Which decade was the best for music in general?
Raja, The Great
chart. These are the only artists who have 3 albums in top 600 and 5
albums in 2500. I looked at which decades these artists made their
most highly rated albums and assigned the artist to those decades. If
an artist released a retro archival album in a latter decade, I choose
the decade in which the album was recorded
1950s (7 solo artists - all jazz ---- ALL NEW)
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Miles Davis ---- NEW
John Coltrane ---- NEW
Charles Mingus ---- NEW
Duke Ellington ---- NEW
Thelonious Monk ---- NEW
Ella Fitzgerald ---- NEW
Bill Evans ---- NEW
1960s (24 artists, 7 jazz, 1 soul, 1 country, 15 rock ---- 17 NEW ALL
ROCK)
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Miles Davis
John Coltrane
Charles Mingus
Duke Ellington
Thelonious Monk
Ella Fitzgerald
Bill Evans
Bob Dylan ---- NEW
Neil Young --- NEW
Frank Zappa --- NEW
Otis Redding --- NEW
Townes Van Zandt --- NEW
Beatles --- NEW
Velvet Underground --- NEW
Jimi Hendrix Experience --- NEW
Rolling Stones --- NEW
Kinks --- NEW
Who --- NEW
Grateful Dead --- NEW
Allman Brothers Band --- NEW
King Crimson --- NEW
Pink Floyd --- NEW
Led Zeppelin --- NEW
Can --- NEW
1970s (29 artists, 2 jazz, 1 country, 26 rock ---- 9 NEW)
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Miles Davis
Charles Mingus
Bob Dylan
Neil Young
Frank Zappa
Tom Waits
David Bowie
Townes Van Zandt
Brian Eno
Bruce Springsteen
Bob Marley
Rolling Stones
Kinks
Who
Grateful Dead
Allman Brothers Band
King Crimson
Pink Floyd
Led Zeppelin
Can
Genesis ---- NEW
Ramones ---- NEW
Judas Priest ---- NEW
Talking Heads ---- NEW
Deep Purple ---- NEW
Black Sabbath --- NEW
Yes ----- NEW
Van Der Graaf Generator --- NEW
Kraftwerk --- NEW
1980s (10 artists, 9 rock, 1 electronic --- 3 NEW)
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Tom Waits
Frank Zappa
Brian Eno
King Crimson
Kraftwerk
Judas Priest
Talking Heads
Iron Maiden --- NEW
Metallica --- NEW
Sonic Youth --- NEW
1990s (8 artists, all rock ---- 1 NEW)
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Bob Dylan
Neil Young
Tom Waits
Bruce Springsteen
Judas Priest
Metallica
Sonic Youth
Radiohead ---- NEW
2000s (5 artists, 4 rock, 1 electronic ----- NO NEW)
--------
Tom Waits
Bruce Springsteen
Iron Maiden
Kraftwerk
Radiohead
So 2000s was the worst decade for music with no new artists emerging.
1990s were bad too -- only one new artist - Radiohead emerged. 1980
had three new artists emerging - Iron Maiden, Metallica and Sonic
Youth. 1960s and 1970 were best especially for rock music. 60s was
best for jazz music as well. 50s were mostly jazz.
Joe Ramirez
> I went through the fan-rated RYM site and looked at their top 5000
> chart.
This sort of confession should be reserved for one's therapist.
[deleted]
> So 2000s was the worst decade for music with no new artists emerging.
> 1990s were bad too -- only one new artist - Radiohead emerged. 1980
> had three new artists emerging - Iron Maiden, Metallica and Sonic
> Youth. 1960s and 1970 were best especially for rock music.
Complete misinterpretation of the data. The only justifiable
conclusion from your "research" is that the music of the 1960s and
1970s is preferred by the self-selected geeks who populate the RYM
site -- and we already knew that.
stuth...@comcast.net
No Elvis?
No Chuck Berry?
No Johnny Cash?
No Jefferson Airplane?
No U2?
Lots of crap?
ermitano
why don't you get a job on a magazine or something?, you're some kind
of frustraded journalist.
or.. easier than that, just take off rec.music.beatles from your
crossposting list.
who?
The 60's, but that doesn't mean any other decade didn't have
good music.
