OT: Number of athletes at Olympic games per gold medal won
Ernest_t...@hotmail.com
every three athletes on their team. Georgia was top of rugby playing
nations with one gold for every 11.7 competitors. Great Britain was a
credible 10th with one gold for every 16.4 competitors. Australia
could only place 21st, but were still well clear of New Zealand in 44
th – which just proves what we already knew: one Pom is worth five New
Zealanders and one Aussie is worth two New Zealanders, any day.
The top 10:
1. Panama (1) - 3
2. Ethiopia (4) - 5.5
3. Jamaica (6) - 9.3
4. Kenya (5) - 11.2
5. Georgia (3) - 11.7
6. China (51) - 12.5
7. Zimbabwe (1) - 13
8. Mongolia (2) - 14.5
9. Bahrain (1) - 15
10. Great Britain (19) - 16.4
Selected others from 87 nations with medals:
11. United States (36) - 16.6
21. Australia (14) - 30.9
44. New Zealand (3) - 60.7
Charles
While not caring enough to want to confirm the veracity of the above
calculations, if a true and fair table of merit and achievement is
required then this method would seem to fit the bill.
The size of team or population etc. count for nothing, and other
tables, which include multifarious devious variables including the
track coaches' inside leg measurement et al - are meaningless. What we
have here is success based on medals achieved as a percentage of the
participating national teams' numerical strength.
Have a great weekend chaps - you know I intend to!! ;o)
TFIF!
Uncle Dave
Can't agree with that as some countries, particularly the poorer ones,
will only send athletes they believe have a real chance while others
will (for example) send youngsters to "get experience". There are
only two valid measures of a country's position in the Olympics - the
total number of medals they got or the individual total for each
colour measured against the other countries competing. There is no
sound basis for any other method, all of which introduce variables
which have no bearing on the actual competition, i.e. what matters is
crossing the line first, etc., not how much it cost you to get there
or how many people are watching back home. These are interesting but
all are weighted according to each individual's perception of the
variables introduced and so have no value as a calculation of merit.
Cheers
UD
misanthropic_curmudgeon
It is worth noting that these numbers are distorted by the inclusion
of multiple teams-based events which are clearly not sport, such as
soccer and hockey.
alvey
>
> It is worth noting that these numbers are distorted by the inclusion
> of multiple teams-based events which are clearly not sport, such as
> soccer and hockey.
Agree with the first part, but why are "teams based events...such as soccer
and hockey" not, according to you, sport?
alvey
simon s-b
>
> - Show quoted text -
Did we (GB) send a soccer team? I assume not as it would have to be
made up of the home nations, a bit like a Lions side.
simon s-b
There is sport in Hockey - you have to spot the one that isn't a
lesbian.
alvey
Sexist swine.
Actually, it's a good idea to avoid *all* women hockey players. Imagine
what damage they could inadvertently do to your tackle with those big
strong hands.
alvey
alvey
No you didn't send one. I assume that they didn't qualify...
alvey
finding that Europe was represented by Italy, Serbia, Belguim & the
Netherregions in the mens comp.
didgerman
No we didn't, because the respective football unions wee'd in their
pants over the whole thing. Especially up here it seems: much rolling of
eyes and Sottish like wailing 'the end, the end of the tartan army
/insert wind a distant bell effects here....' Some fool tried to use the
Lions as an example on a Glasgow radio phone in, 'yeah but Scotland
doesn't play rugby league' came the well researched reply.
Whatever you think about football, not sending a team to the olympics is
a bloody disgrace.
The Old Fellow
Any straight guys in Poofball?
The Old Fellow
Probably couldn't find enough English born players, hell even NZ had a
team - didn't do very well but at least qualified.
alvey
Why do you want to know? Are you going to convert them?
alvey
didgerman
Bit tricky to qualify when you don't even enter.
Hopefully somebody will come along and tell the football *associations*
{not unions....} to fuck off and just get on with it themselves.
Uncle Dave
>
> Bit tricky to qualify when you don't even enter.
> Hopefully somebody will come along and tell the football *associations*
> {not unions....} to fuck off and just get on with it themselves.
Apparently, the Prime Minister said it would be so and so it will be.
Needless to say, it's the Jocks and Welsh kicking up a fuss...
UD
misanthropic_curmudgeon
Sport requires:
- physical skill and dexterity
- phyical stregnth and/or endurance
- an objective means of evaluating who wins.
Soccer and Hockey obviously fail, as they lack the second, as does
golf and the like.
