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Court_1

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Jun 8, 2011, 5:10:43 AM6/8/11
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Did you guys see this article by Lynn Barber that was in the Sunday
Times about Nadal and the PR machine that is at work for sports stars
such as Nadal? The article seems trashy but it is an interesting read.
Whisper and Iceberg were joking with me earlier about Nadal gay
rumors. Funny that after I said that I did not think Nadal was gay, I
saw this recent article on Twitter today.

Rubbish I am sure, but a fun read:

http://www.nadalnews.com/2011/06/05/anyone-for-tension/

Iceberg

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Jun 8, 2011, 5:54:24 AM6/8/11
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didn't you get my quote, whereby you admitted you had thought about
him being gay? :)

GOYLE

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Jun 8, 2011, 7:47:49 AM6/8/11
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Iceberg, I seriously doubt Nadal is gay. I also seriously doubt
Federer is gay though many people might think Federer is because he is
a very meterosexual kind of guy with his monogrammed clothes and
perfect hair etc. However, if I were to pick between Nadal, Federer,
and Novak I would say it is Novak. Of these 3 guys Novak is the most
flamboyant (sp) of the 3 and the DRAMA he brings to the tour.

Quincy

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Jun 8, 2011, 7:52:31 AM6/8/11
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Why has DRAMA anything to do with gay? McEnroe was the Drama Queen #1
and the least gay tennis player ever (Besides Boris, another DRAMA
queen)

Thomas R. Kettler

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Jun 8, 2011, 9:10:03 AM6/8/11
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In article
<9bed1773-c963-465e...@gv8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:

Agassi deserves consideration for the Drama Queen award also. In any
event, three of the biggest roues ever on the tour were bigtime Drama
Queens.
--
Remove blown from email address to reply.

uly...@mscomm.com

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Jun 8, 2011, 10:28:38 AM6/8/11
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Wow, now THAT was an interesting read. Thanks for posting that, Court.
I can't believe this fascinating stuff gets 5 responses and the most
mindless inanity drags on for 30 pages in a thread.

"The sheer boredom of living on this treadmill without even the
consolation of a regular sex life must wear anyone down."

Hilarious!

Yeah, the woman writing the article definitely suggests Rafa is
heavily closeted. I don't believe it, though I think Xisca is a beard
of sorts, but not to disguise Rafa's gayness. I think both Federer and
Nadal don't have high sex drives and both live the world of
professional athletes, where being uncontrolably horny is expected by
the public and endorsement people.

I think Rafa is completey immersed in his tennis and though he'll
cheat on Xisca whenever he feels like it, it's just not a priority.
His complete dissing of her is unreal: "She has her life and I have
mine..." unusually disrespectful. Fed would never have made such a
dismissive remark about Mirka. But Roger always truly loved Mirka,
Rafa just has Xisca for PR purposes, that's always been glaringly
apparent. Unlike Vitas, Wilander or Safin, sex is not the priority for
Rafa, tennis/training/improving is. Similar to Lendl, though Samantha
was always with Lendl and travelled with him everywhere.

Djoker gay? You gotta be kidding. It's well known he's the biggest
womanizer (after Verdasco), of the top players. He'll nail a 50 year
old washer woman if no other female is around.

Javier González

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Jun 8, 2011, 11:16:58 AM6/8/11
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On Jun 8, 10:28 am, "ulys...@msomm.com" <ulys...@mscomm.com> wrote:
> Wow, now THAT was an interesting read. Thanks for posting that, Court.
> I can't believe this fascinating stuff gets 5 responses and the most
> mindless inanity drags on for 30 pages in a thread.
>
> "The sheer boredom of living on this treadmill without even the
> consolation of a regular sex life must wear anyone down."
>
> Hilarious!
>
> Yeah, the woman writing the article definitely suggests Rafa is
> heavily closeted. I don't believe it, though I think Xisca is a beard
> of sorts, but not to disguise Rafa's gayness. I think both Federer and
> Nadal don't have high sex drives and both live the world of
> professional athletes, where being uncontrolably horny is expected by
> the public and endorsement people.
>
> I think Rafa is completey immersed in his tennis and though he'll
> cheat on Xisca whenever he feels like it, it's just not a priority.
> His complete dissing of her is unreal: "She has her life and I have
> mine..." unusually disrespectful. Fed would never have made such a
> dismissive remark about Mirka. But Roger always truly loved Mirka,
> Rafa just has Xisca for PR purposes, that's always been glaringly
> apparent. Unlike Vitas, Wilander or Safin, sex is not the priority for
> Rafa, tennis/training/improving is. Similar to Lendl, though Samantha
> was always with Lendl and travelled with him everywhere.

