0-0 but should have been a 3-0 Italian win (1978)
1-1 after the ref gifted the Germans an indirect free-kick inside the box for alleged time wasting by Zenga (Euro 1988)
But the streak is coming to an end on Thursday. This Germany side is far stronger than any of the previous versions, and Italy weaker. Plus, the 120 minutes versus England and two fewer days of rest make it an impossible uphill battle.
On Sunday, June 24, 2012 8:59:03 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> This one is going to be brief:
> 4-3
> 3-1
> 2-0
> And you can also add:
> 0-0 but should have been a 3-0 Italian win (1978)
> 1-1 after the ref gifted the Germans an indirect free-kick inside the > box for alleged time wasting by Zenga (Euro 1988)
> But the streak is coming to an end on Thursday. This Germany side is far > stronger than any of the previous versions, and Italy weaker. Plus, the > 120 minutes versus England and two fewer days of rest make it an > impossible uphill battle.
> D
Yes, Italy is done. No chance. But I still expect it to go to the wire.
Still haven't seen it, was admitted hospital that day, and it was my
birthday to boot. Not the best one at that...
> 2-0
aet.
> And you can also add:
> 0-0 but should have been a 3-0 Italian win (1978)
Dunno about that, but it was a bad WC for Germany - it's down there with
the failures 62, 94 and 98 (quarterfinal exits each time, in 3 of the 4
the manager had to go).
> 1-1 after the ref gifted the Germans an indirect free-kick inside the
> box for alleged time wasting by Zenga (Euro 1988)
In the 55th minute? Cool, I like the ref (Keith Hackett). ;)
It wasn't timewasting, Zenga took too many steps with the ball in hand.
> But the streak is coming to an end on Thursday. This Germany side is far
> stronger than any of the previous versions, and Italy weaker. Plus, the
> 120 minutes versus England and two fewer days of rest make it an > impossible uphill battle.
We'll see. I am optimistic as long as Gomez doesn't play. If we play
with him and are too static, then we won't score the 2 or more goals
we'll need to win. And if it goes to extra time we know who'll come out
on top. ;)
If I saw it correctly, then there were 6 competitive games between GER
and ITA (group stage 0-0 in 62), the WC final being the only one that
was not tied after 90 minutes - ITA went on to win the two knock out
games in extra time. So, it has always been close with the exception of
1982.
Ciao,
SM
-- http://www.gourockviews.co.uk I find the whole business of religion profoundly interesting. But it does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take it seriously. Douglas Adams
: But the streak is coming to an end on Thursday. This Germany side is far : stronger than any of the previous versions, and Italy weaker. Plus, the : 120 minutes versus England and two fewer days of rest make it an : impossible uphill battle.
And that excuse will be a frankly legitimate gripe should you need to
invoke it. All for TV: the right thing to do would be to have the
1/4-Finals as doubleheaders.
1962
0-0, never saw it. Complete game not available anywhere as far as I can see.
1970 "Game of the Century".
-the regulation time was actualy fairly dull with Italy (typically) going up 1-0 and then trying to shut up shop. The overtime was an unreal roller coaster though. Some say the match drained the Italians for the final but I doubt they could have competed with Pele and a loaded Brazil anyways.
1978
-yes, Italy were the better team in that 0-0 draw and really looked damn good in the group of death up till then. The Germans were still competent but nothing special in 78 (though they almost beat the Dutch in a great game).
1982
-Italy were just a team of destiny by that point and running on all cyclinders after KOing Argies, Brazil and a good Poland side (without Boniek mind you). The Germans looked a bit tired (after their marathon comeback against France).
1988
-never saw the 1-1 draw.
1990
-final really should have been W. Germany vs Italy, really wonder who would have won (would have favoured the Germans personally, more ammunition up front and the Italians didn't have a Brehme).
1996
-0-0 when Italy had to win (after blowing it against the Czechs). I remember Sacchi continually changing the lineup for no real reason which hurt cohesion.
2006
-tough grind em out semi-final with two very late Italian goals. Very even for the most part.
