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From: "milivella" <milive...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 19:08:34 +0200
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You have three days to select one footballer from your personal list below
and secretly send his name at milive...@gmail.com . Then the match will
begin.

[club teams as of the beginning of the 2011-12 season]

Joachim Parsch's list:
Dawson, Michael - England - Tottenham - 18.11.1983
Hleb, Aliaksandr - Belarus - Wolfsburg - 01.05.1981
Basa, Marko - Montenegro / Serbia - LOSC Lille M tropole - 29.12.1982
Samba, Christopher - Congo / France - Blackburn - 28.03.1984
N'Zonzi, Steven - France / DR Congo - Blackburn - 15.12.1988
J - Brazil - Internacional - 20.03.1987
Bolatti, Mario - Argentina / Italy - Internacional - 17.02.1985
Pieters, Erik - Holland - PSV - 07.08.1988
Ayew, Jordan - Ghana / France - OM - 11.09.1991
B ria, Franck - France / Madagascar - LOSC Lille M tropole - 23.05.1983
Iraizoz, Gorka - Spain / Pays Basque - Athletic - 06.03.1981
Mondrag n, Faryd - Colombia / Lebanon - Philadelphia - 21.06.1971
Thiago Silva - Brazil - A.C. Milan - 22.09.1984
Debuchy, Mathieu - France - LOSC Lille M tropole - 28.07.1985
Brighi, Matteo - Italy - Atalanta - 14.02.1981
Valdez, Nelson - Paraguay - Rubin - 28.11.1983
Podolski, Lukas - Germany / Poland - K ln - 04.06.1985
Bonucci, Leonardo - Italy - Juventus - 01.05.1987
J skel inen, Jussi - Finland - Bolton - 19.04.1975
Banovic, Ivica - Croatia - Cottbus - 02.08.1980
Kayal, Beram - Israel - Celtic - 02.05.1988
Wilshere, Jack - England - Arsenal - 01.01.1992
Gera, Zolt n - Hungary - West Brom - 22.04.1979
Helmes, Patrick - Germany - Wolfsburg - 01.03.1984

MH's list:
Suazo, David - Honduras / Italy - Catania - 05.11.1979
Aquilani, Alberto - Italy - A.C. Milan - 07.07.1984
Brunt, Chris - N.Ireland - West Brom - 14.12.1984
Lens, Jeremain - Holland - PSV - 24.11.1987
Tunchev, Aleksandar - Bulgaria - Leicester - 10.07.1981
Droguett, Hugo - Chile - Cruz Azul - 02.09.1982
Mongongu, C dric - DR Congo / France - Evian TG FC - 22.06.1989
Rog rio Ceni - Brazil / Italy - S o Paulo - 22.01.1973
Camara, Zoumana - France / Senegal - Paris Saint-Germain - 03.04.1979
Jovetic, Stevan - Montenegro / Serbia - Fiorentina - 02.11.1989
Cannavaro, Paolo - Italy - Napoli - 26.06.1981
Zambrotta, Gianluca - Italy - A.C. Milan - 19.02.1977
Navarro, Fernando - Spain - Sevilla - 25.06.1982
Eduardo - Portugal - SLB - 19.09.1982
Amauri - Italy / Brazil - Juventus - 03.06.1980
Govou, Sidney - France / Benin - Evian TG FC - 27.07.1979
Beerens, Roy - Holland - AZ - 22.12.1987
Sahar, Ben - Israel / Poland - AJ Auxerre - 10.08.1989
Demb l , Moussa - Belgium / Mali - Fulham - 17.07.1987
Kon , Arouna - Ivory Coast - Levante - 11.11.1983
Polanski, Eugen - Poland / Germany - Mainz - 17.03.1986
Spahic, Emir - Bosnia & Herz. / Croatia - Sevilla - 18.08.1980
Pouplin, Simon - France - - - 28.05.1985
Gomes - Brazil - Tottenham - 15.02.1981

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From: MH <MHnos...@ucalgary.ca>
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 11:44:18 -0600
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On 12-08-02 11:08 AM, milivella wrote:

> You have three days to select one footballer from your personal list
> below and secretly send his name at milive...@gmail.com . Then the match
> will begin.

Is Joachim not away and out of contact for about two weeks ?


 
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From: Joachim Parsch <s...@bunuel.franken.de>
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 08:20:43 +0200
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MH schrieb:

> On 12-08-02 11:08 AM, milivella wrote:
> > You have three days to select one footballer from your personal list
> > below and secretly send his name at milive...@gmail.com . Then the match
> > will begin.

> Is Joachim not away and out of contact for about two weeks ?

