http://tinyurl.com/haka2006
http://tinyurl.com/haka2008
In both cases Wales were belted by 30 points, or thereabouts. Game on,
fuckers!
--
$ cat /dev/null > foo.mg
Where it JUST you I could dismiss this as excitable fanboy chatter but
it's not.
Don't you think it's sad that the haka has become almost as talked about
as the game?
Mike
Fuck off, you're not Welsh.
> Don't you think it's sad that the haka has become almost as talked about
> as the game?
>
> Mike
Only in Wales, I don't remember the haka being so controversial in any other
arena... This decade anyway. Wales were good 100 years ago and briefly 60
years ago.... but these days they're just shite and they should behave
accordingly!
A great grandfather on my fathers side was welsh but you posted on a
public forum therefore anyone has the right to respond, welsh or not.
>> Don't you think it's sad that the haka has become almost as talked
>> about as the game?
>>
>> Mike
>
> Only in Wales, I don't remember the haka being so controversial in any
> other arena... This decade anyway. Wales were good 100 years ago and
> briefly 60 years ago.... but these days they're just shite and they
> should behave accordingly!
Just about every other match the ABs play someone seems to disrespect
it, they either tun their backs, stare too hard or just want to have a
sing song afterward.
Just out of curiosity, how should they behave mg?
Mike
not answering for mg ( in any way ) the Haka should be with the cultural
stuff, than the anthems and on with the game.
> Just out of curiosity, how should they behave mg?
If they feel up to the challenge they may perform a traditional folk dance,
with top hats and canes.
But not AFTER the haka, right? Last time someone tried to get the last
'word' the AB threw their collective handbags out of the pram.
BTW not a top hat in sight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIOS19WzEZM
Mike
BTW I gave up watching the you tube link after 30secs - I strongly
advise you do the same!
Mike
Uh. It's entirely commonplace for other countries with challenges -
e.g. Samoa, Tonga, Fiji - to do theirs at the same time as the Haka.
Cheers
Brent
Mike, you keep that kind of shit on ice please.
The Welsh should do what Twickenham did last year with "Swing Low" and drown
it out with their own song. If the Haka is a challenge, then the
"challenged" should be allowed to reply how they see fit. The AB's always
want to have it their way or else throw a tantrum.
> Mike wrote:
>> Massive Gonads wrote:
>>> "Mike" <mikelovescham...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hcovv5$ep5$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> Massive Gonads wrote:
>>>>> I wonder what Wales will have in response to the haka this
>>>>> weekend... 2008 was pretty lame, they just stood there like stunned
>>>>> mullets, delaying the game even more. In 2006 the Welsh Rugby Union
>>>>> had a cry about the timing of the haka and it was performed in the
>>>>> change room. Youtube below:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/haka2006
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/haka2008
>>>>>
>>>>> In both cases Wales were belted by 30 points, or thereabouts. Game
>>>>> on, fuckers!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where it JUST you I could dismiss this as excitable fanboy chatter
>>>> but it's not.
>>>
>>> Fuck off, you're not Welsh.
>>
>> A great grandfather on my fathers side was welsh
>
> Mike, you keep that kind of shit on ice please.
You mean Taffy Mike?
*shudder*
What *was* he thinking disclosing that to the general public?. ugh.
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The Haka is as much part of the game as the oval ball. Deal with it.
Jolly
===================================================
The Haka is not part of the game of rugby nor rugby about the Haka. The Haka
is a cultural thing. If the NZers or whoever want to do it, so be it but
don't be so bloody precious about it.
______________
No-one is being precious Chucky, it's just what we do, as do Samoa,
Fiji, and Tonga.
Cheers
Stephen
I only see a certain section being precious about it. Your complaints
would have some veracity if you were making them of every other
nation, but they don't keep beating you do they..?
______________
============================
Cool so if other teams ignore it or drop their pants and brown eye it or
whatever we won't see endless threads about "disrespecting the haka" on this
ng
=================================================
Same applies to all nations but it is the NZers who seem to get so precious
about the Haka. I have a simple solution:- cultural things, the anthems and
than the game. The Haka has got nothing to do with rugby as such
"Mike" <mikelovescham...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:hcovv5$ep5$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
The haka is the dullest subject on rsru.
Andrew
Haka and rugby have been around for as long as the Wallabies. My point
still stands; Your complaints would have some veracity if you were
making them of every other nation, but they don't keep beating you do
they..? So it obviously isn't the New Zealanders getting precious
about it.
BTW you barely literate monkey;
Then: Used as a time marker or to reiterate a sequence of events.