The Germans have trouble with the Italian style in general, but this German team is the best since 90' and this Italian team is relatively subpar to the historical standard (in my eyes anyways) but perhaps not by much.
"Sven Mischkies" <hs...@der-ball-ist-rund.net> wrote in message
> Still haven't seen it, was admitted hospital that day, and it was my
> birthday to boot. Not the best one at that...
>> 2-0
> aet.
>> And you can also add:
>> 0-0 but should have been a 3-0 Italian win (1978)
> Dunno about that, but it was a bad WC for Germany - it's down there with
> the failures 62, 94 and 98 (quarterfinal exits each time, in 3 of the 4
> the manager had to go).
>> 1-1 after the ref gifted the Germans an indirect free-kick inside the
>> box for alleged time wasting by Zenga (Euro 1988)
> In the 55th minute? Cool, I like the ref (Keith Hackett). ;)
> It wasn't timewasting, Zenga took too many steps with the ball in hand.
>> But the streak is coming to an end on Thursday. This Germany side is far
>> stronger than any of the previous versions, and Italy weaker. Plus, the
>> 120 minutes versus England and two fewer days of rest make it an
>> impossible uphill battle.
> We'll see. I am optimistic as long as Gomez doesn't play. If we play
> with him and are too static, then we won't score the 2 or more goals
> we'll need to win. And if it goes to extra time we know who'll come out
> on top. ;)
> If I saw it correctly, then there were 6 competitive games between GER
> and ITA (group stage 0-0 in 62), the WC final being the only one that
> was not tied after 90 minutes - ITA went on to win the two knock out
> games in extra time. So, it has always been close with the exception of
> 1982.
> Ciao,
> SM
> -- > http://www.gourockviews.co.uk > I find the whole business of religion profoundly interesting. But it
> does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take it seriously.
> Douglas Adams
> 0-0 but should have been a 3-0 Italian win (1978)
> 1-1 after the ref gifted the Germans an indirect free-kick inside the
> box for alleged time wasting by Zenga (Euro 1988)
> But the streak is coming to an end on Thursday. This Germany side is far
> stronger than any of the previous versions, and Italy weaker. Plus, the
> 120 minutes versus England and two fewer days of rest make it an
> impossible uphill battle.
> D
Let's see. Germany beat Holland but, everybody did. They beat Portugal
but, all the big teams do and they beat Greece. A little overrated no?
I see Italy in the finals.
,
> 0-0 but should have been a 3-0 Italian win (1978)
> 1-1 after the ref gifted the Germans an indirect free-kick inside the
> box for alleged time wasting by Zenga (Euro 1988)
> But the streak is coming to an end on Thursday. This Germany side is far
> stronger than any of the previous versions, and Italy weaker. Plus, the
> 120 minutes versus England and two fewer days of rest make it an
> impossible uphill battle.
Very good post. Perhaps with the addition that the 1970 German side
was quite good, too, but the situation was vice versa. German thad the
Extra-time QF against England before.
> 0-0 but should have been a 3-0 Italian win (1978)
> 1-1 after the ref gifted the Germans an indirect free-kick inside the
> box for alleged time wasting by Zenga (Euro 1988)
> But the streak is coming to an end on Thursday. This Germany side is far
> stronger than any of the previous versions, and Italy weaker. Plus, the
> 120 minutes versus England and two fewer days of rest make it an
> impossible uphill battle.
> But the streak is coming to an end on Thursday. This Germany side is far > stronger than any of the previous versions, and Italy weaker. Plus, the > 120 minutes versus England and two fewer days of rest make it an > impossible uphill battle.
> Still haven't seen it, was admitted hospital that day, and it was my
> birthday to boot. Not the best one at that...
> > 2-0
> aet.
> > And you can also add:
> > 0-0 but should have been a 3-0 Italian win (1978)
> Dunno about that, but it was a bad WC for Germany - it's down there with
> the failures 62, 94 and 98 (quarterfinal exits each time, in 3 of the 4
> the manager had to go).