I am indeed. I'm the old-fashioned type, so I spend
my holidays (Toscana, BTW) without any portable online
gimmick (wouldn't know how to use an iPhone anyway).

We could postpone the match and I would have no problem playing
matchdays 2 and 3 in parallel.

Joachim


 
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From: "milivella" <milive...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 11:13:01 +0200
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OK, you both have selected your footballer. Joachim asks first. Notice that
there's no deadline for asking or answering. Well, not as long as I won't
add it, and I won't do as long as Joachim is away (so practically the match
is in stand-by).

Let me repeat the rules... Please read them, because they'll be strictly
enforced.

The object of the game is to be the first to determine which footballer
one's opponent has selected.

Players alternate asking various yes or no questions (such that the answer
is objectively verifiable) to eliminate candidates:
- Questions about series of numbers or letters (i.e. including words such as
"higher" "lower" "between" etc.) won't be allowed (e.g. "was he born before
1985?").
- Questions including the word "or" won't be allowed (e.g. "is he either
from Brazil, Italy or Germany?").

When you're ready to guess who the Mystery Player is, make your guess on
your turn, instead of asking a question (both "I guess that the player is X"
and "is the player X?" are considered guessing). If your guess is right, you
win the game. If it's wrong, you lose. But if the second player guesses
correctly just after the first player, it's a draw.

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 More options Aug 3 2012, 6:18 am
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From: Joachim Parsch <s...@bunuel.franken.de>
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 12:18:39 +0200
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milivella schrieb:

> OK, you both have selected your footballer.

Eh? I have not selected anybody. Who's that clone of mine that's
running around loose? ;-)

> Joachim asks first. Notice that
> there's no deadline for asking or answering. Well, not as long as I won't
> add it, and I won't do as long as Joachim is away (so practically the match
> is in stand-by).

Ok, that's fine with me (and I hope that MH also has no problems
with that). You will receive an e-mail with my player in due course.

Joachim


 
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Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 12:19:45 +0200
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Joachim Parsch schrieb:

> Ok, that's fine with me (and I hope that MH also has no problems
> with that). You will receive an e-mail with my player in due course.

The mail should be available now.

Joachim


 
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Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 22:17:02 +0200
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Hi MH,

I'm back, so here is my first question...

Am 03.08.2012 11:13, schrieb milivella:

Would your player be eligible to play for a nation not
located in Europe?
(Europe, not UEFA, so Israel should be considered as
outside Europe)

Joachim


 
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 More options Aug 18 2012, 6:30 pm
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Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:30:25 -0600
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On 12-08-18 2:17 PM, Joachim Parsch wrote:

I don't know. I can't remember who my player is.  Must have it written
down somewhere

 
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 More options Aug 18 2012, 6:34 pm
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Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:34:57 -0600
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On 12-08-18 2:17 PM, Joachim Parsch wrote:

No.

Did a nation which your player is eligible to play for participate in
the Euro 2012 tournament in Poland/Ukraine ?


 
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 More options Aug 19 2012, 5:26 am
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Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:26:13 +0200
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Am 19.08.2012 00:34, schrieb MH:

Yes.

Does your player play in the league of a country, that played
in Group C of Euro 2012 (Italy, Spain, Ireland, Croatia)?
(according to the list above, of course)

Joachim


 
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 More options Aug 20 2012, 5:07 pm
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Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 15:07:22 -0600
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On 12-08-19 3:26 AM, Joachim Parsch wrote:

No

Does your player currently* play in a league in a country for which he
is eligible to play for the national team.

* note that Milivella has the teams wrong for one or two players.


 
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Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 09:15:32 +0200
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MH schrieb:

Yes.

Does your player currently[1] play in the league of a football
association, for which he is currently[2] eligible to
their national team?
[1] Pouplin has found a place at Sochaux now
[2] Polanski is currently not eligible for Germany, because he has
already played competitive matches for Poland

For the record: I think that MH has the following players left:
Dawson, Michael - England - Tottenham - 18.11.1983
Pieters, Erik - Holland - PSV - 07.08.1988
Ayew, Jordan - Ghana / France - OM - 11.09.1991
B ria, Franck - France / Madagascar - LOSC Lille M tropole - 23.05.1983
Iraizoz, Gorka - Spain / Pays Basque - Athletic - 06.03.1981
Debuchy, Mathieu - France - LOSC Lille M tropole - 28.07.1985
Brighi, Matteo - Italy - Atalanta - 14.02.1981
Bonucci, Leonardo - Italy - Juventus - 01.05.1987
Wilshere, Jack - England - Arsenal - 01.01.1992
Helmes, Patrick - Germany - Wolfsburg - 01.03.1984
(don't know whether this list is correct, but my answers were - I
checked the current club of my player)

...while I have these left:
Brunt, Chris - N.Ireland - West Brom - 14.12.1984
Lens, Jeremain - Holland - PSV - 24.11.1987
Tunchev, Aleksandar - Bulgaria - Leicester - 10.07.1981
Eduardo - Portugal - SLB - 19.09.1982
Beerens, Roy - Holland - AZ - 22.12.1987
Polanski, Eugen - Poland / Germany - Mainz - 17.03.1986
Pouplin, Simon - France - - - 28.05.1985

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Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 10:27:19 -0600
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On 12-08-21 1:15 AM, Joachim Parsch wrote:

No.

