DIAZ ARCE BEEN TRADED TO METROSTARS?
MIGUEL GOMEZ
THE METROSTARS IS THIS TRUE OR FALSE?
?
Chuck Pearson
shouting, and usenet folk generally don't dig it.
that said...
MIGUEL GOMEZ (MIGUEL-N...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: MY FRIEND IS TELLING ME THAT RAUL DIAZ ARCE WAS TRADED TO
: THE METROSTARS IS THIS TRUE OR FALSE?
as of right now, false. however, i've heard it rumored that diaz arce is
on the shopping block. i wouldn't be surprised if that panned out.
chuck
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That's Salvadorean double-trouble: Diaz Arce/Cerritos!
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Chuck Pearson wrote in message <780c8a$c...@login.freenet.columbus.oh.us>...
Chuck Pearson
: I just heard Diaz Arce is being shipped to San Jose Clash .
: That's Salvadorean double-trouble: Diaz Arce/Cerritos!
yup. that *has* panned out. it turned out that our friend mr. gomez was
half-right - in a manouver that could only happen in MLS, the revolution
traded diaz arce to the metro for giovannia savarese (boy, how does the
empire feel right now?), and then the metro turned right around and
shipped diaz arce *and* marcelo vega to san jose for "future
considerations" [read: waldo can join bora in east rutherford if he
wants, and he can take that stinkin' salary of his with him].
if you're san jose, you've got to be pumped about this. if wynalda
stays, diaz arce could be just the foil he needs to get going; if he
goes, you're not left high and dry with respect to scorers and you get a
ton of room under the salary cap besides. having diaz arce *and* vega
*and* cerritos on the same field can't be all bad, either, and if eddie
lewis keeps improving over the next couple of years the way he's improved
over the last couple, san jose might be able to put a ton of balls into
the net.
now all san jose needs is a defense more sophisticated than john doyle
hacking everybody to death, and they're a contender, much as it chills me
to say it. 8-)
Dennis Wayne Rodriguez
he has. 18+ goals every season with plenty of assists. Plus he
led the league in minutes played last season. Iron man, proven scorer,
in fact leading scorer in MLS over 3 seasons. Why trade him?
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cpea...@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Chuck Pearson) wrote:
>
> yup. that *has* panned out. it turned out that our friend mr. gomez was
> half-right - in a manouver that could only happen in MLS, the revolution
> traded diaz arce to the metro for giovannia savarese (boy, how does the
> empire feel right now?), and then the metro turned right around and
> shipped diaz arce *and* marcelo vega to san jose for "future
> considerations" [read: waldo can join bora in east rutherford if he
> wants, and he can take that stinkin' salary of his with him].
>
Given the number of WC94 players on the Metrostars, you'd think that'd they
would go on tour with the Rolling Stones and the Monkees. You think they'll
ty to acquire Cle Kooiman too?
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Chuck Pearson
: Given the number of WC94 players on the Metrostars, you'd think that'd they
: would go on tour with the Rolling Stones and the Monkees. You think they'll
: ty to acquire Cle Kooiman too?
i think kooiman is out of contract and available. wouldn't surprise me,
honestly.
i thought columbus was going to pick him up for a bit there, but coach
fitz exercised his better judgement. 8-)
Chuck Pearson
: What's the deal with trading Diaz-Arce? The man can score, and score
: he has. 18+ goals every season with plenty of assists. Plus he
: led the league in minutes played last season. Iron man, proven scorer,
: in fact leading scorer in MLS over 3 seasons. Why trade him?
well, the boatload of goals he scored last season didn't help the rev for
beans.
i think it's a combination of things. the guy is an international, so he
counts against those numbers, and based on his couple of years in DCU
tearing up the league, he will also command top dollar, so teams with
salary cap trouble can't keep him on-board.
i think there were also personality conflicts brewing with zenga that
were nipped in the bud, and savarese is a striker more in tune with the
way that zenga will want to play.
in the end, i think the rev are making the right move, and san jose is
making an equally good move. the question is, why the metro would simply
allow diaz arce to pass through their hands...
Thomas Scott Moyles
> Dennis Wayne Rodriguez (dwro...@unity.ncsu.edu) wrote:
> : What's the deal with trading Diaz-Arce? The man can score, and score
> : he has. 18+ goals every season with plenty of assists. Plus he
> : led the league in minutes played last season. Iron man, proven scorer,
> : in fact leading scorer in MLS over 3 seasons. Why trade him?
>
> well, the boatload of goals he scored last season didn't help the rev for
> beans.
Yup. I've heard from several Revs fans that despite all the goals he
scored, that he didn't really help the team. This may sound ridiculous,
but when you're losing 5-1, does it really matter who scored that one
goal?
