for Raja: Rush videos from Houston last night
stephenj
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLYa6qr9_AQ
Tom Sawyer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51Bg4tnzmLg
Spirit of Radio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGf6A5I3MbQ
--
As a tourist, you become economically significant but
existentially loathsome, an insect on a dead thing.
- D. Foster Wallace
Raja, The Great
> Neil Peart drum solo:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLYa6qr9_AQ
>
> Tom Sawyer:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51Bg4tnzmLg
>
> Spirit of Radio:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGf6A5I3MbQ
did you go see them live? I just like 70s Rush. And I am sure they
played mostly 80s stuff. So I didnt go.
StephenJ
StephenJ
> did you go see them live? I just like 70s Rush. And I am sure they
> played mostly 80s stuff. So I didnt go.
They played the whole Moving Pictures album plus about 20 other songs.
70s stuff included fly by night, closer to the heart, temples of
syrinx, and working man.
Raja, The Great
oh that sounds like a nice set list. Should have made it... crap!
Raja, The Great
stephenJ
the last song was that long epic from hemispheres, 'la villa' something
or other.
TT
Must have been a painful experience.
--
"I am no more a witch than you are a wizard, and if you take away my
life God will give you blood to drink"
-Sarah Good, 1692
Raja, The Great
> stephenJ wrote:
> > Raja, The Great wrote:
> >> On Sep 26, 1:36 pm, StephenJ <sjar...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>> On Sep 26, 11:45 am, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> did you go see them live? I just like 70s Rush. And I am sure they
> >>>> played mostly 80s stuff. So I didnt go.
> >>> They played the whole Moving Pictures album plus about 20 other songs.
> >>> 70s stuff included fly by night, closer to the heart, temples of
> >>> syrinx, and working man.
>
> >> oh that sounds like a nice set list. Should have made it... crap!
>
> > the last song was that long epic from hemispheres, 'la villa' something
> > or other.
>
> Must have been a painful experience.
That "La Villa Strangiato (An Exercise in Self-Indulgence)" is an
excellent instrumental. The other epic from that album (Cygnus X-1
Book II: Hemispheres) is boring though. My favorite three Rush albums
are A Farewell To Kings (two of their best songs - Xanadu and Close To
The Heart), 2112 and Moving Pictures. I also like Fly By Night very
much. But the self titled debut, A Caress Of Steel, Hemispheres and
Permanent Waves are pretty average. All other albums after Moving
Pictures can be ignored. Their best period was from 1975-81.
TT
Have to admit that I'm not very familiar with Rush songs.
Well..listened Xanadu...looked like instrumental all the way through,
butt when the singing began, reminded me a LOT about this(lol):
Spinal Tap - Stonehenge:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xlf5ucFanpY
My favourite "Xanadu":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m1UWSD-FaA
(But then again I definitely have a crush on ONJ...)
"Closer to the Heart" sounded imo like a mix of Duran Duran, Queen and
Spinal Tap. Or perhaps something between Zeppelin and Blackmore's Night...
But yeah, some Rush songs sound pretty good and I can definitely see why
someone would like their music.
Raja, The Great
you are a freaking idiot ;)
GOYLE
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This is my favourite song by RUSH. It wasn't one of their big hits but
for what ever reason I just liked this song. I remember when this
album came out, RUSH2112
TT, RUSH was one of the american bands (Toronto) from 70's and 80's,
actually pretty popular for head-bangers and the drug users. They were
your run-of-the-mil classsic rock bands from the 70's and then changed
up and became one of the run-of-the-mil glam rock bands of the 80's.
A Passage To Bangkok lyrics:
Our first stop is in Bogota
To check Colombian fields
The natives smile and pass along
A sample of their yield
Sweet Jamaican pipe dreams
Golden Acapulco nights
Then Morocco, and the East
Fly by morning light
[Chorus:]
We're on the train to Bangkok
Aboard the Thailand Express
We'll hit the stops along the way
We only stop for the best
Wreathed in smoke in Lebanon
We burn the midnight oil
The fragrance of Afghanistan
Rewards a long day's toil
Pulling into Katmandu
Smoke rings fill the air
Perfumed by a Nepal night
The Express gets you there
Javier González
> Neil Peart drum solo:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLYa6qr9_AQ
>
> Tom Sawyer:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51Bg4tnzmLg
>
> Spirit of Radio:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGf6A5I3MbQ
So, are you glad you went to the show? :)
Raja, The Great
I thought he hated Rush. Bizarre, he went for the show.
stephenj
Yes, excellent show. They played enough of the commercial stuff to keep
it interesting.
