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Futbolmetrix

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Nov 14, 2012, 9:39:06 AM11/14/12
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I'm surprised that nobody is writing about this (well, not really...),
but today was QF day at the FIFA Futsal World Cup. Brazil sent out 4 or
5 teams, only one of them actually representing Brazil.

The "real" Brazil came back from two goals down to beat Argentina and
clinch a semifinal spot. The second semifinal seemed to have no
Brazilians in it, and Colombia upset Ukraine (or maybe it wasn't an
upset at all).

The third semifinal saw the clash of Brazil against Brazil, but for some
reason some of the Brazilians wore Portugal jerseys, while others wore
Italy jerseys. Brazil-Portugal stormed to a 3 goal lead, but
Brazil-Italy pulled one back, and then scored two more in the final 4
minutes to send the game into extra time. The demoralized Brazilians
obviously had lost their punch, and the fired-up Brazilians added one
more to clinch a spot in the semis. So I guess I should be happy that
the dudes in the azzurri jersey advanced.


The final QF is the pick of the bunch, a repeat of the Euro final
between Russia (Brazil-Russia, that is), and perennial champions Spain.
The winner will have to beat Brazil twice to win the title

D

Futbolmetrix

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Nov 14, 2012, 9:45:34 AM11/14/12
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On 11/14/2012 9:39 AM, Futbolmetrix wrote:
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> The third semifinal saw the clash of Brazil against Brazil, but for some
> reason some of the Brazilians wore Portugal jerseys, while others wore
> Italy jerseys. Brazil-Portugal stormed to a 3 goal lead, but
> Brazil-Italy pulled one back, and then scored two more in the final 4
> minutes to send the game into extra time. The demoralized Brazilians
> obviously had lost their punch, and the fired-up Brazilians added one
> more to clinch a spot in the semis. So I guess I should be happy that
> the dudes in the azzurri jersey advanced.

I caught the highlights, and this was actually not bad. One of the
Portuguese goals was an acrobatic overhead kick. Then a Portuguese
player got a red card (second yellow), but I don't really know what that
means. Italy's 3-2 goal was scored by one of their field players wearing
the goalie jersey (so much to Binder's theory that pulling the goalie
never works: that may be true for inferior sports like hockey!). And in
the end there were celebrations and tears and all that stuff.



> The final QF is the pick of the bunch, a repeat of the Euro final
> between Russia (Brazil-Russia, that is), and perennial champions Spain.
> The winner will have to beat Brazil twice to win the title
>

Russia had not conceded a goal the whole tournament, but Spain is
alraedy up 3-1.

D

Futbolmetrix

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Nov 14, 2012, 10:15:10 AM11/14/12
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On 11/14/2012 9:45 AM, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> Russia had not conceded a goal the whole tournament, but Spain is
> alraedy up 3-1.

10 minutes to go, Spain still up 3-1, Not surprising that Spain is so
good at futsal, it's basically tiki-taka on steroids.

D

Futbolmetrix

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Nov 14, 2012, 10:24:55 AM11/14/12
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7 minutes to go, Russia have made it 3-2, and now they are sending their
goalie forward

Joachim Parsch

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Nov 14, 2012, 10:32:04 AM11/14/12
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Am 14.11.2012 15:45, schrieb Futbolmetrix:
> On 11/14/2012 9:39 AM, Futbolmetrix wrote:
[Brazil blue vs. Brazil red]
> I caught the highlights, and this was actually not bad.
> One of the Portuguese goals was an acrobatic overhead kick.
> Then a Portuguese player got a red card (second yellow),
> but I don't really know what that means.

Apparently the player is out of the match and banned
for the next one, just as in the grass based sport.
And it works as the equivalent of an ice hockey
2-minute-penalty, i.e. 2 minutes of 4 vs. 3, unless
the 4 guys score a goal, in which case equality is
restored instantly.

> Italy's 3-2 goal was scored by one of their field
> players wearing the goalie jersey (so much to Binder's
> theory that pulling the goalie never works: that may
> be true for inferior sports like hockey!). And in the end
> there were celebrations and tears and all that stuff.

From what I've seen of Futsal, the additional field player
trick works about two thirds of the time. And I have not
yet seen the short-handed-side profiting from the empty net.
Nice match, the Itazil - Portuzil clash. Interesting, some
drama and a little extra time.