> > 1-1 after the ref gifted the Germans an indirect free-kick inside the
> > box for alleged time wasting by Zenga (Euro 1988)
> In the 55th minute? Cool, I like the ref (Keith Hackett). ;)
> It wasn't timewasting, Zenga took too many steps with the ball in hand.
> > But the streak is coming to an end on Thursday. This Germany side is far
> > stronger than any of the previous versions, and Italy weaker. Plus, the
> > 120 minutes versus England and two fewer days of rest make it an
> > impossible uphill battle.
> We'll see. I am optimistic as long as Gomez doesn't play. If we play
> with him and are too static, then we won't score the 2 or more goals
> we'll need to win. And if it goes to extra time we know who'll come out
> on top. ;)
Why still no love for Super Mario???? What does he have to do to get
some love from the fans?
I am not sure the young Germans can beat the likes of Italy, let alone
Spain. Maybe in two or four years time, but not now. Even if England
had won, I still would not have been confident of them winning that
game. Not that they do not have some very good players, I just get
the feeling they would play to naively?
> If I saw it correctly, then there were 6 competitive games between GER
> and ITA (group stage 0-0 in 62), the WC final being the only one that
> was not tied after 90 minutes - ITA went on to win the two knock out
> games in extra time. So, it has always been close with the exception of
> 1982.
> Ciao,
> SM
> --http://www.gourockviews.co.uk > I find the whole business of religion profoundly interesting. But it
> does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take it seriously.
> Douglas Adams
On Jun 24, 7:59 pm, Futbolmetrix <futbolmet...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> This one is going to be brief:
> 4-3
> 3-1
> 2-0
> And you can also add:
> 0-0 but should have been a 3-0 Italian win (1978)
> 1-1 after the ref gifted the Germans an indirect free-kick inside the
> box for alleged time wasting by Zenga (Euro 1988)
> But the streak is coming to an end on Thursday. This Germany side is far
> stronger than any of the previous versions, and Italy weaker. Plus, the
Doesn't matter. Germany is scared of Italy. Italy is one of the most
organized teams out there. And lets not forget they held Spain 1-1. No
team has been able to do this entire competition. I think this Italian
team is underrated. And if that clown Ballotelli had performed better
would have thrashed England and also most likely Spain.
> 120 minutes versus England and two fewer days of rest make it an
> impossible uphill battle.
> > Still haven't seen it, was admitted hospital that day, and it was my
> > birthday to boot. Not the best one at that...
> > > 2-0
> > aet.
> > > And you can also add:
> > > 0-0 but should have been a 3-0 Italian win (1978)
> > Dunno about that, but it was a bad WC for Germany - it's down there with
> > the failures 62, 94 and 98 (quarterfinal exits each time, in 3 of the 4
> > the manager had to go).
> > > 1-1 after the ref gifted the Germans an indirect free-kick inside the
> > > box for alleged time wasting by Zenga (Euro 1988)
> > In the 55th minute? Cool, I like the ref (Keith Hackett). ;)
> > It wasn't timewasting, Zenga took too many steps with the ball in hand.
> > > But the streak is coming to an end on Thursday. This Germany side is far
> > > stronger than any of the previous versions, and Italy weaker. Plus, the
> > > 120 minutes versus England and two fewer days of rest make it an
> > > impossible uphill battle.
> > We'll see. I am optimistic as long as Gomez doesn't play. If we play
> > with him and are too static, then we won't score the 2 or more goals
> > we'll need to win. And if it goes to extra time we know who'll come out
> > on top. ;)
> Why still no love for Super Mario???? What does he have to do to get
> some love from the fans?
He should convert at least 50% of his chances (he converts about 5% of
it). And not miss sitters at 2 feet from the goal-line. And why does
Klose have to sit in the bench? He scores for Germany in every key
match.
> I am not sure the young Germans can beat the likes of Italy, let alone
> Spain. Maybe in two or four years time, but not now. Even if England
> had won, I still would not have been confident of them winning that
> game. Not that they do not have some very good players, I just get
> the feeling they would play to naively?
