Nishikori is the guy the best players have to watch out for

Court_1

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Oct 30, 2014, 1:13:03 PM10/30/14

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His ball striking is fabulous. When he is "on" and not injured, he is a big threat to Djokovic, Federer, etc.

jdeluise

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Oct 30, 2014, 2:17:08 PM10/30/14

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Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> writes:

> His ball striking is fabulous. When he is "on" and not injured, he is
> a big threat to Djokovic, Federer, etc.

But that's the problem, he's both mentally and physically fragile. Of
course I can't be sure, but I strongly doubt he will be winning slams.

ahonkan

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Oct 30, 2014, 2:29:24 PM10/30/14

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On Thursday, 30 October 2014 22:43:03 UTC+5:30, Court_1 wrote:
> His ball striking is fabulous. When he is "on" and not injured, he is a big threat to Djokovic, Federer, etc.

... and he was cleaning Rafa's clock for a set & half before getting injured at Madrid on clay! I still think his relatively short stature is a major hurdle in winning big titles.

Isn't this the guy you were calling a clown until yesterday? What gives?

InsideOut

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Oct 30, 2014, 2:38:03 PM10/30/14

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> His ball striking is fabulous. When he is "on" and not injured, he is a
> big threat to Djokovic, > Federer, etc.

Weren't you skeptical of the guy when I first arrived - it rings a bell,
brother? <w><g>

I agree though, Kei Nishikori is for me the most exciting new player by some
margin.

Court_1

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Oct 30, 2014, 2:49:45 PM10/30/14

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Yes, I was and am skeptical about Nishikori because of all of his injuries. But if he can somehow improve in that area, he is the best out of his age group by far. He has impressed me since Madrid.

Court_1

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Oct 30, 2014, 2:53:41 PM10/30/14

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On Thursday, October 30, 2014 2:17:08 PM UTC-4, jdeluise wrote:
> Court_1 > > His ball striking is fabulous. When he is "on" and not injured, he is

> > a big threat to Djokovic, Federer, etc.
>
> But that's the problem, he's both mentally and physically fragile. Of
> course I can't be sure, but I strongly doubt he will be winning slams.

I am not sure if he is going to win slams or not but the thing is he has an even record vs both Federer and Djokovic. How many younger players can claim that? At least he can go out there and compete against the best guys if he is not injured.

The Iceberg

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Oct 30, 2014, 3:02:31 PM10/30/14

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Nishi hasn't ever beaten Nadal nor Murray!

jdeluise

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Oct 30, 2014, 3:04:41 PM10/30/14

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Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> writes:

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> I am not sure if he is going to win slams or not but the thing is he
> has an even record vs both Federer and Djokovic. How many younger
> players can claim that? At least he can go out there and compete
> against the best guys if he is not injured.

As you would probably say, who cares about that...? The only thing that
matters is winning slams and big titles. Who cares if he vultures a win
against a big player and then goes on to lose in the next round?

;)

Court_1

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Oct 30, 2014, 3:13:20 PM10/30/14

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On Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:04:41 PM UTC-4, jdeluise wrote:
> Court_1 >
>
> >

True enough! :) Let's see if he can beat these guys and go on and win the title.

Court_1

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Oct 30, 2014, 3:16:30 PM10/30/14

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True enough but he almost got the job done vs Nadal in Madrid and he has not played Murray in almost two years.

TT

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Oct 30, 2014, 3:25:35 PM10/30/14

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I wouldn't call him a new player...

His ability was already clear after his 2008 match against Rafa at
Queens... "his forehand kills you every time", Rafa commented.

Court_1

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Oct 30, 2014, 3:29:56 PM10/30/14

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Nishikori is equally sound off of both wings. Very Agassi-like.

TT

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Oct 30, 2014, 3:35:59 PM10/30/14

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30.10.2014 20:53, Court_1 kirjoitti:
> I am not sure if he is going to win slams or not but the thing is he has an even record vs both Federer and Djokovic.

Actually combined winning record at 4-3. Against Rafa&Murray he's 0-10.

That makes a total of 4/17 = 24% against Big Four... which is btw worse
than Tsonga, Delpo and Berdych who you so much detest...

TT

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Oct 30, 2014, 3:44:58 PM10/30/14

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But if he wins a title you're going to say that he needs to do it
twice... while preferably beating all of Big 4 in process, twice.

