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Hey, Speaking of Dumpster Fires, Kansas Failed Reagonomics Experiment Is Totally Getting Worse
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Jason Todd!!!
Sep 26, 2015, 1:36:07 PM9/26/15
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The Koch Brothers' Dream State Just Keeps Failing
http://reverbpress.com/politics/failed-reaganomics-experiment-kansas-keeps-getting-worse/
If you ever need a perfect example of just how backwards and damaging right wing policies are, look no further than Kansas. Kansas Governor Sam Brownback was the Kochs' dream come true -- he truly believed in the Conservative-Libertarian principles of small government, low taxes and privatization of social programs and was willing to try their small scale experiment in his state to once and for all prove Reaganomics, or trickle-down economics works. Similarly, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal and Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker are both trying similar policies in their states which are also showing the same dismal results.
In 2010, riding the Tea Party/Obama-hate wave, Koch-supported Gov. Brownback was elected for his platform promising Kansans to cut income taxes which would create a well-spring of jobs and economic growth.
This came at a time when the U.S. saw enormous job loss during the economic crisis in 2009, and people were thirsty for creative solutions. Brownback was making promises very few other governors were making and he was elected by a large majority.
In 2011, he made good on his campaign promise and all but eliminated income taxes for the wealthiest Kansans and business owners. In 2012, he cut income taxes again, leaving the poorest Kansans paying an 11.6 percent in taxes, while the wealthier Kansans pay a rate of 3.6 percent. Similar to GOP presidential candidate Mike Huckabee's "Fair Tax" plan, Brownback increased the sales tax in the state to make up for the lost state revenue from cutting income taxes for wealthy Kansans and business owners, which also punishes the poor because they spend more of their income buying goods.
By the end of his first term, Brownback's plans were beginning to look disastrous but he ran his campaign on "stay the course, these things take time to work" and gullible Republicans re-elected Brownback, but by a much smaller majority. What came next was a steady dismantling of social programs and a ballooning deficit that called for major cuts in the state.
Within a few days of the second election, the state announced a $600 million budget deficit, which is expected to grow to the billions if Brownback doesn't take serious action. Funding was cut from education, more people were kicked off welfare, cuts to infrastructure spending, as well as a refusal to expand the state's medicaid program. The education cuts were so bad, schools in six districts had to close their doors early.
s for the well-spring of jobs, the "adrenaline shot to the heart of the growing economy" the tax cuts were supposed to provide that Brownback promised?
The Kansas City Star reports that in August Kansas saw a loss of 3,000 total jobs and that's on top of 5,100 jobs lost in July. In the past year there have only been 1,000 jobs gained. Kansas has the fourth worst record for job growth in the U.S. seeing only a .1 percent growth in employment -- that's embarrassing considering neighboring states that did not slash taxes are seeing job growth in the tens of thousands. For example, Missouri saw 31 times the job growth Kansas had in the last 12 months.
The Kansas City Star writes:
The Legislature this year had to pass the largest tax increase in state history just to balance the books.
Meanwhile, the state is borrowing $1 billion to shore up pensions and diverting road funds to other uses.
The stunning new employment numbers provide new evidence that the jobs are not flocking to Kansas.
Now, as far as Libertarian ideals go, Brownback's plan has been a relative success despite having to raise taxes again. Conservatives constantly bray about "large government" and Brownback bankrupting his state caused a major reduction in spending on programs conservatives deem wasteful such as spending on students, or the poor, or the elderly, or the disabled.
This just so perfectly sums up for liberals, who believe in spending on the poor and for education, that top-down economics does not and will not ever work in this country. And remember, the Kochs are doing their best (and failing) to get their favorite horses elected in the 2016 presidential race so that they can implement their libertarian ideology on a much grander scale, so be wary, there's more failure to come.