> > If I saw it correctly, then there were 6 competitive games between GER
> > and ITA (group stage 0-0 in 62), the WC final being the only one that
> > was not tied after 90 minutes - ITA went on to win the two knock out
> > games in extra time. So, it has always been close with the exception of
> > 1982.
> > Ciao,
> > SM
> > --http://www.gourockviews.co.uk > > I find the whole business of religion profoundly interesting. But it
> > does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take it seriously.
> > Douglas Adams- Hide quoted text -
> On Jun 24, 8:59 pm, Futbolmetrix <futbolmet...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > This one is going to be brief:
> > 4-3
> > 3-1
> > 2-0
> > And you can also add:
> > 0-0 but should have been a 3-0 Italian win (1978)
> > 1-1 after the ref gifted the Germans an indirect free-kick inside the
> > box for alleged time wasting by Zenga (Euro 1988)
> > But the streak is coming to an end on Thursday. This Germany side is far
> > stronger than any of the previous versions, and Italy weaker. Plus, the
> > 120 minutes versus England and two fewer days of rest make it an
> > impossible uphill battle.
> > D
> Let's see. Germany beat Holland but, everybody did. They beat Portugal
> but, all the big teams do and they beat Greece. A little overrated no?
> I see Italy in the finals.
> ,- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
I agree. Germany are overrated (and have been under-performing) and
Italy underrated in this tournament.
> 0-0 but should have been a 3-0 Italian win (1978)
> 1-1 after the ref gifted the Germans an indirect free-kick inside the
> box for alleged time wasting by Zenga (Euro 1988)
> But the streak is coming to an end on Thursday. This Germany side is far
> stronger than any of the previous versions, and Italy weaker. Plus, the
> 120 minutes versus England and two fewer days of rest make it an
> impossible uphill battle.
> D
I hope we will have get answer on Thursday how strong this Germany
team really is.
Let's face the truth: Every single German success has been bashed with
asterisks by bashers, like:
WC Australia 4-0: Football minnows do not count
WC England 4-1: Shit team with shit tactics and the Lampard goal not
given
WC Argentina 4-0: Shit coach with shit tactics.
EC Qualy: 30points out of 10 games: Turkey, Austria and Belgium shit
teams and football minnows.
EC Portugal 1-0: Shitty Ronaldo and lots of luck for Germany.
EC Netherlands 2-1: Shit team with shit tactics and shit attitute and
even more shittier defense.
EC Denmak 2-1: Shit team and football minnow. Furthermore very lucky
Germany because of the Bendtner-Should-Be-A-Penalty-Incident
EC Greece 4-2: One of the most shitty teams ever. Wacker Burghausen
would have done better against them.
So, perhaps if Germany beat Italy, we will finally know, but then
again the German bashers will say:
EC Italy 4-1: Italy shit team, only with an old slow man (Pirlo), 2
days less rest and extra time. Germany still have to prove if there
are really good.
> 0-0 but should have been a 3-0 Italian win (1978)
> 1-1 after the ref gifted the Germans an indirect free-kick inside the
> box for alleged time wasting by Zenga (Euro 1988)
> But the streak is coming to an end on Thursday. This Germany side is far
> stronger than any of the previous versions, and Italy weaker. Plus, the
> 120 minutes versus England and two fewer days of rest make it an
> impossible uphill battle.
One might add that three players out of the present German
team (Neuer, Boateng, Özil; Khedira was injured, Hummels
came on in stoppage time) *do* know what it's like to beat Italy
in an international tournament by winning the semifinal of the
U21 Euro 2009 against them.
The Italian side back then had Balotelli, Abate and Giovinco.
> On 25 Jun., 02:59, Futbolmetrix <futbolmet...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > This one is going to be brief:
> > 4-3
> > 3-1
> > 2-0
> > And you can also add:
> > 0-0 but should have been a 3-0 Italian win (1978)
> > 1-1 after the ref gifted the Germans an indirect free-kick inside the
> > box for alleged time wasting by Zenga (Euro 1988)
> > But the streak is coming to an end on Thursday. This Germany side is far
> > stronger than any of the previous versions, and Italy weaker. Plus, the
> > 120 minutes versus England and two fewer days of rest make it an
> > impossible uphill battle.