I don't think that's disrespectful. It does, however, speak of a
distant and not so serious relationship.

I loved this bit:

"Nadal, for the first time in our interview, turns his full attention
on me, a laser stare, and for a second I can imagine what it must be
like to stand on the baseline waiting to receive his serve."

I don't know if he's closeted or not. In fact, I would say he comes
across as sexless - he is *tennis*. Lives it, eats it, breathes it.
Inhuman singlemindedness - which is the requirement for his inhuman
results. Federer appears more "normal" and truly caring for Mirka, but
that's just because it happened that his girlfriend also was his
minder, so he can have that at the same time he can keep his
ridiculous focus. I don't think he'd have the same quality of
relationship if she wasn't part of his working tennis entourage.

> Djoker gay? You gotta be kidding. It's well known he's the biggest
> womanizer (after Verdasco), of the top players. He'll nail a 50 year
> old washer woman if no other female is around.

Um, links?

TT

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Jun 8, 2011, 12:47:33 PM6/8/11
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WTF...Do you want him to release home movie or something...

TT

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Jun 8, 2011, 12:49:29 PM6/8/11
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It's total rubbish.

TT

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Jun 8, 2011, 12:52:09 PM6/8/11
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uly...@mscomm.com

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Jun 8, 2011, 1:14:47 PM6/8/11
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Yet again TT proves she's female. No man on earth posts endless
pictures of a male athlete or cares about his GF. It's just as
ridiculous as if Giovanna was pretending to a man.

Regarding Rafa: for what it's worth, women can invariably see when a
man is on the make or on the prowl. Or if they're the promiscuous
type. It's not rocket science.

I've been going to Indian Wells and the LA summer tournament every
year since 1986 and have seen all these pros up close and watched them
carefully. Rafa is not your stereotypical "Latin" guy where they ogle
every babe and nail any groupie. He's very closed in, very
uncomfortable around fans (though invariably polite), and just wants
to left alone. I've seen him there for the past 4 years and plenty of
hot babes were throwing themselves at him and he was totally not into
it. Ditto with Fed, Agassi and Sampras. None of those guys even make
eye contact with the ho's hanging around. Contrast that with those who
want to notch anything on their belt and give out all those signals in
words and body language: Djoker, Isner (totally gross dog), Youzhny,
Simon (very handsome), Robredo, etc.

For this reason and countless anecdotal evidence from others, it seems
Rafa is tennis-obsessed and that's his complete and unending focus. He
could screw any woman he wanted to but from everything you read and/or
see about him, he's just not into it. He's also not into Xisca, since
this is a part-time relationship with obviously little depth. You
watch Fed interviews from 2001 and he's already glowing about Mirka
and openly saying he loved her very much, she centered him, she was
his life.

The worst player I ever saw with women was Wilander, who was crude and
had about as much game with women as a centipede, but it didn't matter
because he was a big deal in the mid-80's. Becker was much better and
had quite a nuanced chat up line. Marat was so charming that women
would want to nail him even if he looked like Quasimodo, which was
hardly the case. Tsonga likes to have a good time, had women all over
him.

TT

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Jun 8, 2011, 1:30:22 PM6/8/11
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8.6.2011 20:14, uly...@msomm.com kirjoitti:
> Yet again TT proves she's female. No man on earth posts endless
> pictures of a male athlete or cares about his GF. It's just as
> ridiculous as if Giovanna was pretending to a man.

Right. I guess you've been spending to much time with fat guys with
"flaccid penises"...

Who cares...
Are you some sort of groupie or what?

Javier González

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Jun 8, 2011, 1:36:29 PM6/8/11
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It's not a dig, mind you. It just seems to me like he's above such
insignificant stuff as "sex" - "shhhhh, I'm producing world class
tennis here, some of the best the world has ever seen".

