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"A Christmas Carol", politically speaking

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C The Shocker

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Nov 17, 2005, 5:54:12 PM11/17/05
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Does/should a conservative Republican look at Scrooge as a man whose
attitudes should be emulated? Let's analyze:

1. Scrooge was a money man. He embodied the true spirit of Capitalism: take
no prisoners, it's them or you, and accumulate the most amount of wealth in
the most efficient way possible, but is well known as an honest businessman
with professional ethics.

2. Scrooge was thrifty. He knew the value of a Pound and avoided frivolous
spending. He saved his money, apparently in a bank, since, although his
actual profession was never revealed, as a banker or a money lender, he knew
the value of savings. That money was then redistributed through loans to the
population, encouraging civic growth.

3. He views the social aspect of Christmas to be one of materialism and
unchecked welfare. The concept of "something for nothing" is against his
every fibre. He apparently has nothing against the rememberance of the birth
of Jesus Christ, but believes that it's spiraled into a bastardization of
the true spirit of what Christ stood for.

4. Scrooge DOES give to charitable organizations: he donates funds to the
local workhouses, where the poor of Victorian-era England are expected to go
for housing and food, in exchange for work (although brutal, but the world
is a harsh place, and you should be expected to work for your survival). He
refuses to support nor give credence to organizations that simply provide
food and shelter to the poor, as they are setting a poor precedent to the
people that they are helping that, if you hold your hand out long enough,
someone will give you what you need.

5. Regardless of his upbringing, with a neglectful father and apparently no
mother, he still went on to forge himself to be a success in the business
world, proving that your background and environment in youth years should
not and cannot be used as an excuse for not excelling in whatever profession
you choose in adult life. Those that do are simply lying to themselves and
are a burden to society.

In conclusion, it's clear that today's conservative should look upon Scrooge
as a man with integrity and moral convictions, who believed in pulling
oneself (n IZ THIZ ON) up by the bootstraps to make it in this world, and to
look down upon anyone without the same drive and convictions.
--
C The Shocker
2005 King of RSPW
I'm Not Nice.


alic...@yahoo.com

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Nov 17, 2005, 7:56:46 PM11/17/05
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C The Shocker wrote:

> Does/should a conservative Republican look at Scrooge as a man whose
> attitudes should be emulated? Let's analyze:

<snip>

Who would be the Democrat in this story?

I vote for the Ghost Of Christmas Yet To Come: "Give
me all your money or I will kill you."

-Tom Enright

Jay Furr

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Nov 17, 2005, 8:01:41 PM11/17/05
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alic...@yahoo.com wrote in news:1132275406.640603.44900
@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> C The Shocker wrote:
>
>> Does/should a conservative Republican look at Scrooge as a man whose
>> attitudes should be emulated? Let's analyze:
>
> <snip>
>
> Who would be the Democrat in this story?
>
> I vote for the Ghost Of Christmas Yet To Come: "Give
> me all your money or I will kill you."
>
> -Tom Enright

Tom, go have a beer or something, okay?

--
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-- Tom Lehrer
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alic...@yahoo.com

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Nov 17, 2005, 8:03:46 PM11/17/05
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Jay Furr wrote:

> alic...@yahoo.com wrote in news:1132275406.640603.44900
> @g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> > C The Shocker wrote:
> >
> >> Does/should a conservative Republican look at Scrooge as a man whose
> >> attitudes should be emulated? Let's analyze:

> > <snip>
> >
> > Who would be the Democrat in this story?
> >
> > I vote for the Ghost Of Christmas Yet To Come: "Give
> > me all your money or I will kill you."
> >
> > -Tom Enright

> Tom, go have a beer or something, okay?

I already did. But there is some Nyquil in the medicne
cabinet.

-Tom Enright

Jay Furr

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Nov 17, 2005, 8:09:32 PM11/17/05
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alic...@yahoo.com wrote in news:1132275826.503858.21190
@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:

>> Tom, go have a beer or something, okay?
>
> I already did. But there is some Nyquil in the medicne
> cabinet.

Got any peach schapps? Nyquil and schnapps goes down a treat.

McMahone

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Nov 17, 2005, 8:42:39 PM11/17/05
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Interesting chum, but I'd suggest you go read Adam Smith if you really
think #1 is anywhere near accurate.

det282

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Nov 18, 2005, 3:35:54 PM11/18/05
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What's this got to do with The Civil War?

Greg Reeves

"There's nothing wrong with shooting,
just as long as the right people get shot."
-- Inspector Harry Callahan San Francisco PD

Noodles Jefferson

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Nov 18, 2005, 8:29:39 PM11/18/05
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In article <437d0a15$0$41138$1472...@news.sunsite.dk>, C The Shocker
took the hamburger, threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh wow"...

But Scrooge turned away from those "ideals", when the spirits showed him
how empty his life really was.

--
Noodles Jefferson
mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30
sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM

"Our earth is degenerate in these latter days, bribery and corruption
are common, children no longer obey their parents and the end of the
world is evidently approaching."
--Assyrian clay tablet 2800 B.C.

James Schrumpf

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Nov 18, 2005, 8:53:43 PM11/18/05
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Quiet, Noodles Jefferson <silve...@tacoshells.com> -- I'm
transmitting rage.

Well, actually he turned away from those "ideals" when his own life was
threatened (by the Ghost of Christmas Future).

I suppose that makes him the personification of modernity after all.

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We Must Protect this Couch!

Noodles Jefferson

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Nov 19, 2005, 1:44:25 AM11/19/05
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In article <Xns9712D4960AC3Dja...@216.196.97.142>, James
Schrumpf took the hamburger, threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh
wow"...

The spirit wasn't threatening him. He was showing him a grave with no
one around to remember him and people cheering for his death. Also, the
spirit showed that through his inaction, due to his stinginess, how tiny
tim died. In short, the spirit showed him he was a dick and everyone
pretty much hated him.

>
> I suppose that makes him the personification of modernity after all.
>
>

--

James Schrumpf

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Nov 19, 2005, 2:15:14 AM11/19/05
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Same thing as a threat. Do you suppose that Scrooge was laboring under
the impression that everyone loved him and thought he was a great guy?

Noodles Jefferson

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Nov 20, 2005, 5:03:32 PM11/20/05
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In article <Xns971316F50A4Aja...@216.196.97.142>, James

Showing someone that they're a dick != threatening.

> Do you suppose that Scrooge was laboring under
> the impression that everyone loved him and thought he was a great guy?

Somewhat, yes.

Edward M. Kennedy

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Nov 21, 2005, 12:03:23 PM11/21/05
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"det282" <det...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:1132346154....@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

Why do you hate Tiny Tim? What did cripples ever do
to you?

--Tedward


Sean Walsh

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Nov 21, 2005, 12:06:10 PM11/21/05
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Well, for starters......this thread is politically incorrect.

Everyone knows it's "A Holiday Carol." :-/

--
Sean

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