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Rafa receiving ATP year end rank 1 and STEPHAN EDBERG SPORTSMANSHIP awards

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TT

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Nov 23, 2010, 4:47:38 PM11/23/10
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FydfQZNcLd8

That's it. Rafa is now officially a saint, so don't talk ill of him,
fedfuckers.

--
"I am no more a witch than you are a wizard, and if you take away my
life God will give you blood to drink"
-Sarah Good, 1692

RzR

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Nov 23, 2010, 5:23:11 PM11/23/10
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?TT wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FydfQZNcLd8
>
> That's it. Rafa is now officially a saint,

he is annoying and a cheat...all that saints stand for right?

LOLZ

Giovanna

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Nov 23, 2010, 7:16:48 PM11/23/10
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> That's it. Rafa is now officially a saint, so don't talk ill of him,
> fedfuckers.

St. Rafa "They told me to serve wide and that's where I served" Nadal~~

Pedro Dias

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Nov 23, 2010, 8:56:06 PM11/23/10
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On Nov 23, 4:47 pm, TT <do...@email.me> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FydfQZNcLd8
>
> That's it. Rafa is now officially a saint, so don't talk ill of him,
> fedfuckers.

Year-end no.1, fair enough. The Edberg Award must be some kind of sick
prank: even if his delays are not deliberate, they still *exist*, and
they're breaches of the rules.

RzR

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Nov 23, 2010, 8:58:04 PM11/23/10
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just like when they let karlovic record his gangsta rap single, the players
must have thought, lets vote nadal for shits and giggles...the guy is a
complete joke out on the court with his gesturing and cheating

Pedro Dias

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Nov 23, 2010, 9:01:59 PM11/23/10
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The gesturing I may not like, but it's become too much a part of the
game to complain about. The delays... to my mind, you don't cheat
unless you break the rules deliberately in order to gain an advantage,
and I'm inclined to think Nadal does not, he's just mildly OCD. Still,
the rules are the rules, and if you break them repeatedly you don't
get the Edberg, period.

felangey

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Nov 23, 2010, 9:42:17 PM11/23/10
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>The gesturing I may not like, but it's become too much a part of the
game to complain about<

How about having a mid-match chat with your uncle in the stands about the
best tactics going forward?

He obviously gains advantage from most of his tactics...and they have been
pointed out to him numerous times by umpires....yet he persists...that makes
him guilty of cheating imo....regardless of whether the tour has the balls
to enforce it or not. Anyway...

>and I'm inclined to think Nadal does not, he's just mildly OCD. Still,
the rules are the rules, and if you break them repeatedly you don't
get the Edberg, period.<

You are now a fully fledged 'Nadal-hater'...ask Sakari! ;)

...but yeah, it's a nonsense and makes a bit of a mockery. If it was players
'player of the year', I would have no argument.

Fan

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Nov 24, 2010, 5:16:26 AM11/24/10
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On Nov 23, 10:47 pm, TT <do...@email.me> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FydfQZNcLd8
>
> That's it. Rafa is now officially a saint, so don't talk ill of him,
> fedfuckers.
>
Horrible injustice! It is enough to make Freddy break out in tears and
get so much slop on the courts to declare a rain delay.

They should show more consideration to all those insane Federer fans
who whose life these awards make even more mistakable than it is.

TT

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Nov 24, 2010, 7:40:28 AM11/24/10
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On 24.11.2010 3:56, Pedro Dias wrote:
> On Nov 23, 4:47 pm, TT<do...@email.me> wrote:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FydfQZNcLd8
>>
>> That's it. Rafa is now officially a saint, so don't talk ill of him,
>> fedfuckers.
>
> Year-end no.1, fair enough. The Edberg Award must be some kind of sick
> prank:

That's what I thought when fed won those. Yet you told me he has to be a
saint because he got these awards.

I take it that fed didn't deserve his either.

TT

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Nov 24, 2010, 7:40:47 AM11/24/10
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aka you were wrong, again.

Vari L. Cinicke

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Nov 24, 2010, 10:40:07 AM11/24/10
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I figure that now that Nadal has this award, he will straighten out, no?