Raja, The Great
What is so geeky about 60s and 70s, but not the other decades? You
seem pissed for some reason.
Raja, The Great
May be because they didn't make many consistent albums?
JohnB
There was loads of good music in the 30s and 40s too. In fact, plenty
of good stuff from earlier than that too. I hear this guy called
Mozart was highly regarded.
JohnB
But you can't judge every artist by the albums they made. Well, maybe
*you* can, but most music lovers wouldn't. You can't say Elvis was
crap because he never made a "classic" album according to RYM.
Raja, The Great
How many artists recorded albums of original material they wrote
themselves during the 30s and 40s? Releasing one good song every
couple years is not difficult you see.
Joe Ramirez
The decades themselves weren't geeky; the folks who obsess about
voting on RYM are geeky. On the whole, those people happen to prefer
those particular decades, probably for a number of reasons (age,
personality, other hobbies/interests, socialization, etc.). The point
is that their particular tastes do not determine the quality of music
in general.
billy
YOU SERIOUSLY NEED TO KILL YOURSELF YOU BROWN SHIT MONKEY BOY
billy
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YOU HAVE NO RIGHT OR REFERENCE POINTS OR WESTERN VALUE
Raja, The Great
> On Jan 6, 12:29 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On Jan 6, 10:58 am, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jan 6, 11:48 am, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > I went through the fan-rated RYM site and looked at their top 5000
> > > > chart.
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> > > This sort of confession should be reserved for one's therapist.
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> > > > So 2000s was the worst decade for music with no new artists emerging.
> > > > 1990s were bad too -- only one new artist - Radiohead emerged. 1980
> > > > had three new artists emerging - Iron Maiden, Metallica and Sonic
> > > > Youth. 1960s and 1970 were best especially for rock music.
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> > > Complete misinterpretation of the data. The only justifiable
> > > conclusion from your "research" is that the music of the 1960s and
> > > 1970s is preferred by the self-selected geeks who populate the RYM
> > > site -- and we already knew that.
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> > What is so geeky about 60s and 70s, but not the other decades?
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> The decades themselves weren't geeky; the folks who obsess about
> voting on RYM are geeky.
Do you know these folks? Why pass judgement about people you don't
know. And the site is open worldwide to everyone. So are you saying
the whole world is geeky? They are not just voting there, they are
writing reviews there.
> On the whole, those people happen to prefer
> those particular decades, probably for a number of reasons (age,
> personality, other hobbies/interests, socialization, etc.). The point
> is that their particular tastes do not determine the quality of music
> in general.
My guess would be that a large percentage of the people who come are
tech savvy and hence quite young. So its amazing that still the 60s
and 70s artists' albums have the best ratings. It is possible that
those decades had the most consistent albums. Have you considered
that? Also I have another theory. Ever since CDs have been used for
recording music, the length of music to be recorded has increased. So
essentially ever since the mid to late 80s, artists have been
releasing one double album after another (way too much music), so
their consistency level is quite low and most albums feature too many
weak songs/fillers. Back then you could release three songs for a
total of 40 minutes and it could be perfect. Now you are pretty much
forced to fill at least 60 minutes on a CD.
Calimero
> I went through the fan-rated RYM site and looked at their top 5000
The 1830s. Or maybe 1840s.
Max
Calimero
Joe is always pissed about something.
Max
Calimero
What's the matter?
We respect even white trailer trash like you.
Why not showing a little bit respect towards Raja, the Great, as well?
Max
Ray
1810 Dickweed
Manco
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> So 2000s was the worst decade for music with no new artists emerging.
> 1990s were bad too -- only one new artist - Radiohead emerged. 1980
> had three new artists emerging - Iron Maiden, Metallica and Sonic
> Youth. 1960s and 1970 were best especially for rock music. 60s was
> best for jazz music as well. 50s were mostly jazz.
You missed ELP from the 70s. Also Muse, Placebo from the 1990s. Franz
Ferdinand, Aracade Fire, Devotchka, Bat for Lashes, Florence + The
Machine form the 2000s.
Raja, The Great
I just listed artists who have 3 albums in top 600 and 5 albums in top
2500. None of these artists even came close to that feat.
Ray
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I should say: "The 1810's dickweed"
Manco
and artists.
