Deer GOP: suck it
Guy Namechanger
Dems snare 60 votes to move ahead on health care
By ERICA WERNER, Associated Press Writer
2 mins ago
WASHINGTON - Democratic leaders secured the last two votes to move ahead on
historic health care legislation, clearing the way for a Saturday night
showdown on President Barack Obama's top domestic initiative.
In long-awaited speeches, centrist Sens. Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas and
Mary Landrieu of Louisiana said they would stand with their party and vote
"yes" on the crucial test vote despite deep reservations with elements of
the 2,074-page bill to remake the nation's health care system.
"The truth is this issue is very complex. There is no easy fix and it's
imperative that we build on what's already working in health care in
America," Lincoln told her Senate colleagues.
Hours earlier, Landrieu had delivered her news. The two represent votes 59
and 60 for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., who needs that many in
the 100-member Senate to go forward. The Senate's 40 Republicans are
unanimously opposed.
"I've decided that there are enough significant reforms and safeguards in
this bill to move forward, but much more work needs to be done," Landrieu
said, with the 8 p.m. EST vote looming.
Most everyone would be required to purchase insurance under Reid's
legislation, and billions in new taxes would be levied on insurers and
high-income Americans to help extend coverage to 30 million uninsured.
Insurance companies would no longer be allowed to deny coverage to people
with medical conditions or drop coverage when someone gets sick.
A largely overlooked EXCEPT THAT IT'S BEEN THE TOP STORY ALL DAY provision
in the Senate bill would send $100 million to Louisiana to help it cover
costs for Medicaid, the federal-state health care program for the poor. In
her speech, Landrieu rejected the notion that she was voting to advance the
bill simply because of the money.
"I am not going to be defensive about asking for help in this situation,"
she said, recalling the devastation inflicted on her state by Hurricane
Katrina in 2005 and her Republican governor's support for the provision.
"I'm proud to have asked for it. I'm proud to have fought for it. And I will
continue to."
During earlier debate on the bill, Democrats called a revamp of the nation's
health care system long overdue.
"The country suffers when there is a failure to act on serious challenges
that millions of ordinary Americans face in their daily lives," Sen. Patrick
Leahy, D-Vt., said during the rare weekend session.
United in opposition, Republicans cast the bill as a costly government
takeover, built on budget gimmicks.
"Move over, Bernie Madoff. Tip your hat to a trillion-dollar scam," said
Sen. Kit Bond, R-Mo., referring to the mastermind of a multibillion-dollar
Ponzi scheme.
The action in the Senate comes two weeks after the House approved a health
overhaul bill of its own on a 220-215 vote. After the vote Saturday night,
senators will leave for a Thanksgiving recess. Upon their return, assuming
Democrats prevail on the vote, they will launch into weeks or more of
unpredictable debate on the health care bill, with numerous amendments
expected from both sides of the aisle and more 60-vote hurdles along the
way.
Senate leaders hope to pass their bill by the end of the year. If that
happens, January would bring work to reconcile the House and Senate versions
before a final package could land on Obama's desk.
The bills have many similarities, including the new requirements on insurers
and the creation of new purchasing marketplaces called exchanges where
self-employed individuals and small businesses could go to shop for and
compare coverage plans. One option in the exchanges would be a new
government-offered plan, something that's opposed by private insurers and
business groups.
Differences include requirements for employers. The House bill would require
medium and large businesses to cover their employees, while the Senate bill
would not require them to offer coverage but would make them pay a fee if
the government ends up subsidizing employees' coverage.
Another difference is in how they're paid for. The Senate bill includes a
tax on high-value insurance policies that's not part of the House bill,
while the House would levy a new income tax on upper-income Americans that's
not in the Senate measure. The Senate measure also raises the Medicare
payroll tax on income above $200,000 annually for individuals and $250,000
for couples. Both bills rely on more than $400 billion in cuts to Medicare.
trijcomm
Good news for the Repubs. It's the Demwits' own it now and they will
pay the price for it and unemployment at the polls -- big time. Say
good-bye to that majority!
Syvyn11
"trijcomm" <trij...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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and say goodbye to freedom, small government, wealth, liberty, big brother
staying out of our business and other stuff.
THANKS YOU FUCKING TRAITOR DEMOCRATS!!!! I HOPE YOU ALL BURN IN HELL!
