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Google Beta User  
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 More options Mar 13 2012, 10:07 pm
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: Google Beta User <wanyik...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:07:44 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Mar 13 2012 10:07 pm
Subject: RSS Poll
Curious, does anyone on here ever just watch a match and just let it
play or just watch it out of enjoyment of the sport and leave it at
that anymore?

 
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Binder Dundat  
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 More options Mar 14 2012, 12:22 am
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From: Binder Dundat <dun...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:22:50 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Mar 14 2012 12:22 am
Subject: Re: RSS Poll
On Mar 13, 10:07 pm, Google Beta User <wanyik...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Curious, does anyone on here ever just watch a match and just let it
> play or just watch it out of enjoyment of the sport and leave it at
> that anymore?

yeah, all the time.

just downloaded Boca v Independiente, I even know the score to that
game. Probably watch it some time this week or next?


 
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Mark V.  
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 More options Mar 14 2012, 1:07 am
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From: "Mark V." <markvande...@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:07:32 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Mar 14 2012 1:07 am
Subject: Re: RSS Poll
On Mar 13, 7:07 pm, Google Beta User <wanyik...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Curious, does anyone on here ever just watch a match and just let it
> play or just watch it out of enjoyment of the sport and leave it at
> that anymore?

Yes! Nothing beats watching a game with an unbiased lens and realizing
afterwards, "Heck, that was a fun match!" OK. I lie. Eating napfkuchen
beats it. But nothing else does.

I don't own a TV (I stream EPL games or watch them in pubs or at
friends' homes), but whenever I house-sit for someone with cable or am
in a hotel with a sports channel I will watch almost anything, and
will stick it out to the end if it is entertaining. I especially enjoy
Mexican league and J-League matches, though I don't have a horse in
either.


 
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M. G.  
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 More options Mar 14 2012, 3:43 am
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From: "M. G." <em...@cabinet.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 07:43:07 -0000
Local: Wed, Mar 14 2012 3:43 am
Subject: Re: RSS Poll
[Google Beta User, wanyik...@gmail.com]
[Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:07:44 -0700 (PDT)]

: Curious, does anyone on here ever just watch a match and just let it
: play or just watch it out of enjoyment of the sport and leave it at
: that anymore?

All the time.  I watched an MLS match the other day, and I regularly
watch matches from around the world on Sky, ones in which I have no idea
who is playing and don't even understand the language the commentators
are speaking... still enjoyable. :)

--
"Look at the way teams play against Arsenal.  They don't believe they
can win.  They don't believe." -- Jose Mourinho


 
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Joachim Parsch  
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 More options Mar 14 2012, 3:51 am
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From: Joachim Parsch <s...@bunuel.franken.de>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:51:09 +0100
Local: Wed, Mar 14 2012 3:51 am
Subject: Re: RSS Poll

Google Beta User schrieb:

> Curious, does anyone on here ever just watch a match and just let it
> play or just watch it out of enjoyment of the sport and leave it at
> that anymore?

Yes, of course. Though in such cases I quite often do not
watch the full 90 minutes.

Joachim


 
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Mark  
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 More options Mar 14 2012, 5:43 am
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From: Mark <Pammieshe...@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 02:43:31 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Mar 14 2012 5:43 am
Subject: Re: RSS Poll
On Mar 14, 2:07 am, Google Beta User <wanyik...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Curious, does anyone on here ever just watch a match and just let it
> play or just watch it out of enjoyment of the sport and leave it at
> that anymore?

 Yep. I certainly do.

 
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Bruce D. Scott  
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 More options Mar 14 2012, 9:45 am
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From: b...@ipp-garching.mpg.de (Bruce D. Scott)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:45:46 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Wed, Mar 14 2012 9:45 am
Subject: Re: RSS Poll
Google Beta User (wanyik...@gmail.com) wrote:
: Curious, does anyone on here ever just watch a match and just let it
: play or just watch it out of enjoyment of the sport and leave it at
: that anymore?

Recently: Copa America (while in the US, on weal internet)

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ciao,
Bruce

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 More options Mar 14 2012, 10:33 am
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From: MH <MHnos...@ucalgary.ca>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:33:48 -0600
Local: Wed, Mar 14 2012 10:33 am
Subject: Re: RSS Poll
On 12-03-13 8:07 PM, Google Beta User wrote:

> Curious, does anyone on here ever just watch a match and just let it
> play or just watch it out of enjoyment of the sport and leave it at
> that anymore?

Of course.  All the time.

 
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 More options Mar 14 2012, 10:36 am
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From: MH <MHnos...@ucalgary.ca>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:36:18 -0600
Local: Wed, Mar 14 2012 10:36 am
Subject: Re: RSS Poll
On 12-03-13 11:07 PM, Mark V. wrote:

> On Mar 13, 7:07 pm, Google Beta User<wanyik...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> Curious, does anyone on here ever just watch a match and just let it
>> play or just watch it out of enjoyment of the sport and leave it at
>> that anymore?

> Yes! Nothing beats watching a game with an unbiased lens

I find this nigh on impossible.  I start with a unbiased lens
(sometimes), but then something happens during the game that always tips
me one way or the other.