Raja, The Great
> I don't care about your rankings Raja, I'm talking about quality bands
> and artists.
ELP were fun, and I like prog. But ELP were hardly quality.
JohnB
Do you mean people like Duke Ellington, Benny Goodman and Glen Miller?
In those days, people didn't record albums like they did in the 60s
and later. That doesn't mean they were no good.
Also why are you suggesting that artists are no good if they don't
write their own material? Are you suggesting Sinatra was no good
because he wasn't known for writing? You don't seem to appreciate the
great song-interpreters (like Sinatra, Ella, Billie).
Manco
quality.
Raja, The Great
> Please define qualty then. All I know is my ears like it, so it's
> quality.
Its subjective. I have heard all their albums and the only ones I
recommend to a NOOB is the debut and Brain Salad Surgery. Karn Evil 9
is one the best moments of prog rock. But ELP hardly made any epic
which was a good as that.
Raja, The Great
When did I suggest people who did not make the list above as no good?
Quit putting words in my mouth.
Manco
Patrick Kehoe
??? Try Duke Ellington in the 1930s not 1950s... Ella was a top
vocalists in the 40s as well... HOW OLD ARE YOU? Stick to Rock and
Roll... you don't know jack about other music...
P
Raja, The Great
http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/duke_ellington
Duke Ellington did not release a single album the 1930s, dummkopf. We
are talking albums here.
stuth...@comcast.net
> > No Jefferson Airplane?
Surrealistic Pillow
After Bathing at Baxter's
Crown of Creation
Volunteers
Indisputably one of the best and most groundbreaking rock bands of the
1960s.
> > No U2?
Boy
War
Unforgettable Fire
Joshua Tree
Achtung Baby
All You Can't Leave Behind
Indisputably one of the best bands of the 1980s and beyond, and
arguably the last great rock band ever (so far).
mcnewsxp
i think this one is a contender.
hey, don't go changin...
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Ray
Not even close fanboi.
Ray
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That's funny, it looks like it says "Music In General"
Inglourious Basterd
Right. Any list of favourite albums (or books, films etc) is
inevitably going to be subjective and therefore there is no definitive
"greatest" example of these media.
Inglourious Basterd
Raja, The Great
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> On Jan 6, 12:29 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > No Jefferson Airplane?
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> Surrealistic Pillow
> After Bathing at Baxter's
> Crown of Creation
> Volunteers
>
> Indisputably one of the best and most groundbreaking rock bands of the
> 1960s.
They didnt break crap. Psychedelic music was being done as early as
1966 when they were writing folk stuff.
Psychedelic music's LSD-inspired vibe began in the folk scene, with
the New York-based Holy Modal Rounders using the term in their 1964
recording of "Hesitation Blues".[5] The first group to advertise
themselves as psychedelic rock were the 13th Floor Elevators from
Texas, at the end of 1965. The term was first used in print in the
Austin American Statesman in an article about the band titled "Unique
Elevators shine with psychedelic rock", dated 10 February 1966, and
theirs was the first album to use the term as part of its title, in
The Psychedelic Sounds of the 13th Floor Elevators, released in August
that year.[5]
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> > > No U2?
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> Boy
> War
> Unforgettable Fire
> Joshua Tree
> Achtung Baby
> All You Can't Leave Behind
>
> Indisputably one of the best bands of the 1980s and beyond, and
> arguably the last great rock band ever (so far).
Of that only only Joshua Tree has 50% memorable songs. Achtung Baby
was very disappointing. Majority of the songs sound alike... and only
few stand out.
Raja, The Great
> which is the dumbest of your lists?
Its not my list. The top 5000 is derived from fan votes.
> i think this one is a contender.
> hey, don't go changin...
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> "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:bf271c9e-8896-4259...@y31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com...
who?
> > good music.
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>>There was loads of good music in the 30s and 40s too. In fact, plenty
>>of good stuff from earlier than that too.
Yeah, some of it I was taught on guitar at age 6. When did you
start playing guitar? I forgot to ask you.
I hear this guy called
> Mozart was highly regarded.
Yep.
who?
