VIDEO: France vs Ireland 1:1 - Henry hand and Goals & Highlights - WC play off
Bogues
referee, referee
Diabolik
"Bogues" <basd...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Henry would have to be the biggest cheat in football.
That was worst than Maradona's gol. At least with Maradona's it wasn't that
obvious.
Zfs..
> "Bogues" <basdf...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
I feel sick................... NEVER have I seen a goal as important
as that allowed under the most blantent CHEATING...
I'm proud to be Irish tonight... We played the French off the park yet
they go through... Shame on you Ballter and Planttini, shame on you !
Erin Go Bragh
Lolo
> I'm proud to be Irish tonight... We played the French off the park yet
> they go through... Shame on you Ballter and Planttini, shame on you !
O jee, nu hebben Blatter en Plantini het ook nog gedaan dan is Pieter
Vink vast de scheidsrechter geweest.
Louis
SHUSSBAR
Very unfortunate indeed. That was not pretty and glorious I agree. But
if Ireland failed to score, it s difficult to blame the French,
Blatter or Platini for that.
gaal
> http://tinyurl.com/France-vs-Eire-Hand-goal-VIDEO
>
> referee, referee
OMG
Orac
"Zfs.." <cian.s...@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
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Erin Go Bragh
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You have my sympathy. I think I counted three handballs, and it also looked
like offside to me, all in the same action/situation, and the refs didn't
see any of those fouls; or maybe they didn't want to see them.
SHUSSBAR
> "Zfs.." <cian.scrip...@gmail.com> schreef in berichtnews:a0e6669b-7c08-406a...@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
Happened before, still happens regularly, will happen in the future.
Sorry for ireland
Insane Ranter
WOW. How do you miss something that glaring??
gaal
waiting for the French to do a mistake and take advantage of it, it
would be different now. Trapattoni wanted a draw in the first game he
didnt get it, look at the ball possession in the first game, playing
10 men behind the ball is not the way to play at home, Italian
tactics (didnt pay this time). Why should Henry be banned ? May be
the ref should be not him, because Keane never uses his hands when he
plays ? come on, if Ireland was much better than France they should
have won both games... anyway, Ireland would have done the same and
no one would cry for foul now
YID ARMY
Only to wave and flap about when he's whining at the ref.
He may be a Pikey, but he's not a blatant thieving cheat like Henry.
gaal
Published: November 19, 2009
The recriminations over the hand ball that helped France edge Ireland
and secure a place in the World Cup finals reverberated widely
Thursday as Irish sports officials and politicians demanded the game
be replayed.
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With a place on soccer’s biggest stage at stake, Martin Hansson, the
Swedish referee, missed the foul in the buildup to the decisive French
goal. As well as igniting Irish indignation, the error sparked a
debate over how to reduce human error in refereeing and the meaning of
“fair play,” one of the slogans of soccer’s world governing body.
France and Ireland were paired in a two-match playoff for one of the
last places in the 32-team field in South Africa next year.
France won the first game, 1-0, in Dublin on Saturday. In the second
match, at the Stade de France on Wednesday, Robbie Keane, Ireland’s
captain, replied in the first half. That meant the aggregate score was
tied.
The match went to extra time. After 13 minutes, a bouncing ball eluded
the Irish defense. Henry corralled it and poked a pass into the
goalmouth leaving William Gallas an easy header to score. That goal
gave France a 2-1 aggregate victory.
The problem was that Henry controlled the ball with his hand.
Hansson and his assistants missed the handball. The cameras did not.
After the game Henry confessed to anyone with a notebook or
microphone.
“I will be honest, it was a hand ball. But I’m not the ref,” Henry
said. “I played it. The ref allowed it. That’s a question you should
ask him.”
Asked if he regretted the handball, he replied: “No, no, we’re
qualified.”
There’s the rub. Losing in a playoff for a World Cup is a very painful
defeat.
Unless the decision is reversed, which is unlikely, France is going to
South Africa. It will play at least three group games. As the losing
finalist in 2006, it should receive a favorable seeding and, despite
its lackluster recent play can expect to prolong its appearance in the
world’s biggest sporting event deep into the knockout stages. Among
its audience will be those Irish players, and fans, who can bear to
watch.
