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David F

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Nov 24, 2009, 8:29:27 AM11/24/09
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'bout time to give the young lad a chance in a proper test.

No other surprises, really. Earls in for the injured Fitzgerald.

I'm looking forward to it - flying home on Friday afternoon with a
match ticket in my hand :-)


http://www.irishrugby.ie/13910_19020.php

IRELAND TEAM & REPLACEMENTS (v South Africa, GUINNESS Series 2009,
Croke Park, Saturday, November 28, kick-off 2:30 pm):

15 - Rob Kearney (UCD/Leinster)
14 - Tommy Bowe (Ospreys)
13 - Brian O'Driscoll (UCD/Leinster) (capt)
12 - Paddy Wallace (Ballymena/Ulster)
11 - Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster)
10 - Jonathan Sexton (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
9 - Tomas O'Leary (Dolphin/Munster)

1 - Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster)
2 - Jerry Flannery (Shannon/Munster)
3 - John Hayes (Bruff/Munster)
4 - Donncha O'Callaghan (Cork Constitution/Munster)
5 - Paul O'Connell (Young Munster/Munster)
6 - Stephen Ferris (Dungannon/Ulster)
7 - David Wallace (Garryowen/Munster)
8 - Jamie Heaslip (Naas/Leinster)

Replacements:

16 - Sean Cronin (Buccaneers/Connacht)
17 -Tony Buckley (Shannon/Munster)
18 - Leo Cullen (Blackrock College/Leinster)
19 - Denis Leamy (Cork Constitution/Munster)
20 - Peter Stringer (Shannon/Munster)
21 - Ronan O'Gara (Cork Constitution/Munster)
22 - Gordon D'Arcy (Lansdowne/Leinster)

Large Paddy

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Nov 24, 2009, 11:43:39 AM11/24/09
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Great news about Sexton. This chap is of Dan Carter quality. Great
runner, magnificent kicker, great head. Good about Earls too. Fine
player.

Greig Blanchett

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Nov 24, 2009, 2:06:17 PM11/24/09
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Is he Carter quality like Carter was Mehrtens quality, or is he Carter
quality like Cipriani was Carter quality?

--
greig

David F

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Nov 24, 2009, 4:48:55 PM11/24/09
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Time will tell, but he seems to have a very solid all-round game - no
glaring weaknesses such as ROG and his tackling. He showed in the
Heineken Cup semi-final and final that he's got the nerve for big
games, so he potentially has a very bright future ahead of him.

In any case, it's good news for Ireland to introduce a little
competition for number 10 - having no alternative can't exactly have
given O'Gara much motivation to improve on himself, can it?

Mark (newsgroups)

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Nov 24, 2009, 4:55:52 PM11/24/09
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On Nov 24, 1:29 pm, David F <da...@fitzg.com> wrote:
> 'bout time to give the young lad a chance in a proper test.

Nice to see them giving their youngsters a chance, sure it's an easy
game, but still.

Klitty

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Nov 24, 2009, 5:06:01 PM11/24/09
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"Mark (newsgroups)" <marknew...@yahoo.com> writes:

Which team are the Springbok putting out the? The top team who beat
Italy or the one that lost to France, Leicester and Saracens?

Large Paddy

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Nov 25, 2009, 3:20:00 AM11/25/09
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On Nov 24, 7:06 pm, Greig Blanchett <gre...@nNzOrSfPu.AcMom> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:43:39 -0800 (PST), Large Paddy
>
> <gol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Great news about Sexton. This chap is of Dan Carter quality. Great
> >runner, magnificent kicker, great head. Good about Earls too. Fine
> >player.
>
> Is he Carter quality like Carter was Mehrtens

The only people who rated Mehrtens as the best are New Zealanders.
Carter's superior. The greatest out-half of all time is undoubtedly
Phil Bennett. Nobody could jink like him, and he was terribly fast in
a burst

Lodi

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Nov 25, 2009, 3:49:51 AM11/25/09
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> Large Paddy wrote:

> The greatest out-half of all time is undoubtedly
> Phil Bennett.

That must be an example of the Irish sense of humour we hear so much about.

Without even trying I can think of at least a dozen first-fives I'd prefer
in my team. They'd all outclass Phil Bennet, good player and all that he
was.

Ella, Porta, Pokere, Humphs, Fox......without even mentioning
the "superstars" of today. Even Carlos Spencer would outshine Bennet.

Rose tinted glasses are all well and good but our heroes of yesteryear are
just not in the same league as players of today (and you did say of all
time) so I may as well throw in most of the Super rugby first fives and a
couple of the Heineken Cup ones too......

Regards
Lodi

didgerman

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Nov 25, 2009, 5:31:56 AM11/25/09
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Large Paddy wrote:
> On Nov 24, 7:06 pm, Greig Blanchett <gre...@nNzOrSfPu.AcMom> wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:43:39 -0800 (PST), Large Paddy
>>
>> <gol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Great news about Sexton. This chap is of Dan Carter quality. Great
>>> runner, magnificent kicker, great head. Good about Earls too. Fine
>>> player.
>> Is he Carter quality like Carter was Mehrtens
>
> The only people who rated Mehrtens as the best are New Zealanders.
> Carter's superior. The greatest out-half of all time is undoubtedly
> Phil Bennett.

Greatest of his time no doubts. I saw him play maybe 20 times, really
was something else. How anyone can look at Bennett and then say Barry
John was the greatest I don't know, but they do.

