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PeteWasLucky

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Aug 11, 2017, 10:25:29 AM8/11/17
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I don't care much about the rest of the season except seven matches in the USO.

Winning the USO should be his ultimate goal.

RaspingDrive

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Aug 11, 2017, 10:29:17 AM8/11/17
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On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 10:25:29 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> I don't care much about the rest of the season except seven matches in the USO.
>
> Winning the USO should be his ultimate goal.

you afraid he may think winning Basel is the ultimate goal?

PeteWasLucky

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Aug 11, 2017, 10:45:45 AM8/11/17
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> you afraid he may think winning Basel is the ultimate goal?

No, worried he maybe trying to gather points for ranking #1 before the USO.

RaspingDrive

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Aug 11, 2017, 10:52:22 AM8/11/17
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On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 10:45:45 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> > you afraid he may think winning Basel is the ultimate goal?
>
> No, worried he maybe trying to gather points for ranking #1 before the USO.

have no such worries regarding the slam "racker". He is focused on slam winning.

PeteWasLucky

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Aug 11, 2017, 10:55:19 AM8/11/17
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> have no such worries regarding the slam "racker". He is focused on slam winning.

Hope so

Patrick Kehoe

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Aug 11, 2017, 11:30:51 AM8/11/17
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On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 7:25:29 AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> I don't care much about the rest of the season except seven matches in the USO.
>
> Winning the USO should be his ultimate goal.

Well, watching him yesterday, Federer NEEDS matches... because his game is loose right now...

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Whisper

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Aug 11, 2017, 11:31:12 AM8/11/17
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On 12/08/2017 12:25 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> I don't care much about the rest of the season except seven matches in the USO.
>
> Winning the USO should be his ultimate goal.
>
>

Send him a text just in case he's targeting some lesser events instead?



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The Iceberg

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Aug 11, 2017, 11:34:56 AM8/11/17
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Pete voted and campaigned for Hillary and is also a big big Fedfan, so he's terrified about nuclear war breaking out before the USO, he very worried that Fed might get involved and wants to make sure he isn't distracted by the news and will be safe in a bunker incase the head to New York!

PeteWasLucky

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Aug 11, 2017, 12:28:00 PM8/11/17
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> Well, watching him yesterday, Federer NEEDS matches... because his game is loose right now...

No he isn't interested plus this is bad surface and conditions to prepare for US open.

Patrick Kehoe

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Aug 11, 2017, 11:44:14 PM8/11/17
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On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 9:28:00 AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> > Well, watching him yesterday, Federer NEEDS matches... because his game is loose right now...
>
> No he isn't interested plus this is bad surface and conditions to prepare for US open.

Fed said during his on-court interview after Agut match, "the court is playing fast"...

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Manco

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Aug 11, 2017, 11:48:47 PM8/11/17
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On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 7:25:29 AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> I don't care much about the rest of the season except seven matches in the USO.
>
> Winning the USO should be his ultimate goal.

Agreed.

Patrick Kehoe

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Aug 11, 2017, 11:54:25 PM8/11/17
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Well, obviously it is his goal... ???

:)

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The Iceberg

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Aug 12, 2017, 2:36:35 AM8/12/17
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why does Fed need matches? he can pretty much walk past these guys.

PeteWasLucky

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Aug 12, 2017, 9:55:15 AM8/12/17
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> Fed said during his on-court interview after Agut match, "the court is playing fast"...

Balls are flying for sure but it's very different than the US open.

Carey

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Aug 12, 2017, 10:03:24 AM8/12/17
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On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 6:55:15 AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> > Fed said during his on-court interview after Agut match, "the court is playing fast"...
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> Balls are flying for sure but it's very different than the US open.


Problem is, it would be difficult for Fed to lose to Haase.

Whisper

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Aug 12, 2017, 11:21:33 AM8/12/17
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Exactly. Fed can just play the slams if he wants - maybe 1 tune-up
before each slam for fun.

RaspingDrive

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Aug 12, 2017, 12:24:29 PM8/12/17
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On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 11:21:33 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
> On 12/08/2017 4:36 PM, The Iceberg wrote:
> > On Friday, 11 August 2017 16:30:51 UTC+1, Patrick Kehoe wrote:
> >> On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 7:25:29 AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> >>> I don't care much about the rest of the season except seven matches in the USO.
> >>>
> >>> Winning the USO should be his ultimate goal.
> >>
> >> Well, watching him yesterday, Federer NEEDS matches... because his game is loose right now...
> >
> > why does Fed need matches? he can pretty much walk past these guys.
> >
>
>
> Exactly. Fed can just play the slams if he wants - maybe 1 tune-up
> before each slam for fun.
>

Good that he doesn't rely on advise from folks of your type. He would have fewer slams than 19!