> [1] Pouplin has found a place at Sochaux now
> [2] Polanski is currently not eligible for Germany, because he has
> already played competitive matches for Poland

> For the record: I think that MH has the following players left:
> Dawson, Michael - England - Tottenham - 18.11.1983
> Pieters, Erik - Holland - PSV - 07.08.1988
> Ayew, Jordan - Ghana / France - OM - 11.09.1991

Should not be on there as he has played for Ghana and thereforre is no
longer eligible to play for France.  I asked the question in the present
tense "is eligible"

Has your player ever been on a team that was won the major domestic cup
in any Football Association (i.e. received a cup winner's medal).


 
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Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 08:19:07 +0200
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MH schrieb:

That leaves me with:
Brunt, Chris - N.Ireland - West Brom - 14.12.1984
Tunchev, Aleksandar - Bulgaria - Leicester - 10.07.1981
Eduardo - Portugal - SLB - 19.09.1982
Polanski, Eugen - Poland / Germany - Mainz - 17.03.1986

...and a probable draw, I think.
(both my 7-6 split, and the 4-3 split went against me...)

Does your player play in a British league?

> > [1] Pouplin has found a place at Sochaux now
> > [2] Polanski is currently not eligible for Germany, because he has
> > already played competitive matches for Poland

> > For the record: I think that MH has the following players left:

> > Dawson, Michael - England - Tottenham - 18.11.1983
> > Pieters, Erik - Holland - PSV - 07.08.1988
> > Ayew, Jordan - Ghana / France - OM - 11.09.1991

> Should not be on there as he has played for Ghana and thereforre is no
> longer eligible to play for France.  I asked the question in the present
> tense "is eligible"

That could have gone wrong, as I interpreted it as "could have played for"
or something like that (that's why I used "currently" in my own question).
But: my answer would have been the same if I had taken this into account.
Ayew is not the player you're looking for.

> Has your player ever been on a team that was won the major domestic cup
> in any Football Association (i.e. received a cup winner's medal).

Yes.
Which may leave you with 4 as well (I have not checked closely).

Joachim


 
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Joachim Parsch:

> MH schrieb:

>> Has your player ever been on a team that was won the major domestic cup
>> in any Football Association (i.e. received a cup winner's medal).

> Yes.

Gentle reminder for MH: it's your turn.

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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:30:05 -0600
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On 12-08-29 5:07 AM, milivella wrote:

> Joachim Parsch:

>> MH schrieb:

>>> Has your player ever been on a team that was won the major domestic cup
>>> in any Football Association (i.e. received a cup winner's medal).

>> Yes.

> Gentle reminder for MH: it's your turn.

> --
> Cheers
> milivella

Was away for a while.

 
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On 12-08-22 12:19 AM, Joachim Parsch wrote:

Yes. I thought I already answered that.


 
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On 12-08-22 12:19 AM, Joachim Parsch wrote:

Has your player been capped internationally for a nation that is an
official FIFA member ?


 
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Am 30.08.2012 21:19, schrieb MH:

Yes.

Does your player play for West Brom?

Joachim


 
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On 12-08-30 1:35 PM, Joachim Parsch wrote:

Yes.

Does yours play for PSV ?


 
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MH schrieb:

No.

REALLY VERY ABSOLUTE OFFICIAL GUESS:
Is it Chris Brunt?

Joachim


 
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On 12-08-31 12:44 AM, Joachim Parsch wrote:

Yes.  And my 50/50 official guess:

is your player Matteo Brighi ?


 
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Subject: Re: Joachim Parsch vs. MH (Guess Who? MD2M2)
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Am 31.08.2012 20:21, schrieb MH:

Oh - I actually thought that the last question
brought you from 2 to 1 player as well.

> is your player Matteo Brighi ?

The answer is...
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No.
I selected Mathieu Debuchy.

Please check my answers, I hope, I haven't overlooked
something.

Anyway, thanks for your patience and better luck in
your next matches!

Joachim


 
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