Image: MSNBC/YouTube (Screen Capture)
http://reverbpress.com/politics/failed-reaganomics-experiment-kansas-keeps-getting-worse/
If you ever need a perfect example of just how backwards and damaging right wing policies are, look no further than Kansas. Kansas Governor Sam Brownback was the Kochs' dream come true -- he truly believed in the Conservative-Libertarian principles of small government, low taxes and privatization of social programs and was willing to try their small scale experiment in his state to once and for all prove Reaganomics, or trickle-down economics works. Similarly, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal and Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker are both trying similar policies in their states which are also showing the same dismal results.
In 2010, riding the Tea Party/Obama-hate wave, Koch-supported Gov. Brownback was elected for his platform promising Kansans to cut income taxes which would create a well-spring of jobs and economic growth.
This came at a time when the U.S. saw enormous job loss during the economic crisis in 2009, and people were thirsty for creative solutions. Brownback was making promises very few other governors were making and he was elected by a large majority.
In 2011, he made good on his campaign promise and all but eliminated income taxes for the wealthiest Kansans and business owners. In 2012, he cut income taxes again, leaving the poorest Kansans paying an 11.6 percent in taxes, while the wealthier Kansans pay a rate of 3.6 percent. Similar to GOP presidential candidate Mike Huckabee's "Fair Tax" plan, Brownback increased the sales tax in the state to make up for the lost state revenue from cutting income taxes for wealthy Kansans and business owners, which also punishes the poor because they spend more of their income buying goods.
By the end of his first term, Brownback's plans were beginning to look disastrous but he ran his campaign on "stay the course, these things take time to work" and gullible Republicans re-elected Brownback, but by a much smaller majority. What came next was a steady dismantling of social programs and a ballooning deficit that called for major cuts in the state.
Within a few days of the second election, the state announced a $600 million budget deficit, which is expected to grow to the billions if Brownback doesn't take serious action. Funding was cut from education, more people were kicked off welfare, cuts to infrastructure spending, as well as a refusal to expand the state's medicaid program. The education cuts were so bad, schools in six districts had to close their doors early.
s for the well-spring of jobs, the "adrenaline shot to the heart of the growing economy" the tax cuts were supposed to provide that Brownback promised?
The Kansas City Star reports that in August Kansas saw a loss of 3,000 total jobs and that's on top of 5,100 jobs lost in July. In the past year there have only been 1,000 jobs gained. Kansas has the fourth worst record for job growth in the U.S. seeing only a .1 percent growth in employment -- that's embarrassing considering neighboring states that did not slash taxes are seeing job growth in the tens of thousands. For example, Missouri saw 31 times the job growth Kansas had in the last 12 months.
The Kansas City Star writes:
The Legislature this year had to pass the largest tax increase in state history just to balance the books.
Meanwhile, the state is borrowing $1 billion to shore up pensions and diverting road funds to other uses.
The stunning new employment numbers provide new evidence that the jobs are not flocking to Kansas.
Now, as far as Libertarian ideals go, Brownback's plan has been a relative success despite having to raise taxes again. Conservatives constantly bray about "large government" and Brownback bankrupting his state caused a major reduction in spending on programs conservatives deem wasteful such as spending on students, or the poor, or the elderly, or the disabled.
This just so perfectly sums up for liberals, who believe in spending on the poor and for education, that top-down economics does not and will not ever work in this country. And remember, the Kochs are doing their best (and failing) to get their favorite horses elected in the 2016 presidential race so that they can implement their libertarian ideology on a much grander scale, so be wary, there's more failure to come.
Image: MSNBC/YouTube (Screen Capture)
Jason Todd!!!
Sep 26, 2015, 1:36:46 PM9/26/15
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Trijcomm
Sep 26, 2015, 2:06:21 PM9/26/15
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The Obama Dream experiment of making the US a lab experiment for liberal theory? Someone dropped the test tube.
me
Sep 26, 2015, 3:17:37 PM9/26/15
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On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 2:06:21 PM UTC-4, Trijcomm wrote:
> The Obama Dream experiment of making the US a lab experiment for liberal theory? Someone dropped the test tube.