--
there is no doubt that the black-white
power struggle in south africa is but a
microcosm of the global confrontation
between the third world and the rich white
nations of the world.
- Steve Biko
Raja, The Great
> On 9/27/2010 8:25 AM, Javier González wrote:
>
> > On Sep 26, 10:49 am, stephenj<sjar...@cox.com> wrote:
> >> Neil Peart drum solo:
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLYa6qr9_AQ
>
> >> Tom Sawyer:
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51Bg4tnzmLg
>
> >> Spirit of Radio:
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGf6A5I3MbQ
>
> > So, are you glad you went to the show? :)
>
> Yes, excellent show. They played enough of the commercial stuff to keep
> it interesting.
>
Rush were ALWAYs commercial. They just stopped showing off after a
while
Javier González
> On 9/27/2010 8:25 AM, Javier González wrote:
>
> > On Sep 26, 10:49 am, stephenj<sjar...@cox.com> wrote:
> >> Neil Peart drum solo:
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLYa6qr9_AQ
>
> >> Tom Sawyer:
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51Bg4tnzmLg
>
> >> Spirit of Radio:
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGf6A5I3MbQ
>
> > So, are you glad you went to the show? :)
>
> Yes, excellent show. They played enough of the commercial stuff to keep
> it interesting.
Man, I'm stoked up as hell for this. It's 20 days for the Santiago
show, and I've been waiting for it the best part of 20 years. Look up
in youtube some videos from Rush In Rio, that's how it's going to roll
in Santiago - wild crowd, I'm guessing around 40k people.
Javier González
Oh, and thanks for the videos :)
TT
Rush is like chicken - tastes like everything and nothing.
GOYLE
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Chicken? I don't know since I'm trying to stick to a vegan diet.
Raja, The Great
Chicken is really the worst tasting meat out there. Rush is far from
chicken. They are like seafood, some of it is really good ;-)
Javier González
Actually, Rush is like criadillas. Delicious, with subtle flavors
beneath the primary ones, and dismissed by most because they can't
wrap their heads around the concept of eating balls ;)
Joe Ramirez
I was sorely tempted to attend the Rush show here the week before last
-- the third concert ever in our brand new arena (first two were Paul
McCartney and Lady Gaga). My wife hates Rush, but I probably could
have gone with my sister-in-law, as I did for a Rush concert back in
the 1990s. However, the show was less than 36 hours before we had to
leave on a very early morning flight to California, so I had to pass.
Unfortunately for me, the review was glowing, implying that it was one
of Rush's greatest shows ever here. (Rush has a long history in this
town -- the band's very first concert with Neil Peart took place in
Pittsburgh.) Anyway, hope you enjoy it.
Javier González
Oh, I will. I'll probably have my good phone back so I'll try to get
you some pics/video of what a real concert crowd is :-)
("front row *seats*? We don't need no steenkin seats!" ;-)
TT
Bravo!
Also, I think you just described why I'm not a Fedfan. har har har.
stephenj
This doesn't applly to Rush, but more generally, for some reason,
one0time big-name rock bands seem to remain popular down in South
America long after their US salad days are gone. Bands like Judas Priest
that were big 25 years ago but play clubs in the USA today still draw
20,000 down there. It's bewildering.
--
when you die it's the same as if everybody else did too.
- C. McCarthy
stephenj
> Oh, and thanks for the videos :)
my pleasure. Here's one more, "subdivisions":
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=stephenj2#p/a/u/0/ocgqdxtwLtA
--
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liberty to govern themselves under rules of their own choice.
- Akhil Amar, Yale Law School
the right in the people to participate in the legislature is the
foundation of liberty and of all free government.
- Delaware Constitution, Declaration of Rights (1776)
Raja, The Great
Thats because S. America still has good taste in music. Actually the
fact is heavy metal is very big in S. America even now... so Iron
Maiden, Rush, AC/DC, Judas Priest etc who are heavy/hard will have a
big audience there.