Nobody could jink like him, and he was terribly fast in
> a burst

Who knows how he'd go today, even if he had the more modern bulk and
could stand up to BRF's clattering him all game.
Carter's good, but would you have him in your win or die game? Right now
I'd take Hernandez.
One of the eternal debates I suppose.

Andrew Dunford

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Nov 25, 2009, 5:57:14 AM11/25/09
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"Klitty" <mitt...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:hehlca$uin$1...@news.eternal-september.org...

Tell you once the result is known.

Andrew

Mark (newsgroups)

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Nov 25, 2009, 6:23:50 AM11/25/09
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On Nov 24, 10:06 pm, Klitty <mitti...@gmail.com> wrote:

Go away troll.

Brent Hadley

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Nov 25, 2009, 6:28:38 AM11/25/09
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Certainly, Carter would be wasted on England, when all you want is a
10 who can kick it as far as possible and is a better DG exponent than
JW.

Any side that has ambitions of running the ball would take Carter of
course, but I can understand why a side as limited as England wouldn't
feel comfortable with a 10 who might have more ambition.

Cheers

Brent

didgerman

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Nov 25, 2009, 7:15:35 AM11/25/09
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Who beat NZ at the last RWC? And who beat France in the opening game?
I'd take Hernandez, ymmv.

didgerman

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Nov 25, 2009, 7:16:16 AM11/25/09
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Yeah but, answer the question first.

Mark (newsgroups)

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Nov 25, 2009, 7:49:01 AM11/25/09
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Ok. The team that beat Italy was slightly changed from the team that
lost to France, and is our top team. The team that lost to Saracens
and Leicester is the Springbok midweek team, with +-3 players from
that team making the test squad of 22.

I suspect we'll put out our strongest available (*) side for Ireland.

All of that is obvious, hence you are both trolls.

(*) Explanation of "available" provided on request for stupid people.

Klitty

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Nov 25, 2009, 8:51:01 AM11/25/09
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"Mark (newsgroups)" <marknew...@yahoo.com> writes:

So you don't know?

Maxx

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Nov 25, 2009, 12:31:31 PM11/25/09
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Mincemeat. On toast.

Maxx

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Nov 25, 2009, 12:35:26 PM11/25/09
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On Nov 25, 12:06 am, Klitty <mitti...@gmail.com> wrote:

lol, poor ol Klitty still confused. It's quite simple really mate.

Maxx

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Nov 25, 2009, 12:38:11 PM11/25/09
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On Nov 25, 2:49 pm, "Mark (newsgroups)" <marknewsgro...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Actually I reckon they're both just a tad thick Mark.


Maxx

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Nov 25, 2009, 12:38:32 PM11/25/09
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On Nov 25, 3:51 pm, Klitty <mitti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Mark (newsgroups)" <marknewsgro...@yahoo.com> writes:
> > On Nov 24, 10:06 pm, Klitty <mitti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> "Mark (newsgroups)" <marknewsgro...@yahoo.com> writes:
> >> > On Nov 24, 1:29 pm, David F <da...@fitzg.com> wrote:
> >> >> 'bout time to give the young lad a chance in a proper test.
>
> >> > Nice to see them giving their youngsters a chance, sure it's an easy
> >> > game, but still.
>
> >> Which team are the Springbok putting out the? The top team who beat
> >> Italy or the one that lost to France, Leicester and Saracens?
>
> > Go away troll.
>
> So you don't know?

lol

didgerman

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Nov 25, 2009, 12:38:40 PM11/25/09
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Isn't it always? Except you can never really explain it can you.
Let me guess, lol?

didgerman

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Nov 25, 2009, 12:39:53 PM11/25/09
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Not at all, I think you have a slim chance against that lot.

Maxx

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Nov 25, 2009, 1:13:48 PM11/25/09
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Tests. non-Tests. Geddit?

Maxx

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Nov 25, 2009, 1:18:03 PM11/25/09
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> Not at all, I think you have a slim chance against that lot.-

And before you knew it, it was Boks 2 Lions 0, Boks 6, England 0.

Klitty

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Nov 25, 2009, 1:23:48 PM11/25/09
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Maxx <sc...@executivemail.co.za> writes:

<scratches head in feigned confusion>

No. You must be real smart ...

A genius if you will ...

Are you related to Chucky?

Maxx

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Nov 25, 2009, 1:39:51 PM11/25/09
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Was I talking to you?

Klitty

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Nov 25, 2009, 1:46:26 PM11/25/09
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Maxx <sc...@executivemail.co.za> writes:

You are Chucky's SAn cousin. Yes you were talking to me. Didge just
butted in. The KEY to understanding this is above, and I repeat it now:-

,----


| >> >> >> Which team are the Springbok putting out the? The top team who beat
| >> >> >> Italy or the one that lost to France, Leicester and Saracens?
| >>
| >> >> > lol, poor ol Klitty still confused. It's quite simple really mate.

`----

It was ME that asked the question.

Do TRY to keep up Maxxi. Thinking is SO important ....

Maxx

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Nov 25, 2009, 1:56:58 PM11/25/09
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> Do TRY to keep up Maxxi. Thinking is SO important ....-

Ok now you're just wasting my and your time.

Ciao china.

Greig Blanchett

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Nov 25, 2009, 2:02:08 PM11/25/09
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Sarries 1 Boks 0
Leicester 1 Boks 0
France 1 Boks 0

--
greig

Maxx

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Nov 26, 2009, 10:34:54 AM11/26/09
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lol

didgerman

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Nov 26, 2009, 12:33:46 PM11/26/09
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-_-

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