Captain Oblivious ladies and gentlemen!
> The Obama Dream experiment of making the US a lab experiment for liberal theory? Someone dropped the test tube.
Jason Todd!!!
Sep 26, 2015, 4:35:43 PM9/26/15
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On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 2:06:21 PM UTC-4, Trijcomm wrote:
> The Obama Dream experiment of making the US a lab experiment for liberal theory? Someone dropped the test tube.
translation:
"LALALALALALALALALALALALALCANTHEARYOU!!"
also see: Kevin Bacon at the end of National Lampoon's Animal House.
"Remain Calm!! All is Well!"
Trijcomm
Sep 26, 2015, 6:58:48 PM9/26/15
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On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 3:35:43 PM UTC-5, Jason Todd!!! wrote:
> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 2:06:21 PM UTC-4, Trijcomm wrote:
> > The Obama Dream experiment of making the US a lab experiment for liberal theory? Someone dropped the test tube.
>
> translation:
>
> "LALALALALALALALALALALALALCANTHEARYOU!!"
>
That's exactly what I see from you every time I point out the complete disaster of the Obama Administration.
> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 2:06:21 PM UTC-4, Trijcomm wrote:
> > The Obama Dream experiment of making the US a lab experiment for liberal theory? Someone dropped the test tube.
>
> translation:
>
> "LALALALALALALALALALALALALCANTHEARYOU!!"
>
Jason Todd!!!
Sep 26, 2015, 7:18:07 PM9/26/15
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That's what happens when you point out "the complete disaster of the Obama Administration."
Jason
*Note: yes, the rollout and healthcare.gov were utter failures, admittedly. Ship, righted, standards, set. But otherwise, while the Obama Administration hasn't been able to provide us with hovercars or transform lead into gold, he doesn't even come close to Bushian levels of ineptitude.
Trijcomm
Sep 26, 2015, 8:58:59 PM9/26/15
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On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 6:18:07 PM UTC-5, Jason Todd!!! wrote:
> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 6:58:48 PM UTC-4, Trijcomm wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 3:35:43 PM UTC-5, Jason Todd!!! wrote:
> > > On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 2:06:21 PM UTC-4, Trijcomm wrote:
> > > > The Obama Dream experiment of making the US a lab experiment for liberal theory? Someone dropped the test tube.
> > >
> > > translation:
> > >
> > > "LALALALALALALALALALALALALCANTHEARYOU!!"
> > >
> > That's exactly what I see from you every time I point out the complete disaster of the Obama Administration.
>
> No you don't. Every time I ask you what disasters the Obama information has fomented, you just say "Obamacare" which is wrong*.
Baloney. Not only Obamacare, but EVERYTHING from illegal immigration to foreign policy to Obamacare -- EVERYTHING! It's not just Obamacare. It's everything he does, which makes it a total disaster. Got it yet?
> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 6:58:48 PM UTC-4, Trijcomm wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 3:35:43 PM UTC-5, Jason Todd!!! wrote:
> > > On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 2:06:21 PM UTC-4, Trijcomm wrote:
> > > > The Obama Dream experiment of making the US a lab experiment for liberal theory? Someone dropped the test tube.
> > >
> > > translation:
> > >
> > > "LALALALALALALALALALALALALCANTHEARYOU!!"
> > >
> > That's exactly what I see from you every time I point out the complete disaster of the Obama Administration.
>
> No you don't. Every time I ask you what disasters the Obama information has fomented, you just say "Obamacare" which is wrong*.
Freezer
Sep 26, 2015, 9:42:40 PM9/26/15
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If I don't reply to this Trijcomm post, the terroists win.
> Baloney. Not only Obamacare,
Which is, and always has been, popular. Despite what Conservatives
and their propaganda dept., Fox News, try and tell us.
> but EVERYTHING from illegal immigration
Formal deportation rates are higher under Obama than they were
under Bush.