> On Jan 6, 11:55 am, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com> wrote:
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> > On Jan 6, 12:29 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jan 6, 10:58 am, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com> wrote:
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> > > > > I went through the fan-rated RYM site and looked at their top 5000
> > > > > chart.
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> > > > [deleted]
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> > > > > 1990s were bad too -- only one new artist - Radiohead emerged. 1980
> > > > > had three new artists emerging - Iron Maiden, Metallica and Sonic
> > > > > Youth. 1960s and 1970 were best especially for rock music.
>
> > > > conclusion from your "research" is that the music of the 1960s and
> > > > 1970s is preferred by the self-selected geeks who populate the RYM
> > > > site -- and we already knew that.
>
> > > What is so geeky about 60s and 70s, but not the other decades?
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> > The decades themselves weren't geeky; the folks who obsess about
> > voting on RYM are geeky.
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> know. And the site is open worldwide to everyone. So are you saying
> the whole world is geeky? They are not just voting there, they are
> writing reviews there.
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> > On the whole, those people happen to prefer
> > those particular decades, probably for a number of reasons (age,
> > personality, other hobbies/interests, socialization, etc.). The point
> > is that their particular tastes do not determine the quality of music
> > in general.
>
> tech savvy and hence quite young. So its amazing that still the 60s
> and 70s artists' albums have the best ratings. It is possible that
> those decades had the most consistent albums. Have you considered
> that? Also I have another theory. Ever since CDs have been used for
> recording music, the length of music to be recorded has increased. So
> essentially ever since the mid to late 80s, artists have been
> releasing one double album after another (way too much music), so
> their consistency level is quite low and most albums feature too many
> weak songs/fillers. Back then you could release three songs for a
> total of 40 minutes and it could be perfect.
>>Now you are pretty much
>>forced to fill at least 60 minutes on a CD.
If I try that, the CD ends up being defective.
who?
Why don't you try listening to CD's of acts that aren't so popular
once in a while? You'll find some great music. It doesn't matter
how many people bought a CD.
Pelle Svanslös
He wrote jokes.
Manco
Patrick Kehoe
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They didn't have long play LP's in the 1930s :)))))))))))))
Man...
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JohnB
I started learing on a friend's guitar when I was 15. A year later I'd
saved up enough to buy my own first guitar (it was awful) and from
there I've slowly upgraded (very slowly at first) to the point where I
now have eight good guitars to choose from. It's comparatively
recently that I've started learning to play some of those great
standards though.
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> I hear this guy called
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> > Mozart was highly regarded.
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> Yep.
Yes, but my wife doesn't understand why I don't like him as much as
she does :-) I prefer Vaughan Williams.
JohnB
Indeed. Loads of people love Nick Drake now but while he was alive, he
sold albums in the hundreds, not thousands.
JohnB
If he did, they would have been in German, so I doubt I'd have
understood them :-)
TT
TT
I never liked it much. After seeing and hearing this song for about 200
times I began hating the band and it's squealing singer :)
who?
I remember when my brother was 13 and I thought he was
too old to learn the guitar. Sounds silly huh? I wish I
had as many guitars as you do. Have you put up any
new videos in youtube?
> > I hear this guy called
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> > > Mozart was highly regarded.
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> > Yep.
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> Yes, but my wife doesn't understand why I don't like him as much as
> she does :-) I prefer Vaughan Williams.
:-)
JohnB
Not yet. We've spent a lot of the last few months finishing off a new
cd, then Christmas was spoiled by bronchitis. Can't wait to get back
to the music.
JohnB
The first "albums" were like books where every page held a 10" 78rpm
record. They were quite expensive though.
stuth...@comcast.net
I can see where oversaturation can make one sick of U2. Or Led
Zeppelin, for that matter.
stuth...@comcast.net
> On Jan 6, 2:10 pm, "stuthalb...@comcast.net" <stuthalb...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
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> > On Jan 6, 12:29 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > No Jefferson Airplane?
>
> > Surrealistic Pillow
> > After Bathing at Baxter's
> > Crown of Creation
> > Volunteers
>
> > Indisputably one of the best and most groundbreaking rock bands of the
> > 1960s.
>
> They didnt break crap. Psychedelic music was being done as early as
> 1966 when they were writing folk stuff.
