US National Men's Final RESULTS
Louis Epstein
Note carefully the echo of 1993...
Michael Chack pulled WAY up in the standings in his long...
but was chacked while we saw five guys skate worse!!
CHAMPIONSHIP MEN
1998 U.S. FIGURE SKATING CHAMPIONSHIPS
*** FINAL STANDINGS ***
SP FS FACTORED PLACES
1. 1 1 Todd J. Eldredge 1.5
2. 2 2 Michael G. Weiss 3.0
3. 3 3 Scott Davis 4.5
4. 4 4 Shepherd W. Clark 6.0
5. 9 5 Derrick C. Delmore 9.5
6. 7 6 Dan P. Hollander 9.5
7. 5 9 Trifun Zivanovic 11.5
8. 11 8 Ryan P. Jahnke 13.5
9. 14 7 Michael A. Chack 14.0
10. 10 11 Matthew Kessinger 16.0
11. 13 10 Matthew J. Savoie 16.5
12. 8 13 John Baldwin 17.0
13. 12 12 Jere L. Michael 18.0
14. 16 14 Jeff A. Merica 22.0
15. 15 15 Eric R. Bohnstedt 22.5
16. 18 16 Brian E. Buetsch 25.0
17. 17 17 Michael E. Edgren 25.5
6 Timothy R. Goebel
ACCOUNTANT REFEREE
Morton Rosenstein Bette Snuggerud
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CHAMPIONSHIP MEN
1998 STATE FARM U.S. FIGURE SKATING CHAMPIONSHIPS
*** STANDINGS FOR THE FREE SKATING ***
JUDGES
1 Nancy Bizzano 2 Joan Gruber
3 Deborah Currie 4 Gale Tanger
5 Lawrence Mondschein 6 Kathleen Flaherty
7 Joan Burns 8 Lorrie Parker
9 Jon Jackson
Fact.
-1--2--3--4--5--6--7--8--9-Maj Place
1 Todd J. Eldredge 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 7/1 1.0
2 Michael G. Weiss 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 2 2 9/2 2.0
3 Scott Davis 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 9/3 3.0
4 Shepherd W. Clark 4 4 4 5 6 4 4 4 4 7/4 4.0
5 Derrick C. Delmore 7 6 6 4 4 5 6 5 7 7/6 5.0
6 Dan P. Hollander 5 5 5 6 7 8 7 8 6 5/6 6.0
7 Michael A. Chack 9 7 7 7 5 7 9 7 5 7/7 7.0
8 Ryan P. Jahnke 6 8 8 8 9 6 8 6 8 8/8 8.0
9 Trifun Zivanovic 8 10 9 11 10 10 5 9 9 5/9 9.0
10 Matthew J. Savoie 10 11 11 9 8 9 10 10 12 6/10 10.0
11 Matthew Kessinger 12 9 10 10 12 12 11 11 10 6/11 11.0
12 Jere L. Michael 11 12 12 12 11 11 12 12 11 9/12 12.0
13 John Baldwin 15 13 13 14 13 14 14 13 14 8/14 13.0
14 Jeff A. Merica 14 14 14 13 15 13 13 15 13 7/14 14.0
15 Eric R. Bohnstedt 13 16 15 16 14 15 17 14 15 6/15 15.0
16 Brian E. Buetsch 17 15 16 15 16 16 15 16 16 8/16 16.0
17 Michael E. Edgren 16 17 17 17 17 17 16 17 17 9/17 17.0
ACCOUNTANT REFEREE
Morton Rosenstein Bette Snuggerud
Louis Epstein
lutz...@hotmail.com wrote:
: On Fri, 9 Jan 1998 06:11:23 GMT, l...@put.com (Louis Epstein) wrote:
:
: >Note carefully the echo of 1993...
: >
: >Michael Chack pulled WAY up in the standings in his long...
: >but was chacked while we saw five guys skate worse!!
