No such thing as a 'perfect' list... all comes down to (hopefully
informed) subjective judgement... I can see putting Graf #1 and Fed #2
and Laver #3... that's a solid top 3... not mine... but one can
certainly see how others see the history of tennis that way...
On Oct 6, 2:21 am, Patrick Kehoe <pke...@telus.net> wrote:
> No such thing as a 'perfect' list... all comes down to (hopefully
> informed) subjective judgement... I can see putting Graf #1 and Fed #2
> and Laver #3... that's a solid top 3... not mine... but one can
> certainly see how others see the history of tennis that way...
> P
It's fun to debate this until the cows come home isn't it? :)
Especially when you're allowed to mix men and women's tennis together!
There is a big problem however comparing the skill set that Graf had
compared to Federer and Laver.
Sure, Graf was able to accumulate a humongous amount of slams in
singles.
But shot for shot, does she even come close to the skill and variety
Federer (has) and Laver (had) ?
In that respect, it's clearly no contest.
Federer has more skill and variety in his forehand alone than Graf had
in her entire game.
> On Oct 6, 2:21 am, Patrick Kehoe <pke...@telus.net> wrote:
> > No such thing as a 'perfect' list... all comes down to (hopefully
> > informed) subjective judgement... I can see putting Graf #1 and Fed #2
> > and Laver #3... that's a solid top 3... not mine... but one can
> > certainly see how others see the history of tennis that way...
> > P
> It's fun to debate this until the cows come home isn't it? :)
> Especially when you're allowed to mix men and women's tennis together!
> There is a big problem however comparing the skill set that Graf had
> compared to Federer and Laver.
> Sure, Graf was able to accumulate a humongous amount of slams in
> singles.
> But shot for shot, does she even come close to the skill and variety
> Federer (has) and Laver (had) ?
> In that respect, it's clearly no contest.
> Federer has more skill and variety in his forehand alone than Graf had
> in her entire game.
I am a big Graf fan, but suffice to say you are overreaching by having her above Fed in terms of "greatness". Any such comparison between the mens and womens game is pretty bonkers....they are two very different arenas and the lists should never mix save for a bit of pub banter.
> On Oct 6, 2:21 am, Patrick Kehoe <pke...@telus.net> wrote:
> > No such thing as a 'perfect' list... all comes down to (hopefully
> > informed) subjective judgement... I can see putting Graf #1 and Fed #2
> > and Laver #3... that's a solid top 3... not mine... but one can
> > certainly see how others see the history of tennis that way...
> > P
> It's fun to debate this until the cows come home isn't it? :)
> Especially when you're allowed to mix men and women's tennis together!
> There is a big problem however comparing the skill set that Graf had
> compared to Federer and Laver.
> Sure, Graf was able to accumulate a humongous amount of slams in
> singles.
> But shot for shot, does she even come close to the skill and variety
> Federer (has) and Laver (had) ?
> In that respect, it's clearly no contest.
> Federer has more skill and variety in his forehand alone than Graf had
> in her entire game.
Sure Fed does... but pro tennis is about winning tournaments... and
Graf did that at the highest level available to her as anyone ever
has...
I agree with you though... given lists and having fun in ranking the
'unmatchable', in the neverneverland of hypothetical all time
rankings Federer's supreme, so far... and he's not finished yet...
there may be more to come for Federer...
