday TENDER MERCIES (1983) and thought it was a really
>good 'slice of life' movie. I tend to like these sort of laid back neo
>western/country stories. Duvall won the lead Oscar from his role and he
>was good although I'm not sure if his accent was all 'legit'.
jeff bridges, gracchus' favorite. . :-)
bob
bob
Jun 21, 2017, 11:06:51 PM6/21/17
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bob
bob
Jun 21, 2017, 11:08:03 PM6/21/17
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better.
bob
bob
Jun 21, 2017, 11:09:19 PM6/21/17
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bob
Carey
Jun 21, 2017, 11:52:11 PM6/21/17
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C1, if you watch Amelie, let us know what you think.
Gracchus
Jun 22, 2017, 12:33:35 AM6/22/17
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On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 8:52:11 PM UTC-7, Carey wrote:
> C1, if you watch Amelie, let us know what you think.
A film about a quirky gamin will be irresistible to someone who liked "Chocolat."
> C1, if you watch Amelie, let us know what you think.
Court_1
Jun 22, 2017, 8:21:34 AM6/22/17
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TT
Jun 22, 2017, 9:03:30 AM6/22/17
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might drop much lower...
I can't for the life of me remember the story (maybe there wasn't
much)... but I have a recollection that it is good looking visually and
different (quirky). I have to question my rating though since above all
I recall the film being rubbish with annoying characters.
TT
Jun 22, 2017, 9:32:55 AM6/22/17
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looking and 'different' but that shouldn't be enough for a 6. Definitely
not something I'd watch again and very French in rather annoying way. 5/10.
This of course means that Courtsie will now think it's the best film
ever. :-P
Court_1
Jun 22, 2017, 9:52:00 AM6/22/17
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On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 9:32:55 AM UTC-4, TT wrote:
> Watched some clips and still don't remember the story much. Yes, good
> looking and 'different' but that shouldn't be enough for a 6. Definitely
> not something I'd watch again and very French in rather annoying way. 5/10.
>
> This of course means that Courtsie will now think it's the best film
> ever. :-P
I'll probably like it because as I posted, I really liked the film A Very Long Engagement which was by the same director. Also, I think a lot of good films are made in France. For some reason you seem to have an aversion to many French films. Didn't you say that you didn't like Diabolique (1955) for example? For me that was an excellent film.
> Watched some clips and still don't remember the story much. Yes, good
> looking and 'different' but that shouldn't be enough for a 6. Definitely
> not something I'd watch again and very French in rather annoying way. 5/10.
>
> This of course means that Courtsie will now think it's the best film
> ever. :-P
TT
Jun 22, 2017, 10:40:13 AM6/22/17
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it's supposed to be.
As for French films... I have watched recently-ish a lot and there are
good ones and bad ones but in general the French style feels often
designed to be intellectual (pseudo) and quirky for the sake of
quirkiness (which is exactly the problem with Amelie). The action films
are often overly hardcore/tough to the point of ridiculousness.
I would say the biggest problem with French cinema is that it tries so
hard to be something (endearing, hardcore, artistic, intellectual etc)
and the end result simply does not often come off as authentic - there's
only style but not good enough story or true depth of characters.
Try a few essential French New Wave films and see for yourself... lots
of it is all style over substance. Sometimes it works but more often
doesn't. The action films sometimes feel outright amateurish.
I have rated around 150 films which list the country and language as
France and French... My average rating for these films is 6,1 while my
average for all films is 6,45. So yes, French films often do let down.
TT
Jun 22, 2017, 10:46:51 AM6/22/17
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over substance. Hell, people here who praise it probably won't remember
the story either... that's why Carey has to see it again...
Gracchus
Jun 22, 2017, 11:53:29 AM6/22/17
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On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 7:40:13 AM UTC-7, TT wrote:
> As for French films... I have watched recently-ish a lot and there are
> good ones and bad ones but in general the French style feels often
> designed to be intellectual (pseudo) and quirky for the sake of
> quirkiness (which is exactly the problem with Amelie). The action films
> are often overly hardcore/tough to the point of ridiculousness.