TT

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Jun 8, 2011, 1:40:41 PM6/8/11
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drew

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Jun 8, 2011, 2:56:39 PM6/8/11
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On Jun 8, 7:47 am, GOYLE <jameshollowa...@aol.com> wrote:

> Iceberg, I seriously doubt Nadal is gay. I also seriously doubt
> Federer is gay though many people might think Federer is because he is
> a very meterosexual kind of guy with his monogrammed clothes and
> perfect hair etc. However, if I were to pick between Nadal, Federer,
> and Novak I would say it is Novak. Of these 3 guys Novak is the most
> flamboyant (sp) of the 3 and the DRAMA he brings to the tour.


Djokovic is a horndog for women.

Nadal is a sports machine. Even if he had the time for a girlfriend,
he'd probably rather
hang with his male friends. He's sexless. Like a lot of guys I've
known in the past who were
into sports 100%. They had no time for anything else and certainly
not interested in anything
that meant they'd have to consider somebody else before making plans
to play a ball game or go
hunting or fishing.

A lot of these guys are so inept around women that it makes me laugh.
Pity the girls who think they
have made a big score when they land one of these characters. Most of
them are a good 10 years away
from being at all attentive towards women. Quite a few never get
there at all. And that's OK. The big joke
is how fucking macho these guys are in the locker room and how that
macho posturing is ALL for their
male friends...these guys aren't fags but they sure as hell like the
company of men more than they like the company
of women.

Court_1

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Jun 8, 2011, 7:38:07 PM6/8/11
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Yes, and I replied to you that the only reason the thought crossed my
mind was due to the rumors on the internet and the fact that they
brought out a "secret" girlfriend but I really did not think he was
gay. Then a few hours later on Twitter I saw this article! Made me
think of all of the obsessed fanboys on here. Ha, ha. :)

Court_1

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Jun 8, 2011, 7:54:46 PM6/8/11
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On Jun 8, 10:28 am, "ulys...@msomm.com" <ulys...@mscomm.com> wrote:
>
>
> I think Rafa is completey immersed in his tennis and though he'll
> cheat on Xisca whenever he feels like it, it's just not a priority.
> His complete dissing of her is unreal: "She has her life and I have
> mine..." unusually disrespectful.

I think the "relationship" he has or does not have with Xisca is very
strange indeed.
The thing that has always made me a little suspicious is the interview
years back with Uncle Toni where he out of the blue brought up that
Rafa had a "secret" girlfriend. Why is it a secret? Just always makes
me think about how people said Michael Jackson had a secret girlfriend
and we know how straight he was!

Not so sure about the veracity of this article. It is probably rubbish
but I would be lying if I did not think there may be a kernel of truth
in it. There have always been rumors about him and Carlos Moya or one
of his Spanish flock like Fernando Lopez. All I am saying is, it would
not surprise me either way. Also, either way I don't care.

The best part of this article is the lengths the PR makers go to throw
an image of the sports star out there. This part I 100% believe and
that is why I never ever believe in the image of a sports star. I know
it is all rubbish. I mean look at Tiger Woods who they presented as an
innocent family man. There will be lots more scandals to come in the
future with various sports stars. Stay tuned! ;)

Court_1

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Jun 8, 2011, 7:58:08 PM6/8/11
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On Jun 8, 12:47 pm, TT <as...@usenet.org> wrote:
> WTF...Do you want him to release home movie or something...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

He does sort of release a home movie, by the beach pictures that are
taken of him and Xisca. That is as close to a home movie as you will
get. You think a lot of those pics are just random pap shots? You
don't think Nadal's PR team is involved in calling the paps? Yeah, ok,
do you believe in Santa Claus too? Hee, hee. ;)

Court_1

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Jun 8, 2011, 8:06:17 PM6/8/11
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On Jun 8, 1:14 pm, "ulys...@msomm.com" <ulys...@mscomm.com> wrote:
> Yet again TT proves she's female. No man on earth posts endless
> pictures of a male athlete or cares about his GF. It's just as
> ridiculous as if Giovanna was pretending to a man.
>
> Regarding Rafa: for what it's worth, women can invariably see when a
> man is on the make or on the prowl. Or if they're the promiscuous
> type. It's not rocket science.
>
> I've been going to Indian Wells and the LA summer tournament every
> year since 1986 and have seen all these pros up close and watched them
> carefully. Rafa is not your stereotypical "Latin" guy where they ogle
> every babe and nail any groupie. He's very closed in, very
> uncomfortable around fans (though invariably polite), and just wants
> to left alone. I've seen him there for the past 4 years and plenty of
> hot babes were throwing themselves at him and he was totally not into
> it. Ditto with Fed, Agassi and Sampras. None of those guys even make
> eye contact with the ho's hanging around. Contrast that with those who
> want to notch anything on their belt and give out all those signals in
> words and body language: Djoker, Isner (totally gross dog), Youzhny,
> Simon (very handsome), Robredo, etc.
>
> For this reason and countless anecdotal evidence from others, it seems
> Rafa is tennis-obsessed and that's his complete and unending focus. He
> could screw any woman he wanted to but from everything you read and/or
> see about him, he's just not into it. He's also not into Xisca