I could be watching Portland vs. Kansas, for example.  No pre-existing
preference there at all.  But one team will be dirtier, or one team
simply plays better and deserves to score more, and that will get me on
their side.

and realizing


 
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 More options Mar 14 2012, 11:52 am
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From: Google Beta User <wanyik...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:52:25 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Mar 14 2012 11:52 am
Subject: Re: RSS Poll
On Mar 14, 10:36 am, MH <MHnos...@ucalgary.ca> wrote:

> I find this nigh on impossible.  I start with a unbiased lens
> (sometimes), but then something happens during the game that always tips
> me one way or the other.

> I could be watching Portland vs. Kansas, for example.  No pre-existing
> preference there at all.  But one team will be dirtier, or one team
> simply plays better and deserves to score more, and that will get me on
> their side.

I didn't mean "unbiased" per se (though it could be that too).  I
meant watching games stress free--just opening up a cold one and
enjoying football. You know, without getting worked up, or being
compelled to view details that happen in the match as  "grave
injustices that are a travesty on the game", that end up ruining the
sport, etc.

 
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Bruce D. Scott  
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 More options Mar 14 2012, 12:09 pm
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From: b...@ipp-garching.mpg.de (Bruce D. Scott)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:09:13 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Wed, Mar 14 2012 12:09 pm
Subject: Re: RSS Poll
Google Beta User (wanyik...@gmail.com) wrote:
: On Mar 14, 10:36=A0am, MH <MHnos...@ucalgary.ca> wrote:

: > I find this nigh on impossible. =A0I start with a unbiased lens
: > (sometimes), but then something happens during the game that always tips
: > me one way or the other.
: >
: > I could be watching Portland vs. Kansas, for example. =A0No pre-existing
: > preference there at all. =A0But one team will be dirtier, or one team
: > simply plays better and deserves to score more, and that will get me on
: > their side.

: I didn't mean "unbiased" per se (though it could be that too).  I
: meant watching games stress free--just opening up a cold one and
: enjoying football. You know, without getting worked up, or being
: compelled to view details that happen in the match as  "grave
: injustices that are a travesty on the game", that end up ruining the
: sport, etc.

That's more an EPL thing...

I watch the 2nd league stress free all the time, so natural I forgot to
mention it in the other post.

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ciao,
Bruce

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Sven Mischkies  
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 More options Mar 14 2012, 12:09 pm
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From: hs...@der-ball-ist-rund.net (Sven Mischkies)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:09:43 +0000
Local: Wed, Mar 14 2012 12:09 pm
Subject: Re: RSS Poll
Google Beta User <wanyik...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ah. Yes, that's why I like watching Liverpool. I like them, but won't
normally get worked up about their games. Yesterday's derby was quite
enjoyable - good game, and I'd have been happy with any result.

OTOH I often chicken out of watching HSV full time (usually have it
running in the background until the defeat is unavoidable), because I
know it won't be enjoyable at all - even if they win they play shite
these days.

But watching a random football game just for the enjoyment of it? Only
rarely. I don't get much on free tv, and feeds are often crap, and I
don't like the tv athmosphere in Bundesliga or many other European
stadiums.

I used to watch the occassional Reading or Oxford game in the past, and
even got season tickets for either, but the football was so drab that I
found that it's just not worth it.

Ciao,
        SM
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 More options Mar 14 2012, 12:13 pm
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From: MH <MHnos...@ucalgary.ca>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:13:13 -0600
Local: Wed, Mar 14 2012 12:13 pm
Subject: Re: RSS Poll
On 12-03-14 9:52 AM, Google Beta User wrote:

> On Mar 14, 10:36 am, MH<MHnos...@ucalgary.ca>  wrote:

>> I find this nigh on impossible.  I start with a unbiased lens
>> (sometimes), but then something happens during the game that always tips
>> me one way or the other.

>> I could be watching Portland vs. Kansas, for example.  No pre-existing
>> preference there at all.  But one team will be dirtier, or one team
>> simply plays better and deserves to score more, and that will get me on
>> their side.

> I didn't mean "unbiased" per se (though it could be that too).  I
> meant watching games stress free

I watch that way > 90 % of the time.  Most of what I watch is EPL (no
team I care about that passionately that I get worked up - I would like
to see Chelsea and Man City not do well, but that is not something I am
passionate about), Ligue 1 (I sympathize with underdogs and Toulouse,
but nothing strong there), and MLS.   Occasionally Serie A , where I
couldn't care less as long as the Milan teams lose. CL games are delayed
so I know the score by the time I see them, usually.

The small percent where I care and could get worked up are games
involving Scotland, Canada, and the odd world cup game where I have a
clear favourite.

--just opening up a cold one and


 
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Alkamista  
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 More options Mar 14 2012, 12:03 pm
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From: Alkamista <alkami...@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 09:03:21 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Mar 14 2012 12:03 pm
Subject: Re: RSS Poll
On Mar 14, 11:52 am, Google Beta User <wanyik...@gmail.com> wrote:

You mean not act like Manx Gunner? Sure.