> to foreign policy
In so far as Obama has a policy ouside of simply telling the world
"'MURICA!"
> to Obamacare
Redunancy? What's that?
--
My name is Freezer and my anti-drug is porn.
http://mst3kfreezer.livejournal.com/
@allhailfreezer
> Baloney. Not only Obamacare,
Which is, and always has been, popular. Despite what Conservatives
and their propaganda dept., Fox News, try and tell us.
> but EVERYTHING from illegal immigration
under Bush.
> to foreign policy
In so far as Obama has a policy ouside of simply telling the world
"'MURICA!"
> to Obamacare
Redunancy? What's that?
--
My name is Freezer and my anti-drug is porn.
http://mst3kfreezer.livejournal.com/
@allhailfreezer
Trijcomm
Sep 26, 2015, 11:39:18 PM9/26/15
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On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 8:42:40 PM UTC-5, Freezer wrote:
> If I don't reply to this Trijcomm post, the terroists win.
>
> > Baloney. Not only Obamacare,
>
> Which is, and always has been, popular.
What are you talking about? Obamacare has been below water in opinion polls ever since it was created and in most cases by double digits! With this ridiculous statement, you strain the bounds of credulity.
> If I don't reply to this Trijcomm post, the terroists win.
>
> > Baloney. Not only Obamacare,
>
> Which is, and always has been, popular.
Freezer
Sep 27, 2015, 12:52:34 AM9/27/15
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If I don't reply to this Trijcomm post, the terroists win.
> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 8:42:40 PM UTC-5, Freezer
> wrote:
>> If I don't reply to this Trijcomm post, the terroists win.
>>
>> > Baloney. Not only Obamacare,
>>
>> Which is, and always has been, popular.
>
> What are you talking about? Obamacare has been below water in
> opinion polls ever since it was created and in most cases by
> double digits!
As is usually the case when you're actually correct, it's not for
> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 8:42:40 PM UTC-5, Freezer
> wrote:
>> If I don't reply to this Trijcomm post, the terroists win.
>>
>> > Baloney. Not only Obamacare,
>>
>> Which is, and always has been, popular.
>
> What are you talking about? Obamacare has been below water in
> opinion polls ever since it was created and in most cases by
> double digits!
the reasons you think:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/21/obamacare-approval-
polls_n_7632070.html
Trijcomm
Sep 27, 2015, 12:19:07 PM9/27/15
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On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 11:52:34 PM UTC-5, Freezer wrote:
> If I don't reply to this Trijcomm post, the terroists win.
>
> > On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 8:42:40 PM UTC-5, Freezer
> > wrote:
> >> If I don't reply to this Trijcomm post, the terroists win.
> >>
> >> > Baloney. Not only Obamacare,
> >>
> >> Which is, and always has been, popular.
> >
> > What are you talking about? Obamacare has been below water in
> > opinion polls ever since it was created and in most cases by
> > double digits!
>
> As is usually the case when you're actually correct, it's not for
> the reasons you think:
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/21/obamacare-approval-
> polls_n_7632070.html
>
You are bringing up that lie about "folks wanting a more liberal (universal) health care." Problem is, the term "single payer" was not used while the term "liberal" was. The definition of that term in this kind of survey is undefined.
> If I don't reply to this Trijcomm post, the terroists win.
>
> > On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 8:42:40 PM UTC-5, Freezer
> > wrote:
> >> If I don't reply to this Trijcomm post, the terroists win.
> >>
> >> > Baloney. Not only Obamacare,
> >>
> >> Which is, and always has been, popular.
> >
> > What are you talking about? Obamacare has been below water in
> > opinion polls ever since it was created and in most cases by
> > double digits!
>
> As is usually the case when you're actually correct, it's not for
> the reasons you think:
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/21/obamacare-approval-
> polls_n_7632070.html
>
Jason Todd!!!