> I would say the biggest problem with French cinema is that it tries so
> hard to be something (endearing, hardcore, artistic, intellectual etc)
> and the end result simply does not often come off as authentic - there's
> only style but not good enough story or true depth of characters.
> Try a few essential French New Wave films and see for yourself... lots
> of it is all style over substance. Sometimes it works but more often
> doesn't. The action films sometimes feel outright amateurish.
> I have rated around 150 films which list the country and language as
> France and French... My average rating for these films is 6,1 while my
> average for all films is 6,45. So yes, French films often do let down.
I like some of Truffaut's stuff, like "Shoot the Piano Player" and the Doinel series. A lot of other French directors are annoying for the reasons you cited. A little bit of Godard or Resnais is more than enough. The Italians don't seem to take themselves as seriously even in highly stylized films.
> As for French films... I have watched recently-ish a lot and there are
> good ones and bad ones but in general the French style feels often
> designed to be intellectual (pseudo) and quirky for the sake of
> quirkiness (which is exactly the problem with Amelie). The action films
> are often overly hardcore/tough to the point of ridiculousness.
> I would say the biggest problem with French cinema is that it tries so
> hard to be something (endearing, hardcore, artistic, intellectual etc)
> and the end result simply does not often come off as authentic - there's
> only style but not good enough story or true depth of characters.
> Try a few essential French New Wave films and see for yourself... lots
> of it is all style over substance. Sometimes it works but more often
> doesn't. The action films sometimes feel outright amateurish.
> I have rated around 150 films which list the country and language as
> France and French... My average rating for these films is 6,1 while my
> average for all films is 6,45. So yes, French films often do let down.
Court_1
Jun 22, 2017, 11:57:48 AM6/22/17
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On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 10:40:13 AM UTC-4, TT wrote:
> I liked Diabolique (6/10), although thought it wasn't quite the classic
> it's supposed to be.
I disagree 100%. Diabolique is precisely the classic it's supposed to be and more. I think it's a brilliant film. I would give it at least an 8/10.
> I liked Diabolique (6/10), although thought it wasn't quite the classic
> it's supposed to be.
> As for French films... I have watched recently-ish a lot and there are
> good ones and bad ones but in general the French style feels often
> designed to be intellectual (pseudo) and quirky for the sake of
> quirkiness (which is exactly the problem with Amelie). The action films
> are often overly hardcore/tough to the point of ridiculousness.
>
> I would say the biggest problem with French cinema is that it tries so
> hard to be something (endearing, hardcore, artistic, intellectual etc)
> and the end result simply does not often come off as authentic - there's
> only style but not good enough story or true depth of characters.
>
> Try a few essential French New Wave films and see for yourself... lots
> of it is all style over substance. Sometimes it works but more often
> doesn't. The action films sometimes feel outright amateurish.
>
> I have rated around 150 films which list the country and language as
> France and French... My average rating for these films is 6,1 while my
> average for all films is 6,45. So yes, French films often do let down.
But while you and I agree on some films that we both like, there are many we disagree about and seem to have quite different movie tastes. That's what makes the world go around.
Court_1
Jun 22, 2017, 12:03:46 PM6/22/17
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Gracchus
Jun 22, 2017, 12:09:12 PM6/22/17
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On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 8:57:48 AM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
> I probably wouldn't watch any French action films. That's not my thing. But I disagree with you about French films as I feel a lot of quality films have come out of France, i.e. films like Amour, Au revoir les enfants, Incendies, A Very Long Engagement, etc. With respect to Amelie, I don't know if I will like it or not but I can say for sure that I did like director Jean-Pierre Jeunet's film A Very Long Engagement and did not find that it was style over substance at all. In fact I would say it had equal parts style and substance. I was really impressed with the film and the director.
"Incendies" is Canadian, like director Villeneuve, right?
> I probably wouldn't watch any French action films. That's not my thing. But I disagree with you about French films as I feel a lot of quality films have come out of France, i.e. films like Amour, Au revoir les enfants, Incendies, A Very Long Engagement, etc. With respect to Amelie, I don't know if I will like it or not but I can say for sure that I did like director Jean-Pierre Jeunet's film A Very Long Engagement and did not find that it was style over substance at all. In fact I would say it had equal parts style and substance. I was really impressed with the film and the director.