Court_1

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Oct 30, 2014, 3:53:37 PM10/30/14

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Give Nishikori time. Del Potro, Berdych and Tsonga have been around a lot longer and have played many more matches vs the Big Four.

Court_1

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Oct 30, 2014, 3:56:16 PM10/30/14

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Let him start with one! :) I don't think it will be easy for him but he is more capable than some other in the top ten IMO. I just get frustrated with all of his injuries.

I like Cilic too. Let's hope he is not another Wawrinka!

jdeluise

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Oct 30, 2014, 3:58:18 PM10/30/14

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Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> writes:

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> Give Nishikori time. Del Potro, Berdych and Tsonga have been around a
> lot longer and have played many more matches vs the Big Four.

He's had the time, trouble is he's likely to lose to anyone so doesn't
really matter if he threatens Djok or Fed when they are off their games.

Court_1

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Oct 30, 2014, 4:05:45 PM10/30/14

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On Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:58:18 PM UTC-4, jdeluise wrote:
> Court_1 > >

> > Give Nishikori time. Del Potro, Berdych and Tsonga have been around a
> > lot longer and have played many more matches vs the Big Four.
>
> He's had the time, trouble is he's likely to lose to anyone so doesn't
> really matter if he threatens Djok or Fed when they are off their games.

Whom do you think he will lose to in Paris?

He is reaching his peak I think. I really like him. You don't obviously. I like him because he reminds me of Agassi in terms of his ball striking. Is that why you dislike him? ;)

grif

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Oct 30, 2014, 4:21:34 PM10/30/14

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Considering that Nishi called Murray a genius, he probably fears
Braveheart the most. That would be a good match.

TT

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Oct 30, 2014, 7:24:47 PM10/30/14

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30.10.2014 22:05, Court_1 kirjoitti:
> He is reaching his peak I think.

You're probably true. He's at that age and his results also are way
better this year than before. Having Chang probably helps too.

Court_1

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Oct 30, 2014, 7:48:29 PM10/30/14

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On Thursday, October 30, 2014 4:21:34 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:

> Considering that Nishi called Murray a genius

When did he say that? Link?

Court_1

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Oct 30, 2014, 7:49:50 PM10/30/14

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Chang has definitely helped him.

grif

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Oct 30, 2014, 8:07:53 PM10/30/14

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http://www.asapsports.com/show_interview.php?id=75268

Court_1

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Oct 30, 2014, 9:44:06 PM10/30/14

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That interview was three years ago. It will be interesting to see them play NOW. The last time they played was Brisbane 2013 and he has improved since then. He may have thought Murray was a genius in 2011 but Federer is his idol and he has done fairly well vs him.

ahonkan

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Oct 31, 2014, 1:11:02 AM10/31/14

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You got her, twice :-) Is Nish taking Canadian citizenship? Why this
sudden love for Nish when he hasn't done anything worth noting by
Courty's (double) standards?

ahonkan

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Oct 31, 2014, 1:12:26 AM10/31/14

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Chang couldn't help himself. Jesus had to help him! :-)

The Iceberg

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Oct 31, 2014, 5:38:36 AM10/31/14

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The Golden Age's version of Agassi! hahahahhahah!
I like him, but reckon he's too small vs the big guys.

MBDunc

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Oct 31, 2014, 7:48:05 AM10/31/14

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On Friday, October 31, 2014 11:38:36 AM UTC+2, The Iceberg wrote:
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> The Golden Age's version of Agassi! hahahahhahah!
> I like him, but reckon he's too small vs the big guys.

Rios is the closest example (same size, same shotmaking ability) Arguably Rios was more talented/all-a-round but Nishi has slightly more power and definitely better bh.

And both are prone to injuries...

.mikko

grif

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Oct 31, 2014, 11:18:06 AM10/31/14

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Yeah, when Nishi came onto the scene, people were comparing him to Rios.

TT

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Oct 31, 2014, 8:44:07 PM10/31/14

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31.10.2014 13:48, MBDunc kirjoitti:
> Arguably Rios was more talented/all-a-round but Nishi has slightly more power and definitely better bh.

Well I don't know if Nishi actually has more power or if he just goes
for a bit too much.

The guy got skill but he played today imo TOO aggressive against Ferrer
and almost lost the match cause of UEs. (Unless of course his plan was
to not run and go for the tournament title)

Nishi has game to dominate play, but he goes for his shots a bit too
much for his own good. Wonder how this match feels in his legs tomorrow
against Djoko?