> > D
> I hope we will have get answer on Thursday how strong this Germany
> team really is.
> Let's face the truth: Every single German success has been bashed with
> asterisks by bashers, like:
> WC Australia 4-0: Football minnows do not count
It counts. Australia were pretty good in that tournament.
> WC England 4-1: Shit team with shit tactics and the Lampard goal not
> given
There was luck here.
> WC Argentina 4-0: Shit coach with shit tactics.
4-0 score is a bit inflated. But otherwise Germany was the better
team.
> EC Qualy: 30points out of 10 games: Turkey, Austria and Belgium shit
> teams and football minnows.
Correct.
> EC Portugal 1-0: Shitty Ronaldo and lots of luck for Germany.
Nothing to do with Ronaldo. Germany got lucky with that goal. Else it
was a draw.
> EC Netherlands 2-1: Shit team with shit tactics and shit attitute and
> even more shittier defense.
Not a shit team, but not a team.
> EC Denmak 2-1: Shit team and football minnow. Furthermore very lucky
> Germany because of the Bendtner-Should-Be-A-Penalty-Incident
Not at all a shit team.
> EC Greece 4-2: One of the most shitty teams ever. Wacker Burghausen
> would have done better against them.
Yes.
> So, perhaps if Germany beat Italy, we will finally know, but then
> again the German bashers will say:
> EC Italy 4-1: Italy shit team, only with an old slow man (Pirlo), 2
> days less rest and extra time. Germany still have to prove if there
> are really good.- Hide quoted text -
Germany is not beating Italy 4-1. No one scores 4 goals against Italy.
When did this ever happen?
Germany is a good team but not as good as you think and still haven't
proven themselves. They can still prove themselves by winning Euro
2012. I don't think it is going to happen, but I am giving my full
support... objectively... something which you are incapable of doing.
If Germany are really as good as you think, they should be wiping the
floor with Brazil, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Netherlands, France,
Argentina, Uruguay who are in my opinion the best teams out there
along with them.
I hope Europe is prepared for the possibility of Germany going out in
the Semi's? What it will mean is that half of Germany will take their
holiday 3 days earlier, the airports and roads will be packed it will
be a crisis of the highest proportions. Can you imagine the gridlock,
ohhhhh the humanity!!!!
I am prepared for whatever happens, in fact my GF is at the World
Conference on Disaster Management in Toronto ( she really is). We will
have the cottage stocked up with Italian Chianti, Spanish Monastrell
and bottles of Port, just in case the German Brandy and beer does not
suffice! The final is going to be played on Kanada Day, so I will be
lighting off fireworks, no matter who wins.
Gotta stay away from the Vodka and Red Bull though, for all you kids
out there, it makes you crazy and when you crash, you really crash.
On Jun 26, 12:05 pm, Raja The Great <zepflo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 26, 9:50 am, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
> > On 25 Jun., 02:59, Futbolmetrix <futbolmet...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > This one is going to be brief:
> > > 4-3
> > > 3-1
> > > 2-0
> > > And you can also add:
> > > 0-0 but should have been a 3-0 Italian win (1978)
> > > 1-1 after the ref gifted the Germans an indirect free-kick inside the
> > > box for alleged time wasting by Zenga (Euro 1988)
> > > But the streak is coming to an end on Thursday. This Germany side is far
> > > stronger than any of the previous versions, and Italy weaker. Plus, the
> > > 120 minutes versus England and two fewer days of rest make it an
> > > impossible uphill battle.
> > > D
> > I hope we will have get answer on Thursday how strong this Germany
> > team really is.
> > Let's face the truth: Every single German success has been bashed with
> > asterisks by bashers, like:
> > WC Australia 4-0: Football minnows do not count
> It counts. Australia were pretty good in that tournament.
> > WC England 4-1: Shit team with shit tactics and the Lampard goal not
> > given
> There was luck here.
> > WC Argentina 4-0: Shit coach with shit tactics.
> 4-0 score is a bit inflated. But otherwise Germany was the better
> team.