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Jun 22, 2017, 12:22:39 PM6/22/17
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Gracchus
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(Scifi) was pure weirdness for weirdness' sake, it made no sense
whatsoever (and looked very good).
He apparently also directed Alien: Resurrection, which was proficiently
made and quite normal Alien film.
TT
Jun 22, 2017, 12:35:17 PM6/22/17
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Gracchus
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Carey
Jun 22, 2017, 12:56:44 PM6/22/17
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Has anyone here seen the Italian thriller 'The Double Hour'? I liked it and
would like to hear others' opinions.
Court_1
Jun 22, 2017, 1:51:22 PM6/22/17
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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/film/incendies-a-poetic-tale-of-violent-trauma-and-reconciliation/article627779/
Court_1
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grif
Jun 22, 2017, 2:29:12 PM6/22/17
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On 22/06/2017 17:03, Court_1 wrote:
>
> Why are you trying to get Carey to watch Amelie again? He already said he liked the movie. Let him like what he likes. Grif liked Amelie too. I think I have more in common in terms of movies taste with Grif than anybody else on this ng aside from some of that immature action crap he likes. :) He seems to have a very wide range of movies he likes but seems to like a lot of quality movies of all genres IMO.
>
https://giphy.com/gifs/QwryTNWtHPc1q/html5
>
> Why are you trying to get Carey to watch Amelie again? He already said he liked the movie. Let him like what he likes. Grif liked Amelie too. I think I have more in common in terms of movies taste with Grif than anybody else on this ng aside from some of that immature action crap he likes. :) He seems to have a very wide range of movies he likes but seems to like a lot of quality movies of all genres IMO.
>
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grif
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TT
Jun 22, 2017, 3:10:50 PM6/22/17
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Jordan, funded by Canadians, directed by a Canadian and actors seem to
be Canadian as well...
When I click the first French sounding name at IMDB I get...
Rémy Girard
Under his bio it reads:
"Rémy Girard was born on August 10, 1950 in Jonquière, Quebec, Canada."
(snip)
"He met Steven Spielberg for a role in München (2005), but because it
was a French character, a real Frenchman got the part."
Gracchus
Jun 22, 2017, 3:18:38 PM6/22/17
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TT
Jun 22, 2017, 3:28:58 PM6/22/17
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Court_1 kirjoitti 22.6.2017 klo 20:55:
> I think that Alien movie bombed.
Not really.
> I think that Alien movie bombed.
http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Alien#tab=summary
Guypers
Jun 22, 2017, 3:54:39 PM6/22/17
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TT
Jun 22, 2017, 4:14:20 PM6/22/17
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country as "Austria | France | Germany"
But hell, 'Au revoir les enfants' is indeed a French film directed by a
French director (Malle) - although IMDB does list the country as "France
| West Germany | Italy"...
And indeed it is a decent film although I recall the story being rather
minimal and it feeling a bit slow at times. Gave it a 6.
Maybe better examples of thoroughly French film about kids would be:
Truffaut's '400 Blows', which I have at 7.
Clement's 'Forbidden Games', which I rated 8.
bob
Jun 22, 2017, 7:57:31 PM6/22/17
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On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:03:31 +0300, TT <as...@dprk.kp> wrote:
>bob kirjoitti 22.6.2017 klo 6:06:
>> On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 12:28:53 -0700 (PDT), Gracchus
>> <grac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 12:14:59 PM UTC-7, Carey wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 12:01:10 PM UTC-7, grif wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Small pleasures. This is the part I always remember about Amelie. I like quirky and I like whimsy and this film has it in spades. It has a very evocative musical score by Yann Tiersen.
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmllotLUU38
>>>
>>>> Good stuff! I especially enjoyed all the interactions in the cafe where A worked. Forgot about the
>>>> fitting music. I will watch it again soon.
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe I'll finally watch it. I haven't seen anything annoyingly quirky and whimsical since trying an episode of "The Durrells."