> Psychedelic music's LSD-inspired vibe began in the folk scene, with
> the New York-based Holy Modal Rounders using the term in their 1964
> recording of "Hesitation Blues".[5] The first group to advertise
> themselves as psychedelic rock were the 13th Floor Elevators from
> Texas, at the end of 1965. The term was first used in print in the
> Austin American Statesman in an article about the band titled "Unique
> Elevators shine with psychedelic rock", dated 10 February 1966, and
> theirs was the first album to use the term as part of its title, in
> The Psychedelic Sounds of the 13th Floor Elevators, released in August
> that year.[5]
>
Except no one outside Austin ever HEARD the 13th Floor Elevators, and
they returned to the drug-addled oblivion from whence they came.
The Airplane, with no less than FOUR dominant singer-songwriters, were
the first and biggest SF band to break, and they remained among the
biggest American bands into the 1970s, and including spinoff bands Hot
Tuna and Jefferson Starship, into the 1980s.
>
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> > > > No U2?
>
> > Boy
> > War
> > Unforgettable Fire
> > Joshua Tree
> > Achtung Baby
> > All You Can't Leave Behind
>
> > Indisputably one of the best bands of the 1980s and beyond, and
> > arguably the last great rock band ever (so far).
>
> Of that only only Joshua Tree has 50% memorable songs. Achtung Baby
> was very disappointing. Majority of the songs sound alike... and only
> few stand out.
Arguing with world dominance is always an uphill battle, just like
arguing that Led Zeppelin or THE WALL suck (personally, I think The
Wall sucks, but you can't fight sales).
You lose.
stuth...@comcast.net
> > > > No Jefferson Airplane?
>
> > Surrealistic Pillow
> > After Bathing at Baxter's
> > Crown of Creation
> > Volunteers
>
> > Indisputably one of the best and most groundbreaking rock bands of the
> > 1960s.
>
> They didnt break crap. Psychedelic music was being done as early as
> 1966 when they were writing folk stuff.
> Psychedelic music's LSD-inspired vibe began in the folk scene, with
> the New York-based Holy Modal Rounders using the term in their 1964
> recording of "Hesitation Blues".
The only recording of "Hesitation Blues" anybody remembers is Airplane/
Tuna founder Jorma Kaukonen's.
Again, you lose.
Whisper
Raja will say this decade, but that's ceibs bumrooting.
Andrew J Chung
important to society you might matter.
Andrew J Chung
Because no one would hire him...unless of course he was wearing a headset...
Char1ie
<zepf...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Jan 6, 2:10 pm, "stuthalb...@comcast.net" <stuthalb...@comcast.net>
>wrote:
>> On Jan 6, 12:29 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > No Jefferson Airplane?
>>
>> Surrealistic Pillow
>> After Bathing at Baxter's
>> Crown of Creation
>> Volunteers
>>
>> Indisputably one of the best and most groundbreaking rock bands of the
>> 1960s.
>
>They didnt break crap. Psychedelic music was being done as early as
>1966 when they were writing folk stuff.
>Psychedelic music's LSD-inspired vibe began in the folk scene, with
>the New York-based Holy Modal Rounders using the term in their 1964
>recording of "Hesitation Blues".[5] The first group to advertise
>themselves as psychedelic rock were the 13th Floor Elevators from
>Texas, at the end of 1965. The term was first used in print in the
>Austin American Statesman in an article about the band titled "Unique
>Elevators shine with psychedelic rock", dated 10 February 1966, and
>theirs was the first album to use the term as part of its title, in
>The Psychedelic Sounds of the 13th Floor Elevators, released in August
>that year.[5]
>>
You really think you know, don't you? You do a little research on the
net for earliest "Psychedelic" reference, and then write like you know
all about it. Airplane was a groundbreaking "quality" rock band. And
I may be wrong, but I think the Blues Magoos may have had the
Elavators by a few days. Ever heard of "Psychedelic Lillipop". Wiki,
which I know is not always correct, says that the album you mention
wasn't recorded until October.
globular
> On 6 Jan., 17:48, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I went through the fan-rated RYM site and looked at their top 5000
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> The 1830s. Or maybe 1840s.
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> Max
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The 1780s were a golden age.
Music changed a lot after the 1820s.