> > EC Qualy: 30points out of 10 games: Turkey, Austria and Belgium shit
> > teams and football minnows.
> Correct.
> > EC Portugal 1-0: Shitty Ronaldo and lots of luck for Germany.
> Nothing to do with Ronaldo. Germany got lucky with that goal. Else it
> was a draw.
> > EC Netherlands 2-1: Shit team with shit tactics and shit attitute and
> > even more shittier defense.
> Not a shit team, but not a team.
> > EC Denmak 2-1: Shit team and football minnow. Furthermore very lucky
> > Germany because of the Bendtner-Should-Be-A-Penalty-Incident
> Not at all a shit team.
> > EC Greece 4-2: One of the most shitty teams ever. Wacker Burghausen
> > would have done better against them.
> Yes.
> > So, perhaps if Germany beat Italy, we will finally know, but then
> > again the German bashers will say:
> > EC Italy 4-1: Italy shit team, only with an old slow man (Pirlo), 2
> > days less rest and extra time. Germany still have to prove if there
> > are really good.- Hide quoted text -
> Germany is not beating Italy 4-1. No one scores 4 goals against Italy.
> When did this ever happen?
> Germany is a good team but not as good as you think and still haven't
> proven themselves. They can still prove themselves by winning Euro
> 2012. I don't think it is going to happen, but I am giving my full
> support... objectively... something which you are incapable of doing.
> If Germany are really as good as you think, they should be wiping the
> floor with Brazil, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Netherlands, France,
> Argentina, Uruguay who are in my opinion the best teams out there
> along with them.
> On Jun 26, 9:50 am, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
> > On 25 Jun., 02:59, Futbolmetrix <futbolmet...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > This one is going to be brief:
> > > 4-3
> > > 3-1
> > > 2-0
> > > And you can also add:
> > > 0-0 but should have been a 3-0 Italian win (1978)
> > > 1-1 after the ref gifted the Germans an indirect free-kick inside the
> > > box for alleged time wasting by Zenga (Euro 1988)
> > > But the streak is coming to an end on Thursday. This Germany side is far
> > > stronger than any of the previous versions, and Italy weaker. Plus, the
> > > 120 minutes versus England and two fewer days of rest make it an
> > > impossible uphill battle.
> > > D
> > I hope we will have get answer on Thursday how strong this Germany
> > team really is.
> > Let's face the truth: Every single German success has been bashed with
> > asterisks by bashers, like:
> > WC Australia 4-0: Football minnows do not count
> It counts. Australia were pretty good in that tournament.
> > WC England 4-1: Shit team with shit tactics and the Lampard goal not
> > given
> There was luck here.
> > WC Argentina 4-0: Shit coach with shit tactics.
> 4-0 score is a bit inflated. But otherwise Germany was the better
> team.
> > EC Qualy: 30points out of 10 games: Turkey, Austria and Belgium shit
> > teams and football minnows.
> Correct.
> > EC Portugal 1-0: Shitty Ronaldo and lots of luck for Germany.
> Nothing to do with Ronaldo. Germany got lucky with that goal. Else it
> was a draw.
> > EC Netherlands 2-1: Shit team with shit tactics and shit attitute and
> > even more shittier defense.
> Not a shit team, but not a team.
> > EC Denmak 2-1: Shit team and football minnow. Furthermore very lucky
> > Germany because of the Bendtner-Should-Be-A-Penalty-Incident
> Not at all a shit team.
> > EC Greece 4-2: One of the most shitty teams ever. Wacker Burghausen
> > would have done better against them.
> Yes.
> > So, perhaps if Germany beat Italy, we will finally know, but then
> > again the German bashers will say:
> > EC Italy 4-1: Italy shit team, only with an old slow man (Pirlo), 2
> > days less rest and extra time. Germany still have to prove if there
> > are really good.- Hide quoted text -
> Germany is not beating Italy 4-1. No one scores 4 goals against Italy.
> When did this ever happen?