Mar 2, 2016, 12:58:25 AM3/2/16
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Six months later, things are even worser:
Gov. Sam Brownback cuts higher education as Kansas tax receipts fall $53 million short
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article63347152.html#storylink=cpy
Gov. Sam Brownback cuts higher education as Kansas tax receipts fall $53 million short
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article63347152.html#storylink=cpy
Jason Todd!!!
Jun 7, 2017, 10:35:28 AM6/7/17
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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/6/7/15753510/kansas-brownback-tax-reform
epublican lawmakers in Kansas put an end to the state’s failed tax-reform experiment on Tuesday, overriding the governor’s veto after three attempts to pass a tax-hiking bill this year.
The new law raises income and business taxes closer to pre-reform levels — a move Republicans had been resisting for years. But pressure had been mounting to do something. The drastic tax cuts enacted five years ago left the state in a fiscal mess, unable to balance its budget and properly fund its public schools.
Gov. Sam Brownback’s signature tax reform closely mirrors the tax plan that President Donald Trump is trying to get through Congress. In fact, they were designed by the same supply-side economists.
While the new Kansas law doesn’t roll back all the elements of the tax plan, it eliminates most of them, including the most controversial one: the zero tax rate for owner-operated businesses. The change was intended to spur business investment and expansion, but instead, it created massive tax avoidance, according to researchers.
The fate of Kansas’s tax experiment provides many clues about what could happen if Congress goes along with Trump’s vision for tax reform.
jason
Trijcomm
Jun 7, 2017, 11:30:40 AM6/7/17
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Jason Todd!!!
Jun 7, 2017, 1:03:01 PM6/7/17
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On Wednesday, June 7, 2017 at 11:30:40 AM UTC-4, Trijcomm wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 7, 2017 at 9:35:28 AM UTC-5, Jason Todd!!! wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 12:58:25 AM UTC-5, Jason Todd!!! wrote:
> > > Six months later, things are even worser:
> > >
> > > Gov. Sam Brownback cuts higher education as Kansas tax receipts fall $53 million short
> > >
> > > Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article63347152.html#storylink=cpy
> >
> > aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand after another 13 months of this bullshit, the Kansas legislature unloads a big pile of Fuck You Motherfucker on Brownback!
> >
> >
> > https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/6/7/15753510/kansas-brownback-tax-reform
> >
> >
> > epublican lawmakers in Kansas put an end to the state’s failed tax-reform experiment on Tuesday, overriding the governor’s veto after three attempts to pass a tax-hiking bill this year.
> >
> > The new law raises income and business taxes closer to pre-reform levels — a move Republicans had been resisting for years. But pressure had been mounting to do something. The drastic tax cuts enacted five years ago left the state in a fiscal mess, unable to balance its budget and properly fund its public schools.
> >
> > Gov. Sam Brownback’s signature tax reform closely mirrors the tax plan that President Donald Trump is trying to get through Congress. In fact, they were designed by the same supply-side economists.
> >
> > While the new Kansas law doesn’t roll back all the elements of the tax plan, it eliminates most of them, including the most controversial one: the zero tax rate for owner-operated businesses. The change was intended to spur business investment and expansion, but instead, it created massive tax avoidance, according to researchers.
> >
> > The fate of Kansas’s tax experiment provides many clues about what could happen if Congress goes along with Trump’s vision for tax reform.
> >
> > jason
>
> BWAHAHAHAHAH! Vox? VOX? Seems to me you could
So, you're saying the story is a lie?
> On Wednesday, June 7, 2017 at 9:35:28 AM UTC-5, Jason Todd!!! wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 12:58:25 AM UTC-5, Jason Todd!!! wrote:
> > > Six months later, things are even worser:
> > >
> > > Gov. Sam Brownback cuts higher education as Kansas tax receipts fall $53 million short
> > >
> > > Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article63347152.html#storylink=cpy
> >
> > aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand after another 13 months of this bullshit, the Kansas legislature unloads a big pile of Fuck You Motherfucker on Brownback!
