Art Or Not
HILL JANET SWAN
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>> Karate et al is a sport under what is called "Martial Arts*" ^^^
>> Interesting eh? { : > )
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>Believe it or not, Martial arts *are* artistic in a different way from
>dance or figure skating.
That tears it. Off to the dictionary .......
American Heritage Dictionary: (see especially art #8)
Art 1) Human effort to imitates, supplement, alter, or counteract the work
of nature. 2) Ths conscious production or arrangement os sounds, Colors,
forms, movements, or other elements in a manner that affects the sense of
beauty; specifically the production of the beautiful in a graphic or
plastic medium. 3) The product of these activities; human works of
beauty, collectively. 4) High quality of conception or execution, as
found in works of beauty; aesthetic value. 5) Any field or category of
art, such as music, ballet, or literature. 6) A nonscientific branch of
learning; one of the *liberal arts* 7) a. A system of principles and
methods imployed in the performance of a set of activities: *the art
of building* b. A trade or craft that applies such a system of
principles and methods: *pursuing the baker's art* 8) A specific
skill in adept performance, conceived as requiring the exercise of
intuitive faculties that cannot be learned solely by study: *the art of
writing letters* .....
Artist. 1) One who creates works of art, especially a painter or
sculptor. 2) Any person who performs his work as if it were an art
Artistic. 1) Of, relating to, or befitting art or artists. 2)
Appreciative or or sensitive to art or beauty.
Artistry. 1) Artistic ability, quality, or workmanship. 2) The practice
or occupation of an artist.
From the above, I conclude that no matter what its status as a sport may
be, figure skating is an art; those who master figure skating are
artists, and thus, by definition, have "artistry".
janet
Revjoelle
>From the above, I conclude that no matter what its status as a sport may
be, figure skating is an art; those who master figure skating are
artists, and thus, by definition, have "artistry".
Okay. I would say all world class skaters have mastered figure skating,
ergo-all world class skaters are artists, their programs have
artistry...it's just that some art appeals to some more than others.
So I must amend my statement...doesn't matter if you like a skater or not,
they all have artistry.
Joelle
"I feel 100% confident that I can overcome this disease and be
back on the ice within a few months" - Scott Hamilton
Notdeby
In article <5mui8c$p...@lace.colorado.edu>, hil...@spot.Colorado.EDU (HILL
JANET SWAN) writes:
>From the above, I conclude that no matter what its status as a sport may
>be, figure skating is an art; those who master figure skating are
>artists, and thus, by definition, have "artistry".
Faulty conclusion "). You've forgotten "intention" and "intuition." At
the very least ").
Anyways, I just don't buy that art is all things to all people in every
and any way or that it's whatever anyone wants it to be and thinks it is.
Or that everybody's an artist. Some of us spend our lifetime at it, go to
school to study it, consider it, curse it, breathe it, lose sleep over it,
wrestle with it our entire lives. Just because someone works in a medium
that can 'possibly' be considered art, even if they become very skilled in
it, doesn't make them an artist, nor does it guarantee artistry. Art is
more than just something somebody likes.
Now...here's something else to ponder...is 'bad' art still art? Or is "bad
art" an oxymoron?
Just a little something to chew on for all my fellow newsgroup hounds
")...
NotDeby
"What a luxury it is to be alive, and female, and in a liquid state because of such male beauty." - Various.
"(My mind is) like a high-speed computer. But it only doodles."
- Rosie O'Donnell
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"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
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Revjoelle
NotDeby asks the question:
>Now...here's something else to ponder...is 'bad' art still art? Or is
"bad
art" an oxymoron?
Okay..now I've got it. Every skater is an artist. The skaters I like do
"good" art.
The ones I don't do "bad" art. :-)