> Germany is a good team but not as good as you think and still haven't
> proven themselves. They can still prove themselves by winning Euro
> 2012. I don't think it is going to happen, but I am giving my full
> support... objectively... something which you are incapable of doing.
> If Germany are really as good as you think, they should be wiping the
> floor with Brazil, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Netherlands, France,
> Argentina, Uruguay who are in my opinion the best teams out there
> along with them.
> > - Show quoted text -
I don't know what you have with Uruguay. They are even more than shit.
Their last win against UEFA Team was 1954, when they were really good.
Since then they are utter bullshit.
> On 26 Jun., 18:05, Raja The Great <zepflo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 26, 9:50 am, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
> > > On 25 Jun., 02:59, Futbolmetrix <futbolmet...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > This one is going to be brief:
> > > > 4-3
> > > > 3-1
> > > > 2-0
> > > > And you can also add:
> > > > 0-0 but should have been a 3-0 Italian win (1978)
> > > > 1-1 after the ref gifted the Germans an indirect free-kick inside the
> > > > box for alleged time wasting by Zenga (Euro 1988)
> > > > But the streak is coming to an end on Thursday. This Germany side is far
> > > > stronger than any of the previous versions, and Italy weaker. Plus, the
> > > > 120 minutes versus England and two fewer days of rest make it an
> > > > impossible uphill battle.
> > > > D
> > > I hope we will have get answer on Thursday how strong this Germany
> > > team really is.
> > > Let's face the truth: Every single German success has been bashed with
> > > asterisks by bashers, like:
> > > WC Australia 4-0: Football minnows do not count
> > It counts. Australia were pretty good in that tournament.
> > > WC England 4-1: Shit team with shit tactics and the Lampard goal not
> > > given
> > There was luck here.
> > > WC Argentina 4-0: Shit coach with shit tactics.
> > 4-0 score is a bit inflated. But otherwise Germany was the better
> > team.
> > > EC Qualy: 30points out of 10 games: Turkey, Austria and Belgium shit
> > > teams and football minnows.
> > Correct.
> > > EC Portugal 1-0: Shitty Ronaldo and lots of luck for Germany.
> > Nothing to do with Ronaldo. Germany got lucky with that goal. Else it
> > was a draw.
> > > EC Netherlands 2-1: Shit team with shit tactics and shit attitute and
> > > even more shittier defense.
> > Not a shit team, but not a team.
> > > EC Denmak 2-1: Shit team and football minnow. Furthermore very lucky
> > > Germany because of the Bendtner-Should-Be-A-Penalty-Incident
> > Not at all a shit team.
> > > EC Greece 4-2: One of the most shitty teams ever. Wacker Burghausen
> > > would have done better against them.
> > Yes.
> > > So, perhaps if Germany beat Italy, we will finally know, but then
> > > again the German bashers will say:
> > > EC Italy 4-1: Italy shit team, only with an old slow man (Pirlo), 2
> > > days less rest and extra time. Germany still have to prove if there
> > > are really good.- Hide quoted text -
> > Germany is not beating Italy 4-1. No one scores 4 goals against Italy.
> > When did this ever happen?
> > Germany is a good team but not as good as you think and still haven't
> > proven themselves. They can still prove themselves by winning Euro
> > 2012. I don't think it is going to happen, but I am giving my full
> > support... objectively... something which you are incapable of doing.
> > If Germany are really as good as you think, they should be wiping the
> > floor with Brazil, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Netherlands, France,
> > Argentina, Uruguay who are in my opinion the best teams out there
> > along with them.
> > > - Show quoted text -
> I don't know what you have with Uruguay. They are even more than shit.
> Their last win against UEFA Team was 1954, when they were really good.
> Since then they are utter bullshit.- Hide quoted text -
: I hope Europe is prepared for the possibility of Germany going out in
: the Semi's? What it will mean is that half of Germany will take their
: holiday 3 days earlier, the airports and roads will be packed it will
: be a crisis of the highest proportions. Can you imagine the gridlock,
: ohhhhh the humanity!!!!