And to argue that milling about a manicured pitch in a silk shirt with
the odd fleeting sprint is phyical stregnth and/or endurance speaks
more to the advocators physical shorcominsg than anything else.
alvey
> On Sep 3, 11:01 am, alvey <al...@play.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:25:47 -0700 (PDT), misanthropic_curmudgeon wrote:
>>
>>> It is worth noting that these numbers are distorted by the inclusion
>>> of multiple teams-based events which are clearly not sport, such as
>>> soccer and hockey.
>>
>> Agree with the first part, but why are "teams based events...such as soccer
>> and hockey" not, according to you, sport?
>
> Sport requires:
> - physical skill and dexterity
Images of Matt Dunning genre forwards lumber into conciousness here.
> - phyical stregnth and/or endurance
RU. "A stoppage every 15 seconds or your money back!"
> - an objective means of evaluating who wins.
Obviously that'd be penalty kicks given at the whim of a power-crazed
whistleblower.
>
> Soccer and Hockey obviously fail, as they lack the second, as does
> golf and the like.
Oh sorry. Didn't realise that you were trolling. Carry on.
snip unread.
alvey
Uncle Dave
<misanthropiccurmudg...@breastcancermail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 3, 11:01 am, alvey <al...@play.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:25:47 -0700 (PDT), misanthropic_curmudgeon wrote:
>
> > > It is worth noting that these numbers are distorted by the inclusion
> > > of multiple teams-based events which are clearly not sport, such as
> > > soccer and hockey.
>
> > Agree with the first part, but why are "teams based events...such as soccer
> > and hockey" not, according to you, sport?
>
> Sport requires:
> - physical skill and dexterity
> - phyical stregnth and/or endurance
> - an objective means of evaluating who wins.
>
> Soccer and Hockey obviously fail, as they lack the second, as does
> golf and the like.
If you sat down more you wouldn't be able to talk out of your arse so
easily.
UD
Charles
I like that one, and will put it to good use outside the confines of
RSRU.
I'm looking forward to HQ tomorrow for the 'The Help for Heroes'
charity match. It promises to be a terrific day out, a great reunion
of long-standing good friends, with the weather forecast adding to the
West Car Park entertainment prospects.
Teams:
Help for Heroes XV
15. Mal Roberts (Army)
14. Mark Odejobi (London Wasps)
13. Will Greenwood (England)
12. Jason Robinson (England)
11. Dan Luger (England)
10. Alex Goode (Saracens)
9. Joe Simpson (London Wasps)
1. Nathan Catt (Bath Rugby)
2. Mark Regan (Bristol Rugby, England)
3. Tom Mercey (Saracens)
4. Rob Sugden (Army)
5. Scott Hobson (Bath Rugby)
6. Matthew Cornish (Royal Air Force)
7. Richard Hill (England)
8. Lawrence Dallaglio (England, captain)
Replacements
16. Martin Johnson (England)
17. Tom O’Keeffe (Royal Marines)
18. Richard Matthews (Royal Air Force)
19. Paul Volley (London Scottish)
20. Martin Offiah (Great Britain RL)
21. Dave Pascoe (Royal Navy)
22. Dominic Shabbo (London Irish)
23. Gareth Leonard (Royal Air Force)
24. Henry Barratt (London Wasps)
International XV
15. Justin Bishop (Doncaster Knights, Ireland)
14. Kristian Phillips (Ospreys)
13. Angelo Flammia (Royal Air Force)
12. Scott Gibbs (Wales, captain)
11. Kenny Logan (Scotland)
10. Rhys Priestland (Scarlets)
9. Guy Easterby (Otley, Ireland)
1. David Hilton (Scotland)
2. Gordon Bulloch (West of Scotland, Scotland)
3. Darren Morris (Worcester Warriors, Wales)
4. Gareth Llewellyn (Wales)
5. Howard Parr (Royal Air Force)
6. Dafydd Jones (Scarlets, Wales)
7. Colin Charvis (Newport-Gwent Dragons, Wales)
8. Joe Kava (Army)
Replacements
16. Shane Byrne (Ireland)
17. Shaun Ruwers (Worcester Warriors)
18. Marsh Cormack (Royal Navy)
19. Mark Lee (Army)
20. Zak Feaunati (Samoa)
21. Micky Young (Newcastle Falcons)
22. Matt Rhodes (Royal Marines)
23. Dafydd Hewitt (Cardiff Blues)
24. Jonah Lomu (New Zealand)
Have a great weekend - I intend to! ;o)
TFIF!