Does anyone really prefer modern music from the 1900s?
They were modern then too.
globular
> On Jan 6, 8:48 am, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> So 2000s was the worst decade for music with no new artists emerging.
>> 1990s were bad too -- only one new artist - Radiohead emerged. 1980
>> had three new artists emerging - Iron Maiden, Metallica and Sonic
>> Youth. 1960s and 1970 were best especially for rock music. 60s was
>> best for jazz music as well. 50s were mostly jazz.
>
> Ferdinand, Aracade Fire, Devotchka, Bat for Lashes, Florence + The
> Machine form the 2000s.
That just shows your age.
Manco
> The 20's was best. 1720's that is.
Vivaldi was really rockin' those 20s.
Eric Ramon
I prefer the 40s and 50s. Bach, Domenico Scarlatti, Handel.
P-Dub
The prog guru of those days was Johann Sebastian Bach. Way ahead of his
time.
Of course, you could always catch a show (if you were royal enough) at
the Royal Academy of music, where that crazy dude Handel was jamming
with all kinds of singers.
P-Dub: Listening to sir Warren Haynes
globular
> On Jan 6, 11:55 am, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 6, 12:29 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>> On Jan 6, 10:58 am, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com> wrote:
>>>> On Jan 6, 11:48 am, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> I went through the fan-rated RYM site and looked at their top 5000
>>>>> chart.
>>>> [deleted]
>>>>> 1990s were bad too -- only one new artist - Radiohead emerged. 1980
>>>>> had three new artists emerging - Iron Maiden, Metallica and Sonic
>>>>> Youth. 1960s and 1970 were best especially for rock music.
had to admit that CDs had replaced vinyl. It wasn't really obvious till
then, and seemed to happen quickly.
And CDs haven't changed one bit since, how long did vinyl last
unchanged? Except the process of how to make the digital music sound
has changed, not the technical details.
What was the first single album released over 50 minutes, oddities not
included like Acido Amigo and Get Happy by Elvis Costello, and budget
albums that were about 60 minutes since the early 70s? I suspect it was
in the 90s.
globular
> On Jan 6, 10:59 am, "stuthalb...@comcast.net"
> <stuthalb...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Typical Raja list.
>>
>> No Elvis?
>> No Chuck Berry?
>> No Johnny Cash?
>> No Jefferson Airplane?
>> No U2?
>>
>> Lots of crap?
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> May be because they didn't make many consistent albums?
Famously and historically, albums replaced singles in importance in 1967.
abe slaney
Camptown Races
Old Folks at Home (Oh, Susanna)
My Old Kentucky Home
Jeanie with the Light Brown Hair
totally freaking awesome decade
TheWalrusWasDanny
Danny
King Size Johnson
> Which decade was the best for music in general?
This one. We can hear all the music from previous decades
Mack A. Damia
Hard to choose just one decade.
Early part of the 20th Century, Rachmaninoff and Elgar in the
neo-classical mode. Hard to beat Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini and
Nimrod (Enigma Variations).
Going to more popular music , Cole Porter, Jerome Kern, George
Gershwin and many others in that era.
Definitely !960's for Rock-and-Roll.
Eric Ramon
that one guy was pretty special. I'd like to know more about some
others of the day. Reading about Foster is fascinating. Usually he
made about $20 or so off a tune, died young.
number_six
Bach had a stretch during which he knocked out a new cantata pretty
much every week.
The Nice Mean Man
> I went through the fan-rated RYM site and looked at their top 5000
> 1990s were bad too -- only one new artist - Radiohead emerged. 1980
> had three new artists emerging - Iron Maiden, Metallica and Sonic
> best for jazz music as well. 50s were mostly jazz.
The 1950s. Pure and unadulterated. And just for fun.
TNMM
billy
Yes do not belong in this list
billy
> On Jan 6, 3:15 pm, "mcnewsxp" <mcbassgui...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > which is the dumbest of your lists?
>
> Its not my list. The top 5000 is derived from fan votes.
>
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>
> > i think this one is a contender.
> > hey, don't go changin...
>
> > "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:bf271c9e-8896-4259...@y31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com...