>>
>> laying 3:1 odds you think it's no better than so-so.
>>
>> bob
>>
>
>I have it at 6... but I have a feeling that with a second viewing it
>might drop much lower...
>
>I can't for the life of me remember the story (maybe there wasn't
>much)... but I have a recollection that it is good looking visually and
>different (quirky). I have to question my rating though since above all
>I recall the film being rubbish with annoying characters.
girl with cat tries to be matchmaker for a friend. i recall it
somewhat and recall it was very average, despite excellent reviews.
bob
>bob kirjoitti 22.6.2017 klo 6:06:
>> On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 12:28:53 -0700 (PDT), Gracchus
>> <grac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 12:14:59 PM UTC-7, Carey wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 12:01:10 PM UTC-7, grif wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Small pleasures. This is the part I always remember about Amelie. I like quirky and I like whimsy and this film has it in spades. It has a very evocative musical score by Yann Tiersen.
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmllotLUU38
>>>
>>>> Good stuff! I especially enjoyed all the interactions in the cafe where A worked. Forgot about the
>>>> fitting music. I will watch it again soon.
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe I'll finally watch it. I haven't seen anything annoyingly quirky and whimsical since trying an episode of "The Durrells."
>>
>> laying 3:1 odds you think it's no better than so-so.
>>
>> bob
>>
>
>I have it at 6... but I have a feeling that with a second viewing it
>might drop much lower...
>
>I can't for the life of me remember the story (maybe there wasn't
>much)... but I have a recollection that it is good looking visually and
>different (quirky). I have to question my rating though since above all
>I recall the film being rubbish with annoying characters.
girl with cat tries to be matchmaker for a friend. i recall it
somewhat and recall it was very average, despite excellent reviews.
bob
bob
Jun 22, 2017, 7:59:58 PM6/22/17
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On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 21:33:34 -0700 (PDT), Gracchus
<grac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 8:52:11 PM UTC-7, Carey wrote:
>
>> C1, if you watch Amelie, let us know what you think.
>
>A film about a quirky gamin will be irresistible to someone who liked "Chocolat."
2 french girls in those 2 movies. same result. in fact, they're
similar in their mediocrity. IMO.
bob
<grac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 8:52:11 PM UTC-7, Carey wrote:
>
>> C1, if you watch Amelie, let us know what you think.
>
>A film about a quirky gamin will be irresistible to someone who liked "Chocolat."
2 french girls in those 2 movies. same result. in fact, they're
similar in their mediocrity. IMO.
bob
Court_1
Jun 22, 2017, 9:17:07 PM6/22/17
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On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 3:18:38 PM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
> > But my link above and IMDb both list France and Canada as the countries of origin.
>
> LOL. Just admit that it doesn't belong with the true French films you listed. Because it obviously doesn't. Who knows, maybe a French financier contributed some money or maybe the people who labeled it don't know the difference between French and French-Canadian. It's a Canadian film regardless.
I don't think it's an authentic French film like Diabolique is for example but the countries listed are Canada and France. Why? I don't know.
> > But my link above and IMDb both list France and Canada as the countries of origin.
>
> LOL. Just admit that it doesn't belong with the true French films you listed. Because it obviously doesn't. Who knows, maybe a French financier contributed some money or maybe the people who labeled it don't know the difference between French and French-Canadian. It's a Canadian film regardless.
Court_1
Jun 22, 2017, 9:28:54 PM6/22/17
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"The film grossed $47.7 million in North America, the least successful of the Alien series on that continent. It was well received internationally, however, with a gross of $113.5 million, bringing its total gross to $161.2 million."
"Alien: Resurrection was released on November 26,1997 and received mixed reviews from film critics. Roger Ebert of the Chicago Sun-Times felt "there is not a single shot in the movie to fill one with wonder", later naming it one of the worst films of 1997."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien:_Resurrection#Critical_reception
It wasn't as highly regarded as some of Jeunet's other films such as Amelie, A Very Long Engagement and Delicatessen.
