Why I hold the views on marriage that I do
Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan
net.bandwidth, as well as the stark raving mad rantings which I feel I
have to get off my chest, please hit 'n' now. In fact, I will even
provide a control-L for your convienence. For those who don't mind
being offended, or want a good laugh, or want something to think about,
please continue on.
Okay. First, let me say something. It is 73 degrees Fahrenheit right
now in Anchorage, Alaska. I lived 8 years of my life in Fairbanks,
Alaska. I am used to cold weather and dry air. Having said that, IT IS
TERRIBLY FUCKING HOT AND HUMID RIGHT NOW!!!!!! Okay, I got that off my
chest.
Right now, I just felt like posting something which may or may not be of
potential worth to the net. But let me give you the qualifications for
this post. I have been very tired all day now. This afternoon, I ran
into some friends who were sitting around finishing off a case of beer.
They invited me to join in, and I had three beers. Now, for the benefit
of Eric and Byron and anyone else who is curious as to my drinking
habits, please note the following. I AM NOT DRUNK!!!! Three beers was
enough to give me a moderate buzz for about an hour. But I did not get
drunk. Especially when you consider that it was piss-water Budweiser.
But, it did not cost me anything, so what the hell. However, I did say
I was tired. The aftermath of all of this is that I am even more tired
than before. And when I am tired, things run through my mind. At the
present, I am collecting various thoughts in the hopes that I can
remember them all by the time that it is time to type them into this
document. But like I said, things are running through my mind. So why
not post them, I said to myself? Why not. So, I picked a number of
groups that I felt would be appropriate, and even some that aren't.
What the hell. For those of you reading this in r.s.p-w, if you recall,
I stated a while back that extreme tiredness is a condition where I
start to have no problems about posting weird/offensive/inappropriate
stuff on the net. The other has to do with being under the influence of
a chemical substance, but I am not drunk (see above), so that doesn't
count. But for r.s.p-w'ers, it probably wouldn't hurt to take a good
look at the way I think, anyway. But enough of that, let's get to the
subject of this post.
At various points in time, there have been threads in ua.flame
concerning my attitude towards marriage. The people initiating these
threads have used stronger language to describe this attitude than I
ever would, but that's their prerogative. But basically, I wanted to
put it all into terms that would be understood by anyone on the net who
might care about any of this. Basically, I am 24 years old, and have
been in my share of interpersonal relationships, but have never held a
desire to engage in the ritual of marriage. I won't get into the
reasoning I have used to describe this attitude before, but I will
describe it in terms not used by me before, terms that may break the
situation down into terms of the utmost simplicity. Here is a scenario
that I envision, given the way that marriages go today, that could have
happened to me at anytime in my life had I chosen to adopt a "normal"
mode of thinking towards life:
(This may really offend you, so I am providing 2 control-Ls in case you
really want to bail out at this point)
I meet a girl at Chilkoot's. I take her home. I end up fucking her
every night for a month straight. Somewhere along the line, she asks me
to marry her. I agree. Before too long, the wedding is held. Later
that night, I fuck her again, this time not using a condom. She gets
pregnant. Life goes on, but as time goes by, the relationship badly
deteriorates. Later on, the baby is born. Things get worse and worse
in the following months. Before too long, she asks for a divorce. The
divorce is granted soon after. And I end up working some ridiculous job
that I have absolutely no desire working simply because I have to pay
her to raise my kid.
Now obviously, that isn't the only such scenario. But that is the one
that was running through my mind at various points in time this
afternoon, and increased in intensity as the day wore on. I could think
of a couple other scenarios, actually, but after a while they would all
end up looking and sounding the same. So, let's switch to real life for
a second:
1) When I was 17, my girlfriend (who was 19) asked me to marry her. I
didn't feel ready for marriage at that point, so I said no. I suspect
that my response is what led to us breaking up soon after, but that's
beside the point. If I had said yes, it would have been more than
likely that a kid would have been soon to follow. And I can just see it
now. Here I am, with a 6 year old in tow. I am told by the state
Division of Family & Youth Services, the Anchorage Police Department and
the Anchorage School District variations of a story that translates into
real-life terms the following: "We own this kid, we're just allowing you
to bear the expense of raising him. But you will raise him according to
the guidelines we have set forth." You get the picture. I have a 3
year old half-brother who already has a Socialist Security Number. My,
what a fascist world we have graduated to.
2) My dad is currently on his 4th marriage. Believe me, this is
certainly one of the things that has turned me off to marriage, that
being the inevitability of divorce. If I do get married, the thought of
eventually ending up getting older and searching for a second wife is
holding me back from any thoughts of wanting to search for a first wife
at the present time.
Anyhow, if all of this is a hell of a lot more than you ever anticipated
wanting or needing to see, then flame me. If you found it of value in
your life, send large cash contributions to the snail address you see in
my .sig and I might write more. Alcohol-related flames to alt.beer or
sci.homebrew, whichever one your admin doesn't throw into junk on your
site.
