Status: Rafa

[TT]

Will not play any tuneups before USO!

Because he has commercial commitments in NY, apparently same week
Winston-Salem would be played.

Has had some low intensity practise sessions in Mallorca. Not every day
though, didn't practise yesterday.

Says himself that he will not return before being fully fit. I
personally think he'll play USO anyway, even if not 100%. Anyway, there
are still 2 weeks to get better.

[felangey]

> Says himself that he will not return before being fully fit. I personally
> think he'll play USO anyway, even if not 100%. Anyway, there are still 2
> weeks to get better.

Whoa....back right up. Rrrafa says that his Olympic Gold medal is the most
important title to him, and he *has* to be believed.....it's a no brainer.
Rrrrafa says that he will not return before being fully fit, and he is a big
fat pastie snowman liar? Either the words of these people you keep quoting
are gospel.....or we admit the possibility that at any one time they could
be telling porkies. You can't just keep cherrypicking.

[Ulysses]

He is not playing the USO, take that to the bank. Murray will take his
#3 ranking soon enough. The only player who could get by with blowing
out any tune ups and winning a slam was Agassi and he only managed
that feat once, in 1992.

[Ulysses]

The evidence grows deafening that he's again serving a silent ban by
the ATP for all the nauseating doping. Same as in 2009. Oh well, let
Fed pick up #18 while Rafa is "recuperating." Works for me!

[RzR]

haha this seems a bit too much just to justify the loss to rosol :D

[TT]

Couldn't I just say my opinion whether he'll play without you making a
political statement about it?

Why does everything here have to be so damn sick...

[TT]

Surely you can't think that is why he skips Olympics, Montreal and Cincy...

Do you understand anything about sports?

[moduli]

If he's still mending he should simply pull out of USO too. Finally let
himself recover completely for a change. Ramp it up for YEC ;-)

[Court_1]

It is hilarious that you believe everything that Nadal tells the
media. Do you not understand that he has one of the biggest PR
agencies working for him in sports. All of this stuff is carefully
timed and worded. To me, it does not look like he is going to play the
USO, if you can read between the lines (which I don't think you can
when it comes to Nadal) that seems to be what is going to likely
happen.

If he does not play the USO, it is due to a silent ban. No tennis
player is going to miss the Olympics especially when you are asked to
carry the flag or going to miss a slam unless he is seriously
injured. How can Nadal be seriously injured? He played Halle and
Wimbledon after the FO and looked fine. Three months rest for a knee
problem is not enough? Come on, something is not right here. You are
too blinded by fandom to see it.

[TT]

11.8.2012 1:30, moduli kirjoitti:
> On 2012-08-10, TT <as...@usenet.org> wrote:
>> Will not play any tuneups before USO!
>>
>> Because he has commercial commitments in NY, apparently same week
>> Winston-Salem would be played.
>>
>> Has had some low intensity practise sessions in Mallorca. Not every day
>> though, didn't practise yesterday.
>>
>> Says himself that he will not return before being fully fit. I
>> personally think he'll play USO anyway, even if not 100%. Anyway, there
>> are still 2 weeks to get better.
>>
> If he's still mending he should simply pull out of USO too.

Probably yes. But next important tournament after USO is AO so I think
he might play even if not quite 100%, he can rest after USO.

And USO is 2 weeks. It is possible to get better during it, although
unlikely.

[Court_1]

On Aug 10, 6:33 pm, TT <as...@usenet.org> wrote:

> And USO is 2 weeks. It is possible to get better during it, although
> unlikely.

LOL. Nadal must laugh at how naive most of his fans are.

[TT]

11.8.2012 1:30, Court_1 kirjoitti:
> Three months rest for a knee
> problem is not enough? Come on, something is not right here. You are
> too blinded by fandom to see it.

Don't be silly.

He was injured at Wimbledon, and how long time is it since his last match...

It takes several weeks for tendon problems to heal. Rafa always cuts it
short, the healing time.

[felangey]

> Probably yes. But next important tournament after USO is AO so I think he
> might play even if not quite 100%, he can rest after USO.

You woulda thunk he woulda played the most monumental tennis event on the
planet, the limpcs, even if not 100%....and then take the rest of the year
off. Olympics is losing cachet hour by hour today! Go figure.

[TT]

Excuse me. What is so naive about this?

I'm not being naive since I'm saying that Rafa may play USO if not 100%
- so I don't believe what he says.

[TT]

Well there's a few weeks time difference between Olympics and USO,
dummie. Obviously his knees won't be as bad at USO as they would've been
at Olympics. Jesus how anal people.

And the time table is different as well, at USO you get to rest for a
day between matches.

