The most analytical political group?

kaennorsing

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Mar 30, 2018, 4:53:31 PM3/30/18

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Libertarians measure as being the most analytical political group. Too bad politics and objective analysis don't go together.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-03-28/study-of-politics-and-analytical-thinking-puts-libertarians-on-top

jdeluise

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Mar 30, 2018, 5:03:00 PM3/30/18

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On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 13:53:29 -0700, kaennorsing wrote:

> Libertarians measure as being the most analytical political group. Too
> bad politics and objective analysis don't go together.

That's because libertarians ignore the human component and brush aside
the obvious flaws.

No political system is a silver bullet.

kaennorsing

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Mar 30, 2018, 5:43:59 PM3/30/18

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Op vrijdag 30 maart 2018 23:03:00 UTC+2 schreef jdeluise:

> On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 13:53:29 -0700, kaennorsing wrote:
>
> > Libertarians measure as being the most analytical political group. Too
> > bad politics and objective analysis don't go together.
>
> That's because libertarians ignore the human component and brush aside
> the obvious flaws.

Sounds like a knee-jerk reaction. Any group can make that argument about the other group. I would argue libertarians actually do take the human component into the occasion. Because they do that objectively (relative to other ideological groups) they (will eventually realize they) are libertarians. For example, most libertarians realize people act primarily in their self-interest, or what they believe to be in their best interest. Precisely because they accept that as a fact they understand it's best to minimize the concentration of power, aka government power. Maximum individual liberty, with a government merely to protect that individual liberty. It makes perfect sense (if you think about it objectively).

Look, if it makes you feel better, at least democrats came out in front of conservatives in terms of objective analysis.

> No political system is a silver bullet.

That's why it's best to minimize the politics in a system.

reilloc

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Mar 31, 2018, 12:40:06 AM3/31/18

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On 3/30/2018 4:43 PM, kaennorsing wrote:
> Op vrijdag 30 maart 2018 23:03:00 UTC+2 schreef jdeluise:
>> On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 13:53:29 -0700, kaennorsing wrote:
>>
>>> Libertarians measure as being the most analytical political group. Too
>>> bad politics and objective analysis don't go together.
>>
>> That's because libertarians ignore the human component and brush aside
>> the obvious flaws.
>
> Sounds like a knee-jerk reaction. Any group can make that argument about the other group. I would argue libertarians actually do take the human component into the occasion. Because they do that objectively (relative to other ideological groups) they (will eventually realize they) are libertarians. For example, most libertarians realize people act primarily in their self-interest, or what they believe to be in their best interest. Precisely because they accept that as a fact they understand it's best to minimize the concentration of power, aka government power. Maximum individual liberty, with a government merely to protect that individual liberty. It makes perfect sense (if you think about it objectively).

If libertarians realize that people act primarily in their self-interest
the minimization of power would seem to guarantee that only the most
powerful individuals would survive. If only the most powerful survive
there is neither a society nor maximum individual liberty since there
would be fewer individuals.

You big-brained analytical types need to work on your analytical skills.

LNC

kaennorsing

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Mar 31, 2018, 7:23:21 AM3/31/18

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Op zaterdag 31 maart 2018 06:40:06 UTC+2 schreef reilloc:

Your assumption that only the most powerful survive is flawed since in a free society, with minimal government, the only way people get rich is by serving others. And if the only way people can get money/power is by serving others in voluntarily exchange it is unlikely they end up alone. Your description works better in a socialist/communist/totalitarian type of system. In fact, that is what you see all around the world if you care to look.

reilloc

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Mar 31, 2018, 11:54:18 AM3/31/18

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That's one of the most irrationally idealistic things anybody'll ever
read here. It's so detached from any possible reality I can't even begin
to imagine what you're saying.

LNC

kaennorsing

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Apr 1, 2018, 4:16:07 PM4/1/18

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Op zaterdag 31 maart 2018 17:54:18 UTC+2 schreef reilloc:

It's pretty simple actually. Quite telling you can't wrap your head around it... Perhaps because it's stuck in the sand?

reilloc

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Apr 1, 2018, 5:26:30 PM4/1/18

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Serving others? Maybe because your English sucks donkey balls you aren't
saying it right. Do you mean, "selling shit to folks?" Is it "any old
shit," or "really good shit?" Where do you get this shit to sell? Do you
sell shit or trade for other shit? How do you find customers to whom to
sell or with whom to trade shit? Do you just start walking with your
shit and hope you meet somebody who needs shit? If you meet somebody who
wants your shit but isn't interested in buying or trading and he takes
your shit, is that just "tough shit?"

You know, every time you show up you tell the same fairy tale and then
slink off to put your finger back in the dyke. I hope she finds it more
entertaining that I do.

LNC

kaennorsing

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Apr 2, 2018, 5:08:43 PM4/2/18

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Op zondag 1 april 2018 23:26:30 UTC+2 schreef reilloc:

Don't let it get to you man. Breathe and relax.

reilloc

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Apr 2, 2018, 5:34:09 PM4/2/18

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That is the depth of your analysis.

LNC

The Iceberg

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Apr 2, 2018, 6:10:40 PM4/2/18

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The depth of your analysis is knowing that your parents always voted Demorat and so you voted Hillary! Lol