That is because he is gay or bisexual! ;)

Seriously though, there have been accounts on the tennis forums of
Nadal with female groupies. The descriptions were quite detailed!
Again, could all be BS. You can't take what you read on a forum as the
gospel.

Who knows what he likes or does not like. While I believe he is
totally focused on tennis, I don't believe that is sexless that is for
sure. He can get more action than anybody and I am sure somehow he
takes advantage of it.

Court_1

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Jun 8, 2011, 8:08:20 PM6/8/11
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On Jun 8, 1:40 pm, TT <as...@usenet.org> wrote:

> 8.6.2011 20:36, Javier Gonz lez kirjoitti:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 8, 12:47 pm, TT<as...@usenet.org>  wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3-GiVIE8gc&hd=1- Hide quoted text -

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> - Show quoted text -

LOL. He is cute in that video.

GOYLE

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Jun 8, 2011, 8:51:18 PM6/8/11
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> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3-GiVIE8gc&hd=1-Hide quoted text -

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> > - Show quoted text -
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> LOL. He is cute in that video.- Hide quoted text -

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dude shut the fuck up. I really don't care what u think about rafa.
Rafa is my boy and I enjoy watching him play. Your just making a fool
of itself.

bob

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Jun 8, 2011, 8:56:16 PM6/8/11
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mildly interesting article. seems to me to be a simple case of nadal
being a very serious person, not in a great mood, and being
interviewed by a fedfan.

bob

Court_1

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Jun 8, 2011, 9:02:55 PM6/8/11
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> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3-GiVIE8gc&hd=1-Hidequoted text -

>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > LOL. He is cute in that video.- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
>
> dude shut the fuck up. I really don't care what u think about rafa.
> Rafa is my boy and I enjoy watching him play. Your just making a fool
> of itself.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

What is your problem? Why so sensitive? Did the article about Rafa and
his possible gayness upset you? Poor baby. All kinds of negative and
derisive remarks are written on here about Federer daily. You don't
seem to get upset about that.

I just simply posted an article that was published in the Sunday Times
about Nadal. The Sunday Times is a reputable paper so shut the fuck up
and deal with it. It is not like I am posting something from the
National Enquirer.

Court_1

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Jun 8, 2011, 9:03:43 PM6/8/11
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On Jun 8, 8:56 pm, bob <stein...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 02:10:43 -0700 (PDT), Court_1
>
> <Olympia0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Did you guys see this article by Lynn Barber that was in the Sunday
> >Times about Nadal and the PR machine that is at work for sports stars
> >such as Nadal? The article seems trashy but it is an interesting read.
> >Whisper and Iceberg were joking with me earlier about Nadal gay
> >rumors. Funny that after I said that I did not think Nadal was gay, I
> >saw this recent article on Twitter today.
>
> >Rubbish I am sure, but a fun read:
>
> >http://www.nadalnews.com/2011/06/05/anyone-for-tension/
>
> and  being
> interviewed by a fedfan.
>
> bob

LOL!

bob

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On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 16:54:46 -0700 (PDT), Court_1
<Olymp...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Jun 8, 10:28 am, "ulys...@msomm.com" <ulys...@mscomm.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I think Rafa is completey immersed in his tennis and though he'll
>> cheat on Xisca whenever he feels like it, it's just not a priority.
>> His complete dissing of her is unreal: "She has her life and I have
>> mine..." unusually disrespectful.
>
>I think the "relationship" he has or does not have with Xisca is very
>strange indeed.

all it appears from teh interview is tha he's not head over heels in
love with teh girl and uses her for sex now and again when he can.
nothing 'homo' in there that i can see.


bob

Court_1

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On Jun 9, 12:53 pm, bob <stein...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 16:54:46 -0700 (PDT), Court_1
>

All I know is that the "relationship" seems very strange to me. The
fact that he never wants to talk about her is beyond odd and is an
affront to women. She seems like a very distant priority in his life
and perhaps he is a distant priority for her and they have an
arrangement, who knows. From an outsider looking in, it is extremely
strange and I have no idea if the article has any truth to it, but it
sure would explain a lot of things.