Than: A subordinating conjunction, which means that it establishes
some sort of relationship between two clauses.
It isn't the kiwis who ever start these haka threads.
Cheers
Stephen
It is the NZers who get all precious about
>
> BTW you barely literate monkey;
> Then: Used as a time marker or to reiterate a sequence of events.
> Than: A subordinating conjunction, which means that it establishes
> some sort of relationship between two clauses.
WOW a grammar flame!!! Good to see that it is not only the Haka that you
get all precious about
>It isn't the kiwis who ever start these haka threads.
>Cheers
>Stephen
------------------------------
Remind me, what is the nationality of the OP?
"Road_Hog" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:hcqkj9$191$1...@aioe.org...
I understand he is a citizen of the world.
Claims to have a kiwi connection but the reality is that his application was
turned down.
Andrew
about, about what?
> > BTW you barely literate monkey;
> > Then: Used as a time marker or to reiterate a sequence of events.
> > Than: A subordinating conjunction, which means that it establishes
> > some sort of relationship between two clauses.
>
> WOW a grammar flame!!!
The expected response of a person with barely enough functioning
synapses to know the difference between how words and their component
parts combine to form sentences and what words actually mean.
But yet again de chuckwit has drawn another into the pit of death
instead of actually addressing the point raised. I'll escape whilst
possible. Respond at your leisure you dribbling baboon.
Because:- by claiming that sheep and the Haka were not the most precious
thing in the world and not hitting the immigration officer with a handbag
when he got angry he proved he was not a true NZer
ffs try and keep up
> But yet again de chuckwit has drawn another into the pit of death
> instead of actually addressing the point raised. I'll escape whilst
> possible. Respond at your leisure you dribbling baboon.
You have drawn me into a OT situatation by a grammar flame WOW I hope you
feel good
JR is a neutral, chuck. He obviously enjoys it.
Two Dogs
Australian actually...
Two Dogs
No, by saying that everywhere in the world except Sydney is a crap
place to live, by thinking steak quality determines cuisine standards,
by being proven to be a full on bullshitter, he has proven beyond
doubt to anyone with any brains at all that he's irrevocably
Australian...
Two Dogs
No, by saying that everywhere in the world except Sydney is a crap
=============================================
If you think Sydney is a great place to live you truly are a NZer
snip
> No, by saying that everywhere in the world except Sydney is a crap
> place to live, by thinking steak quality determines cuisine standards,
> by being proven to be a full on bullshitter, he has proven beyond
> doubt to anyone with any brains at all that he's irrevocably
> Australian...
Oh bollocks, when was I "proven to be a full on bullshitter" ... I must have
missed that thread.
You're spot on about Sydney and steak though, you're just jealous - you live
in Arizona and enjoy gumbo.
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True, perhaps my subject was not sarcastic enough?
"dechucka" <vo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:EoadnZjQuPpejG3X...@westnet.com.au...
> not answering for mg ( in any way ) the Haka should be with the cultural
> stuff, than the anthems and on with the game.
For the record I agree, I think it gives the All Blacks an unfair advantage.
I'd be ok with it being restricted to the change room for away games, good
luck trying to remove it from a home game though.
Come on Chucky... surely by now you know I'm Sef Efrican...
Tell you what, I would demand my money back if I should ever pay to
see a game in which NZ does'nt do a Haka that would shake Captain Cook
in his grave. They have come close recently with the more gay
versions of the Haka though...
Jolly
Bullshit. The Haka is an institution now and EVERY time the ABs do it,
the pub/audience pay attention.
Stop being such a precious little killjoy.
Cheers
Stephen
So if the welsh boys dance WITH them the AB won't go off and dance in
the dressing room?
Problem solved, maybe they can meet after the game and exchange makeup
and hair grooming tips as well.
Mike
pft, if anything the Aussies combat it the best by leaving their tracksuits
on before singing a song about a dude who likes sheep, lol.
I'm 1/8th welsh that's like the bit below my left knee, I have far more
shameful secrets Klitty ....
Mike
Sexual rivalry eh, that might worry the AB enough to put them off their
game now and again.
Mike
"Road_Hog" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:hcqkj9$191$1...@aioe.org...
>
Enjoy the game Road_Hog, I've not seen the Welsh play since Fiji knocked
them out of the 2007 Rugby World Cup so I'm not sure how your form is, not
that it matters - All Blacks by 30.
Nice deflection of being wrong!
Cheers
Brent
Australian.
Cheers
Brent
Started by its dullest poster. It's a perfect storm of dull.