Javier González
The simplest explanation is that we don't get a lot of shows down
here. Metallica is one of the biggest rock acts ever, and they've
played in Santiago just 3 times (93, 99, and 2010). So you've got to
go. U2, 2 times. Rolling Stones, just once that I remember. Bon Jovi
is expected to pull no less than 40k people on this Friday! (3rd time
in the country I think, the first time they came at the height of
their popularity in 1989 and had 60k people, I believe the second
"arena" concert ever in Chile, the first was Rod Stewart :)
For Rush, with the rabid "Rush as a religious experience" fans, is a
"once in a lifetime, will never be repeated" show. People have waited
decades for this. The producers know this and gouged us nicely - I
paid close to USD200 for a lawn (no seat) ticket, and that's because I
used a 20% discount because my cell phone provider sponsors the event.
All in all, I'm super happy, I was ready to pay five hundred, easily.
stephenj
> For Rush, with the rabid "Rush as a religious experience" fans, is a
> "once in a lifetime, will never be repeated" show. People have waited
> decades for this. The producers know this and gouged us nicely - I
> paid close to USD200 for a lawn (no seat) ticket, and that's because I
> used a 20% discount because my cell phone provider sponsors the event.
> All in all, I'm super happy, I was ready to pay five hundred, easily.
They'll gouge you on the souvenir t-shirts too. Rush didn't have
anything on sale for less than $35.
Heck, i only paid $35 for my lawn ticket, and it had a great view, LOL.
--
"Afghanistan has become 'our Vietnam'. We
are bogged down in a war we cannot win and
cannot abandon".
- Soviet Army General, 1982
Javier González
> > On 9/28/2010 10:04 AM, Javier González wrote:
>
> > For Rush, with the rabid "Rush as a religious experience" fans, is a
> > "once in a lifetime, will never be repeated" show. People have waited
> > decades for this. The producers know this and gouged us nicely - I
> > paid close to USD200 for a lawn (no seat) ticket, and that's because I
> > used a 20% discount because my cell phone provider sponsors the event.
> > All in all, I'm super happy, I was ready to pay five hundred, easily.
>
> They'll gouge you on the souvenir t-shirts too. Rush didn't have
> anything on sale for less than $35.
Yeah, I don't think I'm hitting the souvenirs after the show :)
> Heck, i only paid $35 for my lawn ticket, and it had a great view, LOL.
One of the downsides of living around here is expensive and rare
concerts. Damn!
Raja, The Great
>
> For Rush, with the rabid "Rush as a religious experience" fans, is a
> "once in a lifetime, will never be repeated" show.
I am a Rush fan, but their live shows are not much fun. They pretty
much play the song note to note. They used to improvise back in the
70s... check out the All The World's A Stage album. Pink Floyd also
became a note to note repeating band in the 80s and 90s... Their Pulse
album really SUCKS and I am a big Pink Floyd fan.
Many of these 70s greats sold out in the 80s. In a way it was good Led
Zeppelin broke up in 1980 (though very bad that Bonham died). At least
we didnt get to see the sell out phase of Led Zeppelin. Their
legendary status is still intact.
I did enjoy the Yes show in House Of Blues (even without Rick Wakeman
and Jon Anderson). Those guys especially Chris Squire and Steve Howe
really improvise in their shows. It would have been awesome to see
them live in the early 70s... especially with Bill Bruford who in my
opinion is the GREATEST ROCK DRUMMER ever along with John Bonham and
Neil Peart.
Javier González
> On Sep 28, 10:04 am, Javier González <jagon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > For Rush, with the rabid "Rush as a religious experience" fans, is a
> > "once in a lifetime, will never be repeated" show.
>
> I am a Rush fan, but their live shows are not much fun.
Did you see the DVD "Rush in Rio"? Go check out some clips in Youtube.
That's how "not fun" it is going to be in Chile.
GOYLE
Pink Floyd. The only good album by them was Off The Wall.
Raja, The Great
LOL...they never released any album titled Off The Wall. I recommend
you try listen to The Dark Side Of the Moon, Meddle and The Piper At
The Gates of Dawn in that order. The last one might be difficult for
you to get.
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<zepf...@gmail.com>wrote:
>On Sep 28, 9:42 am, stephenj <sjar...@cox.com> wrote:
>> > On 9/27/2010 10:22 AM, Javier González wrote:
>>
>> > On Sep 27, 10:24 am, stephenj<sjar...@cox.com> wrote:
>> >> Yes, excellent show. They played enough of the commercial stuff to keep
>> >> it interesting.
>>
>> > Man, I'm stoked up as hell for this. It's 20 days for the Santiago
>> > show, and I've been waiting for it the best part of 20 years. Look up
>> > in youtube some videos from Rush In Rio, that's how it's going to roll
>> > in Santiago - wild crowd, I'm guessing around 40k people.