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Seriously raja you never answered, how many penises have been in your
mouth
Raja, The Great
Oh please all U2 songs sound the same. Don't even compare them to Led
Zeppelin. And U2 is all over the map. LZ you can listen to only on
certain classic rock stations.
Raja, The Great
The Wall hardly sucks. It is not a perfect album, but it does not
suck.
Raja, The Great
Didn't The Doors debut come out as early as Jan 1967? A whole month
before Surrealistic Pillow. Quit overhyping Jefferson Airplane. They
were a decent psychedelic band, nowhere in the league of The Doors,
The Jimi Hendrix Experience and Pink Floyd.
Raja, The Great
Yeah, the beginning of the best age of rock music (and jazz fusion,
and funk and reggae)
JohnB
You haven't heard enough U2.
But don't worry, I won't compare them to LZ because their musical
roots are different.
Oh, and you can hear both U2 and LZ on BBC Radio 2 if you listen to
the right programmes (Bob Harris is the best).
The Nice Mean Man
> of frustraded journalist.
> or.. easier than that, just take off rec.music.beatles from your
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Let that boy boogie-woogie. It's in `em. And it's got to come out.
TT
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Ding ding!
Pelle Svanslös
He was a master recycler. Guess they had just invented the printing
press and JSB, the old geek, fell in love with it.
How many times did he put that damned chorale in St Matthew's Passion
for instance? Jesus, he'd get sued for that if he did it now.
Iceberg
> On Jan 6, 11:55 am, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 6, 12:29 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 6, 10:58 am, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com> wrote:
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>
> > > > > I went through the fan-rated RYM site and looked at their top 5000
> > > > > chart.
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> > > > [deleted]
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> > > > > 1990s were bad too -- only one new artist - Radiohead emerged. 1980
> > > > > had three new artists emerging - Iron Maiden, Metallica and Sonic
> > > > > Youth. 1960s and 1970 were best especially for rock music.
>
1) yeah you're probably right about filling 60mins of a CD.
2) most people really into their music seem to love the 60's and esp
rock of the 70's.
3) 80's was different, modern and fun + 90's had a few bits of good
stuff like Oasis.
4) Joe is probably secretly well into 2000 boy/girl groups or pop rap
or 'RNB'.
JohnB
I just checked my database for what I've bought that were released in
the last two years (not including live or compilation albums) and I
think the average length is about 45-50m, maybe a little less.
Vinyl albums used to average out at about 40m or just under, so cds
have probably given us an extra 5m of music per album.
> 2) most people really into their music seem to love the 60's and esp
> rock of the 70's.
Most people of my age certainly do.
> 3) 80's was different, modern and fun + 90's had a few bits of good
> stuff like Oasis.
The last three decades have seen a growing difference between what I
like and what gets into the charts, particularly with "singles".
There's good music out there but you have to work to find it. I always
preferred Blur to Oasis anyway :-)
billy
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i think there are people doing searches to find where you live
XiRÿZ
<0b39f2b6-0b19-40f6...@39g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
billy <goodcom...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Nothing quite like the 80's although the 70's were interesting to see
how the music was progressing until then. The 90's were when I started
listening to my iPod more than the radio, and since 2000 I have found
maybe 2 albums a year that I get. I did enjoy the 60's but I played it
so much then that I am burned out on it now.
--
(<>..<>)
who?
Everything Pink Floyd did sucks, IMO.
who?
Yeah, you do have that right.
Char1ie
<yourimag...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>Everything Pink Floyd did sucks, IMO.
Words of wisdom from the same guy who thinks Sgt. Pepper is a "piece
of shit".
who?
> >Everything Pink Floyd did sucks, IMO.
>>Words of wisdom from the same guy who thinks Sgt. Pepper is a "piece
>> of shit".
It is a piece of shit, "in my opinion".....and I have a right to my
opinion just like you do. What's the matter? Do you fear I
have the power to change the minds of millions of people
who love "Sgt. Pepper"? You act like it.
RichL
news:47576685-3211-44fa...@w2g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 6, 4:34 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> They didnt break crap. Psychedelic music was being done as early as
>> 1966 when they were writing folk stuff.