Cheers
Brent
I prefer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxGgXCRgNPM
JH
"Brent Hadley" <the_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f00f51ff-ceb4-4599...@d5g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
oh diddums, lol.
Challenge my arse, just get on with the bloody game.
JH
It is totally precious. Do it before the anthems if at all. and the
same goes for anyone else who wishes to express their bloody culture.
JH
So keen to hasten your team's demise?
Cheers
Brent
Not just on rsru
JH
I tend to go and make a coffee. Maybe you pay attention but don't
presume to speak for me
JH
Any team would be worried with you hanging around stroking your mongrel,
mikey!
No just can't abide the Haka, or the cant that surrounds it.
JH
That is stretching the truth a bit, and I fear Daaaave Two Dogs may call me
on it. I know of Hook a 10 foot 10 and Williams the 4 foot 14. There is
probably some hairy guys in the front row, but I forget their names.
Williams?
Yes John, but that's because you're a relic of a bygone age where
you'd form up in ranks and shoot people who performed a haka.
Cheers
Brent
"johnmhill" <jo...@huntersm.com> wrote in message
news:aea8948a-4ae4-42fd...@r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
You being English and the haka lasting only about 30 seconds, I presume
that's an instant 'coffee'.
<snip>
Andrew
Oh please.
OK. Most people. Except John. And "insert usual whining kill joys here".
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More Gareth Keenan than John Chard...
The best Australian Lamb produced sits in the supermarket just down
the road from me. Money talks, you get the leftovers.
If your steak was any good it would be here as well, but apparently
only McDonalds bothers to buy Australian beef.
You've been conned
Two Dogs
He got expelled from his birth nationality when he moved to Aus and
bought his go-faster-plastic pratmobile. He thinks its a special car
but he seems to be the only one on this ng with that opinion.
That is a fine idea Brent, a very fine idea.
JH
Well Chard wouldn't have had anything to do with forming up in ranks
under normal circumstances, he was a Royal Engineers officer, but, he
was senior to Bromhead and therefore assumed command. Incidentally the
soldiers were not all Welsh either, the 24th of foot Regimental number
was taken by the South Wales Borderers but most of Bromhead's men were
from Shropshire, Harry Hook was a Londoner and later a Sergeant in the
1st (Volunteer) Batallion 7th of Foot, the Royal Fusiliers
(Coincidentally Chard's uncle was a Colonel in the Royal Fusiliers),
Fred Hitch was also a Londer and became a London Cabby.
I served in the successor to 1st (Volunteer) Batallion 7th of Foot at
Balham in London
JH
Jeez, John - give us a break. We spend 5 minutes expressing our
culture and you have a cow. Then your lot goes and spends the next 80
minutes expressing their culture by losing, and do you hear a peep
from us? No, you do not. It's just what you do and we accept that.
--
greig
[...]
>
>Cool so if other teams ignore it or drop their pants and brown eye it or
>whatever we won't see endless threads about "disrespecting the haka" on this
>ng
Other teams can do what they want. And honestly, when have you ever
seen a thread on RSRU about "disrespecting the haka"? What a load of
rot - google one up if you can. You'll find way more threads from the
likes of yourself and John Hill about how it annoys you, but bugger
all from Kiwis about "disrespect".
--
greig
Rubbish. Think All Blacks, think the Haka. Even people who don't know
rugby know about the Haka and the All Blacks. It may be a cultural
"thing" for many New Zealanders, but it's a rugby icon for pretty much
the rest of the world. It is indelibly associated with rugby and the
All Blacks, and that, I'm guessing, is precisely why it winds you up
so much.
Richard Bridgman
Well said. I don't know what johnhill's problem with it is either, but
it's a tad like UD's claims of "not bothering" to watch these
Internationals as they are meaningless cash cows for the IRFU.
I'm bored with this thread. How about a discussion of the physics of
passing a rugby ball?
Cheers
Stephen
>I wonder what Wales will have in response to the haka this weekend... 2008
>was pretty lame, they just stood there like stunned mullets, delaying the
>game even more. In 2006 the Welsh Rugby Union had a cry about the timing of
>the haka and it was performed in the change room. Youtube below:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/haka2006
>http://tinyurl.com/haka2008
>
>In both cases Wales were belted by 30 points, or thereabouts. Game on,
>fuckers!
As long as the AB's don't do the Te Rauparaha cowardly lament - who
gives a toss.