***************************************************************
Sean Patrick Ryan Bitnet: FSSPR@ALASKA
Internet: fs...@acad3.alaska.edu On IRC: RadioKAOS
Snail: P.O. Box 240554, Anchorage, AK 99524-0554
"Hey man, we're just sitting around drinking a few beers. If we
had intended to get drunk, we would have bought a hell of a lot
more than just a case." - Allen "Bobo" Raymond
thatcher alexander ezekiel
> I AM NOT DRUNK!!!!
>
Personally, it would sound as if you were a wee bit tipsy but that is not the
point of this response.
IMHO you had some very good arguments against marriage. Certainly, if that is
the way you feel about marriage then there is no way in hell that you should
marry.
Still, in the atmosphere of altromance we must all face one grueling reality.
When the flowers are wilted and the engagement is made, when our world of
bright childhood romantic fantasy comes to a careening switch to responsilblity
We must realize that the world we actually live in is a world of buisness,
a world of unglamorous situations that require work and tolerance.
And yet, I believe that when love is true and strong, love survives the humdrum.
Sean Patrick Ryan, when romance is found, marriage is not a procedure, but is
a ritual. When you marry someone, it is not merely a promise to live together
and to share the dishes, but a formal announcment of a commitment that was
already made long ago while looking to the eyes of that SO.
And until that soulful commitment is made, I can guarentee tragedy and divorce.
I, like you, am not married but am mearly an observer. Yet, I know that I
can, under the above conditons be persuaded by the strange gearings of nature
or by God to marry, but that it is not likely.
Successful marriages are rare, true freindship even rarer.
Alex
cate...@pirates.armstrong.edu
And a real quality paper cut followed almost instantly by the artful
compression of a tart citrus fruit as it's juice flows into said cut
and initiates the most exquisite pain is even harder to find.
Damn! Where's the salt! Without the salt the Tequila is voided and we
acquire a lack of these things. And don't give me that "..it is better
to have it and let go..." drivel, I want my salt!
Jim
Woody Muller
2.5 year-old tot in Slick City, Utah --- but I do get my little jabs in...
o I bought a Ric Flair tee-shirt for my L'il Nature Boy.
o On the occasions of my visitation, I quite often press-slam and suplex
the L'il Nature Boy onto the couch or bed, much to his enjoyment
and to the consternation of his mother! It invariably wears me out,
as he says "Do it again -- Bodyslam!" to me over and over and over!
o To this day, I cannot gaze upon El Gigante without uttering those
words, in a high squeaky voice: "Do it again -- Bodyslam!"
o The L'il Nature Boy's Mommy now answers his call for bodyslams while
I'm 2000 miles away here in NC, near as I can tell, but from what I
have seen of her technique, her tosses are somewhat random and of very
poor execution. I've cautioned her about this, and urged her to
be more systematic.
o I understand Slic Ric himself has a 2.5-year-old. I'll be watching
THE Champ tonight from the Front Row, Section D!
o Do it again! Bodyslam!
--
wm
Herb Kunze
> Herb, maybe we should include a category for the best (or should it
> be worst) waste of bandwidth in the year-end r.s.p-w awards.
>
> If we do create such a category, I suggest one of the following names:
>
> -The Mr. Fuji Award (for talking so much, yet saying so little)
>
> -The Ultimate Warrior Award (for talking in a manner that is
> next to impossible to understand)
>
> Any other ideas?
I've been putting some thought into the year-end awards.
I was thinking that each entry could create a silly award of their
own and that a summary posting of those would be good entertainment
value. This is similar to what PWI does in their year-end awards.
Also, I'm going to get the ball rolling a lot earlier this year,
posting the categoried from last year and calling for suggestions
for additions or (gack!) removals. I believe there were 31 award
categories last year, and nobody that responded (some 40 people)
complained about length.
I am thinking of changing the scoring (and voting) process from
last year's pick your winner style. This time around I think
I'll allow three entries and award a different number of points
for first, second and third choice. This should make things
more dynamic.
Herb...
Kenneth Jason Fair
}Okay. First, let me say something. It is 73 degrees Fahrenheit right
}now in Anchorage, Alaska. I lived 8 years of my life in Fairbanks,
}Alaska. I am used to cold weather and dry air. Having said that, IT IS
}TERRIBLY FUCKING HOT AND HUMID RIGHT NOW!!!!!! Okay, I got that off my
}chest.
}
}***************************************************************
}Sean Patrick Ryan Bitnet: FSSPR@ALASKA
}Internet: fs...@acad3.alaska.edu On IRC: RadioKAOS
}Snail: P.O. Box 240554, Anchorage, AK 99524-0554
}
}"Hey man, we're just sitting around drinking a few beers. If we
}had intended to get drunk, we would have bought a hell of a lot
}more than just a case." - Allen "Bobo" Raymond
Chuckle. Giggle giggle. Snort. Mmph! Chuckle chuckle.
Ha. Ha ha. HA HA HA!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
I only wish it were 73 here in Houston!! It doesn't even PRETEND
to get that low between the months of June and September here.
You think it's muggy there? Try 85%+ relative humidity combined
with 90-100 degree heat. Now you know why we spend so much on A/C!