Court_1
Jun 22, 2017, 9:32:17 PM6/22/17
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On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 7:59:58 PM UTC-4, bob wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 21:33:34 -0700 (PDT), Gracchus
> On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 21:33:34 -0700 (PDT), Gracchus
> wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 8:52:11 PM UTC-7, Carey wrote:
> >
> >> C1, if you watch Amelie, let us know what you think.
> >
> >A film about a quirky gamin will be irresistible to someone who liked "Chocolat."
>
> 2 french girls in those 2 movies. same result. in fact, they're
> similar in their mediocrity. IMO.
>
> bob
The only thing mediocre is your opinion. Chocolat was far from mediocre and was very quaint IMO.
>
> >On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 8:52:11 PM UTC-7, Carey wrote:
> >
> >> C1, if you watch Amelie, let us know what you think.
> >
> >A film about a quirky gamin will be irresistible to someone who liked "Chocolat."
>
> 2 french girls in those 2 movies. same result. in fact, they're
> similar in their mediocrity. IMO.
>
> bob
TT
Jun 23, 2017, 7:53:01 AM6/23/17
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I liked Alien Resurrection a lot, mainly because Weaver was so damn bad
ass... definitely better than Alien 3.
Court_1
Jun 23, 2017, 9:01:12 AM6/23/17
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TT
Jun 23, 2017, 9:14:51 AM6/23/17
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If it's serious and NOT quirky romance then I could consider.
Sort of like...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0783233/reference
Which I liked a lot.
Court_1
Jun 23, 2017, 9:31:57 AM6/23/17
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Gracchus
Jun 23, 2017, 11:03:32 AM6/23/17
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On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 6:31:57 AM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
> It's not a quirky romance at all although the film does have characters with quirks and it does have its lighthearted moments mixed in with the horrors of war. It's really a war film with some pretty disturbing war scenes but it's also a romance, mystery, adventure. If you liked Atonement, I think you may like this one. Give it a shot and tell me what you think. Jodi Foster has a cameo role in it.
If that last bit was supposed to be incentive...
> It's not a quirky romance at all although the film does have characters with quirks and it does have its lighthearted moments mixed in with the horrors of war. It's really a war film with some pretty disturbing war scenes but it's also a romance, mystery, adventure. If you liked Atonement, I think you may like this one. Give it a shot and tell me what you think. Jodi Foster has a cameo role in it.
bob
Jun 23, 2017, 7:57:38 PM6/23/17
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movies. not bad, not great.
bob
Court_1
Jun 23, 2017, 8:16:41 PM6/23/17
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On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 7:57:38 PM UTC-4, bob wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 18:32:16 -0700 (PDT), Court_1
>
>
> On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 18:32:16 -0700 (PDT), Court_1
>
>
> >On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 7:59:58 PM UTC-4, bob wrote:
> >> On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 21:33:34 -0700 (PDT), Gracchus
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 8:52:11 PM UTC-7, Carey wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> C1, if you watch Amelie, let us know what you think.
> >> >
> >> >A film about a quirky gamin will be irresistible to someone who liked "Chocolat."
> >>
> >> 2 french girls in those 2 movies. same result. in fact, they're
> >> similar in their mediocrity. IMO.
> >>
> >> bob
> >
> >The only thing mediocre is your opinion. Chocolat was far from mediocre and was very quaint IMO.
>
> you say "quaint" like that ensures it's a good movie. both mediocre
> movies. not bad, not great.
>
> bob
I'm not saying "quaint" as if ensures a good movie. I'm saying "I" found Chocolat charming/quaint and enjoyed it. It was not mediocre at all IMO. I could give you a list of 100 mediocre movies and Chocolat wouldn't be on that list.
> >> On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 21:33:34 -0700 (PDT), Gracchus
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 8:52:11 PM UTC-7, Carey wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> C1, if you watch Amelie, let us know what you think.
> >> >
> >> >A film about a quirky gamin will be irresistible to someone who liked "Chocolat."
> >>
> >> 2 french girls in those 2 movies. same result. in fact, they're
> >> similar in their mediocrity. IMO.
> >>
> >> bob
> >
> >The only thing mediocre is your opinion. Chocolat was far from mediocre and was very quaint IMO.