“We feel cheated,” Sean St. Ledger, an Irish defender, said. The
handball, he added, “has cost a lot of us our dreams.”
On Thursday, the Football Association of Ireland demanded a rematch.
“The blatantly incorrect decision by the referee to award the goal has
damaged the integrity of the sport and we now call on FIFA, as the
world governing body for our sport, to organize for this match to be
replayed,” a statement by the F.A.I. said.
FIFA responded that it was looking at Ireland’s request for a replay.
In Paris, Giovanni Trapattoni, the veteran Italian coach who led the
Irish team, dismissed the idea of a replay.
“I cannot ask this because I know it is impossible,” he said. “When a
referee decides, it ends the game for me.”
The Irish federation had an answer to that: There is a well-known
precedent.
“In 2005 the bureau of the FIFA World Cup organizing committee reached
a decision to invalidate the result of a World Cup qualification match
between Uzbekistan and Bahrain on the basis of a ‘technical error by
the referee,”’ the Irish statement said.
But on that occasion, the referee, Toshimitsu Yoshida of Japan, had
correctly seen what happened but made a basic error in his
understanding of soccer law and deprived the Uzbekhs of a possible
goal. Another difference: Bahrain, a significant force in FIFA,
benefited from the replay.
On Wednesday night, Trapattoni immediately brought up the issue of
fair play at his press conference.
“It’s about fair play,” the Irish coach said. In case anyone missed
the point he added: “Fair play. Fair play. Fair play.”
FIFA has given Fair Play awards since the 1970 World Cup, but its Web
site says that the “Fair Play” campaign followed a similar controversy
at the 1986 World Cup in Mexico, when Diego Maradona punched the ball
into the England goal. After Argentina had won, 2-1, he referred to
the goal as “The Hand of God.” Yet, the FIFA Web site makes clear, it
was not Maradona’s cheating that inspired the campaign. It was the
“admirable” reaction of the late Bobby Robson, the England manager.
Robson did not demand the game be replayed.
On Thursday, even critics in France were crying foul play. The union
of physical education teachers, Snep-FSU, criticized its victorious
national team.
“The France team will go to South Africa courtesy of unquestionable
cheating that highlights the downward spiral affecting football
today,” the union said. “Snep condemns and challenges statements by
Coach Raymond Domenech and some of his players saying the main thing
in sport is to win.”
Trapattoni called on the soccer authorities to consider video reviews
because the injustice suffered by Ireland “can be repeated in the
future. That’s why we have to stop it.”
Others called for the less time-consuming option of broadening a FIFA
experiment with additional officials behind the goals.
At his press conference after the game, Raymond Domenech, the French
coach said: “These things even out.”
Henry pointed out that a couple of minutes before the Gallas goal,
Shay Given, the Irish goalie, seemed to have yanked down Nicolas
Anelka in the penalty area. Hansson missed that, too.
Trapattoni mischievously suggested that Hansson should have asked
Henry before awarding the goal.
But earlier in the game, Keane had controlled the ball with his hand
in front of the goal and been caught by Hansson. If the Irish captain
had not been caught, how would he, and Trapattoni, have answered?
Pope Pompous XVIII
> On Nov 19, 12:04 am, "Diabolik" <Diabo...@noemail.com> wrote:
>> "Bogues" <basdf...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:9fa77c78-3fc1-4f84-9f29-
f2e31d...@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >http://tinyurl.com/France-vs-Eire-Hand-goal-VIDEO
>>
>> Henry would have to be the biggest cheat in football.
>>
>> That was worst than Maradona's gol. At least with Maradona's it wasn't
>> that obvious.
>
> I feel sick................... NEVER have I seen a goal as important as
> that allowed under the most blantent CHEATING...
>
> I'm proud to be Irish tonight... We played the French off the park yet
> they go through... Shame on you Ballter and Planttini, shame on you !
