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Binder Dundat  
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 More options Nov 7 2012, 5:33 pm
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: Binder Dundat <dun...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 14:33:07 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 7 2012 5:33 pm
Subject: UCL Tables day 4

Group A - November 6 2012       Team    P       W       D       L       GD      Pts
1       FC Porto        4       3       1       0       4       10
2       Paris St Germain        4       3       0       1       8       9
3       Dynamo Kiev     4       1       1       2       -2      4
4       Dinamo Zagreb   4       0       0       4       -10     0

Porto and PSG are as good as qualified

Group B - November 6 2012       Team    P       W       D       L       GD      Pts
1       Schalke 04      4       2       2       0       3       8
2       Arsenal         4       2       1       1       1       7
3       Olympiacos      4       2       0       2       0       6
4       Montpellier     4       0       1       3       -4      1

Still 3 teams with a chance.
If both Schalke and Arsenal win at home next matchday they are
through. Arsenal should beat Montpellier at home, but Olympiakos might
be a tougher game. Lets say a fraw for Schalke, then they must get at
least a draw v Montpellier. Of course if olympaikos wins both games
they are through and Arsenal could be knocked out, assuming both
Schalke and Arsenal beat Montpellier.

 Anyhow, it is still open enough for me to not project a winner in
this group. though polls say 94% of Lily White Spurs male fans between
the ages of 16 to 65, think Olmpiakos will win both games.  (Yeah i
was watching CNN last night during the election, actually I was
switching around the channels, just to watch the different
projections, like Fox always had Romney with a bigger lead vs CNN)

Group C - November 6 2012       Team    P       W       D       L       GD      Pts
1       Malaga  4       3       1       0       7       10
2       AC Milan        4       1       2       1       0       5
3       Anderlecht      4       1       1       2       -3      4
4       Zenit St Petersburg     4       1       0       3       -4      3

Malaga are through! Take that Man City! First year!  You assume Milan
will advance , but not going to make any projections in this group
yet.

Group D - November 6 2012       Team    P       W       D       L       GD      Pts
1       Borussia Dortmund       4       2       2       0       2       8
2       Real Madrid     4       2       1       1       3       7
3       Ajax    4       1       1       2       -2      4
4       Manchester City         4       0       2       2       -3      2

We project that Man City will not advance. Projections show, Dortmund
and Madrid qualifying to the next round.

Group E - November 7 2012       Team    P       W       D       L       GD      Pts
1       Shakhtar Donetsk        4       2       1       1       2       7
2       Chelsea         4       2       1       1       4       7
3       Juventus        4       1       3       0       4       6
4       FC Nordsjaelland        4       0       1       3       -10     1

Shaktar really did not deserve to lose today, in fact they should have
won. And that is just not according to our polling of lily white male
spurs fans.

Juve have the tougher two games to play, but they never lose, but two
draws will not be enough.  Too early for projections here.

Group F - November 7 2012       Team    P       W       D       L       GD      Pts
1       Bayern Munich   4       3       0       1       5       9
2       Valencia        4       3       0       1       6       9
3       BATE Borisov    4       2       0       2       -1      6
4       Lille   4       0       0       4       -10     0

I am just going to go with the early results and project bayern and
valencia as qualifying.

Group G - November 7 2012       Team    P       W       D       L       GD      Pts
1       Barcelona       4       3       0       1       3       9
2       Celtic  4       2       1       1       1       7
3       Benfica         4       1       1       2       -1      4
4       Spartak Moscow  4       1       0       3       -3      3

Are the Human Growth Hormones wearing off? everyone can still qualify,
but we will say Barca have qualified and it is too close to call the
second qualifier.

Group H - November 7 2012       Team    P       W       D       L       GD      Pts
1       Manchester United       4       4       0       0       5       12
2       Galatasaray     4       1       1       2       -1      4
3       CFR Cluj        4       1       1       2       -1      4
4       Braga   4       1       0       3       -3      3

Are Man U the only team that have won all their games? Granted it is
an easy group, but still, that is impressive for a  team that can
barely string two passes togethor?  I guess buying the leagues top
scorer is a good strategy,  no matter how much grey hair he has.
Not even going to attempt to project a second place team in this
group.


 
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The Scrutineer  
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 More options Nov 8 2012, 6:04 am
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From: "The Scrutineer" <vla...@bigpond.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 22:04:17 +1100
Local: Thurs, Nov 8 2012 6:04 am
Subject: Re: UCL Tables day 4

"Binder Dundat"  wrote in message

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> Group B - November 6 2012 Team P W D L GD Pts
> 1 Schalke 04 4 2 2 0 3 8
> 2 Arsenal 4 2 1 1 1 7
> 3 Olympiacos 4 2 0 2 0 6
> 4 Montpellier 4 0 1 3 -4 1

Arsenal's record in Eastern Europe is absolutely diabolical, but generally
speaking, Wenger plays a weakened line up... his arm will be forced this
year, unless Arsenal and Schalke are already through...