>> Psychedelic music's LSD-inspired vibe began in the folk scene, with
>> the New York-based Holy Modal Rounders using the term in their 1964
>> recording of "Hesitation Blues".[5] The first group to advertise
>> themselves as psychedelic rock were the 13th Floor Elevators from
>> Texas, at the end of 1965. The term was first used in print in the
>> Austin American Statesman in an article about the band titled "Unique
>> Elevators shine with psychedelic rock", dated 10 February 1966, and
>> theirs was the first album to use the term as part of its title, in
>> The Psychedelic Sounds of the 13th Floor Elevators, released in August
>> that year.[5]
>>
>
> Except no one outside Austin ever HEARD the 13th Floor Elevators, and
> they returned to the drug-addled oblivion from whence they came.
That's not true, actually.
>
> The Airplane, with no less than FOUR dominant singer-songwriters, were
> the first and biggest SF band to break, and they remained among the
> biggest American bands into the 1970s, and including spinoff bands Hot
> Tuna and Jefferson Starship, into the 1980s.
FOUR dominant singers? The only DOMINANT singers were Slick and Balin, and
Slick wasn't very dominant at all singing live.
As for Starship, I've forgiven them for that :-)
The Nice Mean Man
You've just lost. Everything. "In my opinion"
The Nice Mean Man
globular
> On Jan 6, 7:47 pm, globular <takecarebew...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Raja, The Great wrote:
>>> On Jan 6, 10:59 am, "stuthalb...@comcast.net"
>>> <stuthalb...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> Typical Raja list.
>>>> No Elvis?
>>>> No Chuck Berry?
>>>> No Johnny Cash?
>>>> No Jefferson Airplane?
>>>> No U2?
>>>> Lots of crap?
>>> May be because they didn't make many consistent albums?
>> Famously and historically, albums replaced singles in importance in 1967.
>
> Yeah, the beginning of the best age of rock music (and jazz fusion,
> and funk and reggae)
Well I think they got too good at cleaning up and controlling the sound
a couple of years after that. Naturally it all starts to sound like
jazz fusion or something.
King Size Johnson
> The 1950s. Pure and unadulterated. And just for fun.
>
> TNMM
Translation: "we could be brutal to darkies and not get arrested".
Right, IBen?
Char1ie
<yourimag...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>It is a piece of shit, "in my opinion".....and I have a right to my
>opinion just like you do. What's the matter? Do you fear I
>have the power to change the minds of millions of people
>who love "Sgt. Pepper"? You act like it.
No, just a warning for others that someone who thinks everything Pink
Floyd does sucks is the same wacko who thinks Sgt. Pepper is a "piece
of shit". I told you before you sound like an idiot. How can anyone
take anything you say seriously?
Jeff Blanks
> What was the first single album released over 50 minutes, oddities not
> included like Acido Amigo and Get Happy by Elvis Costello, and budget
> albums that were about 60 minutes since the early 70s? I suspect it was
> in the 90s.
Most of Genesis' '70s albums are longer than 50 minutes. I know there
are a few Miles Davis albums from back then, too (I'm thinking of *Get
Up With It*, which I've seen but never actually heard! It's a double
set IIRC, at least one of whose disks lasts an hour), so there must be
more where that came from, I figure.
--
"When someone serves you coffee, don't go looking for beer in it."
--Anton Chekhov
TheWalrusWasDanny
> globular <takecarebew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > What was the first single album released over 50 minutes, oddities not
> > included like Acido Amigo and Get Happy by Elvis Costello, and budget
> > albums that were about 60 minutes since the early 70s? I suspect it was
> > in the 90s.
>
> Most of Genesis' '70s albums are longer than 50 minutes.
Well they never fitted on a side of a C90 which always annoyed me!!
Genesis were genius...it's not Beatles ..but I'll witter on..Genesis
are the next stage Beatles IMO..they are utterly English and were a
developement of everything the Beatles did...the concept album..the
clever melodies..early Genesis was the new Beatles.
Danny
Whisper
> globular<takecar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What was the first single album released over 50 minutes, oddities not
>> included like Acido Amigo and Get Happy by Elvis Costello, and budget
>> albums that were about 60 minutes since the early 70s? I suspect it was
>> in the 90s.
>
> Most of Genesis' '70s albums are longer than 50 minutes.
They are at least 50 mins too long.