With my .shades on, B-)
Ken
--
KEN FAIR - Rice Physics # ken...@owlnet.rice.edu # AOL: Mr Toaster
DISCLAIMER: I don't need one, so this is a non-disclaimer disclaimer.
"I am not a crook." - Richard Nixon "I don't remember." - Ronald Reagan
"I didn't live in this century." - Dan Quayle
Eric Olson
diatribe to a huge list of groups which included a local (University
of Alaska) group. Please STOP blindly following up and take the time
to EDIT OUT the Alaskan group as we do not want to see follow-ups from
around the world in our local group.
Thank you.
Eric Olson <e...@ims.alaska.edu>
"There is no doubt: numerous individuals on this campus have done
everything in their power to bring me to the situation I am in today.
That is, unwilling to line their pockets with my money anymore that I
feel like doing. You can claim conspiracy. I might even be willing
to on occasion." --Sean Ryan
Bruce Onder
[Damn, I tried to post this to ua.flame and couldn't...]
>Inadvertently or in a fit of pique (you decide), Sean crossposted this
>diatribe to a huge list of groups which included a local (University
>of Alaska) group.
Since he claimed right up front that he was doing it and didn't give a
damn (on just three beers, too -- sigh. I thought you boys could
*drink* up there :), I don't think 'inadvertantly' really applies, do
you?
>Please STOP blindly following up and take the time
>to EDIT OUT the Alaskan group as we do not want to see follow-ups from
>around the world in our local group.
I don't think Sean originally gave a damn if *anybody* in the whole wide world
didn't want to see his lunatic fringe posting.
Should we give a damn about ua.flame?
>Thank you.
Don't you yahoos have some kind of near-beer you can be drinking prior
to warming up the old terminal?
>Eric Olson <e...@ims.alaska.edu>
>"There is no doubt: numerous individuals on this campus have done
>everything in their power to bring me to the situation I am in today.
>That is, unwilling to line their pockets with my money anymore that I
>feel like doing. You can claim conspiracy. I might even be willing
>to on occasion." --Sean Ryan
<Uuuuurp.>
Bruce
--
Bruce W. Onder on...@isi.edu
(He's not your everyday-type prankster!)
I'm Ice-T: Original Gangster
(O.G.: Original Gangster)
LOOMIS ANDREW D
>In article <19JUN9...@acad3.alaska.edu> fs...@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
>
>}Okay. First, let me say something. It is 73 degrees Fahrenheit right
>}now in Anchorage, Alaska. I lived 8 years of my life in Fairbanks,
>}Alaska. I am used to cold weather and dry air. Having said that, IT IS
>}TERRIBLY FUCKING HOT AND HUMID RIGHT NOW!!!!!! Okay, I got that off my
>}chest.
>
>
>
> Ha. Ha ha. HA HA HA!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
>
> I only wish it were 73 here in Houston!! It doesn't even PRETEND
>to get that low between the months of June and September here.
> You think it's muggy there? Try 85%+ relative humidity combined
>with 90-100 degree heat. Now you know why we spend so much on A/C!
>
>With my .shades on, B-)
>Ken
>--
>KEN FAIR - Rice Physics # ken...@owlnet.rice.edu # AOL: Mr Toaster
>DISCLAIMER: I don't need one, so this is a non-disclaimer disclaimer.
> "I am not a crook." - Richard Nixon "I don't remember." - Ronald Reagan
> "I didn't live in this century." - Dan Quayle
And I wish it were 73 here in Fairbanks.....this 95+ stuff is too hot for me...
Has Sean never spent a summer in Fairbanks to know that Fairbanks is hotter
than Anchorplace?
Andrew Loomis
Bitnet: FSADL@ALASKA
Internet: FS...@ACAD3.ALASKA.EDU
Never have so many owed so much to so few. -Winston Churchill
He must have been thinking of our liquor bills. -An unidentified RAF pilot
Claire Sanford
> In article <19JUN9...@acad3.alaska.edu> fs...@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
>
> }Okay. First, let me say something. It is 73 degrees Fahrenheit right
> }now in Anchorage, Alaska. I lived 8 years of my life in Fairbanks,
> }Alaska. I am used to cold weather and dry air. Having said that, IT IS
> }TERRIBLY FUCKING HOT AND HUMID RIGHT NOW!!!!!! Okay, I got that off my
> }chest.
> }
> }***************************************************************
>
> Ha. Ha ha. HA HA HA!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
>
> I only wish it were 73 here in Houston!! It doesn't even PRETEND
> to get that low between the months of June and September here.
> You think it's muggy there? Try 85%+ relative humidity combined
> with 90-100 degree heat. Now you know why we spend so much on A/C!
>
> With my .shades on, B-)
> Ken
> --
> KEN FAIR - Rice Physics # ken...@owlnet.rice.edu # AOL: Mr Toaster
hey Ken!
last time I checked Dr Neil's weather forcast it was something like 99%
humidity!
I would love to be able to romp in 73 degree weather!
BUT I must ask again... why are we talking about weather in
alt.SEX!?!?!?!?
Claire
Yeah... I'm Toast.... Go to the Bombay Bicycle Club on a friday night and
get a peterrita and find out why!!!!!
--