> in the end, i think the rev are making the right move, and san jose is
> making an equally good move. the question is, why the metro would simply
> allow diaz arce to pass through their hands...
The revs made an okay move, I can see them struggling up top without
anybody besides Sava threatening the goal, but that cap room will be
nice. Too bad they didn't open up an international slot.
The Mutts let Arce go because he's an international. Same with Vega. Now
they have some space to play with in terms of getting some good new
players. The other consideration is they got an allocation. At this
point, they're probably going to get Wynalda, which makes sense. Veteran
striker, not international, and most importantly, Bora is familiar with
him from the years with the national team. My problem with this is if the
Mutts can't get any service up top. The idea of both Wynalda and Hurtado
being grumpy at the same time is hardly an appealing one.
For the Clash, I'm going to be blatantly optimistic and say it's a great
move. Why? We get a much more productive, healthier forward in Diaz Arce
who also happens to have experience playing on the El Salvador national
team with our best offensive player, Ronald Cerritos. If those two can
form a partnership up top, look out. And we get the first real center
midfielder we've had in our entire existence in Vega. In my mind, Vega is
the more important portion of the trade. His performance will have more
of an impact on the Clash than any other player, including Diaz Arce. If
he can truly be a midfield leader, I expect the Clash to not only get
back to the playoffs, but to be a serious contender.
(I can dream, can't I?)
Thomas Moyles http://www2.ucsc.edu/people/eject142
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Chuck Pearson wrote:
> yup. that *has* panned out. it turned out that our friend mr. gomez was
> half-right - in a manouver that could only happen in MLS, the revolution
> traded diaz arce to the metro for giovannia savarese (boy, how does the
> empire feel right now?), and then the metro turned right around and shipped
> diaz arce *and* marcelo vega to san jose for "future considerations" [read:
> waldo can join bora in east rutherford if he wants, and he can take that
> stinkin' salary of his with him].
>
I think it's pretty certain that Wynalda will be sent to the MetroStars, but
it probably won't be announced until he finishes his season at Leon. But if
he gets hurt at Leon . . . ugh.
> if you're san jose, you've got to be pumped about this. if wynalda stays,
> diaz arce could be just the foil he needs to get going; if he goes, you're
> not left high and dry with respect to scorers and you get a ton of room
> under the salary cap besides. having diaz arce *and* vega *and* cerritos on
> the same field can't be all bad, either, and if eddie lewis keeps improving
> over the next couple of years the way he's improved over the last couple,
> san jose might be able to put a ton of balls into
> the net.
It will be fun to see Cerritos and Diaz Arce together. And hopefully it will
increase excitement in the stands. The Salvadoran fans I've met at Spartan
are great people; it would be good to see more of them there.
Vega is no Etcheverry or Nowak, but he's better than Victor Mella or Martin
Vasquez, so the Clash midfield will see some good improvement. I'm still
waiting to see how Quinn fills out the half-dozen or so roster spots that
remain open.
> now all san jose needs is a defense more sophisticated than john doyle
> hacking everybody to death,
How about Richard Gough hacking everybody to death?
> and they're a contender, much as it chills me
> to say it. 8-)
Brrrrrr.... maybe in 2000.
--noah
Dennis Wayne Rodriguez
: On 22 Jan 1999, Chuck Pearson wrote:
: > well, the boatload of goals he scored last season didn't help the rev for
: > beans.
:
: Yup. I've heard from several Revs fans that despite all the goals he
: scored, that he didn't really help the team. This may sound ridiculous,
: but when you're losing 5-1, does it really matter who scored that one
: goal?
I think this is short-sighted thinking. If the Revs shore up
their porous defense, they will now lose 1-0, as they now have no one
to score up front. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I buy the other argument mentioned, which was tension between
Zenga and Diaz-Arce. Shame for the Revs.
Thomas Scott Moyles
> Thomas Scott Moyles (ejec...@cats.ucsc.edu) wrote:
> :
> : scored, that he didn't really help the team. This may sound ridiculous,
> : but when you're losing 5-1, does it really matter who scored that one
> : goal?
>
> I think this is short-sighted thinking. If the Revs shore up
> their porous defense, they will now lose 1-0, as they now have no one
> to score up front. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
From what I heard, the knock on Diaz Arce is that he was scoring in the
blowout games, but dissappeared during the close ones. In other words,
the Revs fans I talked to would believe that they would still lose 1-0,
because Diaz Arce would play himself out of the game. There's a theory
that he scores mainly when teams start to play sloppy because of a lead.
All of this is pure hearsay, although I must say that the two Revs games
I saw last year, they lost both, and Diaz Arce scored in both.
Kevin Cabral
is that the Clash and Revs are now owned by the same owner. So they are
one business entity in a sense and resources are being redistributed
across each division of the business in the off-season.
- Kevin