That is what I figured Federer and the other players decided. ;)

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Cheers,

vc

Iceberg

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Nov 24, 2010, 10:50:45 AM11/24/10
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yes you do if you're Fed, you can smash rackets to pieces, hurl
waterbottles, abuse ball kids, corrupt millions by saying the F-word
in front of innocent vulnerable children and still win the thing!

Iceberg

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Nov 24, 2010, 10:53:42 AM11/24/10
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they did set up that website where they could all vote thousands of
times each, Sakari, felangry, RzR etc probably all broke their left-
mouse buttons, Fan Awards or something.

GOYLE

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Nov 24, 2010, 10:59:20 AM11/24/10
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How many times did you vote for Federer?

felangey

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Nov 24, 2010, 11:21:25 AM11/24/10
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> That is what I figured Federer and the other players decided. ;)

Ahhhh....I never thought of it like that! ;)

TT

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Nov 24, 2010, 12:28:22 PM11/24/10
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...Cry after losing, being total ass at interviews etc.

Anyway. Rafa beat Fed on his first nomination. Players prefer Nadal to
Federer, fedfans just have to deal with it.

Patrick Kehoe

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Nov 24, 2010, 12:46:04 PM11/24/10
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...BUT... in a nice way...

:)))))))))))))

P

Patrick Kehoe

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Nov 24, 2010, 12:48:03 PM11/24/10
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Rafa was never nominated before??? Are you serious... can't be... that
would mean --

P

TT

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Nov 24, 2010, 1:08:59 PM11/24/10
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It would mean that fed's awards are asterisked. Rafa could have have won
all the time if he were just nominated.

Nominations are done by some shady group on whose members atp doesn't
want to give information on. neither do they give info on the criteria
who are nominated. Nor do they reveal votes distribution or even which
players are eligible to vote.

This much was revealed when some pissed off rafatard approached atp
asking about nominations and voting process previously.
Only thing we do know is the winner and nominees.

Patrick Kehoe

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Nov 24, 2010, 1:11:20 PM11/24/10
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> -Sarah Good, 1692- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

So, Rafa was never even nominated before? Really? Goodness... didn't
know that...

P

Patrick Kehoe

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Nov 24, 2010, 1:12:39 PM11/24/10
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> -Sarah Good, 1692- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

Of course this 'shady group' voted/gave the award to Rafa this year...
so...

P

TT

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Nov 24, 2010, 1:24:08 PM11/24/10
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Appears ATP as an organization is not entirely unbiased...

TT

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Nov 24, 2010, 1:30:08 PM11/24/10
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Uncle Toni finally wanted to reward his nephew, that's my explanation.

Pedro Dias

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Nov 24, 2010, 3:13:17 PM11/24/10
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No. I told you he won those awards because they deserved them - and I
told you that was the kind of guy I thought he was before he won them.
You, on the other hand, would have a bit of trouble following that
path with Nadal.

AKA you wouldn't know "right" if it bit you. Not sure you've ever
experienced it.

Pedro Dias

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Nov 24, 2010, 3:15:55 PM11/24/10
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To take the subject more seriously than it deserves, my best guess is
that the bias is towards the year-end number one. I just wouldn't have
guessed it would be enough to counterbalance something many players
have complained about on the record.

Vari L. Cinicke

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Nov 24, 2010, 3:32:59 PM11/24/10
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You think any Spanish speaking player votes aginst Nadal?

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Cheers,

vc

Pedro Dias

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Nov 24, 2010, 3:41:45 PM11/24/10
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Still, that's only 47% of Tour membership!

;-P

Vari L. Cinicke

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Nov 24, 2010, 3:42:36 PM11/24/10
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Add a few Andy Murray types and there you have it. The mystery is explained!

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Cheers,

vc

GOYLE

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Nov 24, 2010, 4:50:12 PM11/24/10
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> vc- Hide quoted text -

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I think they would vote their conscious.

