Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Nadal winning the Sportsmanship award...

2 views
Skip to first unread message

RahimAsif

unread,
Nov 26, 2010, 5:06:16 PM11/26/10
to
Well deserved. Rarely do we see a player as gracious in victory as in
defeat. Its very easy to show great sportsmanship when you are
winning, but the true test is after you lose - and in that regard
Nadal is peerless in tennis....

RzR

unread,
Nov 26, 2010, 5:15:37 PM11/26/10
to

it is very strange and bad that you said this

SliceAndDice

unread,
Nov 26, 2010, 5:16:29 PM11/26/10
to

But Nadal also engages in gamesmanship and brazenly breaks the rules
often, so is not a stellar example of sportsmanship. But I see your
point as well. Nadal is a bundle of contradictions, in many ways.

I find Djokovic a very gracious loser as well. And he loses a lot more
than Nadal :) So disagree with the peerless.

felangey

unread,
Nov 26, 2010, 5:25:50 PM11/26/10
to

"SliceAndDice" <vish...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7c953c8f-74a5-411c...@s16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...

On Nov 26, 5:06 pm, RahimAsif <rahima...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well deserved. Rarely do we see a player as gracious in victory as in
> defeat. Its very easy to show great sportsmanship when you are
> winning, but the true test is after you lose - and in that regard
> Nadal is peerless in tennis....

Ahhh yes...I remember those gravcious exits he made after losing big
matches....the FO to Soda tantrum he through as he left the court....the
gracious retirement a few games from the match against Murray, depriving him
of the joys of victory. He is class, class, class. Peerless loser.

Personally, I wish the award had gone to Murray. He is a stalwart of
fairplay. Applauds every good shot of his opponent. Never breaks any rules.
Serves on time. Doesn't get on-court coached. He used to get phoney medical
time outs like other nameless players....but he is well over that now.
Always finishes his matches these days. He's the man.

SliceAndDice

unread,
Nov 26, 2010, 5:28:31 PM11/26/10
to
On Nov 26, 5:25 pm, "felangey" <o...@cloudnine.com> wrote:
> "SliceAndDice" <visha...@gmail.com> wrote in message

Good point..Murray is a good example as well, these days. Fed can be a
sore loser, at times, and I suspect he lost a lot of votes this year
because of his post-loss interview at Wimbledon, but his on-court
behavior is generally impeccable.

RahimAsif

unread,
Nov 26, 2010, 5:28:48 PM11/26/10
to

Of course, Djokovic hardly wins these days (big tournaments, that is) so
he is used to losing. Ultimately, it comes down to Fed and Nadal, and
Fed as we all know, is not a good loser (not that there is anything
wrong with that, a lot of great athletes are bad losers)...

felangey

unread,
Nov 26, 2010, 5:34:09 PM11/26/10
to
> Fed as we all know, is not a good loser (not that there is anything wrong
> with that, a lot of great athletes are bad losers)...

...but when he does win....does he do that fairly? Within the rules of the
game?

Sakari Lund

unread,
Nov 26, 2010, 5:40:11 PM11/26/10
to
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 16:28:48 -0600, RahimAsif <Rahi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Of course, Djokovic hardly wins these days (big tournaments, that is) so
>he is used to losing. Ultimately, it comes down to Fed and Nadal, and
>Fed as we all know, is not a good loser (not that there is anything
>wrong with that, a lot of great athletes are bad losers)...

You are about 50 threads late. One thing we have discussed here is
that why the Sportsmanship Award should come down to Fed and Nadal?

My opinion is that both Fed and Nadal deserve it. In the big picture,
they are good guys and good ambassadors for tennis. Of course, rst
being rst, half the posters have shouted at me that Nadal doesn't
deserve it, and the other half that Fed doesn't deserve it.

I think they do, but the other question is that there are other guys
who would deserve it too. Why does the Sportsmanship Award go to #1
player? Even if he is a good guy, is he the best guy?

RahimAsif

unread,
Nov 26, 2010, 5:50:20 PM11/26/10
to
On 11/26/2010 4:40 PM, Sakari Lund wrote:
> You are about 50 threads late.

Guilty as charged - haven't followed much tennis for the last couple of
months...

> One thing we have discussed here is that why the Sportsmanship Award
> should come down to Fed and Nadal?

> My opinion is that both Fed and Nadal deserve it. In the big picture,
> they are good guys and good ambassadors for tennis. Of course, rst
> being rst, half the posters have shouted at me that Nadal doesn't
> deserve it, and the other half that Fed doesn't deserve it.
>
> I think they do, but the other question is that there are other guys
> who would deserve it too. Why does the Sportsmanship Award go to #1
> player? Even if he is a good guy, is he the best guy?

It doesn't have to - but they are the most prominent athletes in the
sport, and for the most part both are really good guys that are very
well respected in the locker room both for their tennis and character...

felangey

unread,
Nov 26, 2010, 5:51:16 PM11/26/10
to
>half the posters have shouted at me that Nadal doesn't
> deserve it<

Sakari, I would never shout at you. :)

Also, like I said, Nadal seems a great guy after the match/off the court. On
court, anything goes to secure the win....including every rule enfringement
he can repeatedly get away with. That is not the definition of sportsmanlike
conduct. I don't even see how it can be denied.

Sakari Lund

unread,
Nov 26, 2010, 5:54:54 PM11/26/10
to
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 16:50:20 -0600, RahimAsif <Rahi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Yes, I agree with that. But still, it seems that the one who is #1
gets the Sportsmanship Award too. Is he a better Sportsman too when he
is #1? Does he need more Awards in addition to what gets otherwise?

Inglourious Basterd

unread,
Nov 26, 2010, 7:19:06 PM11/26/10
to
On Nov 26, 10:54 pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 16:50:20 -0600, RahimAsif <RahimA...@gmail.com>

you make a good point, there are many other players who always compete
fairly who deserve the award, seems a bit weird to give it to the no 1
(who will have many other trophies). Of course the award itself is
named after a former no 1...

0 new messages