>>
>> This doesn't applly to Rush, but more generally, for some reason,
>> one0time big-name rock bands seem to remain popular down in South
>> America long after their US salad days are gone. Bands like Judas Priest
>> that were big 25 years ago but play clubs in the USA today still draw
>> 20,000 down there. It's bewildering.
>
>Thats because S. America still has good taste in music.
IAWTP
GOYLE
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OK, I got ya. They produced THE WALL, close enough to OFF THE WALL,
but, I doubt you ever heard of it.
Raja, The Great
Just about a million times. The wall is good but musically a lot
weaker than those albums
TT
No doubt, it was indeed Off the Wall that launched Jacko's solo career.
Whisper
No offense but those bands have always been crap.
Whisper
AC/DC yes, the rest are overrated mediocrities.
Raja, The Great
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Just shut up, idiot.
TT
You're talking with someone who scolds mediocrity and goes to Lady Gaga
concerts.
stephenj
screaming for vengeance is a great record. but that's about it for JP.
--
the one great principle of the Law is to make business for itself.
viewed in this light, it becomes a coherent scheme, and not the
monstrous maze the laity are apt to think it. Let them but once
but clearly perceive that its one grand principle is to make
business for itself at their expense, and surely they will
cease to grumble.
- Dickens, "Bleak House"
stephenj
> Many of these 70s greats sold out in the 80s.
Yes, but Rush sold out differently. Bands like Yes were originally
prog-rock, and became pop-rock. Rush went from being a HEAVY band,
arguably a metal band, with a hint of prog, to being a prog-pop band.
They never got away from prog, they just lightened it up considerably.
To get to a pop, radio-friendly sound, they gave up a lot more metal
than they did prog.
> In a way it was good Led
> Zeppelin broke up in 1980 (though very bad that Bonham died). At least
> we didnt get to see the sell out phase of Led Zeppelin. Their
> legendary status is still intact.
Zep was always a commercial pop band. That's why they sold 10x more
records than bands like Yes and King Crimson.
> especially with Bill Bruford who in my
> opinion is the GREATEST ROCK DRUMMER ever along with John Bonham and
> Neil Peart.
amongst the prog-rock drummers, carl palmer would arguably surpass buford:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn9fkAGwJcM
--
As a tourist, you become economically significant but
existentially loathsome, an insect on a dead thing.
- D. Foster Wallace
Raja, The Great
> > On 9/28/2010 1:34 PM, Raja, The Great wrote:
>
> > Many of these 70s greats sold out in the 80s.
>
> Yes, but Rush sold out differently. Bands like Yes were originally
> prog-rock, and became pop-rock. Rush went from being a HEAVY band,
> arguably a metal band, with a hint of prog, to being a prog-pop band.
> They never got away from prog, they just lightened it up considerably.
> To get to a pop, radio-friendly sound, they gave up a lot more metal
> than they did prog.
Okay point taken.
>
> > In a way it was good Led
> > Zeppelin broke up in 1980 (though very bad that Bonham died). At least
> > we didnt get to see the sell out phase of Led Zeppelin. Their
> > legendary status is still intact.
>
> Zep was always a commercial pop band.
BWAAAAHAAHAHHA,. Zeppelin and pop? They were one of the most anti-
commercial band of the 70s... Hardly gave interviews.. almost never
appear on TV, hardly any videos... hardly any 3 minute straightforward
songs.
>That's why they sold 10x more
No they sold more because they wrote songs which were great to dance
to. They were a groovy band... You can't dance to Black Sabbath's
music but you can dance to Led Zeppelin.
> records than bands like Yes and King Crimson.
Do you realize Yes were more influenced by Beatles than Zep and more
on the pop side. And that Yes' music is more in common with Zeppelin
than those weirdos King Crimson. I bet you never have really heard Yes
or Zeppelin or King Crimson properly.
>
> > especially with Bill Bruford who in my
> > opinion is the GREATEST ROCK DRUMMER ever along with John Bonham and
> > Neil Peart.
>
> amongst the prog-rock drummers, carl palmer would arguably surpass buford:
Its "Bruford", you shallow fool. Carl Palmer was very good. But noway
was he better than BruGOD. Have you heard King Crimson's Red yet?
tom_sa...@yahoo.com
> I am a Rush fan, but their live shows are not much fun. They pretty
> much play the song note to note. They used to improvise back in the
> 70s... check out the All The World's A Stage album.