>
> you say "quaint" like that ensures it's a good movie. both mediocre
> movies. not bad, not great.
>
> bob
Why would we agree on this topic? We don't agree on much.
Court_1
Jun 23, 2017, 8:22:20 PM6/23/17
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Jun 23, 2017, 8:32:39 PM6/23/17
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Gracchus
Jun 23, 2017, 9:16:18 PM6/23/17
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grif
Jun 23, 2017, 9:37:59 PM6/23/17
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On 22/06/2017 01:38, Court_1 wrote:
>
You were right that I would like "A Very Long Engagement". It's a pretty good film that is an interesting mix of genres. It's also not that quirky a film - a lot less than I expected anyway. Hmm, this is actually the 5th film directed by Jean-Pierre Jeunet that I've seen. Now for more popcorn films.
> On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 3:01:10 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:
>
>
>> Small pleasures. This is the part I always remember about Amelie. I like quirky and I like whimsy and this film has it in spades. It has a very evocative musical score by Yann Tiersen.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmllotLUU38
>
> Way to go Grifie! High five! I must watch Amelie. I think you would also like director Jean-Pierre Jeunet's film A Very Long Engagement. I enjoyed the heck out of it! It has everything you would want for two hours of entertainment, i.e. treacherous war scenes, romance, mystery, adventure, incredible cinematography, etc.
>
>
>> Small pleasures. This is the part I always remember about Amelie. I like quirky and I like whimsy and this film has it in spades. It has a very evocative musical score by Yann Tiersen.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmllotLUU38
>
>
You were right that I would like "A Very Long Engagement". It's a pretty good film that is an interesting mix of genres. It's also not that quirky a film - a lot less than I expected anyway. Hmm, this is actually the 5th film directed by Jean-Pierre Jeunet that I've seen. Now for more popcorn films.
bob
Jun 23, 2017, 9:41:34 PM6/23/17
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On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 18:16:16 -0700 (PDT), Gracchus
<grac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 5:32:39 PM UTC-7, bob wrote:
>> On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 17:22:19 -0700 (PDT), Court_1
>> <olymp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 11:03:32 AM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
>
>> >> If that last bit was supposed to be incentive...
>> >
>> >About Jodi Foster? I like her and she's got a nice cameo role in the film. What don't you like about Jodi Foster? She isn't one of those bird-brained actors who has been a fame whore. She's an educated person who did her job acting and then wanted to be as far away from the BS and Hollywood madness as possible.
>>
>> jodi foster was elevated to a level far above her real ability, IMO.
>
>She's ok in some things, but I was never very impressed by her. Some critics raved over her performance in "Nell." I thought it was comical. IMO she also has poor chemistry with some of the actors they pair her with. Maybe that has to do with her "orientation" or maybe not.
maybe her "orientation" has to do with her reviews. or maybe not. :-))
<grac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 5:32:39 PM UTC-7, bob wrote:
>> On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 17:22:19 -0700 (PDT), Court_1
>> <olymp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 11:03:32 AM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
>
>> >> If that last bit was supposed to be incentive...
>> >
>> >About Jodi Foster? I like her and she's got a nice cameo role in the film. What don't you like about Jodi Foster? She isn't one of those bird-brained actors who has been a fame whore. She's an educated person who did her job acting and then wanted to be as far away from the BS and Hollywood madness as possible.
>>
>> jodi foster was elevated to a level far above her real ability, IMO.
>
>She's ok in some things, but I was never very impressed by her. Some critics raved over her performance in "Nell." I thought it was comical. IMO she also has poor chemistry with some of the actors they pair her with. Maybe that has to do with her "orientation" or maybe not.
>Foster and Gere in "Sommersby" for example? Painful. Oh yeah, and she thinks Mel Gibson is a great guy.
Court_1
Jun 23, 2017, 9:46:30 PM6/23/17
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On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 8:33:37 PM UTC-4, bob wrote:
> who did you prefer in chocolate? depp or binoche?
I'm not a big fan of either one. I liked the Chocolat story and both Depp and Binoche were fine in it.