Bob, why would he have to have a girlfriend to use her for sex? He can
have sex with countless number of women. Why have a girlfriend
"publicly" at all if the state of the relationship is in reality very
far from the standard girlfriend/boyfriend? Why does he have to even
label her as his "girlfriend?" It just seems very forced and contrived
to me.

TT

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Jun 9, 2011, 8:11:13 PM6/9/11
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10.6.2011 2:59, Court_1 kirjoitti:
> On Jun 9, 12:53 pm, bob<stein...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 16:54:46 -0700 (PDT), Court_1
>>
>> <Olympia0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Jun 8, 10:28 am, "ulys...@msomm.com"<ulys...@mscomm.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> I think Rafa is completey immersed in his tennis and though he'll
>>>> cheat on Xisca whenever he feels like it, it's just not a priority.
>>>> His complete dissing of her is unreal: "She has her life and I have
>>>> mine..." unusually disrespectful.
>>
>>> I think the "relationship" he has or does not have with Xisca is very
>>> strange indeed.
>>
>> all it appears from teh interview is tha he's not head over heels in
>> love with teh girl and uses her for sex now and again when he can.
>> nothing 'homo' in there that i can see.
>>
>> bob
>
> All I know is that the "relationship" seems very strange to me. The
> fact that he never wants to talk about her is beyond odd and is an
> affront to women.

If you can not see affection, and attraction, between them in pics
you're blind...

> She seems like a very distant priority in his life
> and perhaps he is a distant priority for her and they have an
> arrangement, who knows.

Maybe, she does get around a lot though. And did you know Rafa calls her
EVERY day...

> From an outsider looking in, it is extremely
> strange and I have no idea if the article has any truth to it, but it
> sure would explain a lot of things.
>

Why do you even say this?

The writer knows NOTHING about Nadal and she interviewed Rafa during
massage when she was having a very bad day and attitude...as she
certainly tells herself.


> Bob, why would he have to have a girlfriend to use her for sex? He can
> have sex with countless number of women. Why have a girlfriend
> "publicly" at all if the state of the relationship is in reality very
> far from the standard girlfriend/boyfriend? Why does he have to even
> label her as his "girlfriend?" It just seems very forced and contrived
> to me.

That makes no sense. Of course it's not a standard relationship. Or
maybe it is, for a busy man.

Court_1

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Jun 9, 2011, 8:33:35 PM6/9/11
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> maybe it is, for a busy man.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

No offense TT, but you are coming at it from a very unobjective
stance. If this article was written about Federer, you would not even
blink an eye and you would be posting it on here like crazy and
saying, "See I told you Federer was gay." Admit that at least. Come
on.

How do YOU know the writer knows nothing about Nadal? Maybe she knows
more than all of us. You think she went into her interview with Nadal
without researching him? You think she does not have sources at her
disposal? What reason would she have to infer something that is not
true? This is not a gossip rag like The National Enquirer. I am not
saying that what she wrote is true, but, how do we know it is not?

Re being a busy guy. Nadal is busy but he is a tennis player not a
brain surgeon and frankly NO guy regardless of how busy he is is too
busy if he likes a woman sorry to tell you this. I know he obviously
must be focused on tennis, but the fact that he never talks about her
and she is always an afterthought in every interveiw is very strange.
Maybe it is an arrangement they are both happy with.

TT

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Jun 9, 2011, 9:01:40 PM6/9/11
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I admit it. :)

>
> How do YOU know the writer knows nothing about Nadal? Maybe she knows
> more than all of us. You think she went into her interview with Nadal
> without researching him? You think she does not have sources at her
> disposal? What reason would she have to infer something that is not
> true? This is not a gossip rag like The National Enquirer. I am not
> saying that what she wrote is true, but, how do we know it is not?

Well, she tells herself that the (a) article comes from one interview
where she definitely had the wrong attitude.

And btw she recently twatted something that confirmed her intention was
to make derogatory/controversial article in first place! (I don't
remember her exact wording=

>
> Re being a busy guy. Nadal is busy but he is a tennis player not a
> brain surgeon and frankly NO guy regardless of how busy he is is too
> busy if he likes a woman sorry to tell you this.