Just get on with the freeking game - dancing around shouting about
hiding in a kumera pit looking at an old womens twat while the
neighbouring tribe that you had just raided, killed and eaten a couple
of their warriors is searching for you - is not an appropriate way to
start an international rugby match.
http://folksong.org.nz/kikiki/indexTeRaAdults.html
Full version
Kikiki kakaka!
Kikiki kakaka kau ana!
Kei waniwania taku tara,
Kei tara wahia kei te rua i te kerokero!
He pounga rahui te uira ka rarapa;
Ketekete kau ana, to peru kairiri:
Mau au e koro e.
Ka wehi au ka matakana.
Ko wai te tangata kia rere ure
Tirohanga nga rua rerarera,
Nga rua kuri kakanui i raro?
Ka mate! Ka mate!
Ka ora! Ka ora!
Tenei te tangata puhuruhuru
Nana nei i tiki mai whakawhiti te ra!
Upane, ka upane!
Whiti te ra!
Translation
I'm jabbering and quivering,
stuttering, shaking and naked!
I'm brushed by your crotch
a cleft mound, a pulsating cavern!
Forbidden mysteries are revealed;
banter and intimacy, your flushed face:
I am caught in your noose.
I'm scared but fully alert.
Who is this man with a thrusting shaft
investigating the hot moist depths,
the squirming pungent depths below?
I am dying, I'm dead!
No, I'm alive, fully alive!
a virile man
who can bring joy and peace!
Together, side by side
We can make the sun shine!
>The British were prudes concerning sexual stories, so they were told that the first section of the haka explained how the incantations of his enemies were absorbed by Te Rangikoaea, while the second section told how Te Rauparaha had to whisper to her to prevent her moving away to her sleeping hut to satisfy her sexually aroused husband.
>
>In truth, Wharerangi would have had a lot more urgent matters on his mind than taking his wife away for a spot of conjugal relaxation. He was faced with a vigilante group who would have annihilated his entire village if they had got an inkling that he was assisting Te Rauparaha. However this explanation of the words allowed the haka to be used in the presence of British settlers whose distorted morality condemned sexual frankness, even though they approved of wholesale land theft.
>
>As the years have passed by, Kikiki/Ka Mate has gone from being a haka 'about' Te Rauparaha to one 'composed by' Te Rauparaha, although James Cowan wrote in 1935
>
> "There is no good Maori authority for this story. The fact is that "Ka mate, ka mate," and the rest of it is a very old chant, long antedating Te Rauparaha's period."
Actually - the best steak doesn't make it to the saleyards. It gets
cut up and placed in my in-laws freezer where I would liberally help
myself to the best cuts. ;)
Jesus you are a FUCKWIT!!!!
The only one dropping his pants and flashing the oyster would be you,
girlyfucka. Go suck ya mamma's cock !!!
You are very sick little man....
Jolly
>>It is totally precious. Do it before the anthems if at all. and the
>>same goes for anyone else who wishes to express their bloody culture.
>>
>>JH
>
>
> Jeez, John - give us a break. We spend 5 minutes expressing our
> culture and you have a cow. Then your lot goes and spends the next 80
> minutes expressing their culture by losing, and do you hear a peep
> from us? No, you do not. It's just what you do and we accept that.
>
*polite applause*
--
Cheers, Os
You would also be less than Jolly if your national rugby team
immortalized a murdering prick who slaughtered and ate your ancestors
Why polite? I thought "fuck yeah!!!" would have worked better.
Jolly
>On Nov 4, 6:20�am, Klitty <mitti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "dechucka" <vo...@hotmail.com> writes:
>> > "JD" <_antipode...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>> >news:23a87e0b-536d-4a42...@b25g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
>> > On Nov 4, 8:54 am, "dechucka" <vo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> "JollyRoger" <hcstan...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:f69ec078-bfa0-45ac...@u25g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>> >> On Nov 3, 2:17 am, Mike <mikeloveschampagneandru...@googlemail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> > Massive Gonads wrote:
>> >> > > I wonder what Wales will have in response to the haka this weekend...
>> >> > > 2008 was pretty lame, they just stood there like stunned mullets,
>> >> > > delaying the game even more. In 2006 the Welsh Rugby Union had a cry
>> >> > > about the timing of the haka and it was performed in the change room.
>> >> > > Youtube below:
>>
>> >> > >http://tinyurl.com/haka2006
>> >> > >http://tinyurl.com/haka2008
>>
>> >> > > In both cases Wales were belted by 30 points, or thereabouts. Game on,
>> >> > > fuckers!
>>
>> >> > Where it JUST you I could dismiss this as excitable fanboy chatter but
>> >> > it's not.
>>
>> >> > Don't you think it's sad that the haka has become almost as talked about
>> >> > as the game?