[Court_1]

If his injury is so bad, why is he just not saying, I will not be
playing the USO? No, this is all timed and staged by IMG even though
he knows perfectly well whether he is playing USO or not. They have to
time it wisely for the dummy fans and for the ticket holders of the
USO who clearly want to see all of the top players there and will not
be happy about the news.

I hope he does play the USO, big tournaments are definitely more
interesting with him in them and I want to finally see a Federer/Nadal
match at the USO!

[RzR]

hes gonna pull another 6 months preparation for the clay season...wont
work this time though

[RzR]

any match on hard court is like playing 2-3 on grass, so that pretty
much nullifies the difference...do you know anything about surfaces?

[felangey]

> Well there's a few weeks time difference between Olympics and USO, dummie.
> Obviously his knees won't be as bad at USO as they would've been at
> Olympics. Jesus how anal people.
>

I don't even get why he was risking "it" in clay season....he should really
have tanked for the biggest tennis tournie in the universe?

[jdeluise]

On 10-Aug-2012, TT <as...@usenet.org> wrote:

> Says himself that he will not return before being fully fit. I
> personally think he'll play USO anyway, even if not 100%. Anyway, there
> are still 2 weeks to get better.

Toni is busy creating a Rosol look-alike in Topspin 4 for Nadal to practice
against. Once he wins a few matches there he'll be 100%.

[felangey]

> so I don't believe what he says.

Boooom.....the Olympics taking beating after beating tonight folks. Rrrafa
lied.

[TT]

11.8.2012 1:49, Court_1 kirjoitti:
> On Aug 10, 6:41 pm, TT <as...@usenet.org> wrote:
>> 11.8.2012 1:35, Court_1 kirjoitti:
>>
>>> On Aug 10, 6:33 pm, TT <as...@usenet.org> wrote:
>>
>>>> And USO is 2 weeks. It is possible to get better during it, although
>>>> unlikely.
>>
>>> LOL. Nadal must laugh at how naive most of his fans are.
>>
>> Excuse me. What is so naive about this?
>>
>> I'm not being naive since I'm saying that Rafa may play USO if not 100%
>> - so I don't believe what he says.
>
> If his injury is so bad, why is he just not saying, I will not be
> playing the USO? No, this is all timed and staged by IMG even though
> he knows perfectly well whether he is playing USO or not. They have to
> time it wisely for the dummy fans and for the ticket holders of the
> USO who clearly want to see all of the top players there and will not
> be happy about the news.
>

So you're claiming that he will not play USO. We will see, I think
you're wrong.

Besides, he can't possibly know at this point that his knees wouldn't be
good in 2 weeks, considering he's already had 4 weeks of rest.

[TT]

trolling

[TT]

trolling

[TT]

trolling...

[felangey]

>> I don't even get why he was risking "it" in clay season....he should
>> really have tanked for the biggest tennis tournie in the universe?
>
> trolling

Failure to respond to legitimate question.

[felangey]

>> Boooom.....the Olympics taking beating after beating tonight folks.
>> Rrrafa lied.
>
> trolling...

You lost your case. Simples. :)

[Tom Undelay]

I think mikko is onto something!

[TT]

Yeah, he should have skipped clay season and Wimbledon to make 100% sure
he was ready for Olympics. Happy?

[TT]

11.8.2012 2:05, felangey kirjoitti:

You did. I didn't claim Rafa lied, I claimed he will play it even if
little injured.

[felangey]

> Yeah, he should have skipped clay season and Wimbledon to make 100% sure
> he was ready for Olympics. Happy?

Delirious. :)

[felangey]

> You did. I didn't claim Rafa lied, I claimed he will play it even if
> little injured.

"so I don't believe what he says" = you think he is lying. Simples.

[TT]

Nope. I think he will change his mind if 95% healed instead of 100%.
Cause it's long time to AO.

[felangey]

>> "so I don't believe what he says" = you think he is lying. Simples.
>
> Nope. I think he will change his mind if 95% healed instead of 100%.
> Cause it's long time to AO.

What do you mean "nope"? You go on to confirm a "yup".

[Ulysses]

"Rafa is playing the USO..."

"Trolling..."
-----------------------------------

He will hold a presser the first day of the USO (like Sampras did when
he pulled out, when Agassi did with his "wrist injury" the day before
the AO one year).... and announce with maudlin pathos, "I want to play
US Open, no? But knees not allow it, no? I so sorry to fans and
sponsers, I try but I cannot take court, no?"

Unadulterated bullshit, no?

He knew the moment he lost to Rosol he wouldn't play again for months,
maybe until Doha, 2013. They obviously banned him for 6 months for
failing yet another drug test.