I actually like the note-for-note style and the reasons are that a)
with a musical interest, I like to see how they play something and
what instruments they use, b) I like to relax at concerts and hear
what I know ... I don't want Tom Sawyer played with a huge improv
where I have to dissect what is going on or struggle to hear something
new in a cyclone of acoustical nuances and venue/crowd noise ... if I
want unknown music, I'll go see a local band and not one that I'm
paying $50+ a ticket, plus parking, plus extras, and c) I like to see
that what I'm hearing is being at least triggered by the band ... I
remember reading that at one time, Rush was going to use other
musicians to help with recreating their studio sound but decided to
learn, sample and trigger their own concert sound rather than have
others involved. I guess that I'd also throw in a d) which is that
Neil has said/written that one of his challenges to his craft is to
design a part that remains challenging to play regardless of how many
times they have played a particular song. Given tha each time a piece
is played in person, it will be somewhat unique, I like that they tend
to create songs that are a challenge over time.
I understand that some like improv music and sometimes I like it too,
but with regard to Rush, I like their structure. It's the way they're
designed. If I want to hear improve music or "something different,"
then I'll go to a local place or listen to a Grateful Dead-type of
band.
Raja, The Great
wrote:
Well, I think it should be a combination of both. Then it is more fun.
Led Zeppelin would play some songs at blistering pace and others with
more deliberation and some others they turned into a medley. Also
sometimes Jimmy Page will play some classical sounding guitar and John
Paul Jones will incorporate something from a classical composer. The
best thing about a Zeppelin show (I have heard several great sounding
bootlegs) was the degree of unpreditability of their performances.
Grateful Dead always played long jams... they were predictable... not
Zeppelin.
stephenj
> On Oct 1, 4:21 pm, stephenj<sjar...@cox.com> wrote:
>> > On 9/28/2010 1:34 PM, Raja, The Great wrote:
>>
>>> Many of these 70s greats sold out in the 80s.
>>
>> Yes, but Rush sold out differently. Bands like Yes were originally
>> prog-rock, and became pop-rock. Rush went from being a HEAVY band,
>> arguably a metal band, with a hint of prog, to being a prog-pop band.
>> They never got away from prog, they just lightened it up considerably.
>> To get to a pop, radio-friendly sound, they gave up a lot more metal
>> than they did prog.
>
> Okay point taken.
>>
>>> In a way it was good Led
>>> Zeppelin broke up in 1980 (though very bad that Bonham died). At least
>>> we didnt get to see the sell out phase of Led Zeppelin. Their
>>> legendary status is still intact.
>>
>> Zep was always a commercial pop band.
>
> BWAAAAHAAHAHHA,. Zeppelin and pop? They were one of the most anti-
> commercial band of the 70s...
Sure they were - good grief.
> Hardly gave interviews.. almost never
> appear on TV, hardly any videos.
None of that makes them any less pop or commercial. Robert Plant
described Zep as a pop band back then, and no one disagreed with him.
>.. hardly any 3 minute straightforward
> songs.
They had loads of radio-friendly songs in the 4-5 minute range, which
was perfect for AOR, a format that doesn't exist today.
>> That's why they sold 10x more
>
> No they sold more because they wrote songs which were great to dance
> to. They were a groovy band... You can't dance to Black Sabbath's
> music but you can dance to Led Zeppelin.
The only 'dancing' i've ever seen to zep is slow dancing to stairway to
heaven. they were a great commercial rock band, probably the greatest.
>> records than bands like Yes and King Crimson.
>
> Do you realize Yes were more influenced by Beatles than Zep and more
> on the pop side.
why would Yes be influenced by Zep when they were contemporaries? You
have to remember that i was alive and listening to rock in the 70s while
you know this era strictly from books?
> And that Yes' music is more in common with Zeppelin
> than those weirdos King Crimson. I bet you never have really heard Yes
> or Zeppelin or King Crimson properly.
I bet i listened to every zep album and almost all the KC albums before
you were born.
>>> especially with Bill Bruford who in my
>>> opinion is the GREATEST ROCK DRUMMER ever along with John Bonham and
>>> Neil Peart.
>>
>> amongst the prog-rock drummers, carl palmer would arguably surpass buford:
>
> Its "Bruford", you shallow fool. Carl Palmer was very good. But noway
> was he better than BruGOD.
watch the video, it will demonstrate carl's superiority.
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