>
> Erin Go Bragh
You have a short - or selective - memory. Have you forgotten how France
leaned on Ireland to replay last year's Lisbon referendum when they
didn't get the result they wanted?
"The first victims would be the Irish" if they do not vote Yes - Bernard
Kouchner, French foreign minister, before Lisbon I, 2008
And guess who voted Yes the second time around, riding roughshod over
Irish democracy in the process, all for the promise of Brussels Billions
to save Irish (public "service") jobs.
You did.
You accepted French Might over Irish Rights in Lisbon, so don't fucking
whinge now that French Might prevails over Irish Rights in World Cup 2010.
--
"We all want progress. But progress means getting nearer to the place
where you want to be. And if you have taken a wrong turning, then to go
forward does not get you any nearer. If you are on the wrong road,
progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road;
and in that case the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive
man" — C.S. Lewis, /Mere Christianity/
YID ARMY
"Pope Pompous XVIII" <popepomp...@iol.ie> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:29:00 -0800, Zfs.. wrote:
>
>> On Nov 19, 12:04 am, "Diabolik" <Diabo...@noemail.com> wrote:
>>> "Bogues" <basdf...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:9fa77c78-3fc1-4f84-9f29-
> f2e31d...@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> >http://tinyurl.com/France-vs-Eire-Hand-goal-VIDEO
>>>
>>> Henry would have to be the biggest cheat in football.
>>>
>>> That was worst than Maradona's gol. At least with Maradona's it wasn't
>>> that obvious.
>>
>> I feel sick................... NEVER have I seen a goal as important as
>> that allowed under the most blantent CHEATING...
>>
>> I'm proud to be Irish tonight... We played the French off the park yet
>> they go through... Shame on you Ballter and Planttini, shame on you !
>>
>> Erin Go Bragh
>
>
> You have a short - or selective - memory. Have you forgotten how France
> leaned on Ireland to replay last year's Lisbon referendum when they
> didn't get the result they wanted?
Are you saying that Ireland is France's bitch??
Because that's stating the obvious, Pope.
Pope Pompous XVIII
That's one way of putting it. If certain Irish people are going to bow
to French power and ride roughshod over the No vote of June 2008 by
delivering their whimpering Yes in the stitched-up referendum of October
2009 then they can have no cause for complaint when the French cheat
their way to World Cup 2010.
Not all that long ago Zfs was in this newsgroup celebrating the very same
trick France played on Irish democracy last year, and publicly
proclaiming how his very own Yes vote had helped the cheats bulldoze
their Cheats' Charter through in complete defiance of Lisbon I.
And now he wants our sympathy?
Tommy
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Whilst robbie is not a pikey (I believe thats a derogatory term for a
tinker), he did and he does handle the ball.
He was penalised at least 4 times for handling during the
Ireland/France game. And I've stated previously that I believe he
should have been (unpopular as that makes me) carded at least once for
continuous fouling.
And truly, if he or Duffer had handled the ball into the French net,
we'd have been giving the French the fingers, and I'd even allow the
Brits to do likewise - honest !
Incidentally that Lyon keeper had a flipping marvellous game (the
Frenchy bastid:) )
Cheers
YID ARMY
team that pay his wages.
I'll bet he'll be 'too knackered' to play on Sunday - at least I hope so!!
"Tommy" <tommyle...@geeupmail.ie> wrote in message
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Tommy
> Just a shame he doesn't bother to put in any effort or performances
> for the team that pay his wages.
> I'll bet he'll be 'too knackered' to play on Sunday - at least I
> hope so!!
I think he tries his best. He's not a naturally great player.
reminds me a bit of John Aldridge - always manages to be in the right
place at the right time.
You know one of the hardest things a footballing forward has to learn
and some never do, is to anticipate (read) where the aerial ball is
going to come down, and to be within feet of that spot, and protecting
it when the ball arrives. Backs and midfielders group in bunches so
they have more room for errors. Very often Keane plays lone striker.
On Saturday, he was the receiver and he received excellently, but
didn't have someone to feed. He does get goals though.
Cheers
Tommy