>>
>> >> > Mike
>>
>> >> The Haka is as much part of the game as the oval ball. Deal with it.
>>
>> >> ===================================================
>>
>> >> The Haka is not part of the game of rugby nor rugby about the Haka. The
>> >> Haka
>> >> is a cultural thing. If the NZers or whoever want to do it, so be it but
>> >> don't be so bloody precious about it.
>>
>> > I only see a certain section being precious about it. Your complaints
>> > would have some veracity if you were making them of every other
>> > nation, but they don't keep beating you do they..?
>>
>> > =================================================
>>
>> > Same applies to all nations but it is the NZers who seem to get so precious
>> > about the Haka. I have a simple solution:- cultural things, the anthems and
>> > than the game. The Haka has got nothing to do with rugby as such
>>
>> Bullshit. The Haka is an institution now and EVERY time the ABs do it,
>> the pub/audience pay attention.
>>
>> Stop being such a precious little killjoy.
>
>I tend to go and make a coffee. Maybe you pay attention but don't
>presume to speak for me
>
>JH
But John, you're presuming to speak for everyone else. If you don't
like it, you're in a tiny teeny weeny minority. Don't you see that?
--
greig
is good
>
>"Two Dogs" <nzr...@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:92a4a39d-5170-462b...@h10g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
>On Nov 3, 8:41 pm, "dechucka" <vo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Andrew Dunford" <adunf...@artifax.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:7lc3qgF...@mid.individual.net...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > "Road_Hog" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >news:hcqkj9$191$1...@aioe.org...
>>
>> >>>"northshoreguynz" <northshoregu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>>news:da3964b0-e966-4b92...@q40g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >>>It isn't the kiwis who ever start these haka threads.
>>
>> >>>Cheers
>> >>>Stephen
>>
>> >> ------------------------------
>>
>> >> Remind me, what is the nationality of the OP?
>>
>> > I understand he is a citizen of the world.
>>
>> > Claims to have a kiwi connection but the reality is that his application
>> > was turned down.
>>
>> Because:- by claiming that sheep and the Haka were not the most precious
>> thing in the world and not hitting the immigration officer with a handbag
>> when he got angry he proved he was not a true NZer
>
> No, by saying that everywhere in the world except Sydney is a crap
>
>=============================================
>
>If you think Sydney is a great place to live you truly are a NZer
>
>snip
Are you short on wooshes, Chucky?
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greig
My springer is a pedigree and I have the certificate to prove it.
Mike
How so? When wales wanted to answer the AB by singing a traditional
welsh hymm the AB flounced off to the dressing room.
MAYBE as a compromise the welsh sing at the same time? Bread of Heaven
isn't what I would call a dance track but I'm sure the AB choreographers
could make it work: ".... shake it Richie, shake it ... that's it Danny,
you work it girl .... and step and step, turn and jazz hands .... smile
Nonu you miserable breeder!"
Mike
Is prefer really the right word john?
Mike
I know I have a link to THE google thread here somewhere .... and "coops
is a welcher" isn't far behind.
Mike
Right, I'm off to mangle someone's wikipedia page.....
You get a break. It's called the Haka.
JH
And ?
JH
Related to the precious Haka indeed it is
JH
It is totally precious. Do it before the anthems if at all. and the
same goes for anyone else who wishes to express their bloody culture.
JH
And what's your culture rimmer, yoghurt ??
>On Nov 5, 4:51�am, Greig Blanchett <gre...@nNzOrSfPu.AcMom> wrote:
See, this is the problem with democracy. It's not really about
majority rule, it's more about bloody minorities getting their squeaky
voices heard. You're right up there with greenies, whale huggers and
tree squatters, John. Effin'minorities whining like jet engines,
expecting sensible folk to give a shit. What you lot need, besides a
haircut and a real job, is a stint in the army. That'd teach you some
respect, young man.
--
greig
Planet fuckwit.
Actually in Gonad's defence : he has a point. It was a bit precious of
the Kiwis to take their ball home and dance in the dressing room but,
IMO, even more so of the Taffs to upset the accepted order of things. A
lot of Welsh fans were pissed off at missing the Haka : it is a
spectacle.
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There is no ball.
>
> Cheers
> Stephen
Don't forget, soccer doesn't exist in his hemisphere. Yes, he actually
said that.
>
> Two Dogs
Darwin or Cairns for me. Or Broom if they have the internet....
Maybe it's played in the small area in Aus where they keep all the
culture?
>
>>
>> Two Dogs
Bollocks?