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Enzo

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Dec 23, 2009, 10:15:01 AM12/23/09
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/dec/23/fifa-world-cup-stadium-cow-slaughter

Who wants to watch a game after such an unnecessary event?

Abubakr

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Dec 23, 2009, 10:34:48 AM12/23/09
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On 24 Dec, 02:15, Enzo <s_debgu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/dec/23/fifa-world-cup-stadium-co...

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> Who wants to watch a game after such an unnecessary event?

What will they do with the slaughtered animals?

Lord of War

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Dec 23, 2009, 11:49:13 AM12/23/09
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> Who wants to watch a game after such an unnecessary event?

Again, why is the World Cup being held in that stink hole of a
country????? South Africa is at least 100 years behind the rest of the
world.

Benny

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Dec 23, 2009, 12:50:34 PM12/23/09
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> Subject : Just say No
> From : s_deb...@yahoo.com

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/dec/23/fifa-world-cup-stadium-cow-slaughter
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> Who wants to watch a game after such an unnecessary event?

This won't go down too well in India.


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Bob

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Dec 23, 2009, 1:02:55 PM12/23/09
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Enzo wrote:
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/dec/23/fifa-world-cup-stadium-cow-slaughter
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> Who wants to watch a game after such an unnecessary event?

Why should the rest of the world butt in what SA does with its stadia?


Alkamista

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Dec 23, 2009, 1:11:59 PM12/23/09
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> Who wants to watch a game after such an unnecessary event?

If I understand this correctly, this may not necessarily have to be
before a game. They are proposing the sacrifice as a "blessing ritual"
for each WC venue. The time is not specified, but it think the
implication is that this could happen any time prior to a stadium
first being used.

Either way, it's a major PR situation for FIFA. Animal rights groups
are already calling attention to the issue, while some elements in the
SA government are going to claim a domestic right to do this. I think
FIFA will end up winning this one, if push comes to shove.

Alkamista

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Dec 23, 2009, 1:19:46 PM12/23/09
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On Dec 23, 12:02 pm, "Bob" <B...@Bob.com> wrote:
> Enzo wrote:
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/dec/23/fifa-world-cup-stadium-co...

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>
>
> > Who wants to watch a game after such an unnecessary event?
>
> Why should the rest of the world butt in what SA does with its stadia?

As I said in my other post, the timing will be key. If this is done in
a small ceremony days or weeks before a WC game is played at a venue,
then FIFA may have to submit on grounds of this being a local custom
which is not actively interfering with the competition. If on the
other hand this is being proposed as part of the pre-game ceremonies,
FIFA will almost certainly not give in and and be within their rights
to not do so.

Bob

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Dec 23, 2009, 1:42:07 PM12/23/09
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The article says that it is a ceremony to be performed at each stadium ahead
of the tournament, which makes me wonder why FIFA had to be involved at all.


Jack Hollis

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Dec 23, 2009, 4:38:42 PM12/23/09
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On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 08:49:13 -0800 (PST), Lord of War
<pen...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Have you ever been to a bull fight in Spain?

ken.o...@gmail.com

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Dec 23, 2009, 5:49:25 PM12/23/09
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> Who wants to watch a game after such an unnecessary event?

Are you vegetarian?

Lord of War

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Dec 24, 2009, 10:17:52 AM12/24/09
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On Dec 23, 4:38 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 08:49:13 -0800 (PST), Lord of War
>
> <penc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >On Dec 23, 10:15=A0am, Enzo <s_debgu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/dec/23/fifa-world-cup-stadium-co...
>
> >> Who wants to watch a game after such an unnecessary event?
>
> >Again, why is the World Cup being held in that stink hole of a
> >country????? South Africa is at least 100 years behind the rest of the
> >world.
>
> Have you ever been to a bull fight in Spain?

No I have not. What does a bull fight have to do with football?????
Killing a cow before a game also has nothing to do with football. This
next World Cup is going to be riddled with crap like this violence and
murders. Blatter made an error going there. South Africa was not ready
for this.

Manx Gunner

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Dec 24, 2009, 1:09:27 PM12/24/09
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On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 07:17:52 -0800 (PST), Lord of War wrote...

> next World Cup is going to be riddled with crap like this violence and
> murders. Blatter made an error going there. South Africa was not ready
> for this.

Better there than a real dump... like Pisa, for example.

Jack Hollis

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Dec 24, 2009, 1:54:20 PM12/24/09
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On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 07:17:52 -0800 (PST), Lord of War
<pen...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Dec 23, 4:38=A0pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...@aol.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 08:49:13 -0800 (PST), Lord of War
>>
>> <penc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>

>> >On Dec 23, 10:15=3DA0am, Enzo <s_debgu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/dec/23/fifa-world-cup-stadium-co..=


>.
>>
>> >> Who wants to watch a game after such an unnecessary event?
>>
>> >Again, why is the World Cup being held in that stink hole of a
>> >country????? South Africa is at least 100 years behind the rest of the
>> >world.
>>
>> Have you ever been to a bull fight in Spain?
>
>No I have not. What does a bull fight have to do with football?????
>Killing a cow before a game also has nothing to do with football. This
>next World Cup is going to be riddled with crap like this violence and
>murders. Blatter made an error going there. South Africa was not ready
>for this.

Have you ever been to South Africa? Perhaps it's not as "backward" as
you think. Do you think that the practice of animal sacrifice does
not go on in the US and Europe. Is ritual sacrifice, practiced in
South Africa, as barbaric as bullfighting? Do you eat meat? Have you
ever been to a slaughter house?

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