> who did you prefer in chocolate? depp or binoche?
Court_1
Jun 23, 2017, 9:50:26 PM6/23/17
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On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 9:16:18 PM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
> On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 5:32:39 PM UTC-7, bob wrote:
> > On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 17:22:19 -0700 (PDT), Court_1
> On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 5:32:39 PM UTC-7, bob wrote:
> > On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 17:22:19 -0700 (PDT), Court_1
> > wrote:
> >
> > >On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 11:03:32 AM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
>
> > >> If that last bit was supposed to be incentive...
> > >
> > >About Jodi Foster? I like her and she's got a nice cameo role in the film. What don't you like about Jodi Foster? She isn't one of those bird-brained actors who has been a fame whore. She's an educated person who did her job acting and then wanted to be as far away from the BS and Hollywood madness as possible.
> >
> > jodi foster was elevated to a level far above her real ability, IMO.
>
> She's ok in some things, but I was never very impressed by her. Some critics raved over her performance in "Nell." I thought it was comical. IMO she also has poor chemistry with some of the actors they pair her with. Maybe that has to do with her "orientation" or maybe not. Foster and Gere in "Sommersby" for example? Painful. Oh yeah, and she thinks Mel Gibson is a great guy.
I agree that Nell was terrible and comical! But Foster was good in The Accused, Silence of the Lambs, Anna and the King, etc. More importantly, she appears to have an actual brain (rare for most actors) and as I said, she stays away from all of the fame whore stuff, speaks her mind and doesn't give a hoot what anybody thinks. She's elegant looking too when she dresses up for the big events.
> >
> > >On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 11:03:32 AM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
>
> > >> If that last bit was supposed to be incentive...
> > >
> > >About Jodi Foster? I like her and she's got a nice cameo role in the film. What don't you like about Jodi Foster? She isn't one of those bird-brained actors who has been a fame whore. She's an educated person who did her job acting and then wanted to be as far away from the BS and Hollywood madness as possible.
> >
> > jodi foster was elevated to a level far above her real ability, IMO.
>
> She's ok in some things, but I was never very impressed by her. Some critics raved over her performance in "Nell." I thought it was comical. IMO she also has poor chemistry with some of the actors they pair her with. Maybe that has to do with her "orientation" or maybe not. Foster and Gere in "Sommersby" for example? Painful. Oh yeah, and she thinks Mel Gibson is a great guy.
Court_1
Jun 23, 2017, 9:57:45 PM6/23/17
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On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 9:37:59 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:
> > Way to go Grifie! High five! I must watch Amelie. I think you would also like director Jean-Pierre Jeunet's film A Very Long Engagement. I enjoyed the heck out of it! It has everything you would want for two hours of entertainment, i.e. treacherous war scenes, romance, mystery, adventure, incredible cinematography, etc.
> >
>
> You were right that I would like "A Very Long Engagement". It's a pretty good film that is an interesting mix of genres. It's also not that quirky a film - a lot less than I expected anyway. Hmm, this is actually the 5th film directed by Jean-Pierre Jeunet that I've seen. Now for more popcorn films.
Grif, you are a star! xoxo
> > Way to go Grifie! High five! I must watch Amelie. I think you would also like director Jean-Pierre Jeunet's film A Very Long Engagement. I enjoyed the heck out of it! It has everything you would want for two hours of entertainment, i.e. treacherous war scenes, romance, mystery, adventure, incredible cinematography, etc.
> >
>
> You were right that I would like "A Very Long Engagement". It's a pretty good film that is an interesting mix of genres. It's also not that quirky a film - a lot less than I expected anyway. Hmm, this is actually the 5th film directed by Jean-Pierre Jeunet that I've seen. Now for more popcorn films.
It's more of a serious war film with quirky characters(each character has his/her quirks.) But it's also a mystery and adventure and has some fantastical elements. It's a great mix of genres and the cinematography is stunning. I'm glad you liked it. You have good taste in movies. Do you think TT would like A Very Long Engagement?
You saw Jeunet's film Delicatessen? Did you like it? Do you think I'd like it?
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