The Connors-Wilander-Edberg oddity
Raja, The Great
Edberg never defeated Connors in slams. Connors leads Edberg 3-0 in
slams.
Can someone explain WTF was happening?
jdeluise
On 22-Apr-2011, "Raja, The Great" <zepf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can someone explain WTF was happening?
Tennis happened.
Shakes
Connors beating Edberg in the USO in 1989 was stunning, to say the
least. I think it was in 3 or 4 sets, and Connors was 37 yrs old.
Shakes
Some things to ponder: Becker never played Courier in a slam, while it
appeared that Edberg was playing Courier all the time between 1991 and
1993. Edberg never played Agassi in a slam until 1995, while it
appeared that Becker was always running into Agassi.
Superdave
its called matchups. a beats b, b beats c and c beats a. regularly.
go figure.
Manuel aka Xax
Edberg no that good vs lefties?
More seriously: typical matchup results.
uly...@mscomm.com
Connors' FH (Lendl did the same thing post-1983). Connors never
handled the low FH well, especially as he got older. And remember that
Connors never played Mats until he was in his early 30's and Mats was
then just a teen. Huge advantage to Wilander right there.
TT
Edberg was a joke.
Carey
Poor TT.
TT
Well why did he lose to a geriatric then?
Whisper
From memory it was 62 63 61 to Connors.
Raja, The Great
Thats because Connors is Connors. He could pick up a racket now and
beat Rafa/Fed in a match and you wouldn't be shocked. Connors was a
great fighter. All respect to him.
Iceberg
agreed, for once.
uly...@mscomm.com
What a fucking cretin you are. Seriously. Unless you're less than 16
years old, why are even posting some errant nonsense here?
Stefan Edberg was a great, great player. An ambassador of the game, a
gorgeous player to watch, elegant and effortless. The second greatest
volleyer in the history of the sport. A class act, a beautiful spirit
on and off the court. Someone who wins 6 slams in an era choked full
of tennis geniuses is a "joke?"
Crawl back in your filthy, diarhea-filled hole. Strap on a gas mask
and wallow in your own feces.
What a complete tennis moron you are.
Oh, but I forgot. You jerk off endlessly over a tennis Neaderthal, who
takes 27 seconds between points, endlessly picks his ass on court,
groans hideously on each ball strike and has the elegance factor of a
three-toed sloth.
Edberg was beauty incarnate. Maybe if you took your head out of your
filthy ass for more than .02 seconds, you might realize it. Good luck.
Raja, The Great
For once I think TT deserved this kind of put down.
drew
I think I can explain a little bit because I can remember this
match.
Edberg really didn't like the New York crowds and Connors brought out
the worst (or the best perhaps)
from the New York crowd. They loved Jimmy because he was a down and
dirty fighter and that night it
was very dirty. Connors was as obscene and offensive as he could be.
And he was playing well. I don't
want to take anything away from Connors. He could still play some
great matches in his late 30s but I think
that with due respect to Connors, the whole scene with Connors
swearing and acting out and the crowd feeding
him....Edberg didn't have the stomach for it.
TT
lol. I see you have hots for him.
Imo he's one of those players whose reputation is greater than actual
playing abilities. Always worth a put-down...sort of like Safin whose
game and "talent" is adored among tennis fans.
felangey
If any more evidence was needed that you are a clueless moron....geez.
drew
> Imo he's one of those players whose reputation is greater than actual
> playing abilities.
Well, then you really didn't watch him play. If anything, Edberg has
been
underrated. He was a great grass court player and his run at the USO
when
he played something like 3 five setters in a row to win it was also
testament
to his guts and fitness...two qualities that many forget when they
talk about
his game.
Raja, The Great
I think the 1992 USO win was the greatest win ever. And I don't think
any of Lendl and McEnroe (two of my most favorite players) wins were
as great.
Patrick Kehoe
Edberg was an amazing player to watch... like a panther on court...
but he did struggle at times on the forehand, when he had to really
unload with it...
P
Sakari Lund
wrote:
>On Apr 23, 8:41 pm, TT <as...@usenet.org> wrote:
>
>
>> Imo he's one of those players whose reputation is greater than actual
>> playing abilities.
>
>Well, then you really didn't watch him play.
Bingo!
>If anything, Edberg has been underrated.
Yes. The best player to watch in the old, fast grass courts late 80's
and early 90's. It could get very boring watching Becker, Sampras,
Ivanisevic, but Edberg was like fine art.
Iceberg
the shame about Safin was that he was significantly better than Fed,
but didn't bother doing much about it, quite similar to Gasquet, who's
an even more tragic example.
Iceberg
yes, even as a young kid, I found him great to watch.
TT
In other words, boring.
TT
I disagree. But obviously his on-court behaviour would make you believe
so..."I'm too good playing like this" (breaks his 500th racket to make
his point)
> but didn't bother doing much about it, quite similar to Gasquet, who's
> an even more tragic example.
Yeah, with both it was about too many ladies, asscracks and coke. Oh wait...
Denko is probably the biggest underachiever of Fed's "generation". And
Nalby is Nalby.
Superdave
Boring is watching a cockaroach CHEAT for unbearable hours and hours and hours.
in a match that shoud have been over hours ago.
Whisper
He was kinda boring, but when he was on his volleys were great to watch,
especially on the Kooyong grass.
His forehand was a shocker though. My grandma had a better looking fh.