> >
> >
> > https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/6/7/15753510/kansas-brownback-tax-reform
> >
> >
> > epublican lawmakers in Kansas put an end to the state’s failed tax-reform experiment on Tuesday, overriding the governor’s veto after three attempts to pass a tax-hiking bill this year.
> >
> > The new law raises income and business taxes closer to pre-reform levels — a move Republicans had been resisting for years. But pressure had been mounting to do something. The drastic tax cuts enacted five years ago left the state in a fiscal mess, unable to balance its budget and properly fund its public schools.
> >
> > Gov. Sam Brownback’s signature tax reform closely mirrors the tax plan that President Donald Trump is trying to get through Congress. In fact, they were designed by the same supply-side economists.
> >
> > While the new Kansas law doesn’t roll back all the elements of the tax plan, it eliminates most of them, including the most controversial one: the zero tax rate for owner-operated businesses. The change was intended to spur business investment and expansion, but instead, it created massive tax avoidance, according to researchers.
> >
> > The fate of Kansas’s tax experiment provides many clues about what could happen if Congress goes along with Trump’s vision for tax reform.
> >
> > jason
>
> BWAHAHAHAHAH! Vox? VOX? Seems to me you could
Jason
Trijcomm
Jun 7, 2017, 1:32:23 PM6/7/17
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Aldrichtom
Jun 7, 2017, 2:43:43 PM6/7/17
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On 7-Jun-2017, wrote:
> I wouldn't trust ANYTHING that Vox wrote and your final quote from that
> propaganda piece shows exactly why. Anyone who has ANY kind of intellect
> for this kind of thing knows you should take your information from a
> reputable source before you present your case or else you look like a fool
> and a lightweight. The fact that you didn't shows that you apparently
> don't use anything close to reputable sources for even the most basic
> information. That makes you a fake news kook.
these little league blogs to play in the big league
Aldrichtom
Jun 7, 2017, 2:49:40 PM6/7/17
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me
Jun 7, 2017, 4:43:55 PM6/7/17
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Trijcomm
Jun 7, 2017, 4:54:20 PM6/7/17
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me
Jun 7, 2017, 4:58:08 PM6/7/17
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robert stickler
Jun 7, 2017, 9:31:43 PM6/7/17
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Cnn is fake news
me
Jun 7, 2017, 9:35:08 PM6/7/17
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On Wednesday, June 7, 2017 at 9:31:43 PM UTC-4, robert stickler wrote:
> Cnn is fake news
and you're a moron
> Cnn is fake news
and you're a moron
robert stickler
Jun 7, 2017, 9:49:05 PM6/7/17
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Cnn is fake news
Freezer
Jun 8, 2017, 8:51:59 AM6/8/17
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If I don't reply to this Trijcomm post, the terroists win.
> Heck, I believe it now more than ever after they have video of
> CNN staging a protest
http://www.snopes.com/cnn-muslim-protests-london/
> CNN staging a protest
Had you actually looked beyond clickbait headlines and out-of-
context "gotcha" videos, you'd know that it was the police who
moved those protesters to a staging area so they could show the
gathered media their protest signs. The BBC, the Telegraph and the
Standard were all there as well.
The protest was set up by a London Muslim org, the London Fatwa
Council. They were there before camera one showed up.
So shove that "fake protest" up your proudly ignorant ass.
Jason Todd!!!
Jun 9, 2017, 12:45:39 AM6/9/17
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On Thursday, June 8, 2017 at 8:51:59 AM UTC-4, Freezer wrote:
>
> So shove that "fake protest" up your proudly ignorant ass.
>
> --
> My name is Freezer and my anti-drug is porn.
> http://mst3kfreezer.livejournal.com/
> @allhailfreezer
Doubtful that he has room in there....
>
> So shove that "fake protest" up your proudly ignorant ass.
>
> --
> My name is Freezer and my anti-drug is porn.
> http://mst3kfreezer.livejournal.com/
> @allhailfreezer
Jason (ribbit!)
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