Hypothetical
Arsenal v Montpellier
Schalke v Olympiacos

Arsenal should beat Montpellier which will mean the Germans v the Greeks is
essentially a knockout... with the winner take all... why? See below...

Olympiacos v Arsenal
Montpellier v Schalke

Arsenal have a horrid record in Greece, actually away in general, but rest
assured, Montpellier will be absolutely up for the Schalke match, especially
with what happened in Germany between the coaches...

Predicted table
Arsenal 13
Schalke 11
Olympiacos 6
Montpellier 4


 
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The Scrutineer  
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 More options Nov 8 2012, 6:41 am
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From: "The Scrutineer" <vla...@bigpond.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 22:41:21 +1100
Local: Thurs, Nov 8 2012 6:41 am
Subject: Re: UCL Tables day 4

"anders t"  wrote in message

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The worry is that it's realistic...

http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2012/matches/round=200...

The other worry this year is placing first or second guarantees nothing,
especially with Milan, Real Madrid, PSG likely to finish as runners up...

Anyway, still in Europa, a Europa/League Cup double!!!


 
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The Doctor  
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 More options Nov 8 2012, 8:28 am
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From: doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 13:28:54 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Thurs, Nov 8 2012 8:28 am
Subject: Re: UCL Tables day 4
In article <k7g3ji$c7...@dont-email.me>,

Hoping you are correct TS.
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Clément  
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 More options Nov 15 2012, 1:04 pm
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From: Clément <lcmello.lis...@terra.com.br>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:06:01 -0300
Local: Thurs, Nov 15 2012 2:06 pm
Subject: Re: UCL Tables day 4
"Binder Dundat" escreveu:

> (Yeah i
> was watching CNN last night during the election, actually I was
> switching around the channels, just to watch the different
> projections, like Fox always had Romney with a bigger lead vs CNN)

=)

I tried to do the same, but the hotel cable package didn't carry Fox News.
Never thought I'd be sorry to not have Fox News available! ;)


 
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Alkamista  
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 More options Nov 15 2012, 1:17 pm
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From: Alkamista <alkami...@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 10:17:58 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Nov 15 2012 1:17 pm
Subject: Re: UCL Tables day 4
On Nov 15, 1:04 pm, Clément <lcmello.lis...@terra.com.br> wrote:

> "Binder Dundat" escreveu:

> > (Yeah i
> > was watching CNN last night during the election, actually I was
> > switching around the channels, just to watch the different
> > projections, like Fox always had Romney with a bigger lead vs CNN)

> =)

> I tried to do the same, but the hotel cable package didn't carry Fox News.
> Never thought I'd be sorry to not have Fox News available! ;)

Facts are often inconvenient for today's Republican party, that's why
they prefer making up their own. They are currently all undergoing a
phase of manic depression mixed with panic and soul searching, it's a
beautiful time :-)

 
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MH  
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 More options Nov 15 2012, 2:39 pm
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:39:54 -0700
Local: Thurs, Nov 15 2012 2:39 pm
Subject: Re: UCL Tables day 4
On 12-11-15 11:17 AM, Alkamista wrote:

I read (dunno if these facts are true or finalized yet)
1) this makes 5 out of the last six elections where the GOP has lost the
popular vote for President.
2) The democrats actually had more of the popular vote in the House of
Representatives election - in spite of the poor yield of seats.  Is
their vote really that inefficient, or is the gerrymandering really that
bad, or what ?

 
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Alkamista  
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 More options Nov 15 2012, 3:48 pm
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From: Alkamista <alkami...@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:48:23 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Nov 15 2012 3:48 pm
Subject: Re: UCL Tables day 4
On Nov 15, 2:39 pm, MH <MHnos...@ucalgary.ca> wrote:

Well, the winning President won the popular vote in 5 of the last 6
elections, only exception being Gore in 2000. Since 4 of those 5 were
Democrats, you are correct about the popular vote winning trend:
Clinton, Clinton, Gore, Bush, Obama, Obama.

> 2) The democrats actually had more of the popular vote in the House of
> Representatives election - in spite of the poor yield of seats.  Is
> their vote really that inefficient, or is the gerrymandering really that
> bad, or what ?

I think it just implies that overall Democrats won their seats
healthily, while Repub victories were closer, very generally speaking
of course.

One shocking fact this year: Romney won less of the Mormon vote than
Bush did last time!


 
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The Scrutineer  
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 More options Nov 15 2012, 4:19 pm
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Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 08:19:31 +1100
Local: Thurs, Nov 15 2012 4:19 pm
Subject: Re: UCL Tables day 4

"Alkamista"  wrote in message

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Jesse Ventura for President in 2016!!!

Now it's up to all to conspire against him...


 
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 More options Nov 15 2012, 6:04 pm
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:04:46 -0500
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Subject: Re: UCL Tables day 4
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:48:23 -0800 (PST), Alkamista

But as usual the Dems won 100% of the dead person vote.

 
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