Joachim

Futbolmetrix

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Nov 14, 2012, 10:40:53 AM11/14/12
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With one-man advantage they created lots of chances, but couldn't break
down the Spanish defense. Spain wins 3-2 and advances to the semi.

So we have a nice CONMEBOL-UEFA split in the semis:

Brazil - Colombia
Italy - Spain

JG

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Nov 14, 2012, 11:01:28 PM11/14/12
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On Wednesday, November 14, 2012 9:39:07 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> I'm surprised that nobody is writing about this (well, not really...),
> but today was QF day at the FIFA Futsal World Cup. Brazil sent out 4 or
> 5 teams, only one of them actually representing Brazil.

As a futsal novice, I made the mistake of trying to watch a group stage match between two non-Brazil teams. It looked like a two-dimensional form of basketball where half the possessions ended in passes out of bounds. I take it the Brazilian intramural matches are actually watchable?

Clément

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Nov 16, 2012, 11:58:31 AM11/16/12
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"JG" escreveu:
I don't know what to make of futsal. The sport has great potential, sick
skills, lots of speed and action, plastically beautiful plays etc. But the
games can be very dull.

Abra�o,

Luiz Mello

Binder Dundat

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Nov 16, 2012, 11:33:29 AM11/16/12
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> Abraço,
>
> Luiz Mello

I played Futsal for a couple of seasons, from a playing perspective it
is very quick, lots of running, the different ball makes it hard - at
least for me- to dribble and take a lot of time on it. It is probably
a lot more like ice hockey, with quick passing and first time shots.

Speaking of ice hockey, what is the news from Brazil on the NHL? I
spoke to someone last night and it seems the owners are asking the
players to give them up to 50% of their personal endorsements? Is
that true?

Abubakr

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Nov 16, 2012, 4:59:42 PM11/16/12
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On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 03:58:31 +1100, Clément <lcmello...@terra.com.br>
wrote:
It's the reason I get bored of watching basketball too. Good fun to play
though.

Clément

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Nov 18, 2012, 3:07:34 AM11/18/12
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"Binder Dundat" escreveu:
> I played Futsal for a couple of seasons, from a playing
> perspective it is very quick, lots of running, the different
> ball makes it hard - at least for me- to dribble and take a
> lot of time on it. It is probably a lot more like ice hockey,
> with quick passing and first time shots.

I played futsal way more often than any other football variation. It is like
you describe.

Many professional footballers in Brazil begin their careers in futsal, from
where they bring useful skills, such as dribbling in short spaces. However,
top futsal players don't seem to adapt well to the field, more often than
not.

> Speaking of ice hockey, what is the news from Brazil on the NHL?
> I spoke to someone last night and it seems the owners are asking
> the players to give them up to 50% of their personal endorsements?
> Is that true?

Not a lot of coverage here in Brazil, most of the news I get are from
American or Canadian sources. But, even if there is not the same amount and
depth of coverage, the overall feeling is pretty much the same here as it
seems to be everywhere else, that this lockout is nonsense.

I don't know about this personal endorsements thing, and it doesn't make any
sense to me?

I'm not one to take side in a dispute between billionaires and millionaires,
but I'm generally calling BS on the owners this time around. I don't really
care what CBA they end up agreeing to in the end, but I hope the players
stay strong on their demand that the owners honor all current contracts.

Abraço,

Luiz Mello

Futbolmetrix

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Nov 18, 2012, 1:58:53 PM11/18/12
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On 11/18/2012 9:07 AM, Clément wrote:
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> I played futsal way more often than any other football variation. It is
> like you describe.

I play futsal in a league during the winter, and pick-up 11v11 in the
other months. The one advantage of futsal is that, in my experience, you
pick up fewer injuries. I enjoy playing both.

> Many professional footballers in Brazil begin their careers in futsal,
> from where they bring useful skills, such as dribbling in short spaces.
> However, top futsal players don't seem to adapt well to the field, more
> often than not.

By the way, Brazil-Brazil won the WC by beating Spain (let's call them
Spain-Spain, as they had only two Brazilians on the team) 3-2 aet in the
final. Brazil's equalizer came three minutes from time, by a dude named
Falcao, apparently the best futsal player in the world.
But the best goal was the decider:

http://www.fifa.com/futsalworldcup/highlights/video/video=1923414/index.html

Slick dribbling.

Brazil-Italy beat Colombia 3-0 to claim third place.





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