I can certainly live with it. No consequence whatsoever in my life...

Maybe you just don't know facts...Xisca graduated a while ago and has
been working, so I'm rather surprise she has even THIS much time to
travel with Rafa.


> I know he obviously
> must be focused on tennis, but the fact that he never talks about her

Why should he?

> and she is always an afterthought in every interveiw is very strange.
> Maybe it is an arrangement they are both happy with.

I have a feeling that it is some sort of arrangement, from Rafa's
interviews...aka Rafa's sister's friend who gives him a lot of
freedom...to advance his career.

But what I've seen from pics, I think Xisca has fallen head over heels
for him. The story will keep on unfolding in same low key manner I guess.

Court_1

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Jun 9, 2011, 9:18:58 PM6/9/11
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> for him. The story will keep on unfolding in same low key manner I guess.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

LMAO @ the "I admit it part!" Good for you! ;)

The only thing I saw the writer tweet was how the nutty Nadal fans
were tweeting her non-stop coming to the defense of their sweet
precious Rafael! Funny how so many strangers think they actually KNOW
Nadal. ;) Lots of nuts out there for sure.

I totally agree that Xisca has her own career and she absolutely
should no question, but the relationship still seems very contrived to
me.
I disagree with you that Xisca looks head over heels for him. I don't
even remotely get that impression from pics (which is all we have to
go by.)

In any case, I am with you in that it has no consequence whatsoever on
my life and whatever the truth is or is not, it does not mean anything
to me. The article was gutsy that much I can say for sure and credit
has to be given to the writer to not succumb to the pressure of the PR
machine which wants everybody to believe Nadal is this sweet country
bumpkin who likes to fish in Mallorca.

More than anything else the article shows how important the PR machine
is with respect to a world class athlete. I don't think Nadal can take
a dump without talking to IMG/Nike, etc first. :)


TT

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Jun 9, 2011, 9:53:38 PM6/9/11
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That's a funny way of saying that the writer was being
populist/controversial in order to get publicity.

And what I have read, from lots of people not in any way connected to
Nike...he actually is a genuine article.

TT

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Jun 9, 2011, 10:01:08 PM6/9/11
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Patrick Kehoe

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Jun 9, 2011, 11:22:30 PM6/9/11
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> a dump without talking to IMG/Nike, etc first. :)- Hide quoted text -

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Contrived... really??? Rafa's girlfriend seemed genuinely anxious
throughout the match and was 'lovingly' urging him on each time they
showed her... looked real/genuinely affectionate and protective...

Not sure what this is about???

P

Court_1

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Did you read the article by Lynn Barber?

Yes, Xisca may be the genuine "girlfriend" article who knows. Their
set up just seems odd even to the most ardent Nadal fans.

The one thing about the article I found interesting is that the writer
dared to question the ideal gushing Nadal image that is pushed upon us
daily by the gigantic PR machine that is IMG/Nike, etc.

Katya

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barbar...@internet.lu

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Jun 10, 2011, 6:02:31 PM6/10/11
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On Jun 8, 4:28 pm, "ulys...@msomm.com" <ulys...@mscomm.com> wrote:
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> << "The sheer boredom of living on this treadmill without even the
> consolation of a regular sex life must wear anyone down."
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> Hilarious! >>
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Agree totally on the hilarity of the Lynn Barber article - funniest
thing I've read in a long time - but how exactly would you know "both
Federer and Nadal don't have high sex drives"? Did they turn you
down? Yes? I guess that proves it then! :-D


uly...@mscomm.com

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Jun 10, 2011, 7:28:54 PM6/10/11
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Are you female? Then you would instinctively know this if you had a
sex drive above that of a 71 year nun. You apparently do not, since
you question the veracity of the statement.

You can't tell from the most casual observation that Fed and Nadal
have lesser sex drives than Verdasco, Tsonga, Vitas, Borg or Nastaste?
Come on, don't be quite that basic.

uly...@mscomm.com

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Jun 10, 2011, 7:34:04 PM6/10/11
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Court_1, as usual puts the finger on the pulse of the matter:

"All I know is that the "relationship" seems very strange to me. The
fact that he never wants to talk about her is beyond odd and is an

affront to women. She seems like a very distant priority in his life


and perhaps he is a distant priority for her and they have an

arrangement, who knows. From an outsider looking in, it is extremely
strange."