Manuel aka Xax

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Aug 12, 2017, 2:32:52 PM8/12/17
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Le vendredi 11 août 2017 16:45:45 UTC+2, PeteWasLucky a écrit :
> > you afraid he may think winning Basel is the ultimate goal?
>
> No, worried he maybe trying to gather points for ranking #1 before the USO.

Be not worried, #1 might be his no matter how "hard" he tries to get it.
Should he win this Montreal, he will "only" need to go as deep as Nadal is going to at Cinci.

Not sure Nadal's post loss interview which was quite arrogant, and not very accurate insight (saying that was the worst match he played in 2017) will help his popularity "backstage" (locker room)...

Not that players having understood that their best chances to beat Rafa in on HC (or grass, if you're named Muller / Rosol / Brown) is limited to few contenders, anyway :-)

Manco

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Aug 12, 2017, 2:35:21 PM8/12/17
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I don't think Rafa cares about non-Spanish players in the locker room. He gets along with them and that's fine.

Patrick Kehoe

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Aug 13, 2017, 1:01:40 AM8/13/17
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Feds said today that there was 'a debate among the team" (as to weather to play in Montreal or not) and he's happy he made the decision to come to Canada (Montreal)... He mentioned in the French presser today that the transition to hard court from grass was more difficult that he expected. He said his timing on the backhand was not "where its been so far this season" and he's had a chance to work it out. During the on court interview after his semi final win AND in the media center presser he said that the court was playing fast and that will help him for later in the hardcourt season.

[Also in French] he stated - twice he mentioned - that he was tired of practice games and was getting frustrated just practicing. He felt his game needed match sharpening (and that became all to obvious in rounds 2, 3) and that's exactly what happened.

Zverev feels he's building off what he's already acheived so far this season and happily he's giving himself a lot of chances to win titles and gain big match experience... that's been critical for him this year - 4 titles and a masters level among them, of course... you can see he's just growing by the week/event... the sky is the limit for this kid!

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PeteWasLucky

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Aug 13, 2017, 5:17:53 AM8/13/17
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> Feds said today that there was 'a debate among the team" (as to weather to play in Montreal or not) and he's happy he made the decision to come to Canada (Montreal)... He mentioned in the French presser today that the transition to hard court from grass was more difficult that he

Very difficult :) he is the final, also he won the AO coming from 6 months break.


> expected. He said his timing on the backhand was not "where its been so far this season" and he's had a chance to work it out. During the on court interview after his semi final win AND in the media center presser he said that the court was playing fast and that will help him for later in the hardcourt season.

[Also in French] he stated - twice he mentioned - that he was tired of practice games and was getting frustrated just practicing. He felt his game needed match sharpening (and that became all to obvious in rounds 2, 3) and that's exactly what happened.

Yes he has been practicing too much winning two slams, two masters, one 500 :)

> Zverev feels he's building off what he's already acheived so far this season and happily he's giving himself a lot of chances to win titles and gain big match experience... that's been critical for him this year - 4 titles and a masters level among them, of course... you can see he's just growing by the week/event... the sky is the limit for this kid!

Zverev has better stats in this tournament than Federer's, so it will be all about if Federer can diffuse his serve or not.

Manuel aka Xax

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Aug 13, 2017, 7:11:57 AM8/13/17
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Le samedi 12 août 2017 20:35:21 UTC+2, Manco a écrit :
> I don't think Rafa cares about non-Spanish players in the locker room. He gets along with them and that's fine.

I wasn't talking about Rafa's consideration about other players, I was speaking about the way around.
How motivated some players can get when facing Nadal out of clay, and how successful some are indeed.

For more players, seeing that, despite having an incredible year on his own, Nadal still is *somewhat* more vulnerable when not playing on clay.
Cannot but give a bit extra boost to a wider bunch of players (those having already beat Nadal on HC, and those who came quite close to).

TT

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Aug 13, 2017, 8:55:54 AM8/13/17
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Patrick Kehoe kirjoitti 13.8.2017 klo 8:01:
> Zverev feels he's building off what he's already acheived so far this season and happily he's giving himself a lot of chances to win titles and gain big match experience


Is he there to gain experience instead of winning? Doesn't sound promising.

Carey

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Aug 13, 2017, 10:01:01 AM8/13/17
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On Sunday, August 13, 2017 at 4:11:57 AM UTC-7, Manuel aka Xax wrote:

<snip>
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> For more players, seeing that, despite having an incredible year on his own, Nadal still is *somewhat* more vulnerable when not playing on clay.
> Cannot but give a bit extra boost to a wider bunch of players (those having already beat Nadal on HC, and those who came quite close to).


+1

RaspingDrive

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Aug 13, 2017, 3:25:12 PM8/13/17
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That's just for public consumption.
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