 
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 More options Mar 14 2012, 2:17 pm
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From: Clément <lcmello.lis...@terra.com.br>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:17:14 -0300
Local: Wed, Mar 14 2012 2:17 pm
Subject: Re: RSS Poll
"Google Beta User" escreveu:

> I didn't mean "unbiased" per se (though it could be that too).  I
> meant watching games stress free--just opening up a cold one and
> enjoying football. You know, without getting worked up, or being
> compelled to view details that happen in the match as  "grave
> injustices that are a travesty on the game", that end up ruining the
> sport, etc.

I try to not get worked up even when watching my favorite teams. It's not
really possible, but I think I do a good job of not overreacting to things,
and of keeping an objective perspective.

Also, years ago I made the decision of never watching my two favorite
Brazilian teams' (Vasco and Vitória FC) derbies against their respective
most hated rivals. Precisely because there's too much hate for me to be able
to keep cool in those games. It's not worth it.

But answering your original question, I'd watch a more games as a "neutral"
(although I can rarely be neutral, if at all) if I had more free time, or
fewer things competing for my free time. As it is, I'd usually pick a good
movie, for example, over a football match I have no big interest in.

Maybe I have too many interests, including other sports.

Typical situations in which I watch football matches just for the pleasure
of it include World Cups, continental championships, and world and
continental qualifiers. In short, mostly NT matches (even friendlies at
times).

Abraço,

Luiz Mello


 
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 More options Mar 14 2012, 2:51 pm
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From: Google Beta User <wanyik...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:51:54 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Mar 14 2012 2:51 pm
Subject: Re: RSS Poll
On Mar 14, 2:17 pm, Clément <lcmello.lis...@terra.com.br> wrote:

> I try to not get worked up even when watching my favorite teams. It's not
> really possible, but I think I do a good job of not overreacting to things,
> and of keeping an objective perspective.

I don't mean "worked up" as in supporting your usual favorite team or
emotional investment. That's hard for any sports fan.  I meant it in
the sense that one can't watch a match without tensing up and getting
really upset by this or that detail....that they actively seek out
something in the game that's "wrong" and "must" be corrected for the
good of the game, or it will be completely ruined, etc etc. I mean
once in a while its fine, but all-the time? As one's default mode of
watching sports? Thankfully, it doesn't appear to be the normal way of
watching the sport. Because I was wondering why would anyone want to
subject themselves and others to that?

 
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 More options Mar 14 2012, 6:47 pm
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From: Benny <Be...@soccer-europe.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:47:18 +0000
Local: Wed, Mar 14 2012 6:47 pm
Subject: Re: RSS Poll
On 14/03/2012 02:07, Google Beta User wrote:

> Curious, does anyone on here ever just watch a match and just let it
> play or just watch it out of enjoyment of the sport and leave it at
> that anymore?

Depends on the teams involved. Teams that wind me up I don't watch
unless they're down by a couple of goals with a few minutes to go in
which case I tune in to revel in their misery.

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chris m  
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 More options Mar 16 2012, 7:13 am
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From: chris m <rilke2...@yahoo.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 07:13:05 -0400
Local: Fri, Mar 16 2012 7:13 am
Subject: Re: RSS Poll
In article <3e98r.141720$ZT6.128...@newsfe23.ams2>, Benny

<Be...@soccer-europe.com> wrote:
> On 14/03/2012 02:07, Google Beta User wrote:
> > Curious, does anyone on here ever just watch a match and just let it
> > play or just watch it out of enjoyment of the sport and leave it at
> > that anymore?

I watch about 4 EPL games a week on ESPN2 or FSC in the States.  I get
very "worked up" about the game if I have FF players involved.  That is
key to gettting aroused for me.  I watch most CL leagues that are
available on FSC.  I have TIVO and record, but won't watch them if some
how I notice the result in a newspaper or here (spoilers everyone!)
before hand.  Every now and then I will watch a Serie A game.

I keep trying to watch MSL here.  I really want to get into it.
Someone on my EPL/FF home started a US fantasty game but I didn't sign
up.  I don't know if its just me buit US soccer is a snore.  Just route
one, smash and dash, with little build up or intricate midfield play.

chris m


 
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 More options Mar 16 2012, 11:30 pm
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From: Clément <lcmello.lis...@terra.com.br>
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 00:30:55 -0300
Local: Fri, Mar 16 2012 11:30 pm
Subject: Re: RSS Poll
"Google Beta User" escreveu:

> I don't mean "worked up" as in supporting your usual favorite team or
> emotional investment. That's hard for any sports fan.  I meant it in
> the sense that one can't watch a match without tensing up and getting
> really upset by this or that detail....that they actively seek out
> something in the game that's "wrong" and "must" be corrected for the
> good of the game, or it will be completely ruined, etc etc. I mean
> once in a while its fine, but all-the time? As one's default mode of
> watching sports?

Those things are usually interesting discussion fodder for fans of the
sport, and I don't mind to discuss such problems often.

But yeah, when such problems happen every game, everywhere, at every level,
there's no point in getting irritated about it, or letting it ruin one's
fun. Watching sports is optional, after all.

Abraço,

Luiz Mello


 
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