On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 7:40:13 PM UTC-4, undecided wrote:
> On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 7:35:41 PM UTC-4, RaspingDrive wrote:
> > On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 5:37:09 PM UTC-4, John Liang wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, July 18, 2017 at 2:04:24 AM UTC+10, The Iceberg wrote:
> > > > On Monday, 17 July 2017 01:05:27 UTC+1, RaspingDrive wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 5:15:49 PM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
> > > > > > Some Fedfans saying Fed was in amazing form etc I disagree cos he was hardly freakin pushed, he barely tried anything special servingwise in the final cos he didn't have to, also his movement was that remarkable, he upped it a bit at the end in the 3rd set, but only cos he wanted to finish it. A couple more matches and Nadal would've easily won against the level played today!
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> > > > > This Federer was sufficient to bag the record 8th W. If needed, however, Federer would've have raised his level to deal with Nadal. Like at the AO 2017.
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> > > > that is the real question, would Fed have been able to up his level against Nadal, not saying he couldn't but the level he played yday, Nadal would have beaten him.
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> > > And what was Nadal's level again, he couldn't even get pass Muller, Rosol, Kyrgios etc. Federer's level yesterday was good enough for him to win an 8th Wimbledon but Nadal's level of the last 6 Wimbledon couldn't pass a QF.
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> > There is a significant proportion of RST populace that think that a Nadal into second week, and even more so, in the final will be a pesky customer. The actual numbers don't show it though. According to empirical evidence, on non-clay surfaces it appears he is as likely to lose a final as he wins it. Since early 2008, he has appeared in 10 finals (W 2008, AO 2009, W 2010, USO 2010, W 2011, USO 2011, AO 2012, USO 2013, AO 2014, AO 2017) and won only five of them.
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> 50% final win rate on your not favourite surface is pretty darn good if you ask me.
it seems like the result of a (fair) coin toss.