And BTW Trij, the libs will weasel out of it by blaming republicans, they
are doing it now.
Guy Namechanger
"Syvyn11" <robhor...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Mhoram
I *do* blame the Republicans: for being such inept bible-thumpers and so
obnoxious that they *gave* complete and total control over to the Democrats.
The Republicans had their chance and blew it, now the Democrats will screw
things up and two cycles from now we'll rinse-and-repeat.
CrossfaceWalls
> "trijcomm" <trijc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> THANKS YOU FUCKING TRAITOR DEMOCRATS!!!! I HOPE YOU ALL BURN IN HELL!
Fixed.
Syvyn11
"Guy Namechanger" <peterdunc...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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United states of America. I'm not a birthed.
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Lord Gow 333, not a White House approved poster!
"CrossfaceWalls" <Crossfa...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Fixed.
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So you're pointing out that we already have a system in place for providing
health care to those who can't afford it, and therefore we don't need this
rediculous bullshit power grab legislation?
This may very well be the first time we've agreed on anything...
LG
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If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert in five
years there would be a shortage of sand. - Milton Friedman
trijcomm
> "Syvyn11" <robhorine...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> news:yIidnZcDX4R1xZXW...@earthlink.com...
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> > "trijcomm" <trijc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Nothing wrong with Bible thumpers. This nation is in a world of hurt
because we don't have enough of them.
trijcomm
> "trijcomm" <trijc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Nope, they are on record. It's their bill, and they will go down with
it BIG TIME!
Mhoram
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Wonder if you feel the same way about Koran thumpers...
they love Jesus too.
rwa2play, The Northern Lariat
Now...let's see how long that rattles in Janis' brain before kooks about
it...
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RIP Misawa-san.
I used to have a handle on life, then it broke.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright
until you hear them speak.
CrossfaceWalls
<lord...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "CrossfaceWalls" <Crossfacewa...@aol.com> wrote in message
Another fail for Fart Cow while backing up his buddy Syvnn "I've got
mine free, everyone else should pay double" 11.
CrossfaceWalls
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Yeah, I for one think we need more guys who pay prostitutes to powder
and diaper them, like Diaper Dave Vitter.
Lord Gow 333, not a White House approved poster!
On Nov 21, 9:10 pm, "Lord Gow 333, not a White House approved poster!"
<lord...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "CrossfaceWalls" <Crossfacewa...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> news:efc028d2-7c12-48bf...@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 21, 4:16 pm, "Syvyn11" <robhorine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
(LOP!)
> > and say goodbye to me getting all the free handouts while shitting all
> > over others who can actually work for their health care.
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> > THANKS YOU FUCKING TRAITOR DEMOCRATS!!!! I HOPE YOU ALL BURN IN HELL!
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> Fixed.
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> So you're pointing out that we already have a system in place for
> providing
> health care to those who can't afford it, and therefore we don't need this
> rediculous bullshit power grab legislation?
>
> This may very well be the first time we've agreed on anything...
>
> LG
Another fail for Fart Cow while backing up his buddy Syvnn "I've got
mine free, everyone else should pay double" 11.
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So you're saying you're full of shit and can't refute my argument so you
have to resort to petty name-calling?
I accept your surrender.
LG (magnanimous)
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The shining beacon of truth in a newsgroup full of liberals. - rafiki
CrossfaceWalls
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Your point sucked, as I'd have to ignore the fact you've basically
posted several times that good hard-working Americans families who
bust their ass but can't pay the medical insurance thieves' guild
premiums should get a better job or fuck off and die for it to make
any sense. Meanwhile, Captain Clubfoot gets a pass from you.
Lord Gow 333, not a White House approved poster!
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So you're saying you have the reading comprehension of the average kumquat?
That does explain a lot...
LG
Jason Todd
Yawn.
CW, IMHO, he's reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally not worth the
effort anymore.
Jason "Not that he ever was to begin with..." Todd
Morpheus
"Jason Todd" <janklo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Yawn.
Gow may as well be part of the 'robby' cabal for as much interest as his
posts currently generate.
Lord Gow 333, not a White House approved poster!
"Morpheus" <t...@red.pill> wrote in message news:hemga9$vvu$1...@aioe.org...
And yet here you guys are, so disinterested that you just HAAAAAAVE to
comment on it.
I feel like Sarah Palin!
LG (legend)
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