: Not sure, but would this have anything to do with Chack skating in the
: first group? I thought this was live in the East Coast *sigh*
Yes,it was live in the East...they played ladies' tapes as the first
group skated.In '93 Chack was in the second group,and they only showed
the third.But in each case,he skated better than those who skated later
until toward the end.
Chelsea Christenson
Louis Epstein wrote:
>
> Note carefully the echo of 1993...
>
> Michael Chack pulled WAY up in the standings in his long...
> but was chacked while we saw five guys skate worse!!
The coverage was live, Michael Chack skated in the first group and ABC
broadcast only the last two groups. It wasn't a conscious decision on
their part not to show him.
Louis Epstein
Chelsea Christenson (cchr...@xusx.oracle.com) wrote:
They still could have taped it and shown it in the resurfacing break.
His skating earlier was the 1993 excuse also.
Ellen B. Edgerton
Chelsea Christenson (cchr...@xusx.oracle.com) wrote:
: Louis Epstein wrote:
: >
: > Note carefully the echo of 1993...
: >
: > Michael Chack pulled WAY up in the standings in his long...
: > but was chacked while we saw five guys skate worse!!
: The coverage was live, Michael Chack skated in the first group and ABC
: broadcast only the last two groups. It wasn't a conscious decision on
: their part not to show him.
I agree. I also think people are overusing the word "chack" and using it
as a general word for "They didn't show him." The reason why it was
outrageous in 1993 was because Michael got a bronze with that free skate.
It wasn't because they simply didn't show him.
I understand that Michael skated OK in his free skate last night, and
while I would have liked the chance to see it, how high could he have
pulled up with that skate after being in such a hole after the SP?
(answer: 9th) In terms of significance to the competition, you can hardly
compare what happened with Michael in '93 re ABC's non-broadcast, and what
happened this year.
It's cute how everyone uses the word "chack" in a watered-down sense now,
but people are forgetting that that isn't what the term originally meant.
The word is getting overused, and while it's keeping Michael Chack's name
alive, it's not keeping alive the outrage at what ABC did in '93! :-)
Though Michael will be immortal among skatefans forever. Skatefans will
remember his name long after they have forgotten Stojko, Eldredge,
Boitano, Button, Henie... :-)
Louis Epstein
Ellen B. Edgerton (ebed...@newstand.syr.edu) wrote:
: Chelsea Christenson (cchr...@xusx.oracle.com) wrote:
: : Louis Epstein wrote:
: : >
: : > Note carefully the echo of 1993...
: : >
: : > Michael Chack pulled WAY up in the standings in his long...
: : > but was chacked while we saw five guys skate worse!!
:
: : The coverage was live, Michael Chack skated in the first group and ABC
: : broadcast only the last two groups. It wasn't a conscious decision on
: : their part not to show him.
:
: I agree. I also think people are overusing the word "chack" and using it
: as a general word for "They didn't show him." The reason why it was
: outrageous in 1993 was because Michael got a bronze with that free skate.
: It wasn't because they simply didn't show him.
But he had already skated before they went on the air,same as this time.
: I understand that Michael skated OK in his free skate last night, and
: while I would have liked the chance to see it, how high could he have
: pulled up with that skate after being in such a hole after the SP?
: (answer: 9th) In terms of significance to the competition, you can hardly
: compare what happened with Michael in '93 re ABC's non-broadcast, and what
: happened this year.
But he pulled up five places this time,I believe he only moved up
four places in 1993...they showed us five people whose longs
ranked below his,vs. four in 1993.
: It's cute how everyone uses the word "chack" in a watered-down sense now,
: but people are forgetting that that isn't what the term originally meant.
: The word is getting overused, and while it's keeping Michael Chack's name
: alive, it's not keeping alive the outrage at what ABC did in '93! :-)
:
: Though Michael will be immortal among skatefans forever. Skatefans will
: remember his name long after they have forgotten Stojko, Eldredge,
: Boitano, Button, Henie... :-)
That I wonder about.