They learned to stagger vacations a long time ago :-)
: I am prepared for whatever happens, in fact my GF is at the World
: Conference on Disaster Management in Toronto ( she really is). We will
: have the cottage stocked up with Italian Chianti, Spanish Monastrell
: and bottles of Port, just in case the German Brandy and beer does not
: suffice! The final is going to be played on Kanada Day, so I will be
: lighting off fireworks, no matter who wins.
Canada? No one will notice...
: Gotta stay away from the Vodka and Red Bull though, for all you kids
: out there, it makes you crazy and when you crash, you really crash.
Oh you poor man, some people are really, really self destructive :-))))
> > > > > 0-0 but should have been a 3-0 Italian win (1978)
> > > > > 1-1 after the ref gifted the Germans an indirect free-kick inside the
> > > > > box for alleged time wasting by Zenga (Euro 1988)
> > > > > But the streak is coming to an end on Thursday. This Germany side is far
> > > > > stronger than any of the previous versions, and Italy weaker. Plus, the
> > > > > 120 minutes versus England and two fewer days of rest make it an
> > > > > impossible uphill battle.
> > > > > D
> > > > I hope we will have get answer on Thursday how strong this Germany
> > > > team really is.
> > > > Let's face the truth: Every single German success has been bashed with
> > > > asterisks by bashers, like:
> > > > WC Australia 4-0: Football minnows do not count
> > > It counts. Australia were pretty good in that tournament.
> > > > WC England 4-1: Shit team with shit tactics and the Lampard goal not
> > > > given
> > > There was luck here.
> > > > WC Argentina 4-0: Shit coach with shit tactics.
> > > 4-0 score is a bit inflated. But otherwise Germany was the better
> > > team.
> > > > EC Qualy: 30points out of 10 games: Turkey, Austria and Belgium shit
> > > > teams and football minnows.
> > > Correct.
> > > > EC Portugal 1-0: Shitty Ronaldo and lots of luck for Germany.
> > > Nothing to do with Ronaldo. Germany got lucky with that goal. Else it
> > > was a draw.
> > > > EC Netherlands 2-1: Shit team with shit tactics and shit attitute and
> > > > even more shittier defense.
> > > Not a shit team, but not a team.
> > > > EC Denmak 2-1: Shit team and football minnow. Furthermore very lucky
> > > > Germany because of the Bendtner-Should-Be-A-Penalty-Incident
> > > Not at all a shit team.
> > > > EC Greece 4-2: One of the most shitty teams ever. Wacker Burghausen
> > > > would have done better against them.
> > > Yes.
> > > > So, perhaps if Germany beat Italy, we will finally know, but then
> > > > again the German bashers will say:
> > > > EC Italy 4-1: Italy shit team, only with an old slow man (Pirlo), 2
> > > > days less rest and extra time. Germany still have to prove if there
> > > > are really good.- Hide quoted text -
> > > Germany is not beating Italy 4-1. No one scores 4 goals against Italy.
> > > When did this ever happen?
> > > Germany is a good team but not as good as you think and still haven't
> > > proven themselves. They can still prove themselves by winning Euro
> > > 2012. I don't think it is going to happen, but I am giving my full
> > > support... objectively... something which you are incapable of doing.
> > > If Germany are really as good as you think, they should be wiping the
> > > floor with Brazil, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Netherlands, France,
> > > Argentina, Uruguay who are in my opinion the best teams out there
> > > along with them.
> > > > - Show quoted text -
> > I don't know what you have with Uruguay. They are even more than shit.
> > Their last win against UEFA Team was 1954, when they were really good.
> > Since then they are utter bullshit.- Hide quoted text -
>: But the streak is coming to an end on Thursday. This Germany side is far >: stronger than any of the previous versions, and Italy weaker. Plus, the >: 120 minutes versus England and two fewer days of rest make it an >: impossible uphill battle.
> And that excuse will be a frankly legitimate gripe should you need to
> invoke it. All for TV: the right thing to do would be to have the
> 1/4-Finals as doubleheaders.
Italy will have 3 days rest. Before the QF they had 5, so in total it's
3 games in 11 days. Shouldn't be a problem.