TT

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Nov 24, 2010, 6:28:14 PM11/24/10
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On 24.11.2010 22:13, Pedro Dias wrote:
> On Nov 24, 7:40 am, TT<do...@email.me> wrote:
>> On 24.11.2010 3:56, Pedro Dias wrote:
>>
>>> On Nov 23, 4:47 pm, TT<do...@email.me> wrote:
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FydfQZNcLd8
>>
>>>> That's it. Rafa is now officially a saint, so don't talk ill of him,
>>>> fedfuckers.
>>
>>> Year-end no.1, fair enough. The Edberg Award must be some kind of sick
>>> prank:
>>
>> That's what I thought when fed won those. Yet you told me he has to be a
>> saint because he got these awards.
>>
>> I take it that fed didn't deserve his either.
>
> No. I told you he won those awards because they deserved them - and I
> told you that was the kind of guy I thought he was before he won them.

No, you said he can't possibly be an asshole BECAUSE he won SE award...

> You, on the other hand, would have a bit of trouble following that
> path with Nadal.
>
> AKA you wouldn't know "right" if it bit you. Not sure you've ever
> experienced it.


Fedfuckers seem rather upset about this. lol :)

Ted S.

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Nov 24, 2010, 8:36:50 PM11/24/10
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:50:12 -0800 (PST), GOYLE wrote:

> I think they would vote their conscious.

As opposed to voting their unconscious? :-p

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Ted Schuerzinger
tedstennis at myrealbox dot com
If you're afraid of the ball, don't sit in the front row. --Anastasia
Rodionova

Patrick Kehoe

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Nov 24, 2010, 10:58:56 PM11/24/10
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On Nov 24, 5:36 pm, "Ted S." <tedsten...@myrealbox.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:50:12 -0800 (PST), GOYLE wrote:
> > I think they would vote their conscious.
>
> As opposed to voting their unconscious?  :-p


Percisely...

P

Ali Asoag

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Nov 25, 2010, 12:57:01 PM11/25/10
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I (Ali Asoag) would have won if I had been nominated!

LOL, TT, go die. Your boy hadn't even been nominated all the years. How
embarrassing! It needed Fed to be all down the hill for Rafa to get that
price like Rafa needed Fed to be past peak to win Wimby and HC slams. LOL.

Pedro Dias

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Nov 26, 2010, 1:32:01 AM11/26/10
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On Nov 24, 6:28 pm, TT <do...@email.me> wrote:
> On 24.11.2010 22:13, Pedro Dias wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 24, 7:40 am, TT<do...@email.me>  wrote:
> >> On 24.11.2010 3:56, Pedro Dias wrote:
>
> >>> On Nov 23, 4:47 pm, TT<do...@email.me>    wrote:
> >>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FydfQZNcLd8
>
> >>>> That's it. Rafa is now officially a saint, so don't talk ill of him,
> >>>> fedfuckers.
>
> >>> Year-end no.1, fair enough. The Edberg Award must be some kind of sick
> >>> prank:
>
> >> That's what I thought when fed won those. Yet you told me he has to be a
> >> saint because he got these awards.
>
> >> I take it that fed didn't deserve his either.
>
> > No. I told you he won those awards because they deserved them - and I
> > told you that was the kind of guy I thought he was before he won them.
>
> No, you said he can't possibly be an asshole BECAUSE he won SE award...


I may have said that it shows players disagree with you in their
estimation of his character, I suppose, since your insinuations about
Federer are entirely about him being a "jerk" - understandably, since
he plays scrupulously within the rules. That is not the same thing as
saying the *award* proves it. I also think Nadal winning it probably
means the players think he's a nice guy - for the record, I think so
too.

But the issue with Nadal is completely different: the fact that
players may like him has no bearing on whether or not he follows the
rules - he doesn't.


> > You, on the other hand, would have a bit of trouble following that
> > path with Nadal.
>
> > AKA you wouldn't know "right" if it bit you. Not sure you've ever
> > experienced it.
>
> Fedfuckers seem rather upset about this. lol :)

You'd need to ask them. Myself, I find your snide little sniping much
more annoying then the award.

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