[Vari L. Cinicke]

On 8/10/2012 5:33 PM, TT wrote:
> Because he has commercial commitments in NY

Here we all thought Nadal was about tennis!

[Vari L. Cinicke]

ROFL!

Leave the poor boy alone. Isn't it enough that he has contradicted
himself and Nadal multiple times in this thread?

[bob]

he needs to come fit to challenge at a USO. while i'm an advocate of
scaling back training intensity, i'm not an advocate of reducing it
altogether forcibly because of injury. if that's the case he should
skip USO.

bob

[Dave Hazelwood]

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 00:33:02 +0300, TT <as...@usenet.org> wrote:

>Will not play any tuneups before USO!
>
>Because he has commercial commitments in NY, apparently same week
>Winston-Salem would be played.
>
>Has had some low intensity practise sessions in Mallorca. Not every day
>though, didn't practise yesterday.
>

>Says himself that he will not return before being fully fit. I
>personally think he'll play USO anyway, even if not 100%. Anyway, there
>are still 2 weeks to get better.
>

he won't play. He's a fucking coward and a cheat who is now scared
shitless that his gig has run it's course and it's defeats at the
hands of #100 types from here on out.

i think he will be quitting before he wins another slam.

[Dave Hazelwood]

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:11:48 -0700 (PDT), Ulysses <uly...@mscomm.com>
wrote:

>On Aug 10, 3:00�pm, "felangey" <oncl...@nine.com> wrote:
>> > Says himself that he will not return before being fully fit. I personally
>> > think he'll play USO anyway, even if not 100%. Anyway, there are still 2
>> > weeks to get better.
>>

>> Whoa....back right up. Rrrafa says that his Olympic Gold medal is the most
>> important title to him, and he *has* to be believed.....it's a no brainer.
>> Rrrrafa says that he will not return before being fully fit, and he is a big
>> fat pastie snowman liar? Either the words of these people you keep quoting
>> are gospel.....or we admit the possibility that at any one time they could
>> be telling porkies. You can't just keep cherrypicking.
>
>He is not playing the USO, take that to the bank. Murray will take his
>#3 ranking soon enough. The only player who could get by with blowing
>out any tune ups and winning a slam was Agassi and he only managed
>that feat once, in 1992.


Of course I said this two weeks or more ago. He's fucked. I mean
really really fucked this time.

[Dave Hazelwood]

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 01:26:13 +0300, TT <as...@usenet.org> wrote:

>11.8.2012 1:00, felangey kirjoitti:
>>> Says himself that he will not return before being fully fit. I
>>> personally think he'll play USO anyway, even if not 100%. Anyway,
>>> there are still 2 weeks to get better.
>>
>> Whoa....back right up. Rrrafa says that his Olympic Gold medal is the
>> most important title to him, and he *has* to be believed.....it's a no
>> brainer. Rrrrafa says that he will not return before being fully fit,
>> and he is a big fat pastie snowman liar? Either the words of these
>> people you keep quoting are gospel.....or we admit the possibility that
>> at any one time they could be telling porkies. You can't just keep
>> cherrypicking.
>

>Couldn't I just say my opinion whether he'll play without you making a
>political statement about it?
>
>Why does everything here have to be so damn sick...

Because Rafa is ? When you discuss sickness it is sickening no?

[Dave Hazelwood]

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:35:43 -0700 (PDT), Court_1
<Olymp...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Aug 10, 6:33�pm, TT <as...@usenet.org> wrote:
>
>> And USO is 2 weeks. It is possible to get better during it, although
>> unlikely.
>
>LOL. Nadal must laugh at how naive most of his fans are.

Like you ? You are the most naive of all of them.

[Dave Hazelwood]

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:30:48 -0700 (PDT), Court_1
<Olymp...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Aug 10, 5:33�pm, TT <as...@usenet.org> wrote:
>> Will not play any tuneups before USO!
>>
>> Because he has commercial commitments in NY, apparently same week
>> Winston-Salem would be played.
>>
>> Has had some low intensity practise sessions in Mallorca. Not every day
>> though, didn't practise yesterday.
>>

>> Says himself that he will not return before being fully fit. I
>> personally think he'll play USO anyway, even if not 100%. Anyway, there
>> are still 2 weeks to get better.
>

>It is hilarious that you believe everything that Nadal tells the
>media. Do you not understand that he has one of the biggest PR
>agencies working for him in sports. All of this stuff is carefully
>timed and worded. To me, it does not look like he is going to play the
>USO, if you can read between the lines (which I don't think you can
>when it comes to Nadal) that seems to be what is going to likely
>happen.
>
>If he does not play the USO, it is due to a silent ban. No tennis
>player is going to miss the Olympics especially when you are asked to
>carry the flag or going to miss a slam unless he is seriously
>injured. How can Nadal be seriously injured? He played Halle and
>Wimbledon after the FO and looked fine. Three months rest for a knee
>problem is not enough? Come on, something is not right here. You are
>too blinded by fandom to see it.


and YOU still want the dope fiend ass picking cheater with a stink
finger to play for your life. not me. i'd rather be dead !