And anyone that doubts this has never been in a relationship of any
depth or any duration. The fact is, Rafa's "relationship" with Xisca
is not a real relationship. It's hysterical that people here can't see
through the facade. A real relationship is one like Samantha and Lendl
or Roger and Mirka: they travel together, they are very rarely
separated, they speak openly of one other and don't engage in
ridiculously contrived posed tabloid photos like Rafa and Xisca do,
while splashing in the Spanish surf.

Again, I don't believe for a second that Nadal is gay. I merely think
he has a low sex drive and being a Latin guy, this is the kiss of
death, so he compensates by having Xisca as his beard. Nothing wrong
with that, but he has to do what most would do in his position.

bob

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Jun 10, 2011, 8:06:29 PM6/10/11
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On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:59:52 -0700 (PDT), Court_1
<Olymp...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Jun 9, 12:53 pm, bob <stein...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 16:54:46 -0700 (PDT), Court_1
>>
>> <Olympia0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >On Jun 8, 10:28 am, "ulys...@msomm.com" <ulys...@mscomm.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> I think Rafa is completey immersed in his tennis and though he'll
>> >> cheat on Xisca whenever he feels like it, it's just not a priority.
>> >> His complete dissing of her is unreal: "She has her life and I have
>> >> mine..." unusually disrespectful.
>>
>> >I think the "relationship" he has or does not have with Xisca is very
>> >strange indeed.
>>
>> all it appears from teh interview is tha he's not head over heels in
>> love with teh girl and uses her for sex now and again when he can.
>> nothing 'homo' in there that i can see.
>>
>> bob
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>All I know is that the "relationship" seems very strange to me. The
>fact that he never wants to talk about her is beyond odd and is an
>affront to women. She seems like a very distant priority in his life
>and perhaps he is a distant priority for her and they have an
>arrangement, who knows.

yes, that's what i'm saying is likely. see, nadal might miss the real
love of his life if she thinks he's with Xisca permananetly or
whatnot.

> From an outsider looking in, it is extremely
>strange and I have no idea if the article has any truth to it, but it
>sure would explain a lot of things.
>Bob, why would he have to have a girlfriend to use her for sex? He can
>have sex with countless number of women. Why have a girlfriend
>"publicly" at all if the state of the relationship is in reality very
>far from the standard girlfriend/boyfriend? Why does he have to even
>label her as his "girlfriend?" It just seems very forced and contrived
>to me.

because she might be fairly convenient for his lifestyle, wheras
trynig a different girl on tour weekly might not be his style and be
just as hard or a distraction. just that he's not loving her like the
'real thing'...nothing homo about that IMO.

bob

bob

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Jun 10, 2011, 8:10:57 PM6/10/11
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she didn't 'question' it, she kept jabbing at a topic that he didn't
want to tlak about either for privacy reasons, respect to the girl, or
the fact that he knows damn well he's never going to marry her, either
way - the bitch kept jabbing at it. bad form.

bob

Court_1

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On Jun 10, 8:10 pm, bob <stein...@comcast.net> wrote:
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No, she definitely questioned the gigantic PR machine. She kept
mentioning that Nadal would pretend to not understand her question and
look to his PR team if the question veered too far into the "unknown
and verboten" territory.

She made her own impression from the interview and made her own
assumptons from it, whether they are true or not. I see nothing wrong
with the interview. The only fools in this scenario are Nadal's joke
of a PR team for letting this interview be published. Can't blame the
author. Nadal's PR team were not doing their job obviously. Also, if
the writer were a man and not a woman, would anybody really be making
such a fuss? I highly doubt it. We have a woman going into the
interview on her own terms and daring to ask her own questions whether
you agree with them or not. Some people have issues with that. I
don't.

Court_1

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On Jun 10, 7:34 pm, "ulys...@msomm.com" <ulys...@mscomm.com> wrote:
> Court_1, as usual puts the finger on the pulse of the matter:
>
don't engage in ridiculously contrived posed tabloid photos like Rafa
and Xisca do,
while splashing in the Spanish surf.

LOL, this made me laugh! This is the only time we ever really see
photos of them!

bob

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Jun 12, 2011, 6:32:42 PM6/12/11
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wtf? for all we know fed is doing it 3 times/night with his wife and
nadal is jerking off in changeovers. wtf do you know about their
personal lives. what a dumbo you are.

bob

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