[RzR]

more like owwning :D

[Gracchus]

On Aug 11, 7:41 am, Ulysses <ulys...@mscomm.com> wrote:

> He knew the moment he lost to Rosol he wouldn't play again for months,
> maybe until Doha, 2013. They obviously banned him for 6 months for
> failing yet another drug test.

That could be one reason for Rafa not playing. I think another is that
Rosol exposed him as a pussy and he's afraid to face the competition
now. Not only will other players TOY with him on court now, they'll
rat-tail his bare ass in the locker room. That is, until he asks for
more.

[RaspingDrive]

On Aug 10, 11:26 pm, Dave Hazelwood <fedna...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Of course I said this two weeks or more ago. He's fucked. I mean
> really really fucked this time.

Your prediction record probably sucks :)

[RaspingDrive]

If O was the be-all and end-all of everything, as you have claimed
zillion times, he should have!

[TT]

you mean really really sucks this time.

[TT]

Think before typing. Just a thought.

[RaspingDrive]

Applies very well to you.

[TT]

Thanks.

[Dave Hazelwood]

yeah i reckin yur right !

[bob]

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 07:23:22 -0700 (PDT), Gracchus
<cernu...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Aug 11, 7:41 am, Ulysses <ulys...@mscomm.com> wrote:
>
>> He knew the moment he lost to Rosol he wouldn't play again for months,
>> maybe until Doha, 2013. They obviously banned him for 6 months for
>> failing yet another drug test.
>
>That could be one reason for Rafa not playing. I think another is that
>Rosol exposed him as a pussy and he's afraid to face the competition
>now.

that logic was used in 09 and soon after proven wrong. pretty clear he
has chronic tendinitis. comes and goes.

> Not only will other players TOY with him on court now, they'll
>rat-tail his bare ass in the locker room. That is, until he asks for
>more.

bob

[Gracchus]

On Aug 12, 9:04 am, bob <stein...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 07:23:22 -0700 (PDT), Gracchus

> >That could be one reason for Rafa not playing. I think another is that
> >Rosol exposed him as a pussy and he's afraid to face the competition
> >now.

> that logic was used in 09 and soon after proven wrong.

Are you talking about Soderling trouncing him? Completely different
situation.

> pretty clear he
> has chronic tendinitis. comes and goes.

Yes, it comes and goes depending on when he needs an excuse.

[drew]

On Aug 11, 9:04 pm, bob <stein...@comcast.net> wrote:

> that logic was used in 09 and soon after proven wrong. pretty clear he
> has chronic tendinitis. comes and goes.

It's 3 years later. 3 more years of wear and tear on the body. This
year I've
been commenting that Rafa looks stiff out there. It's as if there's
more than the
knees bothering him.

But this is nothing compared to the lack of enjoyment he seems to get
from the
game these days. I say little wonder with the expectations, the
injuries and so on
but it's real enough. If this guy can come back and have success on
hard court at
the USO, I'll be mighty surprised....I dont mean this year but ever.

[bob]

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:18:29 -0700 (PDT), Gracchus
<cernu...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Aug 12, 9:04 am, bob <stein...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 07:23:22 -0700 (PDT), Gracchus
>
>> >That could be one reason for Rafa not playing. I think another is that
>> >Rosol exposed him as a pussy and he's afraid to face the competition
>> >now.
>
>> that logic was used in 09 and soon after proven wrong.
>
>Are you talking about Soderling trouncing him? Completely different
>situation.

back then the claim was that soderling exposed rafa as a pussy and yet
rafa came back to his best year - 2010...

>> pretty clear he has chronic tendinitis. comes and goes.
>
>Yes, it comes and goes depending on when he needs an excuse.

well, in his defense, he actually SKIPS tournaments, in fact, months
at a time. losing, then blaming injury is different animal IMO, then
actually taking time off.

bob

[bob]

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:08:37 -0700 (PDT), drew <dr...@technologist.com>
wrote:

i think he still has clay for another year, maybe 2.

he seemed to be enjoying himself quite a lot after FO. winning is